List of updates (SSB4)/1.0.8 changelog

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This is the list of known changes in version 1.0.8 of Super Smash Bros. 4. All claims on this page must be verifiable, preferably with a trustable source link, and must compare both the old and new states. Ensure that all changes are also listed on the respective pages.

Universal

• Grounded to air ledge transition mechanics altered.

Bowser

• Occurence of an unknown action in up tilt: frame 11 → frame 10
• Up tilt hitbox 2 removed.
• Up tilt damage: 10% → 9%
• Up tilt startup: 12 frames → 11 frames
• Up tilt hitbox X-offset: 7.4 → 6.9
• Up tilt endlag: 51 frames → 41 frames

Captain Falcon

• Forward smash knockback growth: 94/84 (down) → 95/85
• Up air damage: 13%/12%/10% → 11%/10%/9%
• Up air knockback growth: 10/8 → 16/10

Charizard

• Jab 1 weight-based knockback: 15/10 → 26/22
• Transition from first to second jab and second to third is one frame earlier.
• Jab 3 knockback growth: 110 → 130
• Forward air hitbox 0 size: 4.3 (early)/4.5 (late) → 4.6/4.8
• Forward air (early hitbox 0) X-offset: 7 → 7.5
• Forward air (late hitbox 0) Z-offset: 7 → 7.5
• Forward air (early hitbox 0) knockback growth: 98 → 97
• Forward air duration: 4 frames → 5 frames
• Up throw angle: 60° → 70°
• Up throw knockback growth: 160 → 220
• Down throw angle: Sakurai angle → 70°
• Down throw knockback: 300 → 130
• Down throw base knockback: 40 → 70

Diddy Kong

• Jab 1 damage: 1.5% → 1.2%
• Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 10 → frame 8
• Jab 2 damage: 1.5% → 1.2%
• Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 9 → frame 8
• Jab 3 weight-based knockback: 30 → 25
• Jab 3 hitbox sizes: 4/3.5/3 → 4.2/3.7/3.2
• Transition between third hit and looping hits of jab: frame 22 → frame 15
• Looping hits of jab now use a large, single hitbox as opposed to many small ones.
• Looping hits of jab damage: 0.6% → 0.5%
• Looping hits of jab angle: 70/90 → 60
• Looping hits of jab weight-based knockback: 6 → 4
• SDI of jab rapid hits: 1.3 → 0.7
• Unknown parameters of rapid jab hits changed from default to 6.8 and 6.
• Final hit of jab animation length: frame 8 → frame 4
• Final hit of jab knockback scaling: 180 → 177
• Final hit of jab base knockback: 30 → 45
• Final hit of jab hitbox size: 5 → 7.2
• Final hit of jab Y-offset: 5.5 → 6.8
• Unknown parameters of final hits of jab changed from 5.5 to 6.8 and 6.
• Down tilt given an additional hitbox.
• Down tilt damage: 6% → 5.5%
• Up air startup: 3 frames → 4 frames
• Up air autocancel: 15 frames → 27 frames
• Up air base knockback: 65 → 64
• Up air knockback growth: 99 → 89
• Up throw (hit 1) damage: 4% → 1%
• Up throw (hit 1) base knockback: 30 → 50
• Up throw (hit 1) knockback scaling: 100 → 120
• Down throw damage: 6% → 7%
• Down throw angle: 105° → 106°
• Down throw knockback scaling: 50 → 59

Donkey Kong

• Cargo forward throw damage: 8% → 10%
• Cargo back throw damage: 8% → 12%
• Cargo back throw angle: 55° → 72°
• Cargo back throw base knockback: 80 → 70
• Cargo up throw damage: 7% → 10%
• Cargo down throw damage: 6% → 7%
• Cargo down throw angle: 45° → 48°
• Cargo back throw base knockback: 65 → 50
• Cargo back throw knockback scaling: 38 → 80
• Occurence of an unknown action in cargo back throw: frame 18 → frame 17
• DK now hops while performing cargo down toss.

Falco

• Jab 1 hitboxes 0 and 2 switched.
• Jab 1 base knockback: 30 → 35
• Jab 1 angle (hitboxes 0-1): 80° → 68°/77°
• Jab 1 size (hitboxes 0-1): 2/3 → 2.5/3.2
• Jab 1 Z-offset (hitbox 0): 0 → -0.5
• Jab 2 hitbox 2 angle: 50° → 45°
• Jab 2 hitbox 2 size: 2 → 5
• Jab 2 Z-offset (hitbox 2): 0 → -0.5
• Transition from Jab 2 to Jab 3: frame 10 → frame 9
• Rapid jab loop hitbox sizes: 2/3 → 2.7/3.2
• Up smash final hit longetivity: frames 13-20 → frames 12-21
• Neutral air weight-based knockback increased.
• Neutral air range increased.
• Neutral air (hit 2) damage: 3% → 2%
• Neutral air hits now auto link.
• Neutral air's final hit now forces front-facing knockback.
• Forward air hits: 3 → 5
• Forward air landing damage: 5% → 3%
• Forward air base knockback: 30 → 50
• Forward air has less lag overall.
• Up air damage: 11% → 10%
• Up air angle: 68°/68°/80° → 65°/75°/85°
• Up air hitboxes now all do the same knockback.
• Up air hitbox 0 size: 4.8 → 5
• Up air startup: 10 frames → 7 frames
• Down air sweetspot no longer meteor smashes grounded opponents, but sends them upwards.
• Down air sweetspot timing starts one frame earlier.
• Down air sourspot hitbox size: 5 → 5.3

Greninja

• Forward tilt damage: 6.5% → 7.3%
• Forward tilt base knockback: 15 → 20/30/40
• Forward tilt knockback growth: 112 → 110/90/70
• Z-offset of forward tilt adjusted.
• Forward tilt hitbox 2 bone: 3 → 5
• Forward tilt endlag: 38 frames → 31 frames

Ike

• Jab transition into second hit: frame 13 → frame 10
• New hitbox replaces hitbox 1 of jab's second hit, which replaces hitbox 2.
  • The new hitbox 1 hits at an angle of 80°, has a knockback scaling of 80 and weight-based knockback of 25, and has a size of 3.5.
• Jab 2 (hitbox 0) Y-offset: 8 → 7.5
• Jab 3 startup: 7 frames → 6 frames
• Jab 3 now properly hits above Ike.
• Jab 3 hitbox presence: 3 frames → 4 frames
• Forward tilt start-up: 15 frames → 12 frames
• Forward tilt's hitboxes combined.
• Forward tilt moved from bone 1000 to bone 1.
• Forward tilt now does 12.5% damage.
• Up tilt Y-offset: 12/10.5 → 13/12
• Up tilt hitbox removal: frame 19 → frame 22
• Dash attack has less start-up (18 frames → 15 frames) and deals more damage (Sweet spot: 10% → 14%. Sour spot: 7% → 11% and 5% → 9%)
• Dash attack angle (all but sourspot): 55° → 52°
• Dash attack knockback growth (all but sourspot): 70 → 78
• Dash attack sweetspot size: 6 → 6.3
• Dash attack sweetspot hitlag: 1 → 1.2
• Neutral air landing lag: 16 frames → 13 frames
• Forward air startup: 16 frames → 14 frames
• Forward air has better hitbox placements (Hits better above and below him).
• Forward air landing lag reduced: 19 frames → 18 frames
• Up air landing lag reduced: 18 frames → 15 frames
• Down air landing lag reduced: 26 frames → 23 frames
• Quick Draw startup reduced: 19 frames → 16 frames

Link

• Down tilt damage: 12% → 11%
• X-offsets of down tilt: 12.8/15.4 → 14.1/16.6
• Down tilt startup: 13 frames → 11 frames
• Down tilt endlag: 31 frames → 28 frames
• Up smash now links better.
• Grab range increased.
• Standing grab endlag: 66 frames → 61 frames
• Dash grab endlag: 77 frames → 65 frames
• Pivot grab endlag: 79 frames → 66 frames
• Forward throw angle: 55° → 50°
• Down throw (hit 2) damage: 4% → 3%
• Down throw angle: 110° → 83°
• Down throw knockback growth: 90 → 85
• Spin Attack knockback growth (stages 1-3): 84/80/80 → 85/85/82
• Shocking Spin Attack stage 2 knockback growth: 80 → 82

Lucario

• Jab 1 hitbox 0 angle: 60°/90° (late) → 80°
• Jab 1 base knockback: 45/50 (late) → 33/32
• Jab 1 knockback growth: 30 → 10
• Jab 2 hitbox 0 angle: 72° → 60°
• Jab 2 (hitbox 0/1) base knockback: 50 → 32/38
• Jab 2 knockback growth: 30 → 20

Lucina

• Jab 1 damage: 4.75% → 3.325%
• Jab 1 angle: Sakurai angle → 78°/65°/90°
• Jab 1 knockback growth: 50 → 30
• Jab 1 base knockback: 20 → 55
• Jab 1 hitlag: 1 → 0.7
• Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 20 → frame 17
• Jab 2 angle: Sakurai angle → 45
• Jab 2 knockback growth: 60 → 75
• Jab 2 base knockback: 25 → 62
• Jab 2 hitlag: 1 → 0.7
• Jab 2 unknown parameter: 0 → 1
• Jab endlag and time until earliest transitions are two frames shorter.
• Forward tilt damage: 9.975 → 10.925
• Up tilt angle: Sakurai angle/100° → 100°
• Up tilt base knockback: 50/40 → 65/52
• Up tilt endlag: 42 frames → 39 frames
• Up tilt body hitbox angle more vertical.
• Neutral air landing lag: 15 frames → 12 frames
• Dolphin Slash knockback scaling: 68 → 74
• Dolphin Slash/Crescent Slash hitlag: 0.5 → 0.7
• A quote now plays when Counter is activated.

Marth

• Jab 1 damage: 4%/6% → 3%/5%
• Jab 1 angle: Sakurai angle → 78°/65°/90°
• Jab 1 knockback growth: 50/70 → 30
• Jab 1 base knockback: 20/30 → 55
• Jab 1 hitlag: 1 → 0.7
• Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 20 → frame 17
• Jab 2 angle: Sakurai angle → 100
• Jab 2 initial base knockback: 50 → 65
• Jab 2 (late) base knockback: 40 → 52
• Jab endlag and time until earliest transitions are two frames shorter.
• Up tilt knockback increased.
• Up tilt endlag: 42 frames → 39 frames
• Marth moves forward if actions are taken during IASA frames.
• Up tilt body hitbox angle more vertical.
• Neutral air landing lag: 15 frames → 12 frames
• Dolphin Slash knockback scaling: 68 → 74
• Dolphin Slash/Crescent Slash hitlag: 0.5 → 0.7

Mii Brawler

• Onslaught windbox 1: angle → 50°
• Onslaught windbox 1 knockback growth: 100 → 0
• Onslaught windbox 1 weight-based knockback: 80 → 0
• Onslaught windbox 1 element: Hit → Push

Mii Swordfighter

• Jab 1 startup: 7 frames → 5 frames
• Jab 1 hitbox 2 split in two.
• Jab 1 angle: 85/361/361 → 85/50/45/45
• Jab 1 base knockback: 16 → 32
• Jab 1 knockback growth: 37 → 20
• Transition between jabs 1 and 2: frame 10 → frame 9
• Jab 2 hitboxes 0 and 1 switched.
• Jab 2 hitbox 1 angle: 100° → 96°
• Jab 2 hitbox 2 split in two.
• Transition between jabs 2 and 3: frame 10 → frame 9
• Jab 3 hitboxes 0 and 1 switched.
• Jab 3 hitbox 2 split in two.
• Dash attack hitbox size: 3/2.2 → 4/3
• Forward tilt hitbox 1 split in two.
• Neutral air startup: frame 12 → frame 10
• Forward air hitbox 2 size: 2.4/3.2 (late) → 3.5
• Back air damage: 12% → 14%
• Down air landing X-offset: 9 → 10.5
• Slash Launcher windbox 0 X-offset: 5 → 6
• Airborne Assault hits lower.

Meta Knight

• Jab rapid hits' hitbox split to cover more area.
• Jab rapid hits damage: 1% → 1.2%
• Jab rapid hits knockback scaling: 40 → 30
• Jab rapid hits SDI: 1 → 0.6
• Jab final hit size: 5.7 → 8
• Jab final hit's hitboxes moved slightly.
• Jab endlag reduced by approximately twelve frames.
• Forward tilt final hit angle: 65° → Sakurai angle
• Forward tilt final hit knockback growth: 110 → 107
• Forward tilt final hit damage: 3% → 4%
• Forward tilt endlag reduced by approximately ten frames.
• Neutral air landing lag reduced.

Mewtwo

• Confusion throw distance reduced.

Mr. Game & Watch

• Down tilt base knockback (sweetspot): 10 → 40
• Down tilt knockback scaling (sweetspot): 120 → 125
• Down tilt base knockback (sourspot): 60 → 70
• Down tilt knockback scaling (sourspot): 100 → 120
• Down tilt sourspot size: 9 → 10.5
• Unknown parameter of down tilt sourspot: 11 → 9

Ness

• PSI Magnet endlag reduced.

Olimar

• Pikmin Order no longer reverses from ledge grabs.

Palutena

• Up tilt hitboxes moved from bone 1000 to bone 0.
• Up tilt loop hits link better into themselves.
• Up tilt (loop hits) damage: 1% → 1.2%

Peach

• Jab hit 1 range: 2.4 → 3
• Jab hit 2 range: 2.4 → 4

Robin

• Automatic pushback from jab's rapid hit can now cause Robin to hang on the ledge.

Rosalina & Luma

• Luma HP: 47 → 50
• Rapid jab end knockback scaling: 170 → 150

Samus

• Up smash hitbox sizes increased by 0.5.
• Certain hitboxes in Up Smash split.
• Up smash (final hit) knockback growth: 135 → 150
• Up smash final hitbox sizes: 7/3.5 → 7.3/4

Sonic

• Up Smash (final hit) knockback growth: 177 → 165
• Down air endlag reduced.

Toon Link

• Jab 2 knockback growth: 37 → 34
• Jab 2 base knockback: 16 → 25
• Jab 3 hitbox sizes: 3.5 → 4.2
• Jab 3 hitbox 0 Z-offset: 5 → 4.5

Villager

• Forward throw base knockback: 100 → 102
• Back throw base knockback: 15 → 18
• Down throw damage: 4.5% → 6%
• Down throw knockback growth: 105 → 80
• Consecutive uses of Balloon Trip now result in less distance.

Wario

• Unknown parameters set to 63 and 15 on many hitboxes.
• Jab 1 (hitbox 0) angle: 65° → 55°
• Jab 1 (hitbox 0) base knockback: 35 → 45
• Jab 1 (hitbox 1) angle: 75° → 72°
• Jab 1 (hitbox 1) knockback scaling: 50 → 40
• Jab 1 (hitbox 1) base knockback: 28 → 38
• Jab 2 hitbox sizes: 5.5/3.5 → 5.8/3.8/3.3

Zelda

• Up Smash (final hit)knockback scaling: 190 → 214
• Up Smash (multihits) size: 3 → 3.5
• SDI of Up Smash multihits set to 0.5.
• Up Smash weight-based knockback (multihits): 60 → 40
• Sweetspot and sourspot on neutral air switched.
• Neutral air landing lag: 22 frames → 19 frames.
• Up air landing lag: 22 frames → 19 frames
• Down air landing lag: 21 frames → 18 frames

References

• SmashBoards thread
• YouTube video analyzing Ike's buffs from 1.0.7 to 1.0.8