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*The {{SSBB|Ice Climbers}} can perform infinite grab-release-chaingrabs on every character (except for another pair of climbers). This is performed by forcing a ground or pummel release and grabbing the victim with the other climber during their lag animation. It is not very practical, however, due to their other infinite chaingrabs, which deal damage much faster. | *The {{SSBB|Ice Climbers}} can perform infinite grab-release-chaingrabs on every character (except for another pair of climbers). This is performed by forcing a ground or pummel release and grabbing the victim with the other climber during their lag animation. It is not very practical, however, due to their other infinite chaingrabs, which deal damage much faster. | ||
*Yoshi can perform a grab-release-chaingrab on half the cast by getting an air release and performing a dash grab. He also has a guaranteed up smash on some characters, and a forward aerial [[meteor smash]] on some characters as well. | *Yoshi can perform a grab-release-chaingrab on half the cast by getting an air release and performing a dash grab. He also has a guaranteed up smash on some characters, and a forward aerial [[meteor smash]] on some characters as well (such as {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}). | ||
*Since Wario's air release sends him vertically in front of the opponent, he can be hit by any aerial attack with startup of 20 frames less, and even a ground attack with significant reach (such as {{SSBB|King Dedede}}'s up tilt). | *Since Wario's air release sends him vertically in front of the opponent, he can be hit by any aerial attack with startup of 20 frames less, and even a ground attack with significant reach (such as {{SSBB|King Dedede}}'s up tilt). | ||
*Ness and Lucas can be hit with any attack with 10 or less frames of startup if they are ground released or pummel released, and can be grab-release-chaingrabbed by many characters. They can also be zero-death chaingrabbed by {{SSBB|Marth}} and infinited by Donkey Kong's cargo throw. | *Ness and Lucas can be hit with any attack with 10 or less frames of startup if they are ground released or pummel released, and can be grab-release-chaingrabbed by many characters. They can also be zero-death chaingrabbed by {{SSBB|Marth}} and infinited by Donkey Kong's cargo throw. | ||
*Characters with unusually low-traveling arcs when air released, such as Fox, Falco, and Sheik, are left in more vulnerable edgeguarding positions when air released offstage. | *Characters with unusually low-traveling arcs when air released, such as Fox, Falco, and Sheik, are left in more vulnerable edgeguarding positions when air released offstage. | ||
*{{SSBB|Squirtle}} can be grab-release-comboed, and chaingrabbed using a dash grab by several characters, and infinitely air released by {{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}} due to its unusual air release. | *{{SSBB|Squirtle}} can be grab-release-comboed, and chaingrabbed using a dash grab by several characters, and infinitely air released by {{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}} due to its unusual air release. | ||
*{{SSBB|Meta Knight}} can be grab-release-comboed and chaingrabbed by many characters due to his poor air release. | *{{SSBB|Meta Knight}} can be grab-release-comboed and chaingrabbed by many characters due to his poor air release, most notably {{SSBB|Marth}}. | ||
==Grab releases in the original ''[[Super Smash Bros]]''.== | ==Grab releases in the original ''[[Super Smash Bros]]''.== | ||
Grab releases do not exist in ''Smash 64''; a grab always lasts the same amount of time, and once that time is up, the character will automatically use a forward throw. Grabs cannot be mashed out of in this game, and the only way to escape grabs is if the victim is hit hard enough by a bystander's attack, in which case they will take the knockback of that attack. {{SSB|Donkey Kong}}'s cargo release available in his forward throw may be considered a pseudo-grab release, due to DK losing hold of the opponent so they are vulnerable in front of him for a few moments (allowing techniques such as the [[infinite throw trap]]), but it is more of a way the throw works rather than an actual grab release. | Grab releases do not exist in ''Smash 64''; a grab always lasts the same amount of time, and once that time is up, the character will automatically use a forward throw. Grabs cannot be mashed out of in this game, and the only way to escape grabs is if the victim is hit hard enough by a bystander's attack, in which case they will take the knockback of that attack. {{SSB|Donkey Kong}}'s cargo release available in his forward throw may be considered a pseudo-grab release, due to DK losing hold of the opponent so they are vulnerable in front of him for a few moments (allowing techniques such as the [[infinite throw trap]]), but it is more of a way the throw works rather than an actual grab release. |
Revision as of 10:00, October 2, 2013
I'll be using this sandbox to put some random stuff, saved drafts on articles, etc.
Rewrite grab release
I plan on rewriting grab release to properly accommodate the three types of grab releases. You are welcome to expand it.
This article may need additional technical data and a lot of information may need to be verified especially for Melee.
Grab release is the animation a character enters when they are freed from a grab without entering knockback. Normal grab release occurs after a certain amount of time if a grabbed character is not thrown (this time can be shortened by button mashing), but characters also enter grab release when the grabbing character enters hitstun or the platform they're standing on disappears. There are three main types of grab release animations: ground release, air release, and pummel release. Many combos can be performed by attacking when an opponent is stuck in the frames of their grab release animation. There are no grab releases in the original Super Smash Bros..
Types of grab release animations
Ground release
Ground release is the animation a character enters when they break out of a grab sliding backward along the ground, along with a "letting go" animation. The grabbing character may slide backward a bit as well. The distance sent is affected by the grabbing character and the victim's traction. A ground release causes both characters to be stuck in 30 frames of ending lag where they cannot react, with a few exceptions (see below). A ground release occurs when the grabbed character's feet are touching the ground and not moving around while being grabbed.
Air release
Air release is another animation a character can enter after escaping from a grab. In an air release, the grabbed character performs an arch-ike movement backwards into the air, along with a "letting go" animation. In Melee, the direction the grabbed character moves can be altered slightly by pressing left and/or right. The distance sent is character-specific and can be affected by air speed, falling speed, and falling acceleration. An air release causes the grabbing character to be stuck in 30 frames of lag, but the victim is stuck in 50 frames of lag, with a few exceptions (see below). An air release will always occur if the victim's feet are not touching the ground, but the grabbed character can force an air release (even if their feet are touching the ground) by pressing the jump button or up on the Control Stick shortly before being grab released. Taller characters tend to be able to air release more characters and are more vulnerable to ground releases, and shorter characters tend to be able to ground release more characters and are more vulnerable to air releases. However, the grabbing height of a character can be different depending on the direction they are facing, as well as whether a standing grab, dash grab, or pivot grab is used; a character could be air released facing left and ground released facing right, and vice versa. Despite having a 20-frame disadvantage, Only a few characters can be affected by grab release combos since the victim is usually sent away from the opponent.
Pummel release
The pummel release is a type of grab release very similar to the ground release, but it occurs when the grabbed character is pummeled right when or right before they are grab released. A pummel release can occur even if the character would normally be air released, and a pummel release cannot be forced into an air release by pressing up or jump. The distance sent by a pummel release can be different than the distance sent by a ground release, as a pummel release will cause normally air-released characters to fall to the ground without sliding backward.
Other grab releases
(the grabbing character getting into hitstun, possibly when the platform under them disappears, etc.)
Exceptions
Melee
- When Bowser grab releases a character, his animation is 10 frames shorter than all other characters'.
- Donkey Kong's ground release animation is 9 frames shorter than all other characters'.
Brawl
- Yoshi will always air release his grabbed opponent, sometimes in a different path than the character would normally take.
- When Bowser grab releases an opponent, his animation is 10 frames shorter than normal.
- Donkey Kong's ground release animation is 10 frames shorter than all other characters'.
- When Donkey Kong grab releases a character using his cargo throw, his animation is 10 frames shorter than the usual 30 frames of lag. His cargo throw will always release the opponent in an animation similar to a ground release, even if an air release is forced or he is in the air, and the opponent can alter their path slightly by moving the Control Stick left and right.
- Ness's and Lucas's ground release animations are 10 frames longer than normal.
- Wario's air release travels vertically instead of in a backwards arch like all other characters, leaving him vulnerable for 20 frames in front of the grabbing character. This is due to his exceptionally high air friction, normally notable for aiding his aerial maneuverability.
- Jigglypuff's air release is 1 frame shorter than normal, meaning that it could use Rest on the grabbing character should they get close enough.
- Several fastfallers, such as Fox, Falco, and Sheik, tend to land before their air release animation ends and so can act quicker.
- The arc that some characters travel in during an air release can leave them more vulnerable to followups depending on how narrow their arc is, leaving them closer to the opponent.
Notable grab release combos
Melee
- If Bowser ground releases his opponent, he can get a guaranteed dash grab, allowing him to perform a grab-release-chaingrab. He can also infinite some characters against walls, even with an air release.
- If Donkey Kong is ground released, he can get a guaranteed jab, down tilt, forward tilt, or a grab (only on some characters).
Brawl
- The Ice Climbers can perform infinite grab-release-chaingrabs on every character (except for another pair of climbers). This is performed by forcing a ground or pummel release and grabbing the victim with the other climber during their lag animation. It is not very practical, however, due to their other infinite chaingrabs, which deal damage much faster.
- Yoshi can perform a grab-release-chaingrab on half the cast by getting an air release and performing a dash grab. He also has a guaranteed up smash on some characters, and a forward aerial meteor smash on some characters as well (such as Meta Knight).
- Since Wario's air release sends him vertically in front of the opponent, he can be hit by any aerial attack with startup of 20 frames less, and even a ground attack with significant reach (such as King Dedede's up tilt).
- Ness and Lucas can be hit with any attack with 10 or less frames of startup if they are ground released or pummel released, and can be grab-release-chaingrabbed by many characters. They can also be zero-death chaingrabbed by Marth and infinited by Donkey Kong's cargo throw.
- Characters with unusually low-traveling arcs when air released, such as Fox, Falco, and Sheik, are left in more vulnerable edgeguarding positions when air released offstage.
- Squirtle can be grab-release-comboed, and chaingrabbed using a dash grab by several characters, and infinitely air released by Zero Suit Samus due to its unusual air release.
- Meta Knight can be grab-release-comboed and chaingrabbed by many characters due to his poor air release, most notably Marth.
Grab releases in the original Super Smash Bros.
Grab releases do not exist in Smash 64; a grab always lasts the same amount of time, and once that time is up, the character will automatically use a forward throw. Grabs cannot be mashed out of in this game, and the only way to escape grabs is if the victim is hit hard enough by a bystander's attack, in which case they will take the knockback of that attack. Donkey Kong's cargo release available in his forward throw may be considered a pseudo-grab release, due to DK losing hold of the opponent so they are vulnerable in front of him for a few moments (allowing techniques such as the infinite throw trap), but it is more of a way the throw works rather than an actual grab release.