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#Water types rule. [[Special:Contributions/67.173.145.76|67.173.145.76]] 12:00, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
#Water types rule. [[Special:Contributions/67.173.145.76|67.173.145.76]] 12:00, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
#No real competition. Water > Fire.[[Special:Contributions/94.4.227.74|94.4.227.74]] 16:47, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
#No real competition. Water > Fire.[[Special:Contributions/94.4.227.74|94.4.227.74]] 16:47, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
#Water > Ground; LOL. While I lament that the move Hydro Pump has been switched over to a not-often-seen legendary Pokémon rather than a more common Blastoise-family member, Kyogre is ''much'' more effective than its volcanic counterpart, Groudon (and I'm glad both of them finally transitioned to the ''Smash Bros.'' series). Kyogre actually bothers to ''move around the stage'' and damages foes on contact, '''in addition to''' blasting opponents off the stage with water. Groudon, however, just...sits there using "Overheat", with his true effectiveness mainly being restricted to small stages. And in the actual ''Pokémon'' handheld game series, Kyogre freaking decimates much of the opposition compared to Groudon. In any case, both of these Pokémon are awesome (with an excellent ominous battle theme in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4MrH2h2NUU the games]] and [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpnl3PRSBbo the Pokémon anime]], to boot), but Kyogre gains a major edge. [[Special:Contributions/72.3.33.15|72.3.33.15]] 14:10, 2 May 2012 (EDT)


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Perhaps maybe we could also put Rayquaza in this match too. :P [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:56, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
Perhaps maybe we could also put Rayquaza in this match too. :P [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:56, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
:: Agreed; a three-way match would have been much better, in my opinion. It seems wrong to exclude Rayquaza from the match, as a relationship has been established among Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza (most evident in the legends/stories of ''Pokémon Emerald Version''). Personally, I would have liked to see how Rayquaza fares against Kyogre, as I'm surprised that Kyogre is dominating with votes in this poll against Groudon. [[Special:Contributions/72.3.33.15|72.3.33.15]] 14:10, 2 May 2012 (EDT)


Hmm, a few people seem to think Kyogre uses Sheer Cold for its attack, and some think Groudon is a fire-type. I sense some of you may have thought that Kyogre uses Sheer Cold because of its trophy description, but it uses Hydro Pump. Groudon, I can understand, but it is in fact a pure ground type. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:21, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
Hmm, a few people seem to think Kyogre uses Sheer Cold for its attack, and some think Groudon is a fire-type. I sense some of you may have thought that Kyogre uses Sheer Cold because of its trophy description, but it uses Hydro Pump. Groudon, I can understand, but it is in fact a pure ground type. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:21, 1 May 2012 (EDT)


Some people thinks that Kyogre's Sheer Cold is powerful, but don't forget that Groudon can use Fissure. [[User:Stranger1260|<font style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman">'''Stranger</font>]] [[User talk:Stranger1260|<font style="color:green;font-family:times new roman">'''1260'''</font>]] [[File:Master_Ball.png|20px]] 07:37, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
Some people thinks that Kyogre's Sheer Cold is powerful, but don't forget that Groudon can use Fissure. [[User:Stranger1260|<font style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman">'''Stranger</font>]] [[User talk:Stranger1260|<font style="color:green;font-family:times new roman">'''1260'''</font>]] [[File:Master_Ball.png|20px]] 07:37, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
::Although Sheer Cold is advantageous in that no Pokémon has a natural type immunity to it, unlike Fissure (which Flying-type Pokémon and Pokémon with the Levitate ability easily avoid). [[Special:Contributions/72.3.33.15|72.3.33.15]] 14:10, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

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Round 136: Kyogre vs. Groudon

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 Winner!!
undecided

0 to 0
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The sea and the land collide once more. Which way will the coastline sway?

Votes for Kyogre

  1. I remember when my Ruby got stolen in 5th grade. Bad times. Kyogre FTW. 24.168.107.113 09:23, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  2. Probably the most satisfying KO possible in Smash Bros. would come courtesy of FLUDD/Water Gun, yet so many people diss it. Watching Kyogre take it to the extreme makes their ironic falls fun. I prefer Groudon as a Pokémon, but Kyogre edges it here. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 09:25, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  3. Even though I like Groudon better, Kyogre would be better at KOing people in Brawl. ..... The Cutest NintenNESsprite.png 10:25, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  4. Kyogre is badass against Groudon. ShupaRoeh 10:42, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  5. Hydro Pump > Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 10:50, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  6. A Sheer Cold KO at 0%. Groudon can't do that. DarkFox01 10:55, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  7. Can actually KO at lower percentages. 204.191.132.218 11:21, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  8. Water, my favorite type. AccoolX File:Accoolx.png 11:35, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  9. Kyogre, use sheer cold! 99.235.62.184 14:02, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  10. Kyogre is better in Brawl and better in RSE, and its robot version is more useful than Groudon's in XD. No amount of me wanting to vote for the underdog can change this. 123JamesHeart PatheticStickFigure.jpg 15:33, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  11. OHKO potential vs low damage and knockback. No contest. King KirbyD KingKirbyD.png 16:45, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  12. Kyogre has always been the superior Pokemon to me. 110.174.90.69 23:04, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  13. I really like water types more than ground types, also I like Kyogre's SHEER COLD!!!!!User:Smashtito 23:14, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
  14. In Gen 4, he was known as the King of Ubers, being the best pokemon in the game. In Brawl under normal situations, he's the only pokemon who can pretty much guarantee a KO without your involvement, and the only one who can KO the same opponent twice. The best pokemon in the RPGs, and the best pokemon in Brawl, while Groudon is by far the worst legendary in Brawl outside the gift givers and Manaphy. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 02:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
  15. Although I like Groudon better for a pokemon because it can use lots of fire type moves, in Brawl Kyogre is much better because it can just push others out of the screen easily. Stranger 1260 Master Ball.png 05:48, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
  16. They're both legendary, but I'm goin' for Kyogre. Smash Master 17:17, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
  17. Water types rule. 67.173.145.76 12:00, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
  18. No real competition. Water > Fire.94.4.227.74 16:47, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
  19. Water > Ground; LOL. While I lament that the move Hydro Pump has been switched over to a not-often-seen legendary Pokémon rather than a more common Blastoise-family member, Kyogre is much more effective than its volcanic counterpart, Groudon (and I'm glad both of them finally transitioned to the Smash Bros. series). Kyogre actually bothers to move around the stage and damages foes on contact, in addition to blasting opponents off the stage with water. Groudon, however, just...sits there using "Overheat", with his true effectiveness mainly being restricted to small stages. And in the actual Pokémon handheld game series, Kyogre freaking decimates much of the opposition compared to Groudon. In any case, both of these Pokémon are awesome (with an excellent ominous battle theme in [the games] and [the Pokémon anime], to boot), but Kyogre gains a major edge. 72.3.33.15 14:10, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Half votes

  1. Kyogre easily KOs people by pushing them off the stage, while Groudon only turns around on the spot wher it was summoned. Plus, Kyogre follows you everywhere, while Groudon is easy to dodge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.218.146 (talk • contribs) 01:07, 29 April (EDT)
  2. Kyogre moves around, blowing every opponent away with water. Groudon just chills around on one spot.-Kaizer24.185.135.102 01:48, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Votes for Groudon

  1. Kyogre is much more powerful than Groudon. Therefore, Groudon is more fair. Meta Ike MetaIke.png 20:16, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
  2. Fire. --Fireemblemlogo.pngFan275 13:39, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
  3. This guy looks cooler. This is a pity vote really.92.42.57.34 04:48, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
  4. More sympathy votes. 199.185.67.18 11:04, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
  5. He lives in a volcano. Nuff' said.174.30.220.71 17:19, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
  6. I kinda don't see why everyone likes water more than fire. Sorry if this is a pokemon reference, but fire decks are all the rage in the tcg nowdays.71.55.130.169 17:34, 1 May 2012 (EDT)BK

Comments

Perhaps maybe we could also put Rayquaza in this match too. :P ..... The Cutest NintenNESsprite.png 13:56, 29 April 2012 (EDT)

Agreed; a three-way match would have been much better, in my opinion. It seems wrong to exclude Rayquaza from the match, as a relationship has been established among Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza (most evident in the legends/stories of Pokémon Emerald Version). Personally, I would have liked to see how Rayquaza fares against Kyogre, as I'm surprised that Kyogre is dominating with votes in this poll against Groudon. 72.3.33.15 14:10, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Hmm, a few people seem to think Kyogre uses Sheer Cold for its attack, and some think Groudon is a fire-type. I sense some of you may have thought that Kyogre uses Sheer Cold because of its trophy description, but it uses Hydro Pump. Groudon, I can understand, but it is in fact a pure ground type. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 18:21, 1 May 2012 (EDT)

Some people thinks that Kyogre's Sheer Cold is powerful, but don't forget that Groudon can use Fissure. Stranger 1260 Master Ball.png 07:37, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Although Sheer Cold is advantageous in that no Pokémon has a natural type immunity to it, unlike Fissure (which Flying-type Pokémon and Pokémon with the Levitate ability easily avoid). 72.3.33.15 14:10, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Round 135: Polygons vs. Wireframes vs. Alloys

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Yellow Alloy.pngGreenAlloy.jpg
Winner!!
Polygons
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15 to 6.5 to 9.5
The three mysterious enemy teams fight it out. Which set of punching bags has the bigger team spirit?

Votes for Polygons

  1. Polygons are the entity of everything. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum Transparent Swadloon.png 11:57, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  2. Polygon kicks butt ShupaRoeh (talk) 12:53, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  3. The Cheese says: The Fighting Polygon Team is altogether more powerfull than the others and they would kick the compotition's butt in a fight! 75.31.4.16 14:15, 21 April 2012 (EDT) The Cheese 1:15 P.M. April 21 2012
  4. They look like anything. They are the most original, considering the fact that they have the most forms and not all of them look like humans. King KirbyD KingKirbyD.png 15:24, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  5. For some reason, I have an affection for polygons. Maybe it's the way they look. --Fireemblemlogo.pngFan275 17:09, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  6. Don't have 64 and never faced them, but they're the oddest in my opinion. Plus, according to Toomai, purple is "the color of mysteries and shadow." DarkFox01 18:22, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  7. "You must construct additional polygons!" If anyone gets the internet show (or game) you deserve a cookie. But really they are epic! 208.54.40.145 01:04, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  8. The first of this kind of things are always the best Stranger 1260 Master Ball.png 06:12, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  9. There is the most of 'em. Meta Ike MetaIke.png 21:39, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  10. Why Polygons? Because MOTHER FUCKING POLYGON YOSHI, that's why.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 07:53, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
  11. ..... The Cutest NintenNESsprite.png 09:17, 24 April 2012 (EDT)
  12. Oh yeah. No doubt. 140.182.130.41 09:17, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
  13. Although I love the designs of the Fighting Alloy Team a bit better, the Fighting Polygon Team is classic and nostalgic. I mean, just hearing the announcer go "(Player) versus...FIGHTING POLYGON TEAM!" makes you go "Oh, cool!...wait, wut?" with the team having such an unusual name (in both English and Japanese). The exaggerated purple polygon designs only add to the charm of these "Dummy Combo/Corps." small fry. And honestly, these guys can be quite challenging/annoying on the Very Hard level/setting in SSB 64's 1P mode. Imagine if a "Fighting Polygon Team" modeled after Melee or Brawl[='s=] characters were to exist in Multi-Man Melee/Brawl mode... *shudders* Oh, and their accompanying "Duel Zone" music rocks your socks off. 72.3.33.48 14:27, 26 April 2012 (EDT)
  14. Classic. Blue Ninjakoopa(Talk) 02:19, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

Half votes

  1. The polygons definitely have the biggest variety out of the three groups. Toadat9021doh (talk) 14:02, 21 April 2012 (EDT) 14:01, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  2. The Alloys may look better, but the polygons just keep on surrounding and bothering you, no matter how much there are.-Justin, now becoming Kaizer24.185.135.102 14:44, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

Votes for Wireframes

  1. The only one that doesn't look stupid. What is wrong with you people? DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 18:39, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  2. Still need to play Smash Bros. 64. LightningBlue: LBPeep LB Peep.png 00:18, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  3. Look the most threatening of the lot. --- ReiDemon, Author Extraordinaire, 11:08, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  4. A pity vote. 199.185.67.18 11:07, 23 April 2012 (EDT)
  5. They look better than the Polygons do, but still have the retro look you don't quite get with the Alloys. Flicky1991 (talk) 11:20, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
  6. They are cool 96.29.128.222 09:51, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

Half votes

  1. Haven't played SSB, and the ones in brawl are annoying. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.116.43 (talk • contribs) 22:31, 26 April 2012 (EDT)

Votes for Alloys

  1. More color variety. 204.191.132.218 14:05, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  2. I just like these guys the most. 110.174.90.69 21:52, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
  3. Cooler, Meaner, More fun to fight, mixes the Fighting Polygon’s diversity with the Fighting Wire Frames strength. These guys are everything in a fighting team.--71.48.183.91 00:30, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  4. These guys are colorful, though I would say the Wire Frames look more intense. 123JamesHeart PatheticStickFigure.jpg 01:12, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  5. Oh, dear gravy, the Cruel Brawls!!! 68.174.10.229 10:34, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  6. I feel like they have the best looking design. If they didn't it would be them or the polygons. Mich5643 (talk) 10:39, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  7. I've only played Brawl. AccoolX File:Accoolx.png 19:57, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
  8. Mostly for the red and blue alloys.174.30.220.71 14:20, 23 April 2012 (EDT)
  9. I like these guys they are mario,zelda,captain falcon and Kirby. Awesome92.42.57.34 05:18, 24 April 2012 (EDT)

Half votes

  1. These guys have colours. They have a Captain Falcon. They are cool! Alloys=Aliens. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.17.116.198 (talk • contribs) 02:29, April 24 2012 (EDT)

Comments

It's about time this match happened! The Alloys definitely need better opponents than the R.O.B. Squad. toadat9021doh 12:17, 21 April 2012 (EST)

It says 1. twice ShupaRoeh (talk) 13:07, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

I fixed it. Turns out it's Swadloon. ShupaRoeh (talk) 13:36, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
...No you didn't, I fixed it. And toadat9021doh, if your vote has been placed in the half votes section, you may not move it out afterwards. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatumTransparent Swadloon.png 13:53, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

This battle is beginning to heat up! ShupaRoehFile:GWHeadSSBB.png 20:31, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

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