Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions

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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules

• The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
• Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
• Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
• Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
• Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.
• You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
• Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.
• Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
• Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
• The comments section is to be used for relevant comments.
• Check this list to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occured 100 rounds ago.
• Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once.
• In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
• Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
• Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
• If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
• And finally, do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.

Queue

The current queue is as such:

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

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Template

To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:

==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

===Support===

===Oppose===

===Comments===

Suggestions

PK Starstorm (Lucas) vs. PK Starstorm (Ness)

They are same, but they still have difference. I'd like to see which one is favored Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 08:34, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Some differences you don't even notice. --107.5.57.137 06:49, 25 August 2011 (EDT)
2. I like it. --174.59.4.202 11:46, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
3. It'd be fun to read people's reasons for voting on each. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 12:07, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. I think the only way you could favor one over the other and have an actual reason for it depends on the size of the stages you fight on, so no thanks. Squishyfrog Chat 08:42, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
2. the diference is sooooo small >_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 08:49, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
3. This is more like a character fight than anything.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 10:00, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Clone matchups is one thing, but cloned move matchups? Mr. Anon (talk) 12:03, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Simply too similar to be interesting. ReiDemon 21:53, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
6. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 22:21, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
7. LANDMASTER VS LANDMASTER FIRST MegaTron1XD 00:04, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
8. Basically the same. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:04, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
9. Above.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 14:25, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
10. There aren't enough differences in my opinion. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Ally vs. Mew2King

Both have won many tournaments, discovered brawling tactics you might be using today, have had their efforts notified all around the Smash community and are regarded as some of the best Brawlers around, which Meta Knight main do you think is better?--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 09:09, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Agrees with dodo's comment >_>Lucas-IV- OH MY PORK! 09:43, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
2. If this match is allowed, I'll support, as they are the two best smashers in Brawl. Omega Tyrant 13:44, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Don't know who they are. Don't give a damn who they are. It just makes a difference. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:04, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. To those of us who aren't into competiteve smashing (if that's even the correct term), this fight is rather blah. And I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the readers/users here weren't into the whole competetive side of things. --174.59.4.202 11:23, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
2. It's these two smashers that make Brawl look bad by them both maining the top tier guys. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:02, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Going to cause alienation for those who aren't used to the technical or competitive areas of the games. In the latter case, higher profile players should be featured, such as Ken Hoang or Aniki. ReiDemon 21:53, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Interesting idea, but not a very good one. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 22:21, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Great suggestion but I don't think anyone will care about these two guys. ..... lolz Airbore 22:25, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
6. I fuckin hate competitive Smash. Blindcolours Damn Sky Runner broke again... 23:28, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
7. But Ally has been beating M2K in recent tournies. MegaTron1XD 00:04, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
8. If you don't pay attention to the competitive field, you wouldn't be able to vote. And it wouldn't draw in new users. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 14:15, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
9. I don't even know who they are...--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 14:25, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
10. Don't like the idea of fights with combatants not in the actual games. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

dang it, Ally is now recently going to main Meta Knight. ..... lolz Airbore 09:13, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

This is a nice suggestion, but are competitive smashers eligible to be in the Smash Arena? Omega Tyrant 09:22, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

HAHAH Probably not, but since when was doing things by the rules fun?--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 09:26, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

This is a rather tricky one. The letter of the rule says that SA competitors have to have appeared in a Smash Bros. game (implying they must be in-game assets), which would invalidate this; on the other hand, I see no reason to disallow it should the support be there. Of course, the second problem is that a round with these two would probably have a low amount of "legit" votes, seeing as the average SA voters probably doesn't give a crap about competitive play and may have only heard of either of them, and thus wouldn't be a good idea without some other bouts at the same time to keep interest up (which typically only occur every 25 rounds). Toomai Glittershine The Undirigible 10:15, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Yes that is very correct, some users might find this boring unfortunately. But if this suggestion does get passed, somehow, it could just wait till a multiple fight round unless the majority of support votes have something stating they don't want it to... like having Individual bout on the ends of their votes. That could work right?--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 10:33, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

@Mr. Anon: How does Ally make Brawl look bad simply by using top tier characters, when the best players of essentially every competitive game do? I agree Mew2King does, but that's due to his antics at tournaments, rather than his character choice.

@Reidemon: How are the two best Brawl players not high profile enough? I guarantee Ally and Mew2King are more known than Aniki is. Omega Tyrant 13:44, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

Wrong choice of words, I guess. Mostly, I'm referring to the absolute best in the game, with no doubts. Ally, as said in his own article, is said to be struggling in recent times, and Mew2king strikes me more of the technical player than a competitive one. They may be famous, sure, but I don't think they're the best representatives for Brawl.

I'm not completely familiar with the wide competitive scene for Brawl, though, so if my thoughts are incorrect...well then, they probably are. But hey, this forum is just for suggestions, so I decided to put my two cents in. ReiDemon 18:29, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

Ally struggling? He just won KTAR6 a week ago, and was either winning or running up in previous regionals/nationals. And in Brawl, these two are currently the absolute best, which is the basis for Dodo's suggestion. As for how good of representatives they are, it's pretty irrelevant, though I think Ally is a pretty good rep (Mew2King on the other hand...). Omega Tyrant 18:59, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

Speaking of blindcolours saying something bad about competative smashing, I clearly don't know why blindcolours hates competitive smash although I thought he mained meta knight one time, but I do agree that he does not like it when I ask people to brawl, aka. I use Pikachu, Fox, Meta Knight. So this practically makes me a tier lover, and I think that everyone want fun smashing, not competitive smashing like blindcolours. ..... I think so.... S454 21:31, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Mario vs. Bowser

Repeat fights are allowed after 100 rounds have passed. Why not celebrate the triple digits by revisiting round 1? --Jelloratbob 11:34, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Good idea!ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 11:37, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Nice idea. I like it. ReiDemon 21:53, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
3. I support, as the first time around, this matchup was very close, and the results could very well be different. Omega Tyrant 13:44, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
4. I know which side will take this vote. :( People just don't get how epic this matchup is, really. --107.5.57.137 06:46, 25 August 2011 (EDT)
5. I'm going to say that since Smashwiki has gotten more users since match number one, the results could be very different and very interesting, at that. So I support this idea. Squishyfrog Chat 18:49, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Even though it is allowed, I'd rather have something more original. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:04, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
2. What Anon said ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 22:21, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Per all. Blindcolours Damn Sky Runner broke again... 23:08, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
4. They meet again for the billionth time. Boring. MegaTron1XD 00:04, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
5. We know the outcome. Mario wins. Bowser kidnaps Peach. Mario wins. Blah Blah Blah. Toad cries "Sorry but our princess....." boring Pikmin Brawler Go Steve the Pikmin! 00:24, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
6. Boring duuuuuuuuh. Bowser lose, Peach kidnapped, Mario kick some ass, Mario eat some cake, and back to "Bowser lose" Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 04:00, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
7. Despite being allowed to re-do old matches, I don't want them redone. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 12:45, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
8. BORING.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 14:25, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
9. Don't like the idea of repeat matches personally. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

King Dedede vs Ice Climbers

Both are artic related, use a hammer as their main weapon, and wear a parka or whatever. It's not the best idea, but it works nonetheless. Blindcolours Damn Sky Runner broke again... 23:15, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Sounds fun. Penguin getting killed by two kids. Perfect. Pikmin Brawler Go Steve the Pikmin! 00:18, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
2. There's been a similar battle but I'd still be interested to see who'd win this. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Done before therefore don't like. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 14:49, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Wait until Round 147 man. --107.5.57.137 15:42, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
3. No. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 22:09, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Above.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 14:25, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
5. above and since when Dedede is artic-related? ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 11:15, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

...We're allowed to vote for our own suggestions? ReiDemon 23:33, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Duh. Blindcolours Damn Sky Runner broke again... 23:43, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

In the rules it says you don't need to because suggesting it already shows your support. --174.59.4.202 23:47, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Also, this was done in Round 46, so even if it got enough supports to run again you'd have to wait until Round 146 for it to show up. Toomai Glittershine The Different 23:48, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

Didn't know that sorry. Blindcolours Damn Sky Runner broke again... 20:00, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

@110.174.90.69: This was the fight. --107.5.57.137 09:25, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

@Lucasthefourth: DDD is a penguin.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 11:17, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

:0 but in snakes codec: so... He's not a penguin??.?ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 11:21, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Samus vs. Snake

Samus held the record for most projectiles in Melee (tied with Link, but let's face it, Samus's were way better), but the record was taken by Snake in Brawl. Both can use explosives, are good with kicks, and are pretty hefty. Who's got the edge? Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 03:05, 24 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Projectile Girl vs. Explosive Man? ...This is good! Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 03:39, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
2. the two <3ers fighting? Lolol now that's what i'm talkin' aboutò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 09:43, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
3. ^^ BiTF refrence? anyway, I like it. --174.59.4.202 11:48, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Intro supports my support. Omega Tyrant 13:44, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
5. http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/2010/05/06/142-snake-in-the-grass-part-2/ -Ivy73 13:59, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
6. Yes. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:04, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
7. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 22:09, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
8. I would rather not explain why this is a good matchup. I think viewing both Samuses' codecs is enough. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:31, 24 August 2011 (EDT)
9. Just enough votes to say PER ALL! --107.5.57.137 06:53, 25 August 2011 (EDT)
10. Snake + Samus lol (joke). But take a look at Snakes codec talk about her, like Anon said.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 14:25, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
11. Surprised this hasn't been done yet. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

@Ivy73: All I see in that comic is Snake, CF, and some woman. --107.5.57.137 06:53, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

That's Samus without the suit. --174.59.4.202 11:09, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

Since Samus held the record for the most projectiles in Melee (ok tied with link), if this fight was put up, would it have Samus' Melee or Brawl picture? --107.5.57.137 06:53, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

Note that while this is a good idea for a fight, in SSB64 Samus did NOT have the most projectiles (nor did Link). That title was held by Kirby, who had 3 or four projectiles, depending on the definition (final cutter, horizontal star shot, vertical star shot, and copied projectiles). Mr. Anon (talk) 11:25, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

@107.5.57.137 - Samus from Brawl. You could say she's out to avenge her lost rank or something to that effect.

@Anon - While that's true, it's only situational, considering that the star spit only works as an effective projectile if there are more than two opponents. I've never seen Kirby shoot a star upward, by the way, but I'll try it out whenever I have time. Regardless, vertical or horizontal, the star shot is one projectile move. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 11:30, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

By vertical star shot I mean when he uses copy and shoots a small star upwards. I've actually KOed some people with it. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:43, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

King Dedede vs. Olimar

Dedede uses Waddle Dees in his side special and FS, whereas Olimar uses Pikmin in almost all of his attacks. Dr. 8-Bit (talk) 16:56, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. I know everyone will oppose this, but they are similar and contrasting in very interesting ways. King Dedede is one of the largest, heaviest, and strongest characters, while Olimar is one of the smallest, lightest, and fastest. Yet both of them are relatively close to eachother tier wise. Furthermore, both Pikmin and Waddle Dees have similar characteristics, as both of them move around and can be killed. Mr. Anon (talk) 18:07, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
2. I'll support this based on the fact they both throw their minions at opponents, as well having among the best grabbing games. Olimar is also one of Dedede's worst matchups, so this has a competitive appeal too. I will say however, Anon is wrong when he claims Olimar is one of the fastest characters (his movement is slow, and while attack speed is fast, it isn't among the fastest). Omega Tyrant 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Waddle Dees/Doos move around on their own and Pikmin either follow Olimar or attack. And personally, I don't think one similar move justifies these two fighting each other. Mabye if it was Waddle Dee throw vs. Pikmin throw, but not this. --174.59.4.202 19:02, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Nah ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 23:43, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Both totally different. Waddle Dees have AI and move of their own accord too. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:58, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Too different.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 07:01, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
5. This seems more like it'd be a Waddle Dee vs Pikmin fight. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

@OmegaTyrant: I completely forgot about the grabs thing. Thanks for reminding me. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:14, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Bulborb vs. Fish (The Summit)

Two carnivorous creatures that serve as one-hit KO hazards in different stages. But which is more popular? ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 18:48, 26 August 2011 (EDT) Also, Smash Arena fights tend to be two-way, so I didn't include The Ultimate Chimera, but if anybody wants a three-way fight including it, please say so.

Support

1. Hungry stage hazards that are way bigger than they should be. It's got my vote. (But seriously Nintendo? You made Pikmin, make the bulborbs somewhere close to the size they are there. But that's beside the point.) --174.59.4.202 19:02, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Per above. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 23:43, 26 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Since the Chimera doesn't actually eat you, it seems like a good enough battle. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:58, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Munch!ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 04:56, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
5. The opposition is... <you fill a negative word here, I can't. :P> Per all. --107.5.57.137 06:44, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
6. Stage hazards!--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 07:01, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
7. Would be a cool fight. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
8. Both stage hazards function very similarly. Omega Tyrant 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
9. Very appealing suggestion. Both can eat and KO characters, but the Bulborb doesn't damage. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Size difference 206.53.148.16 04:10, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

@Oppose: Does size matter? NOOOO. --107.5.57.137 09:26, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Mites vs Tabuu

The smallest but hard worker vs the bawss of the bawss. We have too much "fights because they are similair" so lets try "Fight where the two are totally different". Like homerun bat vs sandbag!ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 05:08, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. We've had a R.O.B. Squad vs Galleom before, so I can't object to this. Obscurities are generally more fun for me in The Smash Arena. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 06:28, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. much too epic to oppose. --107.5.57.137 09:45, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Tabuu can be hard, Mites can be really annoying. --174.59.4.202 11:46, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Sort of like the Home-Run Bat and Sandbag one we voted on. Last I recall, everyone liked it. What's so different about this one? ReiDemon 11:49, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
5. The pure oddness and uniqueness of this matchup is enough for me to support it. Omega Tyrant 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Tabuu: RE-JEC-TED! *kicks Mites* Mites: *dead* 206.53.148.17 06:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Who says the Mites are the crappiest?--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 07:01, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Dude. Seriously. This could be a one-sided match in my opinion Kirbythe Amazing Know my power! 07:10, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Very one-sided match. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
5. Mites? No ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 13:10, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
6. ...Mr. Anon (talk) 16:23, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
7. Just no. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:40, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
8. Pitting a boss (final boss for that matter) against a regular enemy isn't a very good idea. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

I dont think this will be one sided. Some probably will said "tabuu sucks" and others says "mites sucks" ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 08:18, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

There are still people who seem to believe Smash Arena is some sort of fighting simulator, and as such, will not support any matchup where the contestants are perceived as "imbalanced". Omega Tyrant 12:07, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

exactly, this is a popularity contest not ' who is the strongest if you compare them' contest. ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 12:24, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

DOES ANYONE READ THE DESCRIPTION? ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 13:24, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

@bnk remember Meta knight vs Meta ridley? Though meta knight wasnt an opponent, he's not a boss either ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 23:49, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Sheik vs. Diddy Kong

Exactly the same as the Luigi vs. Captain Falcon fight, only the losers square off. You heard me! Diddy Kong and Sheik currently have a 0-3 record. Which will finally win? There is Peach and Yoshi if Yoshi loses this match --107.5.57.137 06:39, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Gives both characters a chance to get a win on the board. 110.174.90.69 07:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. The worst of the worst face off. Yesh.-Ivy73 12:01, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. ???--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 07:01, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Don't like it. Blindcolours Ganbarimasu! 11:38, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
3. No way ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 13:10, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
4. There will probably be a lot more losers. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:40, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
5. actually, Peach and Olimar are the biggest SA losers with 0-4. ..... Naturaly why? 16:44, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
6. Per Dots. ReiDemon 17:26, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
7. Per .... --174.59.4.202 18:41, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
8. If you are going to make a fight between losers, it should use the biggest losers. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 09:11, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
9. Per the above. This matchup loses its appeal if there's another possible matchup that more fulfills the intention of this matchup. Omega Tyrant 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
10. Sheik and Diddy share speed and the ability to wall cling, but other than that, the match-up is sort of bland. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

@Dots: I didn't say the two biggest losers. --107.5.57.137 06:53, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

True, but it's not nearly as interesting as the biggest losers. What made Luigi vs. Falcon interesting was that they were the biggest winners. It wouldn't be nearly as interesting if it were the second places. ReiDemon 22:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Trophy Tussle 1 vs. Trophy Tussle 2 vs. Trophy Tussle 3

The three events in Melee that award you with the trophy you just fought on. Which is the best? --174.59.4.202 11:53, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. I've always said that the best fights in the Smash Arena feature obscurities (One day, the Controls test stage will compete...) so this is in my tastes. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 12:06, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Great suggestion here, the trophy tussles were interesting and unique events, played on stages you couldn't play elsewhere without hacking. Of course, people are going to oppose it due to their lack of familiarity with the trophy tussles :/ Omega Tyrant 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
3. I love fights like these. The underappreciated battles and things in the game. ReiDemon 22:02, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
4. I believe this suggestion merits support per the above comments. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Oh suuureeee, 9_9 why not target smash lv 1 vs target smash lv 2?ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 12:01, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Just... wth?--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 13:06, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Um, what? ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 13:10, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Just don't get it. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:40, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
5. This is just like a Target Smash!! battle. In other words, per Lucasthefourth. --107.5.57.137 17:21, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Super Mushroom vs. Poison Mushroom

On one hand, you can make yourself giant with a Super Mushroom, and make them tiny with a Poison Mushroom. On the other, you can become smaller with a Poison Mushroom, and your foes can be bigger with the Super Mushroom. Which is more useful? Toa 95 (talk) 16:18, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Sounds good. Blindcolours Ganbarimasu! 16:20, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Yeah, all right. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 16:40, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Beyond epic. --107.5.57.137 17:21, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
4. sweet ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 18:59, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
5. It's-a-me, Wolf, and I say YESH!--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 06:54, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
6. I dislike both items, but the concept is interesting. Omega Tyrant 17:25, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
7. This would be especially appealing if the poison mushroom's colors matched its colors in All Stars and the Mario Party games that have the mushroom (or variants of it) available as an item. For those who don't know what those colors are: Purple and green. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 18:41, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Seems extremely biased.-Ivy73 18:50, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
2. I hate getting poisoned. I love super mushrooms. This battle actually IS one-sided. --174.59.4.202 19:34, 27 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Per Above ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 09:08, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
4. Who the hell would vote poison mushroom? ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:23, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
5. If this suggestion appeared in SA, I felt pity for Poison Mushroom 206.53.148.144 16:29, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

• Think about it this way. Would you rather you be big or your enemies be small? They can both have their advantages. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:06, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

EXACTLY what I thought when I first thought of this! Toa 95 (talk)

Me big because I have an advantage over all of my foes instead of just one. --174.59.4.202 19:05, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

"Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself." ReiDemon 19:07, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

This is me explaining how this fight is imbalanced, not voting. --174.59.4.202 19:51, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Meta Knight vs. Ike

I don't know if this is good or not. The lightest character vs the heaviest character who uses a sword. Who do you like better? ..... Naturaly why? 20:02, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. I actually like this one. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 11:23, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
2. After seeing discussions over Ike beating MK on AiB, I'm actually enticed to say yes.-Ivy73 20:40, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
3. They are kewl 206.53.148.209 03:31, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Sorry, I just don't see any other similarities other than "they wield swords". ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:08, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Per above. --174.59.4.202 22:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Just a little boring, sorry. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 13:42, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

I knew this was a bad idea for sure, dispite being my first suggestion. ..... Naturaly why? 09:10, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Squirtle vs. Koopa Troopa

The two small turtle-like characters face off. Both are able to retreat into their shells and move around like that but who is the best? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:13, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. There's been Ice Climbers vs. Hammer Bro before. I love Koopa Troopas, and there'd be no better opponent for them than Squirtle. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 13:42, 31 August 2011 (EDT)
2. looking at DP99's post, I almost wanted to oppose. But if I think again, koopa and squirtle are both from popular series, which might be interesting ò.óLucas-IV- Combo God! 23:46, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. One is a playable character in Brawl. One only shows in SSE and Adventure. ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 21:30, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
2. Per above. --174.59.4.202 22:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Above.-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 05:05, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

• It's a popularity contest. Also, Squirtle can be KOd by Koopa. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 10:13, 30 August 2011 (EDT)

All SSBB Bosses vs. All Brawl Fighters

An epic battle between the bosses in the SSBB boss battles(including Crazy Hand) and the legal playable Brawl characters!Will the brawlers get crushed,or will the bosses fall?99.111.204.97 20:34, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Support

1. Interesting idea... ReiDemon 20:46, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
2. :D ..... I think so.... S454 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Oppose

1. Too many characters. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 20:41, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
2. I'm not sure if my crappy computer would even be able to load the page. NO WAY. WAY too many characters. --174.59.4.202 22:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
3. Essentially just "boss or playable character", which is all just far too generic. Be specific, don't just throw two types of characters at each other with no reason. Omega Tyrant 22:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
4. 12 characters in Round 64 was already enough, but this is nearly 50 characters battling. We don't even have 50 regularly active users. Even if you narrow it down to only Brawl newcommers, that is still 23 different guys fighting. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:12, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
5. This is the worst suggestion I have ever seen. Are you trying to be funny? In the words of the great James Rolfe, "I don't get it." ƋoӄԏoяΠɛəи99 _{ROLLBACKER} 23:10, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
6. Per all. Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 23:14, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
7. SA page would be screwed up I guess...-- PSIWolf (T • C • E) 05:05, 30 August 2011 (EDT)
8. Drawing a reason to support either furing the fight would be hard, too many subcategories within each option. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 13:42, 31 August 2011 (EDT)

Comments

This is a popularity contest remember? Blindcolours tappity Tappity TAPPITY 20:37, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

@Anon and IP 174: This person isn't suggesting all bosses and playable characters going individually, but rather the bosses against the playable characters. Still a poor suggestion nonetheless though. Omega Tyrant 22:16, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

Dragoon Parts vs. Smash Ball

Normally you'd think that the Smash Ball is superior for sure, but the Dragoon Parts can be very accurate, and are pretty cool. However, you still need to collect all three pieces. The Smash ball, of course is very cool, but for some characters, it has downsides, ie Marth, and some characters don't have very good smashes, like Peach. What do you think? Mastersword (talk) 02:45, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

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