Talk:Donkey Kong (SSBM)

NOTE: The following was moved from DK grab glitch's talk page in a merge with this page.

verification

How must this be (officially) verified? Zixor (talk) 00:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Video is the preferred method. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 00:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

-and what would one do with the video? Zixor (talk) 05:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Give me the link, and I will post it. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 05:30, 20 July 2008 (UTC))

I have no such link. I am merely curious as to the method by which one would go about obtaining verification. As well, I am curious why this article, in particular, requires verification, and what would change should it be "granted". Zixor (talk) 16:54, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

My guess is that there is' nothing truly required for "verification". Zixor (talk) 20:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, I guess the discovery information wasn't redundant. It appeared as such at the time. (Wolf O'Donnell (talk · contributions) 01:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC))

How about we move this to the DK melee page! Doc King (talk) 18:20, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Serpent King....

I do. It's a glitch and it exists, let it live. Ganonmew (talk) 10:07, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

The problem with this page is that it doesn't have a lot to cover, thus the merge proposal. we should document this glitch, but it's not expansive enough to have an entire, 3,000 character page. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 10:11, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

Yeah, I don't really think this deserves to have its own page either. In my opinion it could go under a Trivia section or to the "List of flaws in artificial intelligence (SSBM)" page. John PK SMAAAASH!! 10:18, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

I'll merge it later unless opposes come up. Serpent King (talk) 10:43, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

Yea. Also, apologies for not doing anything productive compared to when I was an IP guys, it's just been hard to find things to do. Ganonmew (talk) 10:51, 18 August 2015 (EDT)

Glitch or AI flaw?

I don't get why this is considered a glitch. If it only happens to CPUs, then it's simply an AI flaw explained by the CPU not recognising that it can escape DK's cargo throw when re-grabbed too quickly after being thrown, ceasing inputs for some reason. That said, this shouldn't be its own page but maybe listed as trivia on the Donkey Kong (SSBM) page: as for the AI flaws page, I find this too specific to be listed as one there. DracoRexKing 21:12, 27 August 2015 (EDT)

I believe the consensus is that the articles should be merged; I just did so. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 21:21, 27 August 2015 (EDT)

Akir and da

In response to the recent edit adding these two without discussion, I've opted to begin the discussion myself.

As far as Akir goes, while he has placed well in many online tournaments and certain regionals, I am pretty sure most of his deep bracket runs are due to playing top tiers and not DK. Feel free to fact check me if this isn't the case, but that's what I've been led to believe according to PGStats.

As for da, despite not having any notable results afaik, I do believe he is a notable enough labber to be listed in the section. He is responsible for the DK Cookbook and is essentially to DK what Savestate and Rienne are to Link and Zelda respectively. Señor Mexicano (talk) 20:04, November 18, 2022 (EST)

Junebug and ckyulmiqnudaetr/quang

I made this edit, which was reverted due to a discussion being needed. So, I propose that Junebug and ckyulmiqnudaetr/quang be added to the notable players section; they have placed very well at recent majors and both have very good wins and are ranked highly in their respective regions. Any disagreements? 74.67.164.210 19:29, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

I think ckyulmiqnudaetr is fine. They were an HM on the MPGR 2019 and has some very solid wins and major placements. Junebug, on the other hand, has been a Sheik main for most of his career, and it seems like at his recent majors he's been playing whatever he wants, eg Dr. Mario at Double Down 2022. His only usage of DK at a major was 17th at Collision 2023, which while good is 1) currently his only usage of DK at a major, and 2) a pretty recent tournament as of this post, so I'd wait and see how much more DK Junebug would use at majors before adding him to the section. CookiesCreme 19:48, April 25, 2023 (EDT)

I'll point out that ckyu, then known as Quang, was a Fox and Ice Climbers main when he made HM on the 2019 MPGR, so it's completely irrelevant to his significance as a DK player. Looking into it deeper, it doesn't appear he used DK at any major tournaments before TBH10. That also brings into question how much of the wins cited were actually with DK; I can see he won against Bobby and Kalvar at Genesis 9 using DK, but the other wins that were claimed in the IP's reverted entry are not accounted for at Genesis 9 nor TBH10. Given that, I'll veto adding him for now as it's too soon to add off of just two results, unless evidence of significant DK usage is shown before this. I'll also agree with not adding Junebug over just a single result, while also just like ckyu, none of the cited wins in the reverted entry actually occurred with Junebug's lone cited result at Collision. IP, you can't be listing wins the player got with other characters or at locals in these sections. Omega Tyrant 14:49, April 26, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah I didn't look into ckyu's majors before they really started to play DK and assumed they were always a DK main. I'm taking back my support for now. CookiesCreme 15:14, April 26, 2023 (EDT)