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A belly flop, emphasising K. Rool's huge weight and armor. King K. Rool's down smash is among his most notorious attacks, for its [[Belly Super Armor]] and hurtbox shift specifically making [[grab]]s miss. This is because K. Rool's hurtbox shifts above grab hitboxes as soon as frame 4. While it deals less knockback than [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Forward smash|forward smash]], it remains a monumentally powerful attack, ending stocks as early as 80%. Due to this, K. Rool's down smash is largely considered to be one of the best [[down smash]]es in the game.  
A belly flop, emphasising K. Rool's huge weight and armor. King K. Rool's down smash is among his most notorious attacks, for its [[Belly Super Armor]] and hurtbox shift specifically making [[grab]]s miss. This is because K. Rool's hurtbox shifts above grab hitboxes as soon as frame 4. While it deals less knockback than [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Forward smash|forward smash]], it remains a monumentally powerful attack, ending stocks as early as 80%. Due to this, K. Rool's down smash is largely considered to be one of the best [[down smash]]es in the game.  


Down smash is one of the most difficult moves to challenge on startup in the game, due to the aforementioned hurtbox shift and Belly Super Armor. Low attacks and regular grabs simply miss, and regular or high reaching attacks tend to hit the armor. The only feasible way to challenge the move is to attack from above, where K. Rool completely lacks any armor.  
Down smash is one of the most difficult moves to challenge on startup in the game, due to the aforementioned hurtbox shift and Belly Super Armor. Low attacks and regular grabs simply miss, and regular or high reaching attacks tend to hit the armor. The only feasible way to challenge the move is to attack from above, where K. Rool completely lacks any armor. This protection, combined with kill power, makes down smash - long and far - one of the best hard punish tools in the game. It's not uncommon for K. Rool players to watch for greedy dash grabs and use the information to punish poor approaches later, simply because the reward for doing so will be substantially higher compared to other characters, all thanks to down smash's power.  


Unlike many of K. Rool's attacks being designed to be difficult to challenge but with high endlag, down smash is reasonably well-defended even after the initial slam is over. It has a small quake hitbox just outside of the body slam's range, much like [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Down tilt|down tilt]]'s. This quake gives sizable frame advantage on hit, but generally not enough for solid followups outside of [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Forward tilt|forward tilt]]. However, if shielded, this quake hitbox doesn't have much [[shieldstun]] at all, leaving K. Rool dangerously open regardless; the quake is -34 on shield, enough for even charged smash attacks to be valid punishes.  
It's also notable to mention that down smash deals significant [[shield damage]], so much so that use after a [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Neutral aerial|neutral aerial]] on shield is a guaranteed shield break. This notably avoids grabs due to the safety of neutral aerial as well, making a [[perfect shield]] or a roll backwards the only way to avoid it, which in high-pressure situations may not be thought about. However, with repeated use, it becomes better to prepare for these options instead, due to the punishable nature of down smash against an experienced player.


Down smash typically isn't used outside of reads and hard punishes, however. This is because the move is quite slow, with Belly Super Armor not switching on until frame 11, and the hitbox coming out frame 22. It has an enormous FAF as well of 64, although this is the middle ground in terms of K. Rool's smash attack FAFs. On top of this, in situations where down smash can be done for free early stock (such as shield breaks or highly punishable moves are used), forward smash angled upwards would KO much earlier. In addition, if Belly Super Armor is damaged, K. Rool becomes very vulnerable. It has 14 active armor frames in total, which is enough for at least some heavy hitting attacks to hit it, especially considering how the move is used. As a result, many [[Shield break|armor break]]s occur from down smash misuse. As a result, in higher level play, down smash tends to be used far less on average.  
Unlike many of K. Rool's attacks being designed to be difficult to challenge but easy to punish, down smash is reasonably well-defended even after the initial slam is over. It has a small quake hitbox just outside of the body slam's range, much like [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Down tilt|down tilt]]'s. This quake gives sizable frame advantage on hit, but generally not enough for solid followups outside of [[King K. Rool (SSBU)/Forward tilt|forward tilt]]. However, if shielded, this quake hitbox doesn't have much [[shieldstun]] at all, leaving K. Rool dangerously open regardless; the quake is -34 on shield, enough for even charged smash attacks to be valid punishes.  


Contrary to popular belief, while K. Rool leaves the ground as soon as Frame 4, he maintains a foot hurtbox extension until frame 7, which makes it deceptively easy to grab him up close. It is even possible - in fact easier - to grab K. Rool out of down smash when he has began the belly flop. This is commonly seen with [[tether grab]]s such as {{SSBU|Samus}}', or large [[pivot grab]]s such as {{SSBU|Greninja}}'s. Command grabs such as, humorously, K. Rool's [[Blunderbuss]] Vacuum, can also force him out of it.
Down smash typically isn't used outside of reads and hard punishes, however. This is because the move is quite slow, with Belly Super Armor not switching on until frame 11, and the hitbox coming out frame 22. It has an enormous FAF of 64, though this is the middle ground in terms of K. Rool's smash attack FAFs. On top of this, in situations where down smash can be done for free early stocks (such as shield breaks or highly punishable moves are used), forward smash angled upwards would KO much earlier, making it strictly suboptimal. Furthermore, if Belly Super Armor is damaged, K. Rool becomes very vulnerable: it has 14 active armor frames in total, which is enough for at least some heavy hitting attacks to hit it, especially considering how the move is used. As a result, many [[Shield break|armor break]]s occur from down smash misuse. As a result, in higher level play, down smash tends to be used far less on average.
 
Contrary to popular belief, while K. Rool leaves the ground as soon as frame 4, he maintains a foot hurtbox extension until frame 7, which makes it deceptively easy to grab him from behind. It is even possible - in fact easier - to grab K. Rool out of down smash when he has actually began the belly flop. This is commonly seen with [[tether grab]]s such as {{SSBU|Samus}}', or large [[pivot grab]]s such as {{SSBU|Greninja}}'s. Command grabs such as, humorously, K. Rool's [[Blunderbuss]] Vacuum, can also force him out of it.


==Hitboxes==
==Hitboxes==

Revision as of 17:29, November 16, 2020

Hitbox visualization showing King K. Rool's down smash.

Overview

A belly flop, emphasising K. Rool's huge weight and armor. King K. Rool's down smash is among his most notorious attacks, for its Belly Super Armor and hurtbox shift specifically making grabs miss. This is because K. Rool's hurtbox shifts above grab hitboxes as soon as frame 4. While it deals less knockback than forward smash, it remains a monumentally powerful attack, ending stocks as early as 80%. Due to this, K. Rool's down smash is largely considered to be one of the best down smashes in the game.

Down smash is one of the most difficult moves to challenge on startup in the game, due to the aforementioned hurtbox shift and Belly Super Armor. Low attacks and regular grabs simply miss, and regular or high reaching attacks tend to hit the armor. The only feasible way to challenge the move is to attack from above, where K. Rool completely lacks any armor. This protection, combined with kill power, makes down smash - long and far - one of the best hard punish tools in the game. It's not uncommon for K. Rool players to watch for greedy dash grabs and use the information to punish poor approaches later, simply because the reward for doing so will be substantially higher compared to other characters, all thanks to down smash's power.

It's also notable to mention that down smash deals significant shield damage, so much so that use after a neutral aerial on shield is a guaranteed shield break. This notably avoids grabs due to the safety of neutral aerial as well, making a perfect shield or a roll backwards the only way to avoid it, which in high-pressure situations may not be thought about. However, with repeated use, it becomes better to prepare for these options instead, due to the punishable nature of down smash against an experienced player.

Unlike many of K. Rool's attacks being designed to be difficult to challenge but easy to punish, down smash is reasonably well-defended even after the initial slam is over. It has a small quake hitbox just outside of the body slam's range, much like down tilt's. This quake gives sizable frame advantage on hit, but generally not enough for solid followups outside of forward tilt. However, if shielded, this quake hitbox doesn't have much shieldstun at all, leaving K. Rool dangerously open regardless; the quake is -34 on shield, enough for even charged smash attacks to be valid punishes.

Down smash typically isn't used outside of reads and hard punishes, however. This is because the move is quite slow, with Belly Super Armor not switching on until frame 11, and the hitbox coming out frame 22. It has an enormous FAF of 64, though this is the middle ground in terms of K. Rool's smash attack FAFs. On top of this, in situations where down smash can be done for free early stocks (such as shield breaks or highly punishable moves are used), forward smash angled upwards would KO much earlier, making it strictly suboptimal. Furthermore, if Belly Super Armor is damaged, K. Rool becomes very vulnerable: it has 14 active armor frames in total, which is enough for at least some heavy hitting attacks to hit it, especially considering how the move is used. As a result, many armor breaks occur from down smash misuse. As a result, in higher level play, down smash tends to be used far less on average.

Contrary to popular belief, while K. Rool leaves the ground as soon as frame 4, he maintains a foot hurtbox extension until frame 7, which makes it deceptively easy to grab him from behind. It is even possible - in fact easier - to grab K. Rool out of down smash when he has actually began the belly flop. This is commonly seen with tether grabs such as Samus', or large pivot grabs such as Greninja's. Command grabs such as, humorously, K. Rool's Blunderbuss Vacuum, can also force him out of it.

Hitboxes

ID Part Rehit rate Damage SD Angle Angle type BK KS FKV Set weight Radius Bone Offset H× SDI× T% Clang Rebound Effect Type G A Sound Direct Hit bits Hit part Blockable Reflectable Absorbable Flinchless No GFX Heedless
Early
0 0 0 18.0% 10.0 Sakurai angle Standard 65 80 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 6.0 top 0.0 7.5 10.5 to -4.5 1.0× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png Normal (effect) Body (type) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
Late
0 0 0 18.0% 10.0 Sakurai angle Standard 65 80 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 6.0 top 0.0 5.0 10.5 to -4.5 1.0× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png Normal (effect) Body (type) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialTrue).png L Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png
Quake
0 0 0 4.0% 0 AngleIcon85.png Standard 80 30 0 HitboxTableIcon(False).png 11.0 top 0.0 9.0 23.5 to -13.5 1.0× 1.0× 0% HitboxTableIcon(Clang).png HitboxTableIcon(Rebound).png Normal (effect) Body (type) HitboxTableIcon(GroundedTrue).png HitboxTableIcon(AerialFalse).png M Kick SpecialsDirect.png All All HitboxTableIcon(Blockable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unreflectable).png HitboxTableIcon(Unabsorbable).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png HitboxTableIcon(False).png

Timing

Charges between 1-2
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Early hit 22
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Quake 24-25
Interruptible 64
Animation length 76
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Belly Super Armor  FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Armour).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png
Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag
Lag time		 ChargeCharge
Charge interval		 Hitbox
Hitbox		 FrameIcon(Vulnerable).png
Vulnerable		 Armor
Armour		 Interruptibility
Interruptible


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