User talk:Zakawer2

Stop edit warring

Take your discussion to the article's talk page instead. Serpent  King 18:01, 10 September 2018 (EDT)

Knock it off. I saw you doing it again while also coming dangerously close to making assumptions of bad faith. MM3 is right, what you are trying to add contains speculative info. Disagree with that? Take it up on the talk page before you do any further editing there. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 17:49, 11 September 2018 (EDT)

...and now the page is protected. Unowninator (talk) 18:01, 11 September 2018 (EDT)

ZSS and Samus as separate characters

While ZSS and Samus have separate awakening battles in WoL, there is nothing suggesting that they are outright separate entities, since gameplay and story segregation is a thing (same for Mario and Doc). I feel that it's probably just best to state factual information - that they have separate awakening battles, without any subjective info as to whether they are separate characters or not. There is no rule stating that separate awakening battle = separate individual. I took it up on the article's talk page.--Darthrai (talk) 13:29, 17 December 2018 (EST)

Only in Brawl were Samus and ZSS the exact same being. This stopped after SSB4 separated the two characters, and Ultimate continues to treat them as fully separate characters since they have their own character numbers, are highly separated from each other in the character selection screen in addition to not only appearing in different places in the mural, but also in "The Ultimate Showdown" commercial as well, so I believe that they are separate characters in the World of Light Adventure Mode. There's nothing suggesting that they are the same character in the game aside from Ridley's reveal trailer and Zero Suit Samus's new Final Smash. Zakawer2 (talk) 16:01, 17 December 2018 (EST)

SW:QDV

Just giving you a reminder of this. Please do not attempt to confront memoryman3. Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 12:41, 26 December 2018 (EST)

Yeah, but can you please place any and all clone-related articles in Ultimate (all Echo Fighters in Ultimate as well as Dr. Mario, Young Link and Pichu's SSBU articles) as well as the clone article under permanent semi-protection? Zakawer2 (talk) 12:43, 26 December 2018 (EST)

Alex isn't the person to ask about that - the admins (such as myself) are. And, at present, we are not placing articles under semi-protection for one user. Aidan, the Festive Rurouni 12:45, 26 December 2018 (EST)

Reminding you of this. Your messages will do nothing at all to resolve the situation and may only escalate it. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 17:30, 27 December 2018 (EST)

Dr. Mario

Regarding this edit, in what way is Dr. Mario a full clone? Many of his attributes are different from Mario's, and his down special and down aerial are different, not to mention the MegaVitamins and the different properties of just about every other move. It'd be more accurate to say he's a semi-clone than a full clone.

I suppose you could say Chrom would also fall under this, due to his up special being different from Roy's. You could also say there's no such thing as a "full clone", as even the closest full Echoes fighters (Daisy and Richter) have a few differences. Dr. Mario is more similar to Isabelle than anyone else in terms of Echo status. Alex95 (talk) 18:17, 28 January 2019 (EST)

All of Dr. Mario's non-attack animations except for his on-screen appearance, idle animation, idle poses, taunts, victory poses and defeated/No Contest animation are identical to Mario's, as are his animations for virtually every single attack except for his down special, down aerial, back throw and side special (his side special is still a cloned move, but has a different animation now). Additionally, his size, proportions, facial expressions and voice clips are identical to Mario's as well, in addition to his weight, falling speed, fast falling speed, gravity, initial dash speed and frame data for most moves. That is enough to warrant calling him a full clone, and is also enough to consider him an Echo Fighter (although he does not have the label) as well.

Isabelle, on the other hand, has different proportions and completely different non-attack animations from Villager, and even her cloned moves have different animations. While her traction is the same, all other attributes are different and she cannot wall jump either. Isabelle also has a completely different neutral attack, up tilt, neutral aerial, up smash, forward smash, down smash, side special and down special, and was developed in the same manner as a unique character as opposed to a clone/Echo Fighter. Zakawer2 (talk) 06:21, 29 January 2019 (EST)

"although he does not have the label" Just this alone is enough. Smash does not consider him a clone, so why should we? You listed more differences than I did. While he is still Mario, he's not the same character as far as the game is concerned. Alex95 (talk) 13:14, 29 January 2019 (EST)