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{{Smasher Infobox
{{Infobox Smasher
| name          = ThunderzReign
| name          = ThundeRzReiGN
| image        =  
| image        = ThundeRz.jpg
| mainssbm      = Donkey Kong
| otherssbm    = Captain Falcon
| mainpm        = Donkey Kong
| mainpm        = Donkey Kong
| crew          = SiliconSmash
| otherpm      = Captain Falcon
| birthdate     =  
| 2ndotherpm    = Ike
| location      = NorCal
| moreotherpm  = {{PM|Ganondorf}}
| mainssbu      = Lucina
| rankingpm    = [[PMRank 2019]]: 2nd
| bestrankingpm = [[PMRank 2017]]: 1st
| bestresultpm  = 1st / 427 at {{Trn|The Even Bigger Balc|g=PM}}
| crew          = R3 Gaming
| former crews  = SiliconSmash
| realname      = Xayya Thomas Thammavongsa
| birthday      = 3
| birthmonth    = 3
| birthyear     = 1998
| location      = Oakland, California
| country      = United States
| country      = United States
}}
}}


'''Strong Bad''' is a [[smasher]] from NorCal mostly known for being one of the top DK mains in Project M along with Poob. He currently plays for SiliconSmash.
'''ThundeRzReiGN''' is a ''[[Project M]]'' {{PM|Donkey Kong}} player with a strong {{PM|Captain Falcon}} secondary from Oakland, California. Due to his performances such as 1st at {{Trn|Low Tier City 4}}, {{Trn|Olympus}}, {{Trn|Rewired 2016}}, {{Trn|The Bigger Balc}}, {{Trn|SuperNova 2}}, and {{Trn|Fair and Balanced}}, he was widely considered to be the best ''Project M'' player in the world throughout 2016 and 2017 and is often regarded as the greatest ''Project M'' [[Project M#v3.6|3.6]] player of all time. The sole developer of Donkey Kong's metagame, he has catalyzed the development of a character [https://smashboards.com/threads/pm-underground-and-reslived-present-project-m-v3-6-tier-list.426830/ many considered among the worst] in the 3.6 patch. He is also considered one of the best Captain Falcon players in the world along with {{Sm|Bubbles|p=New York}} and {{Sm|ORLY}}.


==Notable tournament placings==
ThundeRz also plays {{SSBM|Donkey Kong}} in ''Melee'' and placed 5th and 3rd, in singles and doubles respectively, at Norcal's fourth iteration of the Arcadian.
{{results}}


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On January 7th, 2018, he announced his partial retirement from ''Project M'' noting his frustration with constantly being called out for losing with secondary characters as a large factor.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://www.facebook.com/groups/norcalpm/permalink/1827893850555737/|title=ThundeRzReiGN announcing his partial retirement on the NorCal Project M group.}}</ref> Initially, he continued to participate in locals but was no longer willing to go to major tournaments or be qualified for any future PMRank. However, despite his initial claims of not entering future majors, he ended up attending and winning {{Trn|The Even Bigger Balc}}, the largest ''Project M'' tournament of all time. He announced at the beginning of 2019 that he would return to entering majors regularly for the rest of the year.
 
ThundeRzReiGN is currently ranked 1st on the [[NorCal Power Rankings|NorCal Project M Power Rankings]] and 2nd on [[PMRank 2019]].
 
==Playing style==
ThundeRzReiGN's playstyle is centered around his extensive punish game, alongside his patient, bait-and-punish style neutral. Augmented by his ability to switch between aggressive and defensive play, it enables him to maneuver around opponents and [[bait]] out poor approaches or over-extensions. His accurate usage of {{PM|Donkey Kong}}'s combo starters (most notably his cargo up-throw) and follow-ups enable him to [[zero-to-death]] opponents for making a mistake. He couples this ability with an unmatched mastery and understanding of Donkey Kong's capabilities, allowing him to determine the most optimal option to use at any given time.
 
==Tournament placings==
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''===
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Tournament!!Date!!1v1 placement!!2v2 placement!!Partner
|-
|[[Pizza Pirate Power Play #1]]||September 3rd, 2016||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[R3 The Dream 7]]||December 10th, 2016||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/norcal-arcadian-4/event/melee-singles/brackets/126229 Norcal Arcadian #4]||March 18th, 2017||5th||3rd||{{Sm|Wavebringer}}
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/norcal-arcadian-5/event/melee-singles/brackets/219972 Norcal Arcadian #5]||March 10th, 2018||9th||9th||{{Sm|Ivayne}}
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/a-smash-miracle-at-river-park/event/smash-melee/brackets/445331/798175 A Smash Miracle at River Park]||December 15th, 2018||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|{{Trn|Poi Poundaz 2|g=SSBM}}||January 12th, 2019||4th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/norcal-arcadian-6-1/event/melee-singles/brackets/585576/976251 NorCal Arcadian 6]||May 11th, 2019||4th||13th||{{Sm|Megaman}}
|-
|{{Trn|FanimeCon 2019|g=SSBM}}||May 24th-27th, 2019||4th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/weds-night-fights-x-oakland-2019-fall-season-3-6/event/melee/brackets/713068/1153687 Weds Night Fights x Oakland 2019 Fall Season 3.6]||December 11th-12th, 2019||5th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|}
 
===''[[Project M]]''===
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Tournament!!Date!!1v1 placement!!2v2 placement!!Partner
|-
|[[NorCal Regionals 2015]]||April 3rd-5th, 2015||2nd||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[EVO 2015]]||July 17th-19th, 2015||17th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[Paragon Los Angeles 2015]]||September 5th-6th, 2015||17th||33rd||{{Sm|$heen}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascensionsingles Ascension 11/7/15]||November 7th, 2015||2nd||2nd||{{Sm|NegativeZero}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension2singles Ascension 1/16/16]||January 16th, 2016||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[FinalBOSS]]||January 19th, 2016||2nd||5th||{{Sm|Fridgebits}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension3singles Ascension 2/13/16]||February 13th, 2016||1st||1st||{{Sm|Matasd}}
|-
|[http://ssbs.challonge.com/ssbs12PM1 Super South Bay Sundays 12]||February 21st, 2016||1st||1st||{{Sm|prem}}
|-
|[[Shuffle VIII]]||March 12th-13th, 2016||7th||2nd||{{Sm|Red X}}
|-
|[https://norcalpm.challonge.com/dreamvaniteabeta R3 The Dream 1]||March 26th, 2016||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[https://norcalpm.challonge.com/thedream2 R3 The Dream 2]||April 9th, 2016||1st||1st||{{Sm|Chubs}}
|-
|[[SuperNova]]||April 16th, 2016||25th||17th||Red X
|-
|[[NEW FISH]]||May 7th, 2016||1st||1st||{{Sm|Mask}}
|-
|[https://norcalpm.challonge.com/thedream3pm R3 The Dream 3]||May 14th, 2016||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[The Big Balc]]||May 27th-29th, 2016||5th||7th||Red X
|-
|[[Smash 'N' Splash 2]]||June 11th-12th, 2016||4th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[Low Tier City 4]]||June 18th-19th, 2016||1st||13th||Red X
|-
|[http://challonge.com/satb54pms Smash @ the Balcony 54]||July 2nd, 2016||1st||4th||Chubs
|-
|[https://norcalpm.challonge.com/R3dream5 R3 The Dream 5]||July 9th, 2016||1st||1st||prem
|-
|[http://norcalpm.challonge.com/bobapm3 The Tea Zone 3]||July 13th, 2016||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[EVO 2016]]||July 15th-17th, 2016||7th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[Clutch City Clash]]||August 6th-7th, 2016||2nd||1st||{{Sm|Sosa}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension10singles Ascension 8/13/16]||August 13th, 2016||&mdash;||1st||NegativeZero
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension11singles Ascension 8/27/16]||August 27th, 2016||&mdash;||1st||{{Sm|Douglas}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension12singles Ascension 9/24/16]||September 24th, 2016||1st||2nd||NegativeZero
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension13singles Ascension 10/1/16]||October 1st, 2016||1st||3rd||prem
|-
|[[Salty Juan's 3]]||October 8th-9th, 2016||1st||1st||Sosa
|-
|[[Olympus]]||October 28th-30th, 2016||1st||13th||{{Sm|XYK}}
|-
|[[Rewired 2016]]||November 19th-21st, 2016||1st||1st||{{Sm|Luck}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension14singles Ascension 11/26/16]||November 26th, 2016||1st||3rd||prem
|-
|[https://norcalpm.challonge.com/thedream7 R3 The Dream 7]||December 10th, 2016||1st||1st||NegativeZero
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension15singles Ascension 12/17/16]||December 17th, 2016||&mdash;||1st||{{Sm|Boringman}}
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/brocal-s-gym-bulking-season/event/project-m-singles/brackets/83806 BroCal's Gym: Bulking Season]||January 8th, 2017||3rd||1st||{{Sm|Blank}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension16singles Ascension 1/14/17]||January 14th, 2017||1st||3rd||{{Sm|Applesauce}}
|-
|[[Cashed Out]]||January 21st, 2017||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension17singles Ascension 2/11/17]||February 11th, 2017||1st||1st||{{Sm|Pikmon}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension18singles Ascension 3/11/17]||March 11th, 2017||1st||2nd||{{Sm|Tuna}}
|-
|[[Frozen Phoenix 2017]]||March 25th-26th, 2017||1st||1st||{{Sm|Fearless}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension19singles Ascension 4/15/17]||April 15th, 2017||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/super-smashed-bros/event/project-m-singles/brackets/67882 Super Smashed Bros]||April 29th, 2017||1st||1st||{{Sm|The Doctor}}
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/community-gaming-celebration-2017/event/project-m-singles/brackets/132415 CGC 2017]||May 6th-7th, 2017||1st||3rd||{{Sm|Yung Quaff}}
|-
|[http://pmcucd.challonge.com/ascension20singles Ascension 5/13/17]||May 13th, 2017||1st||1st||The Doctor
|-
|[[The Bigger Balc]]||May 27th-28th, 2017||1st||2nd||Boringman
|-
|[[Smashadelphia 2017]]||June 23rd-25th, 2017||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[Blacklisted 3]]||July 1st-2nd, 2017||3rd||4th||Pikmon
|-
|[[SuperNova 2]]||July 29th-30th, 2017||1st||4th||{{Sm|Malachi}}
|-
|[[Low Tier City 5]]||August 5th-6th, 2017||2nd||4th||{{Sm|Twisty}}
|-
|[https://start.gg/tournament/smashed-bros-double-shot-1/events Smashed Bros' Double Shot]||August 19th, 2017||1st||1st||{{Sm|Jose V}}
|-
|[[Balcy's Palace at the Westgate]]||September 9th-10th, 2017||1st||2nd||{{Sm|Sneez}}
|-
|[[Showdown: Battle Royale 2]]||September 23rd-24th, 2017||2nd||5th||{{Sm|Samn}}
|-
|[[Salty Juan's 4: Southwest Battle Royale]]||October 14th-15th, 2017||3rd||2nd||Sosa
|-
|[[Clutch City Clash 2]]||October 28th-29th, 2017||3rd||1st||Sosa
|-
|[http://norcalpm.challonge.com/AFKgg AFKgg Project M Monthly]||November 17th, 2017||9th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[[Fair and Balanced]]||November 18th, 2017||1st||1st||Boringman
|-
|[[Poi Poundaz]]||January 6th, 2018||5th||2nd||{{Sm|Mentor}}
|-
|{{Trn|Cashed Out: Forbidden Fight Club|g=PM}}||January 19th, 2018||7th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|{{Trn|The Even Bigger Balc|g=PM}}||July 6th-8th, 2018||1st||2nd||Boringman
|-
|{{Trn|Fair and Balanced 2|g=PM}}||October 6th-7th, 2018||1st||1st||Boringman
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/a-smash-miracle-at-river-park/event/smash-pm/brackets/445333/798177 A Smash Miracle at River Park]||December 15th, 2018||2nd||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|{{Trn|Poi Poundaz 2|g=PM}}||January 12th, 2019||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|{{Trn|Neon Genesix Evangelion|g=PM}}||February 1st, 2019||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/super-south-bay-sunday-38/event/project-m-singles/brackets/570383/956070 Super South Bay Sunday #38]||April 28th, 2019||1st||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|{{Trn|Smash 'N' Splash 5|g=PM}}||May 31st-June 2nd, 2019||3rd||2nd||Boringman
|-
|{{Trn|Blacklisted 5|g=PM}}||June 22nd-23rd, 2019||2nd||13th||Pikmon
|-
|{{Trn|Low Tier City 7|g=PM}}||July 12th-14th, 2019||1st||4th||{{Sm|Sothe}}
|-
|{{Trn|The Encore|g=PM}}||August 16th-18th, 2019||1st||1st||{{Sm|Arsenals}}
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/ascension-3-19-22/event/project-singles Ascension 3/19/22]||March 19th, 2022||2nd||1st||The Doctor
|-
|{{Trn|The Project M Theatre|g=PM}}||March 26th-27th, 2022||2nd||4th||Fearless
|}
 
===''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''===
{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
!Tournament!!Date!!1v1 placement!!2v2 placement!!Partner
|-
|[https://www.start.gg/tournament/super-south-bay-sunday-38/event/ultimate-singles/brackets/570385/956072 Super South Bay Sunday #38]||April 28th, 2019||5th||&mdash;||&mdash;
|-
|{{Trn|FanimeCon 2019|g=SSBU}}||May 24th-27th, 2019||33rd||&mdash;||&mdash;
|}
 
==External links==
*[https://twitter.com/ThundeRzReiGN_ Twitter account]
*{{YouTube|_QuFdUa8g0A|Who the Hell Is...ThundeRzReiGN?}}
 
==References==
{{reflist}}


[[Category:Northern California smashers]]
[[Category:Northern California smashers]]
[[Category:California smashers]]
[[Category:Donkey Kong players (PM)]]
[[Category:Donkey Kong professionals (PM)]]
[[Category:Captain Falcon players (PM)]]
[[Category:VIP players]]
[[Category:Back Room members]]

Latest revision as of 13:07, February 19, 2024

ThundeRzReiGN
ThundeRz.jpg
Character info
Melee main Donkey Kong
Other Melee character Captain Falcon
Ultimate main Lucina
Project M main Donkey Kong
Other Project M characters Captain Falcon, Ike, Ganondorf
Team info
Crew(s) R3 Gaming
Former crews SiliconSmash
Rankings and results info
Most recent ranking Project M PMRank 2019: 2nd
Best historical ranking Project M PMRank 2017: 1st
Best tournament result Project M 1st / 427 at The Even Bigger Balc
Personal and other info
Real name Xayya Thomas Thammavongsa
Birth date (age 26)
Location Oakland, California United States

ThundeRzReiGN is a Project M Donkey Kong player with a strong Captain Falcon secondary from Oakland, California. Due to his performances such as 1st at Low Tier City 4, Olympus, Rewired 2016, The Bigger Balc, SuperNova 2, and Fair and Balanced, he was widely considered to be the best Project M player in the world throughout 2016 and 2017 and is often regarded as the greatest Project M 3.6 player of all time. The sole developer of Donkey Kong's metagame, he has catalyzed the development of a character many considered among the worst in the 3.6 patch. He is also considered one of the best Captain Falcon players in the world along with Bubbles and ORLY.

ThundeRz also plays Donkey Kong in Melee and placed 5th and 3rd, in singles and doubles respectively, at Norcal's fourth iteration of the Arcadian.

On January 7th, 2018, he announced his partial retirement from Project M noting his frustration with constantly being called out for losing with secondary characters as a large factor.[1] Initially, he continued to participate in locals but was no longer willing to go to major tournaments or be qualified for any future PMRank. However, despite his initial claims of not entering future majors, he ended up attending and winning The Even Bigger Balc, the largest Project M tournament of all time. He announced at the beginning of 2019 that he would return to entering majors regularly for the rest of the year.

ThundeRzReiGN is currently ranked 1st on the NorCal Project M Power Rankings and 2nd on PMRank 2019.

Playing style[edit]

ThundeRzReiGN's playstyle is centered around his extensive punish game, alongside his patient, bait-and-punish style neutral. Augmented by his ability to switch between aggressive and defensive play, it enables him to maneuver around opponents and bait out poor approaches or over-extensions. His accurate usage of Donkey Kong's combo starters (most notably his cargo up-throw) and follow-ups enable him to zero-to-death opponents for making a mistake. He couples this ability with an unmatched mastery and understanding of Donkey Kong's capabilities, allowing him to determine the most optimal option to use at any given time.

Tournament placings[edit]

Super Smash Bros. Melee[edit]

Tournament Date 1v1 placement 2v2 placement Partner
Pizza Pirate Power Play #1 September 3rd, 2016 1st — —
R3 The Dream 7 December 10th, 2016 1st — —
Norcal Arcadian #4 March 18th, 2017 5th 3rd Wavebringer
Norcal Arcadian #5 March 10th, 2018 9th 9th Ivayne
A Smash Miracle at River Park December 15th, 2018 1st — —
Poi Poundaz 2 January 12th, 2019 4th — —
NorCal Arcadian 6 May 11th, 2019 4th 13th Megaman
FanimeCon 2019 May 24th-27th, 2019 4th — —
Weds Night Fights x Oakland 2019 Fall Season 3.6 December 11th-12th, 2019 5th — —

Project M[edit]

Tournament Date 1v1 placement 2v2 placement Partner
NorCal Regionals 2015 April 3rd-5th, 2015 2nd — —
EVO 2015 July 17th-19th, 2015 17th — —
Paragon Los Angeles 2015 September 5th-6th, 2015 17th 33rd $heen
Ascension 11/7/15 November 7th, 2015 2nd 2nd NegativeZero
Ascension 1/16/16 January 16th, 2016 1st — —
FinalBOSS January 19th, 2016 2nd 5th Fridgebits
Ascension 2/13/16 February 13th, 2016 1st 1st Matasd
Super South Bay Sundays 12 February 21st, 2016 1st 1st prem
Shuffle VIII March 12th-13th, 2016 7th 2nd Red X
R3 The Dream 1 March 26th, 2016 1st — —
R3 The Dream 2 April 9th, 2016 1st 1st Chubs
SuperNova April 16th, 2016 25th 17th Red X
NEW FISH May 7th, 2016 1st 1st Mask
R3 The Dream 3 May 14th, 2016 1st — —
The Big Balc May 27th-29th, 2016 5th 7th Red X
Smash 'N' Splash 2 June 11th-12th, 2016 4th — —
Low Tier City 4 June 18th-19th, 2016 1st 13th Red X
Smash @ the Balcony 54 July 2nd, 2016 1st 4th Chubs
R3 The Dream 5 July 9th, 2016 1st 1st prem
The Tea Zone 3 July 13th, 2016 1st — —
EVO 2016 July 15th-17th, 2016 7th — —
Clutch City Clash August 6th-7th, 2016 2nd 1st Sosa
Ascension 8/13/16 August 13th, 2016 — 1st NegativeZero
Ascension 8/27/16 August 27th, 2016 — 1st Douglas
Ascension 9/24/16 September 24th, 2016 1st 2nd NegativeZero
Ascension 10/1/16 October 1st, 2016 1st 3rd prem
Salty Juan's 3 October 8th-9th, 2016 1st 1st Sosa
Olympus October 28th-30th, 2016 1st 13th XYK
Rewired 2016 November 19th-21st, 2016 1st 1st Luck
Ascension 11/26/16 November 26th, 2016 1st 3rd prem
R3 The Dream 7 December 10th, 2016 1st 1st NegativeZero
Ascension 12/17/16 December 17th, 2016 — 1st Boringman
BroCal's Gym: Bulking Season January 8th, 2017 3rd 1st Blank
Ascension 1/14/17 January 14th, 2017 1st 3rd Applesauce
Cashed Out January 21st, 2017 1st — —
Ascension 2/11/17 February 11th, 2017 1st 1st Pikmon
Ascension 3/11/17 March 11th, 2017 1st 2nd Tuna
Frozen Phoenix 2017 March 25th-26th, 2017 1st 1st Fearless
Ascension 4/15/17 April 15th, 2017 1st — —
Super Smashed Bros April 29th, 2017 1st 1st The Doctor
CGC 2017 May 6th-7th, 2017 1st 3rd Yung Quaff
Ascension 5/13/17 May 13th, 2017 1st 1st The Doctor
The Bigger Balc May 27th-28th, 2017 1st 2nd Boringman
Smashadelphia 2017 June 23rd-25th, 2017 1st — —
Blacklisted 3 July 1st-2nd, 2017 3rd 4th Pikmon
SuperNova 2 July 29th-30th, 2017 1st 4th Malachi
Low Tier City 5 August 5th-6th, 2017 2nd 4th Twisty
Smashed Bros' Double Shot August 19th, 2017 1st 1st Jose V
Balcy's Palace at the Westgate September 9th-10th, 2017 1st 2nd Sneez
Showdown: Battle Royale 2 September 23rd-24th, 2017 2nd 5th Samn
Salty Juan's 4: Southwest Battle Royale October 14th-15th, 2017 3rd 2nd Sosa
Clutch City Clash 2 October 28th-29th, 2017 3rd 1st Sosa
AFKgg Project M Monthly November 17th, 2017 9th — —
Fair and Balanced November 18th, 2017 1st 1st Boringman
Poi Poundaz January 6th, 2018 5th 2nd Mentor
Cashed Out: Forbidden Fight Club January 19th, 2018 7th — —
The Even Bigger Balc July 6th-8th, 2018 1st 2nd Boringman
Fair and Balanced 2 October 6th-7th, 2018 1st 1st Boringman
A Smash Miracle at River Park December 15th, 2018 2nd — —
Poi Poundaz 2 January 12th, 2019 1st — —
Neon Genesix Evangelion February 1st, 2019 1st — —
Super South Bay Sunday #38 April 28th, 2019 1st — —
Smash 'N' Splash 5 May 31st-June 2nd, 2019 3rd 2nd Boringman
Blacklisted 5 June 22nd-23rd, 2019 2nd 13th Pikmon
Low Tier City 7 July 12th-14th, 2019 1st 4th Sothe
The Encore August 16th-18th, 2019 1st 1st Arsenals
Ascension 3/19/22 March 19th, 2022 2nd 1st The Doctor
The Project M Theatre March 26th-27th, 2022 2nd 4th Fearless

Super Smash Bros. Ultimate[edit]

Tournament Date 1v1 placement 2v2 placement Partner
Super South Bay Sunday #38 April 28th, 2019 5th — —
FanimeCon 2019 May 24th-27th, 2019 33rd — —

External links[edit]

References[edit]

  1. ^ ThundeRzReiGN announcing his partial retirement on the NorCal Project M group..
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