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:::I understand, but I still have my suspicions. Problem is my gut feelings about users are typically right... [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:52, 1 January 2016 (EST) | :::I understand, but I still have my suspicions. Problem is my gut feelings about users are typically right... [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:52, 1 January 2016 (EST) | ||
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....I'm him <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.192.134.93|70.192.134.93]] ([[User talk:70.192.134.93|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.192.134.93|contribs]]) 16:53, January 1, | ....I'm him <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.192.134.93|70.192.134.93]] ([[User talk:70.192.134.93|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.192.134.93|contribs]]) 16:53, January 1, 2016</small> | ||
:Well, okay then. | :Well, okay then. | ||
:Also, just because you haven't made a signature doesn't mean you don't have one. You still have to put four tildes (~) to sign. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 16:55, 1 January 2016 (EST) | :Also, just because you haven't made a signature doesn't mean you don't have one. You still have to put four tildes (~) to sign. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 16:55, 1 January 2016 (EST) | ||
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:Then you'll have to wait for someone else to add them if they ever decide to, and they will likely not use your ideas for them. (Thanks for signing though) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 17:08, 1 January 2016 (EST) | :Then you'll have to wait for someone else to add them if they ever decide to, and they will likely not use your ideas for them. (Thanks for signing though) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 17:08, 1 January 2016 (EST) | ||
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. Why don't u put in SpongeBob, Patrick ,n squid ward mii sowordfighter costume? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.192.134.93|70.192.134.93]] ([[User talk:70.192.134.93|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.192.134.93|contribs]]) 17:12, January 1, | . Why don't u put in SpongeBob, Patrick ,n squid ward mii sowordfighter costume? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.192.134.93|70.192.134.93]] ([[User talk:70.192.134.93|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.192.134.93|contribs]]) 17:12, January 1, 2016</small> | ||
:Aaaand you didn't sign again -.- | :Aaaand you didn't sign again -.- | ||
:I don't want to add them, because I personally don't like SpongeBob and would rather use my userspace editing privilege to add someone that was actually my idea and that I actually like as a concept as a fighter in Smash. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 17:13, 1 January 2016 (EST) | :I don't want to add them, because I personally don't like SpongeBob and would rather use my userspace editing privilege to add someone that was actually my idea and that I actually like as a concept as a fighter in Smash. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 17:13, 1 January 2016 (EST) | ||
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. Wit about RecklesWiimote Guy n Retro Mario n Pink Rabbit? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.192.134.93|70.192.134.93]] ([[User talk:70.192.134.93|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.192.134.93|contribs]]) 17:19, January 1, | . Wit about RecklesWiimote Guy n Retro Mario n Pink Rabbit? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.192.134.93|70.192.134.93]] ([[User talk:70.192.134.93|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.192.134.93|contribs]]) 17:19, January 1, 2016</small> | ||
:I liked their potential. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 17:20, 1 January 2016 (EST) | :I liked their potential. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 17:20, 1 January 2016 (EST) | ||
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Do you have one? -- [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou was here :v'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 22:12, 25 January 2016 (EST) | Do you have one? -- [[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou was here :v'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 22:12, 25 January 2016 (EST) | ||
:No <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 22:23, 25 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::Because you're a cool guy, I consider you as a friend most of the time. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] <font color="Black">'''The 70's called. They said'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou was here :v'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 22:36, 25 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::Thanks. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 12:38, 26 January 2016 (EST) | |||
== About the move == | |||
I understand your enthusiasm about it, but the fact that the tag keeps getting removed and re-added is becoming a form of edit warring. Serpent, Miles, and I are all getting tired of the hammer debate. Can you at least wait a month or two before doing it again? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:39, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:There's no rule saying I have to - it's a brand new discussion, so removing the tag before it can be discussed is not fair (and I'm pretty sure goes against a policy). If you don't want to be involved, don't get involved, but there's no reason to remove the tag. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 14:41, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::It does not count as a new discussion if you re-added the tag exactly a DAY after it's removed. It doesn't work like that, so there's every reason to remove the tag. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:44, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::Stop removing it before this actually becomes an edit war. | |||
:::It shouldn't have been removed in the first place, and any new discussion can easily have new results. If it becomes a problem besides you, SK, and Miles unfairly removing the tag before a consensus can be reached, then I will remove it. Right now, the biggest problem is the three of you not being okay with the discussion getting a solution. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 14:46, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::::We can get a solution later. Right now, you're making this an issue by constantly re-adding it and it's stressing all of us out because it's seeing no end. The reason we wait before re-adding a suggestion is so we have enough time to shed a new light on it. Re-adding it right after it's removed does not give us that luxury and only stresses us out. I'm just trying to follow the rules here, but you're making it an issue right now. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:47, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::::Give me any rule that says 1) discussions cannot be reopened until a certain amount of time has passed or 2) discussion can be ended if an admin thinks it's stupid and I will admit that you are right and I am wrong. However, I am positive neither of those rules exist, so that puts you as much in the wrong as I am (and I will agree I overreacted there). <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 14:51, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::::::I might've overreacted a bit too, and I'm not saying either of those are rules, I'm just saying we need time before re-opening a discussion, because it gives us time to think about the idea of the move and maybe change our opinions later. It's not that we thought it was stupid, it's that it seemed to have no end, so we ended it to give some time for everybody to think about it first. I think our current policy on things like this when it comes to failing due to insufficient consensus is more than fair because of the fact that it's not like we can never suggest it again, but re-adding it right after it's removed and going against people's wishes when they ask not to re-add it, especially when it's an admin who all they're trying to do is prevent problems, it only creates issues. That's what I mean when I say I'm just following the rules. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:55, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
(reset indent) Except that's not a policy - that is an arbitrary decision made by SK, Nyargle, and Miles. It has not been approved as a policy or a guideline and should not be treated as such. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 14:57, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:Yes, admins are not kings, but if THEY say it's a problem, especially when it's all three active admins, it's probably a problem. I don't want to see any action being taken on either of us, which is why I'm talking to you right here and now. If you want to re-open the discussion in the future, that's fine. I'm just asking that you give us some time to cool off from it first before doing it again. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:59, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::You literally just said "admins are not kings but if they all say something is true then it has to be". We also had at least two normal users who disagreed (me and Aardvarkian) - why are Miles, SK, and Nyargle's opinion more important? 3:2 is not consensus - that's the entire problem with the conversation on Hammer. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 15:00, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::Also I feel a pretty big "holier than thou" attitude about you talking to me here and now when I specifically asked mid-edit war that you did and you got SK's permission to ignore me instead of doing it. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 15:02, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::::That's not what I meant. I'm saying all three admins are having issues with it. Remember: admins keep the peace on the wiki. They're saying that this is blowing out of proportion (the edit war we just had proves that it is). Yes, it's not consensus, but it's the ultimate outcome. And no, I am not "holier than thou" as you say, I did not get Serpent's "permission", it's what we both agreed upon. The tag IS becoming a form of edit warring. I'm just trying to follow the rules, not trying to act like I'm better than everybody. I'm honestly rather offended by that and I have no idea where you got that from. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:04, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::::(edit conflict) But you're not following any rules. You're blindly following the admin's opinions. Besides the edit war (which I'm still pretty sure my reverts were pretty legit, but I'm not going to win that), there was no rule against what I did. The removal of the tag because there was no consensus is not appropriate because there is no rule to back it up and users were still continuing the discussion, and reopening the discussion as a new discussion was also perfectly in line with all the rules. You aren't "following the rules", so stop saying that you are. (You aren't breaking them either, besides, again, the edit war, just to be clear.) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 15:10, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
"I'm not happy with the results of the previous discussion so I'm opening up a brand new one." is not a valid reason to re-open a closed debate the next day. 3 different admins had closed the discussion at various points due to lack of consensus in favor of the move, only for you to keep arguing. I encourage you to reconsider your vehemence on this point, Nutty, and for both you and DF to keep personal feelings out of it. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:05, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:It's exactly why any new discussion would be open? No certain time is required to pass before a discussion can be reopened. And the tag had been added back by a user who is, according to an actual policy, just as important as an admin, with support from another user who's just as important as an admin. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 15:10, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::Immediately re-opening discussion the next day represents little more than a desire to keep arguing. Admins aren't kings, but part of our role is to moderate discussion; if all of the involved moderators in a discussion come to the same conclusion about its results, you should understand that they did so for a reason. I don't understand why you think the result will be any different the next day. (And according to policy, you were violating 1RV repeatedly by re-adding the tag, so don't play the policy-lawyering card.) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:15, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::It was a 2:3 in favor of keeping the tag off, and going by the policy of admins are not any more important than users, that's not good enough to prove it's wrong. If it had been 3 normal users who agree it should be removed vs. 2 who agree it shouldn't without any admins involved, you probably would agree (obviously I'm not inside your head but whatever). | |||
:::I'm not looking at 1RV right now and have admitted that I was in the wrong there. Throwing my mistakes that I've admitted to back in my face to try to get out of another policy that goes against you really makes you look immature. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 15:21, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::::Let me present it this way. Page moves like that require a discussion to reach consensus. Admins, who are responsible for managing discussions, determined it didn't have sufficient consensus. "Admins aren't more important than users" means we don't count for "extra points" in discussions, and we're not inherently "always right"; however, we do have a job to do in managing discussions. Disagreeing with a resolution is one thing, but repeatedly and vehemently arguing every time an admin tries to resolve the situation is frustrating. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:06, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
Looking at this from the perspective of someone who wasn't involved, I see a highly fragmented move discussion that went nowhere and was agreed to be going nowhere, so it was closed and the status quo was upheld. Do you really think that opening it back up immediately would do anything but repeat the exact same results, therefore wasting everyone's time? Calling it a "new discussion" isn't magically going to change people's opinion on the issue. No one's going to like the results of every single discussion we have; don't be the one guy that can't accept defeat and move on. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Sphere 16:14, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:I have a hard time believing that effectively favoring one side is fair at all, much less the fairest way to handle a discussion that is not reaching consensus. What's the difference between just going through with the move when there's no consensus vs. not moving it at all besides less effort? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 16:21, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::To keep a discussion going that long after it has had split consensus since it began makes no sense. It was very clear that we were not going reach an actual consensus (by the way, no, being in support by 1 vote is not considered a consensus, and a democratic approach in this situation when the discussion did not open as such would be inappropriate; not to mention, if you recall, we were 7-6 with neutral-supports. If we counted the neutral-supports separate, we'd be evenly tied at 6-6). Rather than let the discussion go nowhere even more, the decision was made by all 3 active admins to end it, and in that decision, it makes a lot more sense to keep the page as is than to go through with the move. I also have difficulty accepting your claims that we are acting on bias, given that directly after the decision to close discussion, you proceeded to open a new discussion, ergo dissatisfaction with the result of the previous discussion, AKA bias. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:34, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::I'm not saying you're biased, I'm saying that your solution favors one side. That would be true no matter what side you were on - the side of opposition gets a better result than the side of support. | |||
:::Also, my logic of reopening it was not that I wanted it to end on my side - if the discussion had ended with opposition winning by more votes, then I would be fine. I don't like the opposition, for lack of a better term getting a win they did not earn. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 21:21, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::::But that was the reason for opening a new discussion in the first place, dissatisfaction with the result of the last... If you had been in oppose, would you have honestly still reopened discussion? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:26, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:::::I'm a little blinded by hindsight here, but I'd like to think yes, given the same unfair circumstance but in my favor, I still would've spoken up. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 21:29, 27 January 2016 (EST) | |||
==Celestial Valley== | |||
I was going to add this stage (and maybe a character) on to your SSBD project. But i'm not a good editor ...so IDK what to do... [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 18:50, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:It's not hard, so I can probably help you through it. | |||
:Assuming the first thing you want to do is Celestial Valley, just create [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite/Celestial Valley]] and fill it in like an actual stage page (i.e. [[Gerudo Valley]]) but replacing any mention of SSB4 with SSBD, and obviously making it describe Celestial Valley instead of Gerudo Valley. | |||
:If you can't figure out the stuff like the stage table, Aidan, DF, and I are usually online enough to get that set for you, so you don't have to worry about it :P | |||
:Besides that, as long as you don't get too caught up in making edits to Project Dream and forget the actual goal of the wiki, just kind of do whatever you want! :P <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 19:00, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
I can do most of the page... But there's one major problem - I'm using a PS4 - That has a browser that can't upload or download images - stupid, I know >_< ... So what do you want me to do? | |||
:(2 questions also, is The Arena a good song and is there a new Screen KO animation? Every game has a different one) [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 19:40, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
::I can help with pictures then. Just go ahead and make the page. | |||
::It's up to you what songs you choose - I'd say it works though - and not that we've come up with yet. You can, though. (Idk how you'd list it though :P) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 19:54, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
I tested it and the infobox refuses to work - http://www.ssbwiki.com/User:KirbysCrazyAppetite/Celestial_Valley [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 20:19, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:Fixed. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 20:22, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
BTW, if your curious of what 100% complete main menu is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZgayQuJ1Ec [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 20:30, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
== 40 KB! == | |||
You may wanna archive. [[User:Penro|Penro, the]] [[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]][[User talk:Penro|and]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] main. 21:22, 28 January 2016 (EST) | |||
:Seriously? Already? | |||
:Mkay. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 21:27, 28 January 2016 (EST) |
Latest revision as of 09:13, May 1, 2023
Two things
- This
- Is that pic of Lorule Castle a modded Hyrule Castle in PM, by any chance?
Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 15:44, 31 December 2015 (EST)
- On it.
- Photoshopped, not modded. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:45, 31 December 2015 (EST)
Two things (again)
- How did that extra pixel get added?
- When fixing the image, I think I might've accidentally darkened it a little...would you mind?
Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 17:59, 31 December 2015 (EST)
- I honestly don't see any pixels so idk.
- On it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:59, 31 December 2015 (EST)
- The eyes of someone with OCD notice much more than those without. Aidan, the Jolly Space Warrior 18:04, 31 December 2015 (EST)
That IP
Here's the thing. Their behavior reminds me of this previous offender of trolling. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2016 (EST)
- The more I compare the two, the more uncanny the resemblances are. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:51, 1 January 2016 (EST)
- SW:AGF still applies. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:51, 1 January 2016 (EST)
- I understand, but I still have my suspicions. Problem is my gut feelings about users are typically right... Disaster Flare (talk) 16:52, 1 January 2016 (EST)
- SW:AGF still applies. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:51, 1 January 2016 (EST)
.... ....I'm him —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.134.93 (talk • contribs) 16:53, January 1, 2016
- Well, okay then.
- Also, just because you haven't made a signature doesn't mean you don't have one. You still have to put four tildes (~) to sign. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:55, 1 January 2016 (EST)
. . It wold be cool if spongebob was playable n Patrick was Ann assist trophy in subdued however. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.134.93 (talk • contribs) 16:58, January 1, 2016
- Please sign your comments. Also, if you make an account you can add them :) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:59, 1 January 2016 (EST)
. .i don't really feel like making an account. 70.192.134.93 17:06, 1 January 2016 (EST)
- Then you'll have to wait for someone else to add them if they ever decide to, and they will likely not use your ideas for them. (Thanks for signing though) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:08, 1 January 2016 (EST)
. . Why don't u put in SpongeBob, Patrick ,n squid ward mii sowordfighter costume? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.134.93 (talk • contribs) 17:12, January 1, 2016
- Aaaand you didn't sign again -.-
- I don't want to add them, because I personally don't like SpongeBob and would rather use my userspace editing privilege to add someone that was actually my idea and that I actually like as a concept as a fighter in Smash. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:13, 1 January 2016 (EST)
. . Wit about RecklesWiimote Guy n Retro Mario n Pink Rabbit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.192.134.93 (talk • contribs) 17:19, January 1, 2016
- I liked their potential. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:20, 1 January 2016 (EST)
Ay
I tried to put my own character heads (Cyan Mewtwo, Purple Marth and White Ganon). Not only did it not work, it drained the color of the page. Do you know what I did wrong? Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 18:19, 1 January 2016 (EST)
- Replace it with this:
li#pt-userpage { background: url(/images/thumb/0/08/GanondorfHeadWhiteSSB4-U.png/50px-GanondorfHeadWhiteSSB4-U.png) right no-repeat, url(/images/thumb/e/ed/MewtwoHeadCyanSSB4-U.png/50px-MewtwoHeadCyanSSB4-U.png) center no-repeat, url(/images/thumb/8/8d/MarthHeadPurpleSSB4-U.png/50px-MarthHeadPurpleSSB4-U.png) left no-repeat; padding:0 0 40px 100px; }
- That'll fix it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:06, 1 January 2016 (EST)
Question
If I were to add a series symbol image for SSBD and have you make it partially transparent, would there be a way to leave the black outlines be? Because having the whole thing without the outlines looks weird... Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:22, 5 January 2016 (EST)
- I'd have to see it to tell you. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:36, 5 January 2016 (EST)
- [1] Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:52, 5 January 2016 (EST)
- I have an idea for it. Hold on. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:59, 5 January 2016 (EST)
- File:AidanSeriesSymbol.png ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 23:01, 5 January 2016 (EST)
- ...Oh, shit, that looks even better. I'm just gonna go mark this as a VUI and save it for a potential newcomer... Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 23:06, 5 January 2016 (EST)
- [1] Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:52, 5 January 2016 (EST)
I changed it up a bit. Putting this here so you're aware, even if it disappears from the RC. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 09:23, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- I also tried to square this out, but I fucked it up somehow... Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 10:19, 6 January 2016 (EST)
I feel like I'm asking you for a lot of shit but
If I asked you to make some alts for me, do you think you'd be able to? Because Pixlr is not agreeing with me XD
Also, do you have an email? I think that would be easier for me (as well as make it so I don't clog up so much of your talk page). Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 17:14, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- I can try. Photoshop makes costumes a little difficult so it depends on the complexity of the images and the shades you're looking for.
- I do have an email (two actually), but one's my personal email that I only use for work (a term used loosely since I'm 15) and personal stuff, and the other one's my junk email that I use to make accounts, so neither would really work. You're not the first internet person that's asked though, so I might consider making one for my Wikis. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:20, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- My gmail (the one I prefer since I use my computer for this type of shit) is on my userpage, so you can just shoot an email towards that. I'll let you know what type of colors I'm looking for. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 17:25, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- Oh, and reminder of my last message on the section before this one. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 17:39, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- I can't really crop very well, Photoshop isn't good at that.
- Let me get it set up and I'll email ya. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:38, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- There are two things I think you should be aware of. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 15:21, 7 January 2016 (EST)
- Oh, and reminder of my last message on the section before this one. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 17:39, 6 January 2016 (EST)
- My gmail (the one I prefer since I use my computer for this type of shit) is on my userpage, so you can just shoot an email towards that. I'll let you know what type of colors I'm looking for. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 17:25, 6 January 2016 (EST)
(Reset indent) It was silly of me to forget to mention that that user doesn't really respond much. Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 15:24, 7 January 2016 (EST)
Did you get the email I sent you yesterday? Aidan, the Wandering Space Warrior 22:35, 9 January 2016 (EST)
- I did now. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:47, 9 January 2016 (EST)
Select Wanted Pages
One of your unmade userpages is in the Select Wanted Pages list. You should probably do something to remove it from the list. John PK SMAAAASH!! 13:30, 7 January 2016 (EST)
Quake symbol
May I request the Quake symbol as a series icon? Dots (talk) The Pikachu 16:26, 7 January 2016 (EST)
- That would depend on what the Quake symbol is. (I probably should know, but I'm exhausted right now so) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:32, 7 January 2016 (EST)
- This thing? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:33, 7 January 2016 (EST)
Where do I start?
So, I see you sent me a message regarding helping out the wiki, and while I'd like to, I'm not sure what to do. I looked through the wanted pages, and pretty much all of them were either Smash players or specific moves, and considering I know nothing about players or frame data, I can't really help with those. Where else can I go to find what needs to be done? Apihedron talk 15:03, 14 January 2016 (EST)
- Yeah, I run into that too since I kind of hate the competitive scene >.>
- Usually what I do is just spam Special:Random until I find a page that isn't competitive, read through it, see if there's any uninteresting trivia or grammar/spelling errors, etc. and make any changes necessary.
- You can also use Category:Articles in need of images. A lot of the stuff in there is basic stuff on the Wii U version, and you can get that easily by going to Miiverse and saving the screenshot to your Screenshot Album (or with SD cards or whatever, depending on what you have).
- Hope this helps! ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:08, 14 January 2016 (EST)
Yo
DekZek requested me to ask you if you could fuse Lorule Castle and Hyrule Castle together, much like he did with Fountain of Dreams and Dream Land. Disaster Flare (talk) 17:42, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- I'm... not sure I understand what he did. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:21, 15 January 2016 (EST)
Before I delete that image
From what game is your replacement from and where did you get it? It doesn't look official to me, but who knows Serpent King 22:12, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- Super Mario World, and MarioWiki. They aren't good at a lot of things, but sorting out fanart is one of their specialties. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:13, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- K fair enough. Serpent King 22:13, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- Google gave me this site as the only other website with it (besides Fantendo, but y'know). I don't speak Japanese so idk what exactly it's legitimacy is. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:15, 15 January 2016 (EST)
- K fair enough. Serpent King 22:13, 15 January 2016 (EST)
So I hear you wanted to talk to me about something?
I'm on the IRC now if you still need me. Serpent King 17:58, 18 January 2016 (EST)
I have a question.
Can I steal your CSS (with credit, of course) and replace the head icons? Penro (talk) 16:24, 19 January 2016 (EST)
- Yeah, sure! I took it from INoMed and just did some minor changes, so y'know.
- Based on past experience, don't expect the head icon replacement to be easy... ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:35, 19 January 2016 (EST)
- Thanks! Although the head icons will be the death of me... ---This message is from Penro. 16:39, 19 January 2016 (EST)
- I changed my mind. I just want these two head icons: . Can you give me the coding? ---This message is from Penro. 20:36, 19 January 2016 (EST)
- Thanks! Although the head icons will be the death of me... ---This message is from Penro. 16:39, 19 January 2016 (EST)
li#pt-userpage { background: url(/images/thumb/4/4f/DarkPitHeadBrownSSB4-U.png/50px-DarkPitHeadBrownSSB4-U.png) center no-repeat, url(/images/thumb/e/e0/ZeroSuitSamusHeadBlackSSB4-U.png/50px-ZeroSuitSamusHeadBlackSSB4-U.png) left no-repeat; padding:0 0 40px 100px; }
That should do it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:45, 19 January 2016 (EST)
- Thank you very much! (I'll edit the mainspace now...) ---This message is from Penro. 20:51, 19 January 2016 (EST)
Swampy
I am terrible at making series icons. If you could, could you make one for Swampy in SSBD? I have plans for his moveset, so I'll make it myself... Oh, and PS, your CSS works great! I started using it! Trainiax: Waluigi in Smash? Discuss it! 13:20, 20 January 2016 (EST)
- I can certainly try. And thanks! It's mostly INoMed's work though :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:09, 20 January 2016 (EST)
- Done! Go ahead and make the page first and I'll upload it so that it doesn't sit around unused too long :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:16, 20 January 2016 (EST)
CSS
You may wanna change 98 to Penro. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 13:36, 22 January 2016 (EST)
- I did :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:24, 22 January 2016 (EST)
- Maybe the edit didn't go through, because, it still says the IP. -- Ethan (Discussion) 14:13, 24 January 2016 (EST)
- CSS is user specific. Changes to DNK's CSS will not affect you. Serpent King 14:16, 24 January 2016 (EST)
- Nevermind, I meant the his user page. -- Ethan (Discussion) 14:18, 24 January 2016 (EST)
- I haven't updated my main userpage or the CSS pic yet. I will now though. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:46, 24 January 2016 (EST)
- Nevermind, I meant the his user page. -- Ethan (Discussion) 14:18, 24 January 2016 (EST)
- CSS is user specific. Changes to DNK's CSS will not affect you. Serpent King 14:16, 24 January 2016 (EST)
- Maybe the edit didn't go through, because, it still says the IP. -- Ethan (Discussion) 14:13, 24 January 2016 (EST)
Userbox
Do you have one? -- The 70's called. They said BeepYou was here :v (talk) 22:12, 25 January 2016 (EST)
- No ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:23, 25 January 2016 (EST)
- Because you're a cool guy, I consider you as a friend most of the time. -- The 70's called. They said BeepYou was here :v (talk) 22:36, 25 January 2016 (EST)
- Thanks. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 12:38, 26 January 2016 (EST)
- Because you're a cool guy, I consider you as a friend most of the time. -- The 70's called. They said BeepYou was here :v (talk) 22:36, 25 January 2016 (EST)
About the move
I understand your enthusiasm about it, but the fact that the tag keeps getting removed and re-added is becoming a form of edit warring. Serpent, Miles, and I are all getting tired of the hammer debate. Can you at least wait a month or two before doing it again? Disaster Flare (talk) 14:39, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- There's no rule saying I have to - it's a brand new discussion, so removing the tag before it can be discussed is not fair (and I'm pretty sure goes against a policy). If you don't want to be involved, don't get involved, but there's no reason to remove the tag. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:41, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- It does not count as a new discussion if you re-added the tag exactly a DAY after it's removed. It doesn't work like that, so there's every reason to remove the tag. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Stop removing it before this actually becomes an edit war.
- It shouldn't have been removed in the first place, and any new discussion can easily have new results. If it becomes a problem besides you, SK, and Miles unfairly removing the tag before a consensus can be reached, then I will remove it. Right now, the biggest problem is the three of you not being okay with the discussion getting a solution. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:46, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- We can get a solution later. Right now, you're making this an issue by constantly re-adding it and it's stressing all of us out because it's seeing no end. The reason we wait before re-adding a suggestion is so we have enough time to shed a new light on it. Re-adding it right after it's removed does not give us that luxury and only stresses us out. I'm just trying to follow the rules here, but you're making it an issue right now. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:47, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Give me any rule that says 1) discussions cannot be reopened until a certain amount of time has passed or 2) discussion can be ended if an admin thinks it's stupid and I will admit that you are right and I am wrong. However, I am positive neither of those rules exist, so that puts you as much in the wrong as I am (and I will agree I overreacted there). ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- I might've overreacted a bit too, and I'm not saying either of those are rules, I'm just saying we need time before re-opening a discussion, because it gives us time to think about the idea of the move and maybe change our opinions later. It's not that we thought it was stupid, it's that it seemed to have no end, so we ended it to give some time for everybody to think about it first. I think our current policy on things like this when it comes to failing due to insufficient consensus is more than fair because of the fact that it's not like we can never suggest it again, but re-adding it right after it's removed and going against people's wishes when they ask not to re-add it, especially when it's an admin who all they're trying to do is prevent problems, it only creates issues. That's what I mean when I say I'm just following the rules. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:55, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Give me any rule that says 1) discussions cannot be reopened until a certain amount of time has passed or 2) discussion can be ended if an admin thinks it's stupid and I will admit that you are right and I am wrong. However, I am positive neither of those rules exist, so that puts you as much in the wrong as I am (and I will agree I overreacted there). ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:51, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- We can get a solution later. Right now, you're making this an issue by constantly re-adding it and it's stressing all of us out because it's seeing no end. The reason we wait before re-adding a suggestion is so we have enough time to shed a new light on it. Re-adding it right after it's removed does not give us that luxury and only stresses us out. I'm just trying to follow the rules here, but you're making it an issue right now. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:47, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- It does not count as a new discussion if you re-added the tag exactly a DAY after it's removed. It doesn't work like that, so there's every reason to remove the tag. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2016 (EST)
(reset indent) Except that's not a policy - that is an arbitrary decision made by SK, Nyargle, and Miles. It has not been approved as a policy or a guideline and should not be treated as such. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 14:57, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Yes, admins are not kings, but if THEY say it's a problem, especially when it's all three active admins, it's probably a problem. I don't want to see any action being taken on either of us, which is why I'm talking to you right here and now. If you want to re-open the discussion in the future, that's fine. I'm just asking that you give us some time to cool off from it first before doing it again. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:59, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- You literally just said "admins are not kings but if they all say something is true then it has to be". We also had at least two normal users who disagreed (me and Aardvarkian) - why are Miles, SK, and Nyargle's opinion more important? 3:2 is not consensus - that's the entire problem with the conversation on Hammer. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:00, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Also I feel a pretty big "holier than thou" attitude about you talking to me here and now when I specifically asked mid-edit war that you did and you got SK's permission to ignore me instead of doing it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:02, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- That's not what I meant. I'm saying all three admins are having issues with it. Remember: admins keep the peace on the wiki. They're saying that this is blowing out of proportion (the edit war we just had proves that it is). Yes, it's not consensus, but it's the ultimate outcome. And no, I am not "holier than thou" as you say, I did not get Serpent's "permission", it's what we both agreed upon. The tag IS becoming a form of edit warring. I'm just trying to follow the rules, not trying to act like I'm better than everybody. I'm honestly rather offended by that and I have no idea where you got that from. Disaster Flare (talk) 15:04, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- (edit conflict) But you're not following any rules. You're blindly following the admin's opinions. Besides the edit war (which I'm still pretty sure my reverts were pretty legit, but I'm not going to win that), there was no rule against what I did. The removal of the tag because there was no consensus is not appropriate because there is no rule to back it up and users were still continuing the discussion, and reopening the discussion as a new discussion was also perfectly in line with all the rules. You aren't "following the rules", so stop saying that you are. (You aren't breaking them either, besides, again, the edit war, just to be clear.) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:10, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- That's not what I meant. I'm saying all three admins are having issues with it. Remember: admins keep the peace on the wiki. They're saying that this is blowing out of proportion (the edit war we just had proves that it is). Yes, it's not consensus, but it's the ultimate outcome. And no, I am not "holier than thou" as you say, I did not get Serpent's "permission", it's what we both agreed upon. The tag IS becoming a form of edit warring. I'm just trying to follow the rules, not trying to act like I'm better than everybody. I'm honestly rather offended by that and I have no idea where you got that from. Disaster Flare (talk) 15:04, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Also I feel a pretty big "holier than thou" attitude about you talking to me here and now when I specifically asked mid-edit war that you did and you got SK's permission to ignore me instead of doing it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:02, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- You literally just said "admins are not kings but if they all say something is true then it has to be". We also had at least two normal users who disagreed (me and Aardvarkian) - why are Miles, SK, and Nyargle's opinion more important? 3:2 is not consensus - that's the entire problem with the conversation on Hammer. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:00, 27 January 2016 (EST)
"I'm not happy with the results of the previous discussion so I'm opening up a brand new one." is not a valid reason to re-open a closed debate the next day. 3 different admins had closed the discussion at various points due to lack of consensus in favor of the move, only for you to keep arguing. I encourage you to reconsider your vehemence on this point, Nutty, and for both you and DF to keep personal feelings out of it. Miles (talk) 15:05, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- It's exactly why any new discussion would be open? No certain time is required to pass before a discussion can be reopened. And the tag had been added back by a user who is, according to an actual policy, just as important as an admin, with support from another user who's just as important as an admin. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:10, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Immediately re-opening discussion the next day represents little more than a desire to keep arguing. Admins aren't kings, but part of our role is to moderate discussion; if all of the involved moderators in a discussion come to the same conclusion about its results, you should understand that they did so for a reason. I don't understand why you think the result will be any different the next day. (And according to policy, you were violating 1RV repeatedly by re-adding the tag, so don't play the policy-lawyering card.) Miles (talk) 15:15, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- It was a 2:3 in favor of keeping the tag off, and going by the policy of admins are not any more important than users, that's not good enough to prove it's wrong. If it had been 3 normal users who agree it should be removed vs. 2 who agree it shouldn't without any admins involved, you probably would agree (obviously I'm not inside your head but whatever).
- I'm not looking at 1RV right now and have admitted that I was in the wrong there. Throwing my mistakes that I've admitted to back in my face to try to get out of another policy that goes against you really makes you look immature. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Let me present it this way. Page moves like that require a discussion to reach consensus. Admins, who are responsible for managing discussions, determined it didn't have sufficient consensus. "Admins aren't more important than users" means we don't count for "extra points" in discussions, and we're not inherently "always right"; however, we do have a job to do in managing discussions. Disagreeing with a resolution is one thing, but repeatedly and vehemently arguing every time an admin tries to resolve the situation is frustrating. Miles (talk) 16:06, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- Immediately re-opening discussion the next day represents little more than a desire to keep arguing. Admins aren't kings, but part of our role is to moderate discussion; if all of the involved moderators in a discussion come to the same conclusion about its results, you should understand that they did so for a reason. I don't understand why you think the result will be any different the next day. (And according to policy, you were violating 1RV repeatedly by re-adding the tag, so don't play the policy-lawyering card.) Miles (talk) 15:15, 27 January 2016 (EST)
Looking at this from the perspective of someone who wasn't involved, I see a highly fragmented move discussion that went nowhere and was agreed to be going nowhere, so it was closed and the status quo was upheld. Do you really think that opening it back up immediately would do anything but repeat the exact same results, therefore wasting everyone's time? Calling it a "new discussion" isn't magically going to change people's opinion on the issue. No one's going to like the results of every single discussion we have; don't be the one guy that can't accept defeat and move on. Toomai Glittershine The Sphere 16:14, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- I have a hard time believing that effectively favoring one side is fair at all, much less the fairest way to handle a discussion that is not reaching consensus. What's the difference between just going through with the move when there's no consensus vs. not moving it at all besides less effort? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- To keep a discussion going that long after it has had split consensus since it began makes no sense. It was very clear that we were not going reach an actual consensus (by the way, no, being in support by 1 vote is not considered a consensus, and a democratic approach in this situation when the discussion did not open as such would be inappropriate; not to mention, if you recall, we were 7-6 with neutral-supports. If we counted the neutral-supports separate, we'd be evenly tied at 6-6). Rather than let the discussion go nowhere even more, the decision was made by all 3 active admins to end it, and in that decision, it makes a lot more sense to keep the page as is than to go through with the move. I also have difficulty accepting your claims that we are acting on bias, given that directly after the decision to close discussion, you proceeded to open a new discussion, ergo dissatisfaction with the result of the previous discussion, AKA bias. Serpent King 19:34, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- I'm not saying you're biased, I'm saying that your solution favors one side. That would be true no matter what side you were on - the side of opposition gets a better result than the side of support.
- Also, my logic of reopening it was not that I wanted it to end on my side - if the discussion had ended with opposition winning by more votes, then I would be fine. I don't like the opposition, for lack of a better term getting a win they did not earn. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:21, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- But that was the reason for opening a new discussion in the first place, dissatisfaction with the result of the last... If you had been in oppose, would you have honestly still reopened discussion? Serpent King 21:26, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- I'm a little blinded by hindsight here, but I'd like to think yes, given the same unfair circumstance but in my favor, I still would've spoken up. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:29, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- But that was the reason for opening a new discussion in the first place, dissatisfaction with the result of the last... If you had been in oppose, would you have honestly still reopened discussion? Serpent King 21:26, 27 January 2016 (EST)
- To keep a discussion going that long after it has had split consensus since it began makes no sense. It was very clear that we were not going reach an actual consensus (by the way, no, being in support by 1 vote is not considered a consensus, and a democratic approach in this situation when the discussion did not open as such would be inappropriate; not to mention, if you recall, we were 7-6 with neutral-supports. If we counted the neutral-supports separate, we'd be evenly tied at 6-6). Rather than let the discussion go nowhere even more, the decision was made by all 3 active admins to end it, and in that decision, it makes a lot more sense to keep the page as is than to go through with the move. I also have difficulty accepting your claims that we are acting on bias, given that directly after the decision to close discussion, you proceeded to open a new discussion, ergo dissatisfaction with the result of the previous discussion, AKA bias. Serpent King 19:34, 27 January 2016 (EST)
Celestial Valley
I was going to add this stage (and maybe a character) on to your SSBD project. But i'm not a good editor ...so IDK what to do... KirbysCrazyAppetite (talk) 18:50, 28 January 2016 (EST)
- It's not hard, so I can probably help you through it.
- Assuming the first thing you want to do is Celestial Valley, just create User:KirbysCrazyAppetite/Celestial Valley and fill it in like an actual stage page (i.e. Gerudo Valley) but replacing any mention of SSB4 with SSBD, and obviously making it describe Celestial Valley instead of Gerudo Valley.
- If you can't figure out the stuff like the stage table, Aidan, DF, and I are usually online enough to get that set for you, so you don't have to worry about it :P
- Besides that, as long as you don't get too caught up in making edits to Project Dream and forget the actual goal of the wiki, just kind of do whatever you want! :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 19:00, 28 January 2016 (EST)
I can do most of the page... But there's one major problem - I'm using a PS4 - That has a browser that can't upload or download images - stupid, I know >_< ... So what do you want me to do?
- (2 questions also, is The Arena a good song and is there a new Screen KO animation? Every game has a different one) KirbysCrazyAppetite (talk) 19:40, 28 January 2016 (EST)
- I can help with pictures then. Just go ahead and make the page.
- It's up to you what songs you choose - I'd say it works though - and not that we've come up with yet. You can, though. (Idk how you'd list it though :P) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 19:54, 28 January 2016 (EST)
I tested it and the infobox refuses to work - http://www.ssbwiki.com/User:KirbysCrazyAppetite/Celestial_Valley KirbysCrazyAppetite (talk) 20:19, 28 January 2016 (EST)
- Fixed. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 20:22, 28 January 2016 (EST)
BTW, if your curious of what 100% complete main menu is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZgayQuJ1Ec KirbysCrazyAppetite (talk) 20:30, 28 January 2016 (EST)
40 KB!
You may wanna archive. Penro, the and main. 21:22, 28 January 2016 (EST)
- Seriously? Already?
- Mkay. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:27, 28 January 2016 (EST)