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December 15th List

I will make you fit... INTO A COFFIN.

Your ideal heart rate... IS ZERO.

Take a deep breath... FOR IT WILL BE YOUR LAST.

Oh, and I guess hooray for the Mii Fighters too. Also the new DLC.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List XII
	HOO		TOP					HIGH
	1		2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17
	52.850		48.416	48.360	48.251	48.134	47.967	45.899	45.573	45.486	45.140	44.750	43.863	42.731	42.658	42.143	40.974	40.859
	MID
	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35
	39.674	38.770	38.535	38.388	37.359	36.412	36.343	35.938	35.505	35.126	34.233	34.222	34.076	34.039	33.757	32.903	32.747	32.704
LOW														LOW-			BOTTOM		RAWR
36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	50	51	52	53	54	55
31.061	30.963	30.631	30.270	29.240	29.143	28.775	28.363	27.916	27.723	27.719	27.225	26.906	26.458	25.278	24.245	23.780	20.745	20.442	15.342

November 15th List

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List XI
					HOO		TOP
					1		2	3	4	5	6	7
					50.334		46.687	46.618	46.187	45.583	44.594	44.560
		HIGH									SEMIHIGH
		8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15		16	17	18	19	20
		42.818	42.129	42.002	41.842	40.997	40.811	40.733	39.797		38.706	37.830	37.786	37.656	37.495
MID
21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38
36.855	36.275	35.664	35.160	34.882	34.475	34.365	34.076	33.879	33.749	33.219	32.746	32.663	32.390	32.302	32.069	31.718	31.538
	LOW							BOTTOM								RAWR
	39	40	41	42	43	44		45	46	47	48	49	50	51		52
	30.581	30.340	30.317	30.085	29.734	29.384		27.793	26.913	26.895	26.246	25.681	24.790	24.476		16.931

October 15th List

With the new list, comes a much less retarded tier placement, and thus the loss of the drab greyness that was the last tier list. In celebration of Mii Fighters being pretty much officially banned in all tournaments that actually mean something, as well as their extreme lack of data resulting from this banning, I have decided to use divine intervention to forcefully end the Mii Domination Era. From now on, Mii fighters will not be included on this list.

Also, in other news, several characters got shuffled around quite a bit, and we have our first tie under the new ranking system due to the planets aligning. In fact, we were only .0001 point away from having no less than three ties on this list. It's quite incredible and just goes to show you how much people don't give a shit about making tier lists and would rather just play the characters they want to play, only in a way that actually does something for their respective characters. In fact, there is nothing preventing normal Pit players from reaching the same height as Black Pit, except that all the good Pit players use Black Pit because they never outgrew that edgy phase in their early teens that pretty much everyone experienced in the mid-2000's.

Seriously, normal Pit players, learn to git gud. This tier list thing is a complete joke unless you learn to win for once.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List X
BANG	HOO	NINJA		FAST	BIKE & IKE		HIGH
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13
34.553	33.541	32.440	32.076	30.818	28.934	28.733	27.961	27.813	27.732	27.720	27.552	27.499
		SEMIHIGH
		14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22
		27.022	26.751	26.679	26.338	26.293	26.279	26.011	25.861	25.813
	MID PART I
	23	24	25	26	27	28-29		30	31	32	33
	24.944	24.239	23.928	23.687	23.497	23.394		23.101	23.073	22.942	22.941
	MID PART II
	34	35	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44
	22.681	22.484	22.212	22.173	21.963	21.915	21.914	21.869	21.667	21.608	21.492
		LOW+			LOW		LOW-		BOTTOM
		45	46	47	48	49	50		51	52
		20.690	20.646	20.327	19.684	19.673	18.760		17.402	17.021

September 15th List

This month, the list was so "balanced" that it was impossible to split this list into tiers without making it look completely retarded, so I've gone for a new look this time around. Enjoy the drab greyness while it lasts. Also, a lot of shit has been shaken up, yet the damn Miis are still as strong as ever. Awesome.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List IX
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11
41.063	35.896	34.756	33.247	32.572	31.048	30.116	30.066	29.298	29.078	28.439
12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22
28.183	28.103	27.892	27.825	27.747	27.525	27.515	27.346	26.833	26.577	26.543
23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33
26.137	26.047	25.929	25.853	24.365	24.191	23.956	23.639	23.540	23.512	23.419
34	35	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44
23.260	23.230	23.111	22.961	22.659	22.629	22.376	22.336	22.158	22.036	21.789
45	46	47	48	49	50	51	52	53	54	55
21.662	21.644	21.495	21.267	21.231	21.220	20.855	19.326	17.387	16.418	16.059

August 16th List

Here's your damn Super Mii Fighter Tier List. I don't care if it's a day late. I don't care if the tiers themselves were determined based on arbitrary boundaries due to the absolutely terrible tier layout. I don't care that most of the roster got bumped down 10 places while Mii Gunner jumped half the list. Let's just never talk about this again.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List VIII
	MII		TOP		HIGH
	1		2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10
	44.168		35.602	35.056	32.179	32.147	32.027	31.593	31.322	31.230	30.329
SEMIHIGH
11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23
28.763	28.490	28.476	28.303	28.118	28.094	27.974	27.901	27.670	27.303	27.005	26.918	26.207
MID
24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36
25.322	25.146	24.747	24.445	24.325	24.177	24.097	24.027	23.796	23.583	23.563	23.558	23.551
		SEMILOW
		37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45
		23.223	23.212	23.131	23.121	22.980	22.972	22.793	22.695	22.462
	LOW							BOTTOM
	46	47	48	49	50	51		52	53	54	55
	21.933	21.830	21.413	20.650	19.884	19.798		18.870	17.944	17.824	16.979

July 16th List

Just like PM, this new list adopts the "use only the last 6 months of data" trait. This of course means absolutely nothing for Mii Brawler, who only rose to prominence beginning in January. As expected, none of the new characters even came close to toppling the punchy tyrant, though other characters have been affected dramatically. Luncina has doubly shit the bed and is now in the process of dying of dysentery, while Ganondorf, Mewtwo, and Robot experience a similar decline. Ike, Palutena, Yoshi, and Pit have noticeably risen, while Falco has absolutely SKYROCKETED, cutting his rank number (*ahem*) "directly" in half. Still, this is the 5th tier list in which Mii Brawler has been unopposed, so Falco's work just kinda falls by the wayside. Seriously, the Mii Domination has got to end one of these days.

Maybe if everyone uses exclusively Iwata Miis, I would hate them less.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List VII
	MII++		HOO	MII+	SCALZ	HIGH							HIGH-
	1		2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
	46.169		35.424	34.812	33.461	31.849	31.701	31.611	31.401	31.280	31.024	30.682	30.238
	SEMIHIGH			MID+						MID
	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25
	28.806	28.766	28.760	27.557	27.487	27.192	27.008	26.862	26.718	26.090	26.087	25.889	25.510
SEMILOW
26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40
24.957	24.776	24.770	24.387	24.268	24.234	24.214	23.954	23.917	23.654	23.550	23.494	23.372	23.233	22.951
LOW							BOTTOM						BAD	ARGH
41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	50	51	52	53	54	55
22.523	22.492	22.481	22.148	21.816	21.710	21.559	20.827	20.616	20.347	20.243	19.957	19.823	17.332	16.636

June 13th List

So it's a little early. Sue me.

Anyway, Mii Brawler continues to give absolutely no fucks towards the current meta, reaching his most retardedly high score yet, putting him a good 10 points above the second highest, also a Mii Fighter. This new domination of the Mii Fighters yet again leaves me to wonder whether or not I should even keep them on this list anymore, as the only times they are recorded in the rankings are whenever they win, giving them such a disproportionately high number of wins as to completely break the way these rankings are calculated.

In other news, Mewtwo continues to fluctuate in the high-ish tiers; Duck Hunt, Wii Fit, Kirby, Game & Watch, and Samus have seen quite a noticeable jump in place; Lucina has officially shit the bed, dropping 15 places; Black Pit and Pit are still really far apart despite being the same damn character; and Lizardon still has not won a single tournament in over 5 months.

Hopefully, the new characters will prove to be the saviors we need to topple the Mii Fuckery.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List VI
	MII++		MII+		HOO		FAST		MAN				EDGE
	1		2		3		4	5	6	7	8		9	10
	50.499		39.594		36.290		33.677	33.282	32.597	32.100	32.060		31.344	31.025
	HIGH+	HIGH						SEMIHIGH
	11	12	13	14	15	16		17	18	19	20	21	22	23
	30.046	29.301	28.834	28.761	28.529	28.060		27.171	26.955	26.721	26.717	26.450	26.327	25.839
	MID+				MID-
	24	25	26		27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36
	25.172	25.112	25.061		24.499	24.481	24.346	24.179	24.164	23.922	23.705	23.453	23.392	23.184
LOW										BOTTOM+			BOTTOM-		MII-
37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	50	51	52
22.684	22.679	22.651	22.580	22.344	22.067	21.746	21.673	21.424	21.370	20.070	19.609	19.181	18.432	18.240	14.305

May 15th List

So it's a little late. Sue me.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List V
MII+	MYU	HOO-HAH		FAST	EDGE		HIGH					SEMIHIGH
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19
46.974	40.370	36.785	36.640	35.415	34.026	33.651	32.564	32.371	32.081	32.032	31.557	29.344	29.129	28.654	28.496	28.339	28.194	27.737
	MID+															MID-
	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33		34	35
	27.111	26.759	26.639	26.176	25.937	25.912	25.821	25.652	25.188	24.961	24.723	24.698	24.282	24.226		23.290	23.237
	LOW														OHH	HUT	MII-
	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	50	51	52
	22.492	22.188	22.017	21.975	21.858	21.758	21.630	21.337	21.211	20.994	20.634	20.607	20.170	20.165	19.531	18.431	13.390

April 15th List

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the end of an era. Once we reconvene here next month, there will be a 52nd place for our Mii Gunner friend to rot in for all eternity. Meanwhile, as long as people don't play Mii Brawler, he will continue to score a disproportionately high number of tournament wins, thereby anchoring his place in top tier for years to come. In the meantime, we can all congratulate Mii Swordfighter for not sucking for once. Isn't it amazing? I mean sure, he's still fairly pathetic, but I would consider it to be more amazing that he's not at the bottom than it is that the clone characters are still placed so damn high. Also, check out those meteoric rises of Janc-Man and Projectile Mutt. As for the falls of Zelda and Purin... talk about Agony in Pink. And don't even try to mention the whole Pit/Black Pit thing; it still doesn't make sense, so we're just going to have to learn to deal with it and move along.

... Mewtwo cannot come soon enough.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List IV
			MII+	HOO-HAH		FAST		HIGH					HIGH-		SEMI+	SEMI-
			1	2	3	4		5	6	7	8	9	10		11	12
			45.344	37.153	36.999	35.487		32.836	32.461	32.318	32.224	31.781	30.898		30.040	29.335
MID+									MID-
13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32
28.651	28.629	28.599	28.146	27.940	27.465	26.951	26.738	26.666	26.087	25.519	25.500	25.472	25.360	25.287	25.054	24.802	24.626	24.456	24.423
LOW														BOTTOM+		BOTTOM-			MII-
33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45		46	47	48	49	50	51
23.761	23.382	23.151	22.761	22.672	22.538	22.410	22.347	22.222	21.827	21.551	21.263	20.820		20.137	20.008	19.050	18.631	18.268	7.176

March 16th List

You see this? This is why the Mii Fighters should not be on the tier list. For all of you who care about as much as I do about them, you can just ignore the top and bottom-most tiers. The real question we should be asking here is: will Mewtwo be on the next list? I say, "if it bleeds, it leads", which roughly translates into "not a chance, bucko". That being said, it's quite refreshing seeing someone hog the spotlight other than the clone characters for once. I fully expect them to continue to decline until they reach about the same -or lower- rank as their original counterparts. This month's Character of the Month Award goes to Pit, for dropping twenty-four places, proving once again that his ranking on the previous list was just a fluke caused by the fluctuations, and that Black Pit still does not nearly deserve his spot on this month's list.

Also, as I'm sure you can tell, this month features the largest tier list in the history of tier lists, with 24 characters. This is absolutely horrifying and I apologize in advance for exposing this to you.

Let us hope it never happens again.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List III
		MII+			HOO-HAH				EDGE			HIGH+	HIGH	HIGH-					SEMIHIGH
		1			2	3	4		5	6		7	8	9	10	11	12		13	14	15
		41.277			37.444	37.008	36.740		35.307	35.000		32.887	32.261	31.322	31.150	31.049	30.470		29.693	29.102	28.534
MID
16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39
27.909	27.558	27.379	26.879	26.479	26.349	25.886	25.545	25.378	25.200	24.874	24.822	24.708	24.239	23.879	23.854	23.795	23.374	23.112	23.102	23.100	23.061	22.862	22.796
				LOW					EHH		BOTTOM+		BOTTOM-				MII-		MII--
				40	41	42	43		44		45	46	47	48	49		50		51
				22.012	21.719	21.586	21.358		19.683		18.791	18.543	17.844	17.568	17.433		16.667		8.333

February 14th List

Doc, Meta Knight, and Mario put in some real work to get into the high tiers. At last, all the clones are in the top 5, despite their original characters scoring way lower even though the clones are THE SAME DAMN THING, BUT WORSE. Also of note are Zelda and Toon Link's rises, from the shitty bottom tiers to the slightly less shitty lower tiers. You have to really think at this point, is it even worth it? To the social outcast who wants nothing more than to find a band of like-minded rejects to hang out with just to keep themselves from travelling the route of the psychotic basement-dwelling manchild, yes. It is.

Speaking of psychotic basement-dwelling manchildren, this month's bed shitters are Sheik, Villager, Wii Fit, Samus, and Yoshi, throwing out all of the advantages they have going for them in maths and sciences to pursue a lifelong passion of theatre, in which they act out the bewildering and somewhat frustrating story of their own career suicide. And what the hell is up with Mr. Beep Boop coming in last place again? Is this game racist or something? Ageist? Dimensionist? Who knows. All I know is that when a character places 5th for three consecutive months only to drop to dead last, something is NOT OKAY. Perhaps Morse Code Man is finally undergoing some kind of clinical depression stemming from an existential crisis after being yanked out of the handheld video game medium yet again to do battle against foes in an alien dimension that his feeble 4-bits of RAM can't even comprehend. Or maybe Binary Bob is just sad that the Mii Fighters are still not on the list. Well, based on the data collected, a whopping 0-2 representatives of each Player Avatard made an appearance at APEX. I can't blame them-- the Fighters were gimped almost as hard as Chillin during his Fiscal Feud with Leffen, what with that whole "no customs" bullshit. And that's what happens when you allow the game-defining ruleset for a 3 month old meta to be designed by the same people who thought hosting the event in a derelict shithole with an average rating of 3/10 was a good idea.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List II
	HOO-HAH		LEFFEN		HIGH+		HIGH-
	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12
	37.348	37.032	35.304	34.911	31.870	31.850	31.249	30.950	30.903	30.658	30.495	30.457
	MID+						MID-					MEH
	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22		23
	29.192	29.142	28.821	28.688	28.610	28.276	27.800	27.744	27.570	27.114		25.643
LOW+			LOW		LOW-
24	25	26	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37
24.686	24.615	24.164	23.470	23.344	22.777	22.704	22.590	22.520	22.497	22.370	22.114	21.696	21.317
	BOTTOM								S	U	C	K
	38	39	40	41	42	43	44		45	46	47	48
	20.841	20.547	20.276	19.878	19.736	19.460	19.310		18.828	17.170	16.274	12.667

January 16th List

So, here it is. Apparently, my data source hasn't updated at all since the last list I did, so I just went "fuck it" and switched over to the Wii-U version of the game. As you can probably tell, this resulted in extreme changes brought on by the fact that people know better than to use all the lame characters. As a result, the clones continue to deviate drastically from their originals, with Lucina and Black Pit making the top 3. Meanwhile, characters like Falco and Game & Watch just shit the bucket and PLUMMETED FOURTY-THREE POSITIONS to reach their current statuses. Pit also got rescued from the lower-than-bottom tier and resides in a place more deserving for Sakurai's finest. Now you may be wondering, where are the Mii Fighters? Well, you see, the Mii Fighters have reached a new low in relevance, rivaled only by Smash Bros. for 3DS itself. I decided that it would probably be in my best interests to not include characters with only 1-3 instances of data which is heavily skewed because the only people who use these God-forsaken characters just so happen to be the only ones to consistently pull tournament victories out of their collective asses. Who knows? Perhaps if the Mii Fighters aren't completely ignored at APEX, I might consider adding them back in. Might.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List I
TOP		GUYS		FOR		NOW		HIGH
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13
37.181	36.969	35.939	35.592	33.761	33.681	32.472	31.925	30.751	30.300	30.227	30.118	29.989
MID+								MID-
14	15	16	17	18	19	20		21	22	23	24	25
29.337	29.141	29.135	29.024	28.974	28.960	28.666		27.961	27.781	27.707	27.614	27.247
	MEH+	MEH-		LOW+	LOW
	26	27		28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35
	25.858	25.194		23.782	22.815	22.652	22.580	22.428	22.344	22.241	21.852
LOW-					EH	BOTTOM				BOTTOM-ER
36	37	38	39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48
21.138	20.624	20.366	20.057	19.679	18.740	17.742	17.405	17.075	16.789	15.444	14.969	14.683

December 15th List

Well, with the release of Smash for Wii U this past month, this will most likely be the last list before we switch games. Anyway, several characters are still too low or too high compared with how good they actually are as characters, no thanks to the current lack of a metagame outside of "bitch about characters you can't defeat". Several characters have not changed places in the past month and eight characters have not been played at all, proving that Smash for 3DS was little more than a glorified demo to tide people over until the real game came out. Due to finally winning a fricken' tournament, Olimar has successfully jumped 32 places, from the "Why Is Pit All The Way Down Here While Black Pit Is Way Up There" Tier to the "Seriously They're The Same Bloody Character For Crying Out Loud" Tier. Meanwhile, Palutena and Reflet have moved down 9 and 10 places, respectively, thereby denying them both the pleasure of hanging out with all the cool kids. Look, they're all pointing and laughing at them now. How sad.

Little do they all know that the next list is gonna hit them like a sack of dead swordfighters.

Super Smash Bros. for 3DS Unofficial Tier List III
			P	O	W	E	R	S
			1	2	3	4	5	6
			45.77	43.21	40.50	39.07	38.31	37.62
HIGH+			HIGH		HIGH-
7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18
35.40	35.19	35.13	34.04	33.84	33.27	33.22	32.78	32.73	32.44	32.39	32.28
MID
19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27	28	29	30
31.72	31.44	31.37	31.16	30.87	30.74	30.45	30.24	30.17	30.03	29.92	29.67
	LOW+	LOW			LOW-	LOWER
	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38	39	40
	28.31	27.74	27.56	27.53	27.03	26.43	26.18	25.97	25.67	25.29
BOTTOM				EH	ECHH		B		A	D
41	42	43	44	45	46		47	48	49	50	51
24.09	23.76	23.44	23.33	22.25	21.28		16.15	15.88	14.64	12.96	12.79

November 18th List

Well, here it is. After a second month, some of the problems with the previous list have been fixed, only to be replaced with even greater ones due to the wild character fluctuations that occur with a relatively low amount of data. Of particular note, Wario shot up to the #1 spot thanks to complete dumb luck, rising THIRTY-FIVE places to do so. Other notable rises/crashes include Kirby, rising 34; Palutena, rising 31; Meta Knight, rising 20; Luigi, falling 28; Shulk, falling 29; and Yoshi, falling 20. Most notably, all the good characters are in the garbage tiers due to their statistics being dominated by the sudden influx of new players who have no idea what they're doing. This just goes to show, it's still way too early to be making tier lists.

At least the points gap is lower this time.

Super Smash Bros. for 3DS Unofficial Tier List II
			~	T	O	P		7	~
			1	2	3	4	5	6	7
			46.46	44.95	44.02	42.95	38.31	37.62	35.97
		HIGH
		8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16
		35.19	34.96	34.60	34.21	34.08	33.91	33.73	33.39	33.06
	MID+	MID
	17	18	19	20	21	22	23	24	25	26	27
	32.24	31.37	30.94	30.92	30.88	30.75	30.62	30.48	30.35	29.82	29.78
	LOW									LOW-
	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	35	36	37	38
	28.70	28.44	27.92	27.56	27.53	27.29	27.27	27.03	26.87	25.98	25.67
BOTTOM					BELOW		W	O	W	.	.	.
39	40	41	42	43	44	45	46	47	48	49	50	51
24.85	24.29	24.23	23.73	23.33	21.93	21.56	17.58	16.67	15.25	13.93	12.78	10.65

October 17th List

This is the first-ever NTSC List for Smash for 3DS. With its numerous ties, questionable character placements, and gross imbalance in points, let this prove once and for all that it is too early to make a decent tier list.

Super Smash Bros. for 3DS Unofficial Tier List I
			1		2		3		4	5
			70.32		63.89		50.00		43.06	43.05
6	7	8	9	10-11		12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19
40.00	39.82	39.02	38.85	38.41		37.78	37.68	37.35	36.29	36.11	36.06	35.74	34.97
20		21		22	23	24	25	26	27-28-29-30-31
33.61		31.67		29.16	29.07	28.78	28.40	28.27	27.78
			32	33	34	35	36-37		38	39
			26.26	25.05	25.00	24.88	23.61		23.33	21.96
40	41-42		43-44		45		46		47-48-49-50				51
20.37	18.89		16.67		14.45		11.11		5.56				2.78