Talk:Main Page/Archive 8

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In light of the recent vandalism

It seems creating spam/fake pages is a main method of attack by some vandals. We've seen it quite a lot, especially recently. And since our recent vandal has been constantly recreating those pages after creating more accounts one after another, I feel we need to combat this. One way that I could think of would be to restrict mainspace page creation to autoconfirmed and up, like some wikis are doing. Are there any other ideas? Feel free to discuss. Berrenta (talk) 16:38, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

I second this. I don't even know why we don't already do this. Air Conditioner ばか. 16:39, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

I'd support making mainspace page creation require autoconfirmation. Miles (talk) 16:40, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

I've posted on Porple montage's talk page about this. Toomai Glittershine The Interspacial 16:41, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

Given the user's predictable behavior patterns, I would assume that a range block should prevent him from recurring. Anothrgamer1234 (talk) 19:22, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

A range block isn't possible, as tommy barnes's IPs are all different and not remotely the same. Even if we could issue a range block against him, he'll just come back again. Rtzxy Smashing! 19:26, 14 September 2014 (EDT)

If there's any opposition to this, you should voice it now. Otherwise, I think we should put it into place for a month or two. Miles (talk) 17:22, 15 September 2014 (EDT)

The only opposition would be from tommy barnes. Do it. It'll help (to an extent, though). Rtzxy Smashing! <

Do it, it will at least stall him out for a week, sad to see many potential editors locked out, but at this point.... it's gotten too out of hand, this guy clearly doesn't have anything better to do than vandalize the wiki..... Laikue (talk|contribs) 17:26, 15 September 2014 (EDT)

Support. I know MarioWiki does this. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 17:29, 15 September 2014 (EDT)

Support Yeah...I think everyone here has seen why it's necessary at this point. Scr7(talk · contribs) 17:31, 15 September 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, I think it's time to put this into action if it is not already. I also think we should update our vandal policy, since recent changes is clogged to the brim with fruitless reverts Laikue (talk|contribs) 15:42, 22 September 2014 (EDT)

On this very page, I'm currently drafting an idea I have to combat this. I'll draft an actual policy if it gets enough support. Return of Air Conditioner Yuno best girl. 15:43, 22 September 2014 (EDT)

Okay, we better consider implementing the page creation restrictions I mentioned in the original post. With the potential traffic from the English release of Smash 4, as well as Tommy barnes returning, it is long overdue. Berrenta (talk) 15:00, 2 October 2014 (EDT)

I think that only some people should worry about Tommy Barnes. I haven't seen any of the things he's done (lucky me, I guess), but there are multiple people, myself included, who want this wiki to be as accurate as possible. And we can't really do that if everyone's ganging up on one guy. Granted, he has it coming; I'm not feeling sorry for the guy. But if everyone does one thing (and only one thing), then the other thing gets...too tedious to take care of. If people take care of the wiki, then Tommy Barnes has every opportunity to vandalize. If we take care of Tommy, then we end up frantically trying to catch up with information we missed. I say we split the burdens, 50-50. Aidan the Gamer 15:19, 2 October 2014 (EDT)

Maybe we could create some type of Anti-Vandalism task force or something. Or would the junior admins take care of things like that? Gpev96 (SHAZAM!) (talk) 08:59, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

We Need a trivia

At the bottom on bulbapedia they have one and they are usually interesting so why can't we have one, just curious --Reshiram1105 (talk) 08:38, 13 October 2014 (EDT)

If you mean trivia sections on articles, we have them on articles that have notable trivia... Try looking. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 08:40, 13 October 2014 (EDT)

I think he means trivia for Smash(Wiki), because this is the discussion for the main page. sigh, dont i Sparky need to get the phone back or a laptop! (Can't someone talk Smash to me on my talk page? Please click here!)

Dodge Cancelling

I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to technical moves in Smash, but this is a technique in Smash 3DS that has been getting some attention lately. Is it significant enough for it's own article or mentioning somewhere in the Wiki? Link Unknown the Hedgehog 11:11, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

I think it could do as a note on the airdodge page for now. Toomai Glittershine The Steppin' 11:15, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

Backround image

I know I am SUPER late for this, but a while ago there was conversation about changing the wiki's backround image. since then nothing is changed, but i've created my own wallpaper featuring all the series symbols on it. I was wondering if we could use it maybe? I haven't got an account, so how would i show you guys the wallpaper? 124.148.96.11 01:32, 25 October 2014 (EDT)

Wii U News

Since early copies are coming out, is the wiki going to be updated with new info? I know it's very scarce with who has new copies but I see myself mindlessly refreshing to see if any news is out. 67.231.167.113 20:59, 8 November 2014 (EST) BrittF

we're working on it Miles (talk) 21:21, 8 November 2014 (EST)

I'm sorry about many of my recent edits to the wiki.

I literally had a huge moment of stupidity.

MarioIsTheBest (talk) 19:29, 21 November 2014 (EST)

It's all right; everyone has those moments at one point. Rtzxy Reflect! 19:33, 21 November 2014 (EST)

Creating pages

Does anybody know why that new and anonymous users cant create pages for no reason? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.176.139.74 (talk • contribs) 20:05, 22 November 2014 (EST)

You need to be autoconfirmed in order to create pages. Rtzxy Reflect! 20:06, 22 November 2014 (EST)

Question

I really enjoy the information that comes from this wiki, but I must beg to ask: Why does SmashWiki make such a huge emphasis on competitive play? Wouldn't that be better for some kind of side project?

Thank you for answering. Beatle (talk) 18:28, 23 November 2014 (EST)

That's a simple answer: Smash Bros. has a huge and dedicated tournament scene. Competitive play takes up a huge part of the Smash community, so it would be wrong to not put a huge emphasis on competitive play on this wiki. Rtzxy Reflect! 18:31, 23 November 2014 (EST)

Who's Tommy

Who's is this Tommy Barnes guy? Is he the leader of the vandals or something cause I'm noticing users mentioning this person. And again, I'm going to read the SW:TALK again just to make sure if this is violating this policy. (Smashworker101 (talk) 22:12, 28 November 2014 (EST))

Deny vandals of recognition and infamy by not mentioning too much. Toomai Glittershine The Superlative 22:22, 28 November 2014 (EST)

P.S. You're safe: this, in no way, violates SW:TALK. Rtzxy Reflect! 22:31, 28 November 2014 (EST)

Semi-protection of Smash 4 articles...

...Should be removed by now. It's been over three months since 3DS' release in Japan, nearly three months since its release in the States, and over a month since SmashU's release. There's no personal speculation nor unverified claims to worry about anymore on these articles. Now it's about gathering information from the games to flesh these articles out, reviewing the accuracy of the printed information, and editing the pages in general, which IP contribution helps more here than preventing it does. Omega Tyrant 05:20, 31 December 2014 (EST)

I suggested here we do so on January 6th, the same day we'll remove the "recent release" template from everything. Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 08:39, 31 December 2014 (EST)

Wiki glitch?

Recently, a user has uploaded an image through the mobile version. As I looked at the file, there's no tab for editing/viewing history. Instead, there's a Create tab, so the wiki software may not have caught that it exists. The image in question is Trophy Rush WiiU.jpeg. Berrenta (talk) 11:58, 11 January 2015 (EST)

Going to history manually with http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Trophy_Rush_WiiU.jpeg&action=history says "There is no edit history for this page.". Kinda weird. Not sure what's up. Toomai Glittershine The Chilled 12:01, 11 January 2015 (EST)

Featured article

The snippet of the Knockback seems to be an older version of the page, should it be updated or a new one put in place? --Dinodomain (talk) 05:28, 22 January 2015 (EST)

Even these guys update their front page more often than we do...can't tell if that's good or bad. BlueStreak Speeds By 12:23, 22 January 2015 (EST)

so irked!

i keep seeing useless advertisements such as the one with the skateboarding dog and it's getting too repetitive. can you remove them? i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 16:22, 5 February 2015 (EST)

Shouldn't advertisements be disabled if you're logged in? Because I've seen ads all the time when not logged in, but they immediately go away whenever I log back in. Aidan the Aura Master 16:24, 5 February 2015 (EST)

that was a wierd glitchy moment i had. that must have caused for me what i call the "internet time travel" where whenever i tried going on a website, the dinosaur always appeared, but dad fixing the computer must have affected the glitch by fixing it. i'm Valehd the smashbro pro!(talk) 11:16, 1 March 2015 (EST)

April Fools Yesterday

The "Helping Out" section is still a bit filled with April Fools jokes from yesterday, and I can't seem to edit it out. SmashBros (talk) 10:53, 2 April 2015 (EDT)

Fixed. Toomai Glittershine The Aurum 11:42, 2 April 2015 (EDT)

Caõatuulûmqū mèyun ol-ûm-fádil!

Wālun! Kèirèmiiŷkaqí lį-derremįšun haamà ol-kuwawatšuna. Musaakbaoal, kureèmiiŷkaqã uwaál derremįšun ol-masmuūn eyn uhràfàfiiŷqî. Mamikeèn iiŷcaõatuulûmqö eyn kureèmiiŷqī? Kàtiišûmqū mèyun ol-ûm-fádil!

If not did you understand it that,

It meens it,

Helo! I looked it for artikels about the countris (I meens them, like the England, the Japan and the Libya). However, I finded it only artikels about the things that not do I nose it. Can does you help me that me finds them? Reply please! --Axaaçi Guláawiwún (talk) 19:46, 3 April 2015 (EDT)

...uuhhhh... This wiki doesn't have articles on countries, because it's about Smash Bros., not the world. I don't know what exactly you're looking for, because your English is (no offense) awful, and that language isn't recognized by Google Translate. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 19:52, 3 April 2015 (EDT)

Shukraänaikqë! Diįlwaa, ràfàfiiŷqî eyn ol-ŵebsiyt-dā maa nanaduhqî derremįšun ol-kuwawatšuna. Lāayāakïn, hòml "Smash Bros."? Da maa wûhûd wïkèpèdèa?

Thank you! Now, do I nose it that this websiyt not do have articles about the countries. Butt, what is "Smash Bros."? Not this a wikipedia? --Axaaçi Guláawiwún (talk) 20:14, 3 April 2015 (EDT)

It is a game that you can play. This is like Wikipedia, but it is about "Smash Bros." instead of everything. :) 72.152.70.243 20:18, 3 April 2015 (EDT)

IP Welcome Template

Am I missing something, or do we not have a Welcome template adjusted for anon's anymore? The normal template seems moreso geared towards Registered Users... Shouldn't we have a account recomendation template or something? Just an idea, that's all. ScoreCounter 15:06, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Anons who are contributing well should be encouraged to make an account. Miles (talk) 15:23, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Which is my point. That's... not happening as much as it prehaps should. I'm saying if we put the convenience there, then people might do it more often. ScoreCounter 15:30, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Wouldn't hurt to make a template like that, certainly. Feel free to throw a draft together. Miles (talk) 15:39, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Well, under an L2 heading:

Greetings, Traveller!

First things first, welcome to our wiki, and thanks for all the contributions you've made so far! As it's clear you want to make a constructive effort to improve the wiki, why not Create an account? Whilst it may seem a pretty trivial thing, having an account benefits you in multiple ways:

1. Identity. If you have a username, you become much more identifiable around the wiki, and it's much easier for people to identify you directly. Think of it as moving from being called "Hey, you!" to... well, whatever you want to be called! (But keep it clean!) Also, if you edit with multiple computers, say, at a library, it's much easier for anyone to tell who is editing.
2. Anonymity. Okay, that one seems odd, but there's a lot that can be found out from someone's IP address!
3. A User Page. You get a page all to yourself where (if you want) you can tell everyone whatever you want about yourself, like what characters you use a lot (or "Main" if you want to be technical), and other little things.
4. New Features. Even creating an account gives you some new tools, such as the move tool. You also get a watchlist, so you can keep an eye on any edits made to the pages you care about!
5. Personalisation. Don't like the way the Wiki looks? Or does the time zone seem a little bit off? Well, by creating an account, you can customise the way the Wiki works for you.

There's some other things, like being able to apply for Rollback, but, for now, why not jump in! Creating an account is free, and there's no strings attached - you can stop editing whenever you want. (But why would you want to do that?)

I'm looking forward to seeing you with an account!

~~~~

How about that? I've tried to find a middle ground between the Welcome template and the "Why create an account" page. ScoreCounter 16:10, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Not a bad start, although I might tweak a few things. I'll try to get around to a more final version in the near future. Miles (talk) 16:35, 8 April 2015 (EDT)

Featured Articles

How often are the featured articles swapped? It's been Knockback for a while. (I'm relatively new here, though I know MarioWiki swaps featured articles once every Saturday.) Andymii (talk) 20:26, 13 April 2015 (EDT)

I too think there should be a daily or weekly featured article swap. If you don't count april foolz where Riki came and invaded the base, it's probably been like that for AGES. --Jetfire77 (talk) 12:56, 15 May 2015 (EDT)

As has been said before, both Mariowiki and others are much bigger, and have many more featureworthy articles. We shouldn't just feature pages because of tradition - say, Wikipedia, only less than 0.1% of their articles are featured. In other words, we should have all of 2 featured articles ever, period. ScoreCounter 13:40, 15 May 2015 (EDT)

Icons

Just soooo many smash logos. Just look at it [1] . To be honest, it makes sense why we use smash icons, this wiki is ABOUT smash, but I have some ideas for alt. icons. For delete, use a Subspace Bomb, and speedy delete, use a detonated Subspace bomb. For protection, make it look more like shield. It's so close it gets on my nerves. Just my two cents (is that the proper term?). What do you think. 76.168.47.247 19:36, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

As this isn't a major concern, nor do many people support that idea, I don't believe it needs changed for the time being. F0rZ3r0F0r (talk) 18:55, 31 May 2015 (EDT)

Sudden Absence of Online PLayers

The number of Smash for Wii U players playing online sharply went from abundant to scarce around 10:30pm US Eastern on Sunday, May 24. When I checked again on Monday at about 11:45am, there was nobody online in the several minutes that I checked. I could not find any information online about this, but please consider adding information about it somewhere on the site if anyone knows more. I apologize if I am using the discussion page incorrectly. Thank you.

Servers were probably just down, Nintendo has been messing around a lot with he servers lately, so it doesn't surprise me, nor is it particularly notable or important to mention. Laikue (talk | contribs) 12:45, 25 May 2015 (EDT)

Timer for E3 2015?

Hi.

Uh, just making sure if everyone's aware of E3 this year. Also wanted to ask how to place the timer on the main page (the one used for the Nintendo Direct on April 2014) so that everyone knows how long til then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hylia's Eye (talk • contribs) 20:17, 3 June 2015 (EDT)

I don't personally think that we need a mainpage countdown for E3 this year. Toomai Glittershine The Yellow 23:08, 3 June 2015 (EDT)

If we get word that Smash is gonna be there (which I think it will, as there is no better time to announce Ryu), we should keep this in mind. Laikue (talk | contribs) 23:18, 3 June 2015 (EDT)

It's been confirmed that Smash will be at E3. They also stated that they would show off some "new content" to the game. Ryu, here we come! LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch. (talk) 14:14, 8 June 2015 (EDT)

Technically that's pre-E3. Although, a countdown to that wouldn't hurt. Countdown to the 14th anyone? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 14:24, 8 June 2015 (EDT)

CAPTCHA

The CAPTCHA still uses Brawl artwork. Will it be updated to use SSB4 artwork? RickTommy 03:36, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

No real reason to IMO. Serpent King (talk) 15:40, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

Sudden Burst of Activity

Whoa, what's going on here? Why is a lot of people online and what is up with the Statue Y being almost Status R? I haven't been on for a while and then suddenly, this happens. What's going on here? Falconpunch (talk) 17:58, 13 June 2015 (EDT)

Something TailsFan just wants to show you

New icon for my comments :P File:TailsFanIconForComments.jpgTailsFanFile:TailsFanIconForComments.jpg (talk)

Soooooo, what's the new NIWA wiki coming our way?

Title says all. 75.141.44.151 15:48, 1 July 2015 (EDT)

Even if you don't have an inkling what it might be, I suggest you just look forward to finding out this weekend. Miles (talk) 15:59, 1 July 2015 (EDT)

Oh I thought that's what it was. Thanks for the too-obvious hint Miles :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:03, 1 July 2015 (EDT)

Well, I thought the alphabetical order gave it away pretty clearly anyway...... Miles (talk) 16:09, 1 July 2015 (EDT)

What's with this?

I tried to go over to WiKirby, but it looks like the link is messed up. Maybe it's just my computer, but it looks a bit broken. What's happening here? LittleMacmain97, the World Circuit is mine! (Talk) 19:16, 2 July 2015 (EDT)

WiKirby is kind of notorious at this point for constant server problems. It's on their end, not yours. Miles (talk) 19:21, 2 July 2015 (EDT)

Dang, just when I was gonna make an account there. But my computer might be making the problem a little more inflated, because I happen to have the glitchiest computer ever. LittleMacmain97, the World Circuit is mine! (Talk) 19:23, 2 July 2015 (EDT)

DI Another Day

This coming August 2015, Perth (Australia) will be hosting it's first major Smash tournement ever. Melee, PM and Sm4sh will be played. They are expecting huge turnouts from National players. As this is pretty big stuff, are we going to cover this like other tournemnts? Here is a link:http://smashboards.com/threads/wa-di-another-day-perths-first-national-major.393873/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.194.73.202 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 12 July 2015 (EDT)

Big tournaments get pages, no reason to say otherwise. Toomai Glittershine The Brazen 18:00, 12 July 2015 (EDT)

Thank you for the info

Hey, I'm Andymii from the MarioWIki, and I'd just like to thank SmashWiki for providing all the necessary information for my special Article 100 issue for the 'Shroom (Wiki newspaper). It has been very helpful! --Andymii (talk) 14:08, 15 July 2015 (EDT)

Trophy Classification

I've been trying to help get the trophy info on pages that need it (i.e., the Jirachi and Groudon pages) and thought that instead of having each series having it's own page for each game, we could make them 1 article each. (i.e. a Pokémon trophy page, split into the three games.) I just feel there's a lot of useless disambiguation pages out there right now... AmoongussForLife (talk) 11:53, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

Some of the Smash 4 trophy pages alone are among the largest pages, so I'm inclined to disagree with this proposal. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 12:05, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

The very idea of these three pages being combined into one is frightening. Coding-wise it'd be a nightmare. Miles (talk) 12:34, 22 July 2015 (EDT)

Poll

You know how Mario Wiki does a poll on the front page every so often? Could we also do that? 75.141.44.151 12:56, 2 August 2015 (EDT)

Smash Ballot still open?

It's stated the Smash Ballot is closed, and yet I can still vote. Are they just not accepting the votes anymore, but leaving the ballot open? (Alex95 (talk) 13:43, 4 October 2015 (EDT))

I tried to vote again, it threw up a mostly blank page with an error message. The ballot is closed. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 13:45, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

Oh wow, never mind. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 13:46, 4 October 2015 (EDT)

I don't know who keeps saying it's closed, but the Smash Ballot is still open when I check it. (Alex95 (talk) 22:45, 5 October 2015 (EDT))

See here. Miles (talk) 22:56, 5 October 2015 (EDT)

Okay. I was able to get to it through our Downloadable content page, but now it's gone for good. And here I was hoping I could get some extra votes in... haha (Alex95 (talk) 13:20, 6 October 2015 (EDT))

My friend pointed this out to me

Nintendo has a private video on their Smash Bros playlist... Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 08:50, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

Definitely interesting. Not much SmashWiki will do about it though. It's not really newsworthy, nor pageworthy, nor... well, worthy. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 11:07, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

This has been debunked; the link and thumbnail reveal it's a commercial for SSB3DS from last year. Nothing of interest. Miles (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

Is it that one that leaked Ganondorf? I know that original video is unlisted. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 14:32, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

I think so, I am not sure why else Nintendo would make a private video on their playlist. Serpent∞King (talk) 15:08, 6 October 2015 (EDT)

Patches in SSB4

For fighter pages, is the "Changes from Brawl'' section supposed to show the changes after the most recent update or before any changes take place? I mentioned this in Sheik's talk page. -- Ethan7 (talk) 13:59, 3 December 2015 (EST)

It's after updates, I guess because that way it's more useful for comparing the two games. Zyrac (talk) 14:21, 3 December 2015 (EST)

Okay, Thanks! However, it seems very hard to have the data match up perfectly. Where is it agreed SmashWiki would do it this way? -- Ethan7 (talk) 15:27, 3 December 2015 (EST)

Someone get on this!

So a leaked build was just shown off recently for Project M, which was presumably in the works before the team disbanded. It includes new characters like Lyn from Fire Emblem, Knuckles from Sonic, and Isaac from Golden Sun. It is mostly unfinished, but I figured it'd be a great thing to look at and put on the PM page here.

Reddit link: https://www.reddit.com/r/NewPMDT/comments/3v6co7/dev_build_discovery_thread/ Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ-tipn-NCc

Through Reddit, it can be downloaded and put onto the Wii, so someone take a look at this and help the wiki (because I'm mostly incapable of doing it myself XP) (Alex95 (talk) 13:55, 23 December 2015 (EST))

I think we may have this mentioned already, and if not, this isn't notable enough to be on the main page.98.157.202.185 13:58, 23 December 2015 (EST)

We have mentioned it on the main Project M page. If there's anything more you have in mind, propose it on that page's talk page. Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 14:18, 23 December 2015 (EST)

Yeah, apparently this was old news and I'm always the guy who's late to the party. I only just found this myself, so... sorry. (Alex95 (talk) 22:34, 23 December 2015 (EST))

It's fine. Just check to see if we covered it first next time :P Nyargleblargle (Contribs) 22:37, 23 December 2015 (EST)

I just found the coverage as it was so small, I missed it. And there's no reference, either, so if someone wants to add one of the above links as a ref to it, you can. (Again, incapable of doing it myself. I suck at "wikiing." :P (Alex95 (talk) 01:03, 24 December 2015 (EST))

There is no reason to have anything more than a mention for a leak from an unofficial game that will never come out. Serpent King 01:05, 24 December 2015 (EST)

Secondaries

Do you feel for character pages' notable players there should be a section for people who secondary them? Chliu (talk) 21:15, 2 January 2016 (EST)

Absolutely not. Serpent King 21:19, 2 January 2016 (EST)

How come? Chliu (talk) 11:18, 3 January 2016 (EST)

Need GIFS

I've created a page on a Pit(too) tech i've dubbed armdashing. I'm hoping it can help aspiring Pit mains, but i need GIF's of the actual tech. If anyone could add some, that'd be great. Much love <3 Ganonmain (talk) 20:38, 7 January 2016 (EST)

This comment does not belong here. Instead, tag the article with {{video}} and ask for it on the talk page. Serpent King 20:58, 7 January 2016 (EST)

Holiday's are over, folks!

Sad, but true. Now, I know this really isn't necessary at all. But I figured since the new year is well on it's way, the message up top needs to go... It's like leaving up your tree through January.

RobSir zx 00:55, 8 January 2016 (EST)