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==Rename images==
==Rename images==
I think the names of <nowiki>[[:File:Fire Fox Brawl startup.jpg|this]]</nowiki> image, [[:File:Fire Bird Brawl startup.jpg|this]] image and  [[:File:Fire Bird Brawl launch.jpg|this]] image should be changed.--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol.png|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:orange">Star</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">Fox</span>]]''' 10:23, 5 June 2011 (EDT)
I think the names of <nowiki>[[:File:Fire Fox Brawl startup.jpg|this]]</nowiki> image, [[:File:Fire Bird Brawl startup.jpg|this]] image and  [[:File:Fire Bird Brawl launch.jpg|this]] image should be changed.--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:orange">Star</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">Fox</span>]]''' 10:23, 5 June 2011 (EDT)
:Alright then. In the future though, might be a better idea to post such on those images' talk pages. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Irrepressible 14:46, 5 June 2011 (EDT)
:Alright then. In the future though, might be a better idea to post such on those images' talk pages. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Irrepressible 14:46, 5 June 2011 (EDT)


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::Dr. Tornado shares a page with Mario Tornado, Electroshock Arm shares a page with Upperdash Arm, and Super Sheet shares a page with Cape. These are the ones I remember, but there may be more. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 12:18, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
::Dr. Tornado shares a page with Mario Tornado, Electroshock Arm shares a page with Upperdash Arm, and Super Sheet shares a page with Cape. These are the ones I remember, but there may be more. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 12:18, 25 September 2014 (EDT)
I agree that there should be a split for all moves with different names.[[User:Poweron721|Poweron721]] ([[User talk:Poweron721|talk]]) 11:27, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
I agree that there should be a split for all moves with different names.[[User:Poweron721|Poweron721]] ([[User talk:Poweron721|talk]]) 11:27, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
:'''Support''' It really makes the pages look cleaner, and less confusing. It's also better when you're looking for one move but it redirects to another. It's confusing to someone who might be new to the wiki. [[User:Roarmoocowz|Roarmoocowz]] ([[User talk:Roarmoocowz|talk]]) 19:28, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
:'''Oppose'''. There are a number of attacks that have different names but work exactly the same. We could cover Fire Bird a little more on this page but it's ridiculous to have pages for Dr. Tornado, Upperdash Arm, Super Sheet, etc. And would we split Gale Boomerang and Hero's Bow? They have different names too, so clearly they deserve a page, right? '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 11:37, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
:'''Oppose'''. There are a number of attacks that have different names but work exactly the same. We could cover Fire Bird a little more on this page but it's ridiculous to have pages for Dr. Tornado, Upperdash Arm, Super Sheet, etc. And would we split Gale Boomerang and Hero's Bow? They have different names too, so clearly they deserve a page, right? '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 11:37, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
::Falco Phantasm has it's own page, so I don't see the problem with Fire Bird and these other moves having separate pages too. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 13:34, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
::Falco Phantasm has it's own page, so I don't see the problem with Fire Bird and these other moves having separate pages too. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 13:34, 26 September 2014 (EDT)


:::Falco Phantasm doesn't deserve its own page either. If this doesn't pass, I'm going to put a merge tag on it. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 19:19, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
:::Falco Phantasm doesn't deserve its own page either. If this doesn't pass, I'm going to put a merge tag on it. '''[[User:Nutta Butta|...a new Nutta]]'''[[File:Nutta's Mallo sig.png]]'''[[User talk:Nutta Butta|is approaching...]]''' 19:19, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
::The moves are mostly cloned, but saying that the moves work "exactly the same" isn't quite accurate due to the different properties across each game they're both in. Also, having Fire Bird dumped at the bottom of Fire Fox's page can cause confusion for some people who may be searching for Fire Bird, as another user said before. The page layout is currently rather messy, and there's not much you can do to clean it up when it requires two separate galleries, etc. Likewise, having separate pages for moves like Dr. Tornado isn't ridiculous. And Hero's Bow/Gale Boomerang aren't really relevant because they're used by the same character. [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 20:26, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
'''Support''' I don't even know why the heck these two are combined in the first place despite being the same move visually but I can say there are some noticeable differences. Trust me. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Silent 20:07, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
Electroshock Arm was slpit, so I don't think there's any need for more discussion right now, since it's the same deal. Just split this page now. [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 15:54, 3 October 2014 (EDT)
:I've attempted to begin the split, but the redirect prevents me from doing that. Can someone point me in the direction of killing it?<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Phineas81707|contribs]]) 00:07, 8 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
:This disscussion hasn't come to an end yet. Since it seems most people support the split, can someone please split the page now? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Tepig|contribs]]) 14:44, 27 October 2014 (EDT)</small>
:Thank you for reminding me. I forgot to clean up my mess on the way out. [[User:Phineas81707]] [[User:Phineas81707|Phineas81707]] ([[User talk:Phineas81707|talk]]) 19:41, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
== Twisting Fox ==
Doesn't anyone else think Twisting Fox is (or can be) difficult to interrupt?
[[User:Yin10Dou|Yin10Dou]] ([[User talk:Yin10Dou|talk]]) 22:35, 11 October 2015 (EDT)Yin10Dou
== Something weird happened with Fire Fox ==
So, when I was playing Smash for th Wii U, an enemy Captain Falcon got a smash ball while standing right next to me, so I (stupidly) attempted to use Fire Fox to escape, but while I was floating there, being on fire, he used Blue Flacon. So I went flying, but as I was flying, ''I was still on fire''! This is probably just a graphical glitch, but I felt I should mention it.
:Try to recreate it. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:48, 13 September 2018 (EDT)
:: I went and tested this, and I can confirm it happens. I did not test it with Fire Bird or NES Zapper Posse though. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 18:44, 14 September 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:::Yes, what appears to be happening is that the graphical effects from the charging part of the move are not cancelled by the Blue Falcon hitting (although oddly enough the effect for the flying portion is correctly cancelled). If you use the Blue Falcon and Fire Fox at the same time, you can get the effect to carry over into the beginning part of the cinematic portion of the final smash. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 18:57, 14 September 2018 (EDT)
::::After further testing, it does not happen with Fire Bird or NES Zapper Posse. So, yeah I guess it was a graphical glitch, sorry for wasting your time. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 13:42, 15 September 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
== Fire Fox Origin ==
One possible origin for the Fire Fox/Fire Bird abilities is the anime franchise Science Ninja Team Gatchaman. In said anime, the teams main vehicle, the God Phoenix, has the Firebird, in which the whole ship is wreathed in flames. [[Special:Contributions/35.145.199.139|35.145.199.139]] 17:58, July 9, 2024 (EDT)
:Seems more so a coincidence to me. If it's not confirmed by any official source, it's just speculation. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:59, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 16:59, July 9, 2024

Rename images[edit]

I think the names of [[:File:Fire Fox Brawl startup.jpg|this]] image, this image and this image should be changed.--Wolf rulez! StarFoxSymbol.svg Star Fox 10:23, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

Alright then. In the future though, might be a better idea to post such on those images' talk pages. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Irrepressible 14:46, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

Split suggestion for Fire Bird[edit]

I added a split tag to the Fire Bird section because I think it deserves it's own page, since it has different customizaton options than Fire Fox. What do you guys think? Tepig (talk) 13:51, 24 September 2014 (EDT)

Supoort This honestly should have it's own page. Awesomelink234X-naut.PNG You rang, dude? 19:58, 24 September 2014 (EDT)
yes It having a different name than Fire Fox should be enough to warrant its own page. Are there any other special move pages that list two special moves of different names? Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 14:22, 24 September 2014 (EDT)
Dr. Tornado shares a page with Mario Tornado, Electroshock Arm shares a page with Upperdash Arm, and Super Sheet shares a page with Cape. These are the ones I remember, but there may be more. Tepig (talk) 12:18, 25 September 2014 (EDT)

I agree that there should be a split for all moves with different names.Poweron721 (talk) 11:27, 26 September 2014 (EDT)

Support It really makes the pages look cleaner, and less confusing. It's also better when you're looking for one move but it redirects to another. It's confusing to someone who might be new to the wiki. Roarmoocowz (talk) 19:28, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
Oppose. There are a number of attacks that have different names but work exactly the same. We could cover Fire Bird a little more on this page but it's ridiculous to have pages for Dr. Tornado, Upperdash Arm, Super Sheet, etc. And would we split Gale Boomerang and Hero's Bow? They have different names too, so clearly they deserve a page, right? ...a new NuttaNutta's Mallo sig.pngis approaching... 11:37, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
Falco Phantasm has it's own page, so I don't see the problem with Fire Bird and these other moves having separate pages too. Tepig (talk) 13:34, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
Falco Phantasm doesn't deserve its own page either. If this doesn't pass, I'm going to put a merge tag on it. ...a new NuttaNutta's Mallo sig.pngis approaching... 19:19, 26 September 2014 (EDT)
The moves are mostly cloned, but saying that the moves work "exactly the same" isn't quite accurate due to the different properties across each game they're both in. Also, having Fire Bird dumped at the bottom of Fire Fox's page can cause confusion for some people who may be searching for Fire Bird, as another user said before. The page layout is currently rather messy, and there's not much you can do to clean it up when it requires two separate galleries, etc. Likewise, having separate pages for moves like Dr. Tornado isn't ridiculous. And Hero's Bow/Gale Boomerang aren't really relevant because they're used by the same character. Scr7Scr7 sig.png(talk · contribs) 20:26, 26 September 2014 (EDT)

Support I don't even know why the heck these two are combined in the first place despite being the same move visually but I can say there are some noticeable differences. Trust me. Dots (talk) Link OoT Dots.PNG The Silent 20:07, 26 September 2014 (EDT)

Electroshock Arm was slpit, so I don't think there's any need for more discussion right now, since it's the same deal. Just split this page now. Tepig (talk) 15:54, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

I've attempted to begin the split, but the redirect prevents me from doing that. Can someone point me in the direction of killing it?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Phineas81707 (talkcontribs) 00:07, 8 October 2014 (EDT)
This disscussion hasn't come to an end yet. Since it seems most people support the split, can someone please split the page now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tepig (talkcontribs) 14:44, 27 October 2014 (EDT)
Thank you for reminding me. I forgot to clean up my mess on the way out. User:Phineas81707 Phineas81707 (talk) 19:41, 27 October 2014 (EDT)

Twisting Fox[edit]

Doesn't anyone else think Twisting Fox is (or can be) difficult to interrupt?


Yin10Dou (talk) 22:35, 11 October 2015 (EDT)Yin10Dou

Something weird happened with Fire Fox[edit]

So, when I was playing Smash for th Wii U, an enemy Captain Falcon got a smash ball while standing right next to me, so I (stupidly) attempted to use Fire Fox to escape, but while I was floating there, being on fire, he used Blue Flacon. So I went flying, but as I was flying, I was still on fire! This is probably just a graphical glitch, but I felt I should mention it.

Try to recreate it. Serpent SKSig.png King 20:48, 13 September 2018 (EDT)
I went and tested this, and I can confirm it happens. I did not test it with Fire Bird or NES Zapper Posse though. 72.133.91.93 18:44, 14 September 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
Yes, what appears to be happening is that the graphical effects from the charging part of the move are not cancelled by the Blue Falcon hitting (although oddly enough the effect for the flying portion is correctly cancelled). If you use the Blue Falcon and Fire Fox at the same time, you can get the effect to carry over into the beginning part of the cinematic portion of the final smash. Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 18:57, 14 September 2018 (EDT)
After further testing, it does not happen with Fire Bird or NES Zapper Posse. So, yeah I guess it was a graphical glitch, sorry for wasting your time. 72.133.91.93 13:42, 15 September 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Fire Fox Origin[edit]

One possible origin for the Fire Fox/Fire Bird abilities is the anime franchise Science Ninja Team Gatchaman. In said anime, the teams main vehicle, the God Phoenix, has the Firebird, in which the whole ship is wreathed in flames. 35.145.199.139 17:58, July 9, 2024 (EDT)

Seems more so a coincidence to me. If it's not confirmed by any official source, it's just speculation. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 17:59, July 9, 2024 (EDT)