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|<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed.
|<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed.
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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
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===Posting suggestions===
===Posting suggestions===
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.


===Voting and comments===
===Voting and comments===
*Don't vote for your own suggestion.
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
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*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.
*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.


===Acceptance or rejectance===
===Acceptance or rejection===
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
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*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary. Fights of more than three participants have to be exceptional in order to be selected, and will likely be reserved for special rounds, so don't try too hard to make one work.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.


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When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.


The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
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=Show Your Support=
=Show Your Support=
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[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
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===Comments===
===Comments===
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=Suggestions=


=Suggestions=
==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==


==[[Dark Cannon]] vs. [[Bullet Bill]]==
Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)
Both were used to try and take out the protagonists in The Subspace Emissary. They had the same principle, but worked very differently. But which is more popular? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 17:35, 22 April 2012 (EDT)


===Support===
===Support===
#I like it. Sounds good to me. [[User:Transdimensionalflux|Transdimensionalflux]] ([[User talk:Transdimensionalflux|talk]]) 17:43, 22 April 2012 (EDT)
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/140.182.166.11|140.182.166.11]] 11:03, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
#Hmmm...interesting...YES! '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">01</font>]]''' 11:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
 
===Oppose===
===Comments===
Do we have a file for the Dark cannon? Or are we going to use it's trophy?[[Special:Contributions/194.17.116.198|194.17.116.198]] 02:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
:Whether an image is available doesn't affect a suggestion's validity. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Bold 09:16, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


==[[Ridley]] vs. [[Meta Ridley]]==
Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)


The biggest threat to peace in the galaxy versus...himself? Is the incarnate who battles Samus and Pikachu in the Research Facility or the incarnate who chases down the Falcon Flyer to be feared more? ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 00:14, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105


===Support===
Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#I saw this coming, but I'll support. [[User:King KirbyD|<font color="Gold">'''King'''</font>]] [[User talk:King KirbyD|<font color="Pink">'''Kirby'''</font>'''D''']] [[File:KingKirbyD.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/King KirbyD]]  16:17, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
#If this hasn't happened yet, then it obviously has to. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 17:01, 25 April 2012 (EDT)
#To MegaTron1XD: Nostalgia factor could help. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 11:17, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#The oppose reasons here are bad. Ridley and Meta Ridley are different bosses with their own unique style. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#How does one fight a heavily modified superior version of yourself? <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 15:36, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
#What Mega said. '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Accoolx|<span style="color:darkgreen">Accool</span>]][[User talk:Accoolx|<span style="color:maroon">X</span>]]</span>''' [[File:Accoolx.png|19px]] 19:31, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#This was suggested before, and failed because what Mega said. <span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px gold; font-family:Elephant">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:green">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:white">'''•'''</span> [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Contribs.</span>]])</sup></span> 10:39, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
#Sorry. They are too similar. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:yellow">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue;">'''LBPeep'''</font>]] [[File:LB_Peep.png|15px]] 22:02, 7 May 2012 (EDT)


===Comments===
===Comments===
Good ieda, but battling himself...I'm '''neutral''' on this one. '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">01</font>]]''' 11:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)


Well, I think this would be viable, regardless of whether or not it is a being fighting a modified version of itself. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest, and rather than just voting Meta Ridley because it's more powerful, you can vote Ridley because you prefer its Boss Battle, or because you want him in SSB4. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 15:22, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)


==[[Fountain of Dreams]] vs. [[Green Greens]]==
===Support===
It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)


Which is the better of the buffed-in-''Brawl'' ball's bi-installment battlefields? [[User:King KirbyD|<font color="Gold">'''King'''</font>]] [[User talk:King KirbyD|<font color="Pink">'''Kirby'''</font>'''D''']] [[File:KingKirbyD.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/King KirbyD]] 20:56, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
 
===Support===


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#I fail to see any connection between these two stages other than that they belong to the [[Kirby (universe)|''Kirby'' universe]]. Why not do Halberd vs. Green Greens instead? Another issue: Fountain of Dreams only appeared in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee|Melee]]'', so it is not a "bi-installment" stage as claimed. [[User:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">Mousehunter321</font>]] <small>([[User talk:Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">talk</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/Mousehunter321|<font face="Calibri">contributions</font>]])</small> 21:15, 27 April 2012 (EDT)
I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105
#Incorrect description of the stage's relations. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 15:36, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
#The only similarity is that they are both Kirby stages, and there would be better fights to do than this if that is your only correct reasoning. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:09, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#Per the above three. '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">01</font>]]''' 11:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#One of these two stages against Dream Land would be a better matchup (one would be a match between two Kirbified "Battlefields", while the other would be a matchup between the stages with Whispy Woods). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


===Comments===
===Comments===


== [[Sonic (SSBB)|Sonic the Hedgehog]] vs. [[Pikachu (SSBB)|Pikachu]] ==
==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==
 
Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)


I don't believe that this matchup is queued. Traditionally, blue and yellow are used to represent lightning and also to represent speed (two examples: in pre-generation IV Pokemon games, Pokemon would glow blue when their speed was raised/lowered, and the hero Static Shock sports blue and yellow). Sonic and Pikachu are both known for their agility, have [http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/sonicpikachu.png/ lost weight] over the years (older Sonic kind of had a gut, older Pikachu was a lot more round), have similar Final Smash attacks, forward tilts, and forward aerials (though that's not too important), and they have close relationships with young male humans in their respective anime universes. Sonic's faster, but what Pikachu lacks in speed in comparison, he makes up for with powerful electric attacks, while Sonic is without an element. Which speedy hero has the edge? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 02:14, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
===Support===
===Support===
#Best and most creative suggestion on here. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:29, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
#By far, the most creative one. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 15:36, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
 
#Very creative. Didn't expect this one, but now it's up, so...YES! '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">01</font>]]''' 11:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#Why not? '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Accoolx|<span style="color:darkgreen">Accool</span>]][[User talk:Accoolx|<span style="color:maroon">X</span>]]</span>''' [[File:Accoolx.png|19px]] 19:36, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/199.185.67.18|199.185.67.18]] 11:48, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
#The Cheese says: I would ''REALY'' like this to happen, mainly because it's intresting, and I wanna see Sonic in the arena again! Sonic will '''DOMINATE!!''' [[Special:Contributions/75.31.4.16|75.31.4.16]] 12:10, 7 May 2012 (EDT) The Cheese 11:09 May 7 2012
#i think this would be real'''L'''y cool and i'd be interested to see who wins P.S I'm the only cheese around here and this wiki aint big enough for the both of us^^^ [[User:sonicsidekick95|<font color="blue">'''Sonic'''</font><font color="orange">'''sidekick'''</font>]][[User talk:Sonicsidekick95|<font color="blue">'''95'''</font>]] [[File:SonicHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 08:52, 15 May 2012 (EDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
===Comments===
===Comments===
Try to reduce the amount of words in this reasoning a little bit. Then maybe I, possibly along with others, will be more convinced. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 23:36, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
:Those others can read a whole paragraph. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:21, 29 April 2012 (EDT)


==[[Ness]] vs. [[Pokémon Trainer]]==
==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==


Two red capped heroes who are strong and silent, have control over many elements, and star in popular RPGs. Who beats who? [[Special:Contributions/24.168.107.113|24.168.107.113]] 09:20, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


===Support===
===Support===
#Good idea. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 10:49, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Ok <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 15:36, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
#''Mother'' and ''Pokémon'' are perhaps the most iconic RPGs represented in ''SSB''. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 15:55, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
#I can see this working, yes. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:09, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#Pokemon vs. Psychokenesis. '''YES!''' '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">01</font>]]''' 11:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#My two favorite games collide... '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Accoolx|<span style="color:darkgreen">Accool</span>]][[User talk:Accoolx|<span style="color:maroon">X</span>]]</span>''' [[File:Accoolx.png|19px]] 19:31, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/199.185.67.18|199.185.67.18]] 11:49, 1 May 2012 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/99.186.233.86|99.186.233.86]] 11:22, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
 
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Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105


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=={{SSB|Pikachu}} vs. {{SSBM|Fox}} vs. {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}==


The three top fighters in the Tier List! Who is the best? <span style="font-family:Andalus; font-size:12pt">[[User:Meta Ike|<font color="indigo">'''Meta''' </font>]]  [[User talk:Meta Ike|<font color="purple"> '''Ike'''</font>]]</span> [[File:MetaIke.png|34px]] 15:10, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
 
Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


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It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


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#Pikachu was no where near as difficult to beat as Fox and Meta Knight at the top of their metagames. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 15:36, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#Plus, we already had something like this less than 100 rounds ago. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 23:25, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
#Yeah, we've already had Fox (SSBM) vs. Meta Knight (SSBB). [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:09, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#Per Mega and Toast. '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">01</font>]]''' 11:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
# Read [[Tier List#Brawl tier list|this again]]. It is Meta-Knight, Olimar, and Diddy Kong. Besides Pikachu was never in the A tier in Brawl. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:yellow">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue;">'''LBPeep'''</font>]] [[File:LB_Peep.png|15px]] 22:06, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
#LB, this is regarding the number one character in each Smash game, not the top three in Brawl. As for the matchup itself, we already had Brawl MK matchup against Melee Fox, so adding Melee Fox into this is unneeded. Maybe just SSB Pika and Brawl MK instead? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
 
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Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


I get it. This suggestion can be removed. <span style="font-family:Andalus; font-size:12pt">[[User:Meta Ike|<font color="indigo">'''Meta''' </font>]]  [[User talk:Meta Ike|<font color="purple"> '''Ike'''</font>]]</span> [[File:MetaIke.png|34px]]  21:04, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==
 
==[[Pit]] vs. [[Devil]]==


The age-old battle between good and bad has come to the Smash Arena in its most classic form. Will the arrow-wielding angel or the satanic screen-scroller triumph? [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 23:37, 28 April 2012 (EDT)
3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)


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#Nice, that's very original. Some people won't approve of Character vs. Assist Trophy, but it's happened before. I sure support. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 05:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
Great Idea in my opinion.
#Kewl idea. YES! '''[[User:DarkFox01|<font color="black">Dark</font>]][[User talk:DarkFox01|<font color="darkred">Fox</font>]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|<font color="red">01</font>]]''' 11:44, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Cutest]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 13:51, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#That's actually not a bad idea... '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Accoolx|<span style="color:darkgreen">Accool</span>]][[User talk:Accoolx|<span style="color:maroon">X</span>]]</span>''' [[File:Accoolx.png|19px]] 19:31, 29 April 2012 (EDT)
#Definitely. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 11:23, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
#Unique idea. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
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==[[Yoshi's Story]] vs. [[Yoshi's Island (SSBB)]]==
==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==


While they do have a few differences, they are fairly similar as well. [[Special:Contributions/199.185.67.18|199.185.67.18]] 11:17, 30 April 2012 (EDT)
The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)


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#Don't listen to the oppose, Yoshi's Island brought many elements from Yoshi's Story over. Besides both stages being good tournament stages, they both have hurtable Shy Guys that fly in at random, carrying food, and a living platform that comes out at seeming random to save those falling to their doom. Not to mention, the nature of the stages are vastly identical, and it can be argued that Yoshi's Island is a successor of sorts to Yoshi's Story. However, both stages have their design differences to produce very different stages, with their own feels, and creating different strategies needed to win. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#I think they're similar enough. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
 
#^ What OT said ^[[Special:Contributions/204.191.138.146|204.191.138.146]] 18:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
 
The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
 
Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)


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#Sorry, but other than being tournament-friendly Yoshi stages, I don't see any similarities between the two stages. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 15:40, 30 April 2012 (EDT)


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*Now that I know the similarities the two stages have with each other, I'd withdraw my opposition...if I could. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 15:34, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
:You are free to change support/opposes on anything. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:47, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


==[[Wario Bike]] vs. [[Zero Laser]]==


Two special attacks that come with the side-effect of creating projectiles from machines breaking down. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 11:23, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
 
Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


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#Honestly, I can't see a final smash fighting a Side B. It's just rather unbalanced. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 15:52, 4 May 2012 (EDT)
This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#[[User:Stranger1260|<font style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman">'''Stranger</font>]] [[User talk:Stranger1260|<font style="color:green;font-family:times new roman">'''1260'''</font>]] [[File:Master_Ball.png|20px]] 06:02, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
 
#Maybe have Armor pieces against Tires instead? That's what it seems you're getting at, and in which case, having the moves involved that create them is unnecessary. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#Doesn't make any sense. Zero Laser will just win even if Wario is on a bike. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
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I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
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I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)


==[[Waluigi]] vs. [[Tingle]]==
They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)


The irritating Assist Trophies collide. The one being the hated Wario Brother. The other is infamous for expensive maps. Which weird-cladded anti-hero will finally victory?[[Special:Contributions/86.82.234.185|86.82.234.185]] 04:24, 5 May 2012 (EDT)
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==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
#A matchup between two bizarre characters that are generally regarded as scrappies in their series. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)
#Having thought about it, I guess it could work. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:50, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#Clever. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)  


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Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)


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==[[Mushroomy Kingdom]] vs. Mushroomy Kingdom (Alternate)==
No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
The World 1-1 and World 1-2 variants collide. But which barren wasteland takes your pick? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 06:27, 5 May 2012 (EDT)


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#I like this suggestion, it's pretty unique. [[User:King KirbyD|<font color="Gold">'''King'''</font>]] [[User talk:King KirbyD|<font color="Pink">'''Kirby'''</font>'''D''']] [[File:KingKirbyD.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/King KirbyD]]  07:49, 5 May 2012 (EDT)
#This suggestion is quite interesting. [[User:Stranger1260|<font style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman">'''Stranger</font>]] [[User talk:Stranger1260|<font style="color:green;font-family:times new roman">'''1260'''</font>]] [[File:Master_Ball.png|20px]] 06:05, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/204.191.138.146|204.191.138.146]] 22:29, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#Mushroomy Kingdom hasn't lost a match yet. It'd be interesting to see which part of it is responsible for its success. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 15:34, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


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== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==


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Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)


==[[Barrel Cannon]] vs. [[Slide Launcher]] vs. [[Minecart]]==
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I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)


The modes of transportation arrive at the Arena to clash each other. Which one is will leave the others stuck? [[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">'''Shupa'''</font><font color="blue">'''Roeh'''</font>]] 19:49, 6 May 2012 (EDT)
This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)


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Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
#That is quite special. [[User:Stranger1260|<font style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman">'''Stranger</font>]] [[User talk:Stranger1260|<font style="color:green;font-family:times new roman">'''1260'''</font>]] [[File:Master_Ball.png|20px]] 06:06, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
#I would say this is the best suggestion in a while. We never had a matchup involving these, nor any matchup regarding transportation. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#Yeah, while I shan't recall my former comment, I'll change my status to a '''Support''' [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:50, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
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Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
This is certainly an interesting idea, but is another one of those suggestions which really shouldn't be 3-way. If you could find a way to turn this into a 2-way fight (I would get rid of the Slide Launcher, personally), then I would support fully. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:42, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
:All three are transportation modes in SSE, there's no reason to leave any out in a matchup of those transportation modes. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


==[[Peach Parasol]] vs. [[Spin Attack]]==
Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
The two seemingly poorest recoveries come to be judged at Arena. Which is better than the other? [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:yellow">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue;">'''LBPeep'''</font>]] [[File:LB_Peep.png|15px]] 20:23, 6 May 2012 (EDT)


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==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==
#Peach Parasol certainly is not a poor recovery move. Link's Spin Attack, maybe, but Toon Link, no. Waterfall, Vine Whip, Mario's Super Jump Punch etc. They're bad recoveries. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 20:30, 6 May 2012 (EDT)
#Peach Parasol is one of the best recovery moves in both Melee and Brawl, and two recovery moves are going to need more than just being poor recoveries to be an interesting matchup. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#^, besides, Its not as Peach Parasol isn't as gimpable. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
===Comments===
Just noticed that Toast. Gonna try again next round. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:yellow">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue;">'''LBPeep'''</font>]] [[File:LB_Peep.png|15px]] 22:01, 7 May 2012 (EDT)


==[[Smasher:Mew2King|Mew2King]] vs. [[Smasher:Izaw|Izaw]]==
Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
One is a smasher who was acclaimed as the number one brawler, he mained the top tier Meta Knight, he was caught splitting with [[ADHD]] humiliating the brawl competitive community and he quit brawl as soon as Meta Knight was banned.
The other is a YouTuber who grew popularity for maining his favourite character Link and showing us that anyone can be used to a great potential. Who is the better brawler?!--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif‎ ]] 20:40, 6 May 2012 (EDT)


===Support===
===Support===
* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#For a "villainous tier whore top smasher" vs. "smasher good guy that's a low tier hero" matchup, there are much better Brawl choices than Izaw (such as {{Sm|Vermanubis}} and {{Sm|San}}, the latter's efforts single handily bringing Ike out of low tier). For what you said on IRC of it being "top tournament guy vs. Youtube guy", I see no point in such a matchup. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#As before, if people don't have competitive knowledge, they can't vote on this. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:50, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#Plus, I don't think user matches should be in the Smash Arena. Smash Arena matches should be for things inside the game, not outside it. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 15:34, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


===Comments===
===Comments===


==[[Mew]] vs. [[Celebi]] vs. [[Jirachi]]==
==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==


All are pokémon that can only be obtained through an event in the game ''Pokémon'', and it all summons different items to appear in Brawl. They also only have a chance of 1/493 to appear in Brawl. Which poké ball pokémon do you like the best? [[User:Stranger1260|<font style="color:blue;font-family:times new roman">'''Stranger</font>]] [[User talk:Stranger1260|<font style="color:green;font-family:times new roman">'''1260'''</font>]] [[File:Master_Ball.png|20px]] 06:20, 7 May 2012 (EDT)
All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020


===Support===
===Support===
#Matchup makes sense, all three fit the same role among pokeball Pokemon. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#Forgot to support this earlier, it obviously needs to happen. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:50, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#We've had plenty of legendary Pokemon battles. Seeing a different kind of Pokemon battle would be a nice change. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 15:34, 14 May 2012 (EDT)


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==[[Mario]] vs. [[Luigi]]==
==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==
One is red. The other is green. They fought 100 rounds ago in the Arena, and today their destined rematch begins. Who will come out on top this time? [[Special:Contributions/81.141.68.50|81.141.68.50]] 04:47, 8 May 2012 (EDT)
 
Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020


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===Support===
#It will be funny to watch mario lose [[User:sonicsidekick95|<font color="blue">'''Sonic'''</font><font color="orange">'''sidekick'''</font>]][[User talk:Sonicsidekick95|<font color="blue">'''95'''</font>]] [[File:SonicHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 08:46, 15 May 2012 (EDT)


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===Oppose===
#Mario got curbstomped by Luigi last time, and seeing Luigi's Smash Arena dominance continue with the newest SmashWiki generation, Mario is going to just get curbstomped again, probably even worse. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:14, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
 
#The only fight I ever wanted to be repeated was Mewtwo vs. Lucario, and that happened <small>with Blue Ninjakoopa killing the second tie</small> [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:50, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Pylon]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 09:23, 14 May 2012 (EDT)
===Comments===
===Comments===
*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)

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Forums: Index → Smash Arena → Smash Arena Suggestions


An icon used in notice templates. NOTE: Smash Arena is now on our Discord. Please take your suggestions there.

This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules[edit]

Posting suggestions[edit]

  • Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
    • Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
  • If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
  • Check this list to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred 100 or more rounds ago. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
  • Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week (i.e. one every seven days).
  • Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
  • Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page.
  • You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
    • If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk probation.
  • Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.

Voting and comments[edit]

  • Don't vote on your own suggestion.
  • Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
  • The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
  • Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
  • Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.

Acceptance or rejection[edit]

  • The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
  • Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
  • Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
    • In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
  • If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
  • Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.

Tips[edit]

  • In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
  • Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
  • While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
  • Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
  • The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.

Queue[edit]

The current queue is as such:

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

Show Your Support[edit]

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Template[edit]

To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts: 

==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

===Support===

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===Comments===

Suggestions[edit]

Rosalina vs. Bowser Jr.[edit]

Two of the newest characters from the Mario universe makes it into SSB4. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century Mario? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)

Support[edit]

I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! Crazy456Rhino (talk) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)

Sounds like fun! Let's try it! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105

Kind of an obvious one. TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

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Bowser vs. Bowser Jr.[edit]

It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two Mario universe enemies? Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

It would be en epic koopa battle. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)

Sure, why not? TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Oppose[edit]

I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105

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Villager vs. Rosalina[edit]

Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? 72.133.91.93 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)

Support[edit]

A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)

This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th

Oppose[edit]

I don't really get the connection. TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

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Wendy vs. Lucina[edit]

The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

A nice matchup in my favor. Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Oppose[edit]

Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? 72.133.91.93 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105

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Lakitu & Spinies vs. Hammer Bro.[edit]

Two Assist Trophies from the Mario series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. 72.133.91.93 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Oppose[edit]

Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 Smash games and now, there are more Mario based assists. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

Comments[edit]

Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. 72.133.91.93 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Mario Circuit (SSB4) vs. Rainbow Road[edit]

3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from Mario Kart battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, the other is from Mario Kart 7. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

Great Idea in my opinion. CaptainDabsalot Or The SavageCow 6/22/18 11:04 CST

ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

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Daisy vs. Inkling vs. Ridley[edit]

The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... hasn't something like this been done before? infernape612 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

I mean... yeah. TheNuttyOne 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... 72.133.91.93 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

The only time such matchup is valid. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

Love it! That one is going to be awesome! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

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Kirby Vs. Jigglypuff[edit]

Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, Kirby or Jigglypuff. 72.133.91.93 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

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This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)

Comments[edit]

I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. 72.133.91.93 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Cloud Strife Vs. Solid Snake[edit]

While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --Myth Myth Kirby.png 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an Ultimate character, then I found out Cloud was in SSB4. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)

They are great characters in both Smash 4 and Ultimate so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is Final Fantasy VII, while Metal Gear Solid is Snake's first game. Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

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Battlefield Vs. Big Battlefield[edit]

Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --Myth Myth Kirby.png 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)

Support[edit]

Not a bad idea. Everone123 (userpage • talk • contribs) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)

Oppose[edit]

No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --JackyBlooo (talk) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)

Comments[edit]

Luigi's Mansion vs. Dracula's Castle[edit]

Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --JackyBlooo (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)

Support[edit]

I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --Myth Myth Kirby.png 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)

This is my kind of battle! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)

Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. George Jones.jpg Corrin Fan Walls Can Fall.jpg 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)

Seems like a fun idea. Crazy456Rhino (talk) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)

Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat. Supα Toαd 64, The Best MK64ToadCSP.jpg 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)

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Bayonetta vs. Joker[edit]

Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? Crazy456Rhino (talk) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)

Support[edit]

  • Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. Derekblue1SigHead1.png Derekblue1 (talk) Derekblue1SigHead2.png 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)

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Mario vs. Donkey Kong vs. Pacman[edit]

All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? Met3oR (talk) 22:17, April 13, 2020

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Pikachu vs. Lucas[edit]

Both have the power of Thor. Met3oR (talk) 14:38, May 09, 2020

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  • Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
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