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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
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=Rules=
=Rules=
*The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
===Posting suggestions===
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.  
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.
 
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
===Voting and comments===
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
*The comments section is to be used for '''relevant''' comments.
*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occured '''100 rounds ago'''.
 
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once.
===Acceptance or rejection===
*In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
*And finally, '''do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.
**In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
*Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.
 
=Tips=
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.


=Queue=
=Queue=
The current queue is as such:
The current queue is as such:
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|style="background:#ffffff;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="current round">''100''</span>
|style="background:#00ff40;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="26/08/11">101</span>
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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.
Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.


When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.


The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
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===Comments===
===Comments===
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=Suggestions=
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==Princess Peach's Castle vs. Castle Siege==
==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==


Two castles from Super Smash Bros. History are valued against each other! Which one will prevail? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:Swadloon Sprite.jpg|30px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 05:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
#I guess it could work. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
#Both are castles.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 10:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#um... yeah. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
#I like this one. They're good stages that fit together well. '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#Why not? They're both castles. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 15:16, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105
#Sure, why not? [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#My only question is: which Peach's Castle, the Melee one or the 64 one? [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#Eh, not really similar. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:16, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


===Comments===
===Comments===


==Luigi vs. Wario==
==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)


Well, since Mario vs. Wario and Mario vs. Luigi have been done, this will complete the circle. Besides, they're using overalls! [[Special:Contributions/206.53.148.144|206.53.148.144]] 06:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
===Support===
It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)


===Support===
Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Both are spinoffs of Mario. You see a brief interaction between Wario and Luigi in SSE. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#The reason in the oppose is stupid. '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Um, they actually do have a relationship, as said in Wario Land 4's website. (don't bother going there, it doesn't exist anymore.) Other than that, per all. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#Mario is Lugi's brother. Wario is Mario's opposite. Luigi is nothing to Wario. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105
#Above.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 10:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#above. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Above. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 15:16, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Above the first person who said above. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#B-b-b-breaker combo. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 17:43, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Nah.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


===Comments===
===Comments===


==[[Link]] vs. [[Luigi]]==
==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==


This is a bad fight, but both are green, both are heroes, and they haven't fought yet! [[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:39, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)


===Support===
===Support===
#GREEN.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 10:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
#They ARE one possible combination of teams in ''Melee<nowiki>'</nowiki>s'' Classic Mode. Reckon it could work. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 11:19, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#Lol ReiDemon '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th
#Not only both green, but also their names both begin with L. [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#Just don't like it. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#like you said. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/.....|contribs]]) </small>
#Yeah, they're both green, and, well... That's about it. I'm pretty sure every time Luigi's the hero besides Luigi's Mansion it's non-canon. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 15:13, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#How about no. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


===Comments===
===Comments===
Who are you, vote #2 for oppose? --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 11:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:yes I know, my first unsigned post. Please forgive me. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 13:48, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:<s>That was completely uneccessary. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 13:55, 20 August 2011 (EDT)</s>
:Oh nevermind. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 13:56, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


==[[Falco]] vs. [[Wolf]]==
==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==


Basically the same as the Fox vs. Wolf thing. '''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#00006E>P</font><font color=#0000A5>S</font><font color=#0000DC>I</font><font color=#0000FF>W</font><font color=#0037FF>o</font><font color=#006EFF>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>E</font>]]) 10:12, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


===Support===
===Support===
#Well, it's just like, completing the circle thingy, and I support! [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 10:19, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 10:23, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Hasn't this been suggested before? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Sure '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I don't see why not. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#^^^-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#Just don't see their relationship. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 11:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
#Per above comment. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 11:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Per comment above comment above. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 15:14, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


===Comments===
===Comments===
@SD: I don't know, but if it was, it can be suggested again right?--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 10:33, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:Failed suggestions are allowed to be reposted, though it is discouraged. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:37, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::So it was suggested before?--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#00006E>P</font><font color=#0000A5>S</font><font color=#0000DC>I</font><font color=#0000FF>W</font><font color=#0037FF>o</font><font color=#006EFF>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#FF0000>E</font>]]) 10:38, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:::To my knowledge, no. But regardless of whether it was suggested previously or not, you can make this suggestion as it is not a matchup that occurred in the past 100 rounds, or was just recently taken down from suggestions to be added or rejected from the queue. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:48, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


::::@Opposing people: I understand the opposing, but I did this because they're both from the Star Fox universe, and Falco is from the Star Fox team and Wolf from the Star Wolf team. And in ''Brawl'', they have similar special moves.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 11:21, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
:::::I can see where you're coming from, but in the case of the former, Falco and Wolf really have no significance to each other in any of the games, except for the fact that they're on rival factions. Wolf seems a closer rival to Fox because of his shady past with Fox's father, James, but he doesn't seem to have much to do with Falco. For the latter point, while they are similar, the differences between their reflectors make them less of clones of each other than Fox and Wolf. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 12:12, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


== [[Roy]] vs. [[Mewtwo]] ==
Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
They were both removed from Melee to Brawl, and they were both kinda replaced by slightly similar characters(plus they were both awesome lol). Seems about time they duke it out in the Smash Arena. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 10:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


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#Yeah.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 10:49, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#sure. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 10:53, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#No one really cares that Pichu, Young Link and the Doc got kicked out, but mention either Roy or Mewtwo and you'll get a different response. I'd like to see which people like best. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 15:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#These guys are the most popular removed characters. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:30, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


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#Mewtwo was not "replaced" by Lucario, and they are far from being similar. The same can be said about Roy and Ike. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:49, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#Meh, Nah '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#"Well, both of them are loved at the same time by lots of people, so they won't know who to vote for." says my system. So I oppose. Per all. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#What OT said. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
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Maybe it's just me, but I think a five way battle between Dr. Mario, Mewtwo, Roy, Pichu and Young Link would be a more interesting idea. Also, what Omega said. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 11:00, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:You know something? You're both right. I'm kinda dumbfounded now. Oh well. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 11:03, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::Are you allowed to suggest fights with multiple combatants? If you can, suggest that. I'd vote for it. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 22:51, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:::I think Toomai comes up with those, and uses them only for special occasions. '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 22:57, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:I suggested such a fight last time suggestions were open. I was disappointed that it didn't make it as #100. Maybe it'll be used in late November to commemorate the 10th anniversary of Melee's release? [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


==[[All-Star Rest Area#In Super Smash Bros. Melee|All-Star Rest Area]] (''Melee'') vs. [[All-Star Rest Area#In Super Smash Bros. Melee|All-Star Rest Area]] (''Brawl'')==
==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==


In both ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', the All-Star Mode is one of the longest and most arduous fights one can take. Nintendo, however, was generous enough to allow one to rest between battles, in areas far away from harm. But which areas provides the best sense of safety and rest to the player? ''Melee<nowiki>'</nowiki>s'' incarnation or ''Brawl<nowiki>'</nowiki>s'' incarnation? ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 11:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)


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# Interesting idea, and both have their own atmosphere. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:51, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Great Idea in my opinion.
#yah. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 13:49, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST
#<nowiki>:)</nowiki> Per all. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I support this [[User:Jacobdf11|- Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw]] ([[User talk:Jacobdf11|talk]]) 19:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 14:06, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
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#They're really way too similar to merit a fight, IMO. >_> [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 11:29, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Um, what? '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 11:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#They're just stupid places where you do nothing. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Far too similar. [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


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==[[Pokemon Stadium]] vs. [[Pokemon Stadium 2]]==
==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
The original vs the successor. [[Special:Contributions/66.222.171.225|66.222.171.225]] 12:14, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)


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#This hasn't been done yet?!?!? O_O '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 12:24, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#At first, I was like, "Stupid IP, this has been done before." But then I was like, "Oh WTF, this hasn't been done before?!". ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 12:29, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#Holy cheese this needs to be done. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 12:34, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#yah. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 13:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#1337!--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 14:44, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#This needs to be done. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 15:11, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#[[Falcon Dive|YESH!]] This needs to be done! --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
#I suggested this before but it was opposed a lot. So, yeah. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Heck yes.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#Per Dr. Pain. [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


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#They aren't really different. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 18:00, 20 August 2011 (EDT)


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==[[Sandbag]] vs. [[Home Run Bat]]==


In the same vein as Mario vs. Wario. Who will win, the punching bag or the weapon that hits it? --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 15:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
 
Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


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#Interesting, the smacker or the one who gets smacked. Huh. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 15:46, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Victim vs. Assaulter. How original. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 16:06, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#the hitter vs. the hit. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 16:07, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#<nowiki>:</nowiki>O '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 16:31, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Will be a fun battle. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:41, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Heck yesh <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 13:15, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
# [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#FINALLY. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 23:18, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


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#Kinda imbalanced. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:24, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)


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I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


==[[Eruption]] vs. [[Flare Blade]]==
==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)


The Standard Special Moves of Two Fire Emblem Characters that use fire. One is from Brawl, the other is from Melee. Which packs more explosive punch? '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 17:51, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)


===Support===
They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
#<font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 17:59, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#Both are their games' only non-final smash OHKO that is not through countering or absorbing. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 18:00, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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#Yes. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 19:38, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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#I'm not really a Fire Emblem fan myself, but this is interesting. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 20:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 22:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
#☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:54, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)
#It could work.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
 
# [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
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Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)
 
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No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
 
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== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==
 
Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)
 
=== Support ===
I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)
 
This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)
 
Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
 
Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)


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Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)


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==[[WarioWare Inc.]] vs [[Pictochat]]==
==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==


The two stages that change and morph to either help or hurt players. [[User:Jacobdf11|- Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw]] ([[User talk:Jacobdf11|talk]]) 19:04, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)


===Support===
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#I actually like this one. The two stages have good obstacles that you can either use to your advantage or they can bite you in the butt. '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 20:18, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
#We did Icicle Mountain vs whatever that donkey kong stage that scrolls up in Brawl was called because they both move. Why not these because they both morph? --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 22:56, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I like it. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:54, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


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#No similarities whatsoever. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 19:30, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Rather different in pretty much every way yeah. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 19:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 22:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
# Not very similar. [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


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== Bowser vs Donkey Kong ==
==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==


Both are rivals of Mario, and have each been the heaviest character of a Smash game. However, one fights for good, while the other is evil. Both were made more "realistic" for Brawl, with Bowser given dinosaur-like roars and Donkey Kong given gorilla-like shouts. Both have an up special that involves spinning around. What else? Oh, both have an unsettled relationship in Subspace Emmisary (they were prepared to fight, but DK's protective instinct towards Diddy interfered). [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:39, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020


===Support===
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#I can see it now. The King Kong vs. Godzilla battle, unfolded in the Arena. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 20:42, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#What 107.5.57.137 said.  '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 20:45, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Turtle versus Gorilla? I like. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 20:57, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|lolz]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Airbore]] 22:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:54, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#King Kong vs Godzilla = win. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 13:32, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
# [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


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===Comments===
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Uhh...there's no neutral in suggestions. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 20:47, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:Although commenting neutral in a policy discussion is useful as it provides some more information to go off of when final decisions are made, voting neutral is quite useless here as it won't influence the final result which is what I believe to be a simple vote count.  '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 22:27, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::No, it's not a simple vote count. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Steppin' 23:14, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Even though it's not, there is still no reason to have a neutral. '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:15, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::::Why don't we just remove that section? --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:02, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


==Mario vs Kirby==
==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==
Thes two guys have something on their own related with the ssb series, such as their creators and their similarities on their own games and un fhe opening of ssb  they are in a fight. They havelots of things to be fought and tjings in common. Mario as the mascot of Nintendo and Kirby as the one that have the biggest role, plus having the same creator of SB[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">>_>'''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''OH MY PORK!''']][[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 11:45, 21 August 2011 (EDT)


===Support ===
Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020
#I'm surprised this hasn't been done already. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:52, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#Why not? --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 13:32, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#Very surprising, as they have been rivals since the first SSB.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 13:42, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
# The first battle of the SSE. [[User:Dr. 8-Bit|Dr. 8-Bit]] ([[User talk:Dr. 8-Bit|talk]]) 15:58, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#Read my comment on Pokémon Stadium vs. Pokémon Stadium 2 '''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>Ƌ<font color=#FF0037>o<font color=#FF006E>ӄ<font color=#FF00A5>ԏ<font color=#FF00DC>o<font color=#FF00FF>яΠ</font>ɛ</font>ə</font>и</font>9</font>9</font>]]''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 18:24, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#I am shocked and astounded that this has not been done yet. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 21:57, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
#APPROVAL [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 02:28, 22 August 2011 (EDT)
#I could have sworn it was done before. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:19, 22 August 2011 (EDT)


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===Oppose===


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Done before? Rly? Which fight? Ó.ò [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">>_>'''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''OH MY PORK!''']][[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 12:16, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
:I'm pretty sure it was one of the early fights. You should check the archives. But I do know for a '''fact''' that it has been done before. Maybe you can propose this a bit later. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:34, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
::i check thrice before I suggest,.and now I check ot again... Nope I dont think so[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">>_>'''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''OH MY PORK!''']][[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 12:36, 21 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Oh wow, you are correct. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:51, 21 August 2011 (EDT)

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Forums: Index → Smash Arena → Smash Arena Suggestions


An icon used in notice templates. NOTE: Smash Arena is now on our Discord. Please take your suggestions there.

This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules[edit]

Posting suggestions[edit]

  • Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
    • Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
  • If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
  • Check this list to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred 100 or more rounds ago. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
  • Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week (i.e. one every seven days).
  • Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
  • Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page.
  • You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
    • If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk probation.
  • Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.

Voting and comments[edit]

  • Don't vote on your own suggestion.
  • Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
  • The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
  • Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
  • Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.

Acceptance or rejection[edit]

  • The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
  • Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
  • Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
    • In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
  • If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
  • Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.

Tips[edit]

  • In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
  • Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
  • While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
  • Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
  • The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.

Queue[edit]

The current queue is as such:

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Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

Show Your Support[edit]

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Template[edit]

To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts: 

==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

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===Comments===

Suggestions[edit]

Rosalina vs. Bowser Jr.[edit]

Two of the newest characters from the Mario universe makes it into SSB4. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century Mario? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)

Support[edit]

I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! Crazy456Rhino (talk) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)

Sounds like fun! Let's try it! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105

Kind of an obvious one. TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

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Comments[edit]

Bowser vs. Bowser Jr.[edit]

It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two Mario universe enemies? Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

It would be en epic koopa battle. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)

Sure, why not? TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Oppose[edit]

I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105

Comments[edit]

Villager vs. Rosalina[edit]

Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? 72.133.91.93 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)

Support[edit]

A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)

This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th

Oppose[edit]

I don't really get the connection. TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Comments[edit]

Wendy vs. Lucina[edit]

The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? TheNuttyOne 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

A nice matchup in my favor. Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Oppose[edit]

Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? 72.133.91.93 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105

Comments[edit]

Lakitu & Spinies vs. Hammer Bro.[edit]

Two Assist Trophies from the Mario series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. 72.133.91.93 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Oppose[edit]

Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 Smash games and now, there are more Mario based assists. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

Comments[edit]

Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. 72.133.91.93 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Mario Circuit (SSB4) vs. Rainbow Road[edit]

3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from Mario Kart battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, the other is from Mario Kart 7. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

Great Idea in my opinion. CaptainDabsalot Or The SavageCow 6/22/18 11:04 CST

ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

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Comments[edit]

Daisy vs. Inkling vs. Ridley[edit]

The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... hasn't something like this been done before? infernape612 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

I mean... yeah. TheNuttyOne 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... 72.133.91.93 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

The only time such matchup is valid. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

Love it! That one is going to be awesome! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

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Comments[edit]

Kirby Vs. Jigglypuff[edit]

Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, Kirby or Jigglypuff. 72.133.91.93 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

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This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)

Comments[edit]

I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. 72.133.91.93 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105

Cloud Strife Vs. Solid Snake[edit]

While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --Myth Myth Kirby.png 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)

Support[edit]

I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an Ultimate character, then I found out Cloud was in SSB4. ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)

They are great characters in both Smash 4 and Ultimate so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is Final Fantasy VII, while Metal Gear Solid is Snake's first game. Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

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Comments[edit]

Battlefield Vs. Big Battlefield[edit]

Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --Myth Myth Kirby.png 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)

Support[edit]

Not a bad idea. Everone123 (userpage • talk • contribs) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)

Oppose[edit]

No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --JackyBlooo (talk) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)

Comments[edit]

Luigi's Mansion vs. Dracula's Castle[edit]

Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --JackyBlooo (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)

Support[edit]

I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --Myth Myth Kirby.png 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)

This is my kind of battle! Dragonfirebreath25 (talk) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)

Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. George Jones.jpg Corrin Fan Walls Can Fall.jpg 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)

Seems like a fun idea. Crazy456Rhino (talk) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)

Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat. Supα Toαd 64, The Best MK64ToadCSP.jpg 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)

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Comment[edit]

Bayonetta vs. Joker[edit]

Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? Crazy456Rhino (talk) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)

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  • Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. Derekblue1SigHead1.png Derekblue1 (talk) Derekblue1SigHead2.png 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)

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Mario vs. Donkey Kong vs. Pacman[edit]

All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? Met3oR (talk) 22:17, April 13, 2020

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Pikachu vs. Lucas[edit]

Both have the power of Thor. Met3oR (talk) 14:38, May 09, 2020

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  • Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. CookiesCnC Signature.pngCreme 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
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