Cloud (SSBU)/Down special: Difference between revisions

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Hitbox visualization showing Cloud's Limit down special, Finishing Touch, when used on the ground.

Hitbox visualization showing Cloud's Limit down special, Finishing Touch, when used in the air.

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Overview[edit]

Update history[edit]

2.0.0

Finishing Touch has more range at its beginning (Y offset: 20u-16u → 20u-11u).

7.0.0

Limit Charge has a faster charge rate (units/frame: 0.25 → 0.3).

13.0.1

Finishing Touch has less startup, with FAF compensated (grounded/aerial: 14/16 → 12/14, FAF grounded/aerial: 87/90 → 85/88).

Hitboxes[edit]

Finishing Touch (grounded)[edit]

*Because of a frame speed multiplier, the early hit never actually comes out.

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Sound	Hit bits	Hit part
Early hit*
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	60	431	0	10.0	top	0.0	10.0	13.0 to 9.0	2.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
Mid hit
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	60	431	0	8.0	top	0.0	20.0 to 11.0	9.0 to 10.0	2.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
Late hit
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	60	406	0	7.0	top	0.0	22.0	-2.0 to -8.0	2.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
Latest hit
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	60	406	0	8.0	top	0.0	16.0 to 10.0	-11.5 to -11.0	2.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
Windbox
0	0	0	0.0%	0	Standard	0	100	80	13.0	top	0.0	15.0	16.0 to -16.0	0.0×	1.0×	0%	None	All	All

Finishing Touch (aerial)[edit]

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Sound	Hit bits	Hit part
Early hit
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	60	371	0	10.0	top	0.0	10.0	13.0 to 9.0	2.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
Mid hit
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	60	371	0	8.0	top	0.0	20.0 to 11.0	9.0 to 10.0	2.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
Late hit
0	0	0	1.0%	0	Standard	60	349	0	8.0	top	0.0	16.0 to 10.0	-11.5 to -11.0	2.0×	1.0×	0%	Punch	All	All
Windbox
0	0	0	0.0%	0	Standard	0	86	80	13.0	top	0.0	15.0	16.0 to -16.0	0.0×	1.0×	0%	None	All	All

Timing[edit]

Limit Charge cancel[edit]

Interruptible	8
Animation length	21

Finishing Touch (grounded)[edit]

Hitboxes (mid, late, latest)	12, 13, 14
Windbox	22-26
Interruptible	85
Animation length	115

Finishing Touch (aerial)[edit]

Hitboxes (early, mid, late)	14, 15, 17
Windbox	25-29
Interruptible	88
Animation length	117

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)
Lag time	Hitbox	Hitbox change	Flinchless hitbox	Interruptible

Parameters[edit]

Limit Charge[edit]

Y offset for gauge GFX	20
Gauge GFX duration after cancel	60
Gauge fill per charge frame	0.3
Gauge fill per damage taken	1
Gauge fill per damage inflicted	0.667
Limit Break duration	900 frames

Finishing Touch[edit]

Horizontal speed multiplier	0.4
Vertical speed multiplier	0.4
Gravity	0.03
Max fall speed	1

Trivia[edit]

Finishing Touch's hitbox does not actually have any gaps between its hits; instead, during the "inactive" frames, its hit bits are changed to be unable to hit anything. The hitbox radius is also changed to 0.1.

Cloud's moveset

Neutral attack (1 · 2 · 3) · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Forward roll · Back roll · Spot dodge · Air dodge · Techs
Floor attack (front) · Floor getups (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor getups (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Floor getups (trip)
Edge attack · Edge getups
Neutral special · Side special · Up special · Down special · Final Smash

Cloud (SSBU)/Down special: Difference between revisions

Latest revision as of 20:38, August 25, 2024

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Overview[edit]

Update history[edit]

Hitboxes[edit]

Finishing Touch (grounded)[edit]

Finishing Touch (aerial)[edit]

Timing[edit]

Limit Charge cancel[edit]

Finishing Touch (grounded)[edit]

Finishing Touch (aerial)[edit]

Parameters[edit]

Limit Charge[edit]

Finishing Touch[edit]

Trivia[edit]

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 [[File:CloudFinishingTouchSSBU.gif|thumb|300px|Hitbox visualization showing Cloud's Limit down special, Finishing Touch, when used on the ground.]]
 [[File:CloudFinishingTouchAerialSSBU.gif|thumb|300px|Hitbox visualization showing Cloud's Limit down special, Finishing Touch, when used in the air.]]
+{{competitive expertise}}
 ==Overview==
+==Update history==
+'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|2.0.0}}'''
+*{{buff|Finishing Touch has more range at its beginning (Y offset: 20u-16u → 20u-11u).}}
+'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|7.0.0}}'''
+*{{buff|Limit Charge has a faster charge rate (units/frame: 0.25 → 0.3).}}
+'''{{GameIcon|ssbu}} {{SSBU|13.0.1}}'''
+*{{buff|Finishing Touch has less startup, with FAF compensated (grounded/aerial: 14/16 → 12/14, FAF grounded/aerial: 87/90 → 85/88).}}
 ==Hitboxes==
-===Grounded===
+===Finishing Touch (grounded)===
+<nowiki>*</nowiki>Because of a frame speed multiplier, the early hit never actually comes out.
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-{{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|36}}
+{{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit*|36}}
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 |id=0
-|damage=1.0
+|damage=1.0%
 |angle=80
 |bk=60
@@ Line 20: / Line 27: @@
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+|zpos=13.0 to 9.0
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+|damage=1.0%
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+|ypos=20.0 to 11.0
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+|damage=1.0%
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+|zpos=-2.0 to -8.0
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@@ Line 74: / Line 81: @@
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 |id=0
-|damage=1.0
+|damage=1.0%
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 |bn=top
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-|ypos=10.0 to 16.0
+|ypos=16.0 to 10.0
 |zpos=-11.5 to -11.0
 |ff=2.0
@@ Line 95: / Line 102: @@
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 |id=0
-|damage=0.0
+|damage=0.0%
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 |xpos=0.0
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-|zpos=-16.0 to 16.0
+|zpos=16.0 to -16.0
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 |type=Typeless
@@ Line 112: / Line 119: @@
 |clang=f
 |rebound=f
+|flinchless=t
+|nogfx=t
 }}
 |}
-===Aerial===
+===Finishing Touch (aerial)===
 {{UltimateHitboxTableHeader}}
-{{HitboxTableTitle|Clean hit|36}}
+{{HitboxTableTitle|Early hit|36}}
 {{UltimateHitboxTableRow
 |id=0
-|damage=1.0
+|damage=1.0%
 |angle=80
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 |xpos=0.0
 |ypos=10.0
-|zpos=9.0 to 13.0
+|zpos=13.0 to 9.0
 |ff=2.0
 |type=Sword
@@ Line 137: / Line 147: @@
 |rebound=f
 }}
-{{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|36}}
+{{HitboxTableTitle|Mid hit|36}}
 {{UltimateHitboxTableRow
 |id=0
-|damage=1.0
+|damage=1.0%
 |angle=80
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-|ypos=11.0 to 20.0
+|ypos=20.0 to 11.0
 |zpos=9.0 to 10.0
 |ff=2.0
@@ Line 158: / Line 168: @@
 |rebound=f
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-{{HitboxTableTitle|Latest hit|36}}
+{{HitboxTableTitle|Late hit|36}}
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 |id=0
-|damage=1.0
+|damage=1.0%
 |angle=80
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-|ypos=10.0 to 16.0
+|ypos=16.0 to 10.0
 |zpos=-11.5 to -11.0
 |ff=2.0
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 {{UltimateHitboxTableRow
 |id=0
-|damage=0.0
+|damage=0.0%
 |angle=361
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 |xpos=0.0
 |ypos=15.0
-|zpos=-16.0 to 16.0
+|zpos=16.0 to -16.0
 |ff=0.0
 |type=Typeless
@@ Line 199: / Line 209: @@
 |clang=f
 |rebound=f
+|flinchless=t
+|nogfx=t
 }}
 |}
 ==Timing==
+===Limit Charge cancel===
 {|class="wikitable"
-!Grounded (clean hit)
+!Interruptible
-|12
+|8
 |-
-!Grounded (late hit)
+!Animation length
-|13-14
+|21
+|}
+{{FrameStripStart}}
+{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=14}}
+{{FrameStripEnd}}
+===Finishing Touch (grounded)===
+{|class="wikitable"
+!Hitboxes (mid, late, latest)
+|12, 13, 14
 |-
-!Grounded (windbox)
+!Windbox
 |22-26
 |-
-!Aerial (clean hit)
+!Interruptible
-|14-16
+|85
 |-
-!Aerial (late hit)
+!Animation length
-|17
+|115
 |-
-!Aerial (windbox)
+|}
+{{FrameStripStart}}
+|{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=11}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|s=HitboxChangeM|e=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7}}{{FrameStrip|t=FlinchlessHitbox|c=5}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=58}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=31}}
+{{FrameStripEnd}}
+===Finishing Touch (aerial)===
+{|class="wikitable"
+!Hitboxes (early, mid, late)
+|14, 15, 17
+|-
+!Windbox
 |25-29
 |-
-!Animation length (grounded)
+!Interruptible
-|84
+|88
 |-
-!Animation length (aerial)
+!Animation length
-|87
+|117
 |}
 {{FrameStripStart}}
-|''Grounded'''&nbsp;{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=11}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=10}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=4}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=55}}
+{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=13}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=2|e=HitboxChangeE|s=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7}}{{FrameStrip|t=FlinchlessHitbox|c=5}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=59}}{{FrameStrip|t=Interruptible|c=30}}
+{{FrameStripEnd}}
+{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|interruptible=y|flinchlesshitbox=y}}
+==Parameters==
+===Limit Charge===
+{|class="wikitable"
+!Y offset for gauge GFX
+|20
+|-
+!Gauge GFX duration after cancel
+|60
+|-
+!Gauge fill per charge frame
+|0.3
+|-
+!Gauge fill per damage taken
+|1
+|-
+!Gauge fill per damage inflicted
+|0.667
+|-
+!Limit Break duration
+|900 frames
+|}
+===Finishing Touch===
+{|class="wikitable"
+!Horizontal speed multiplier
+|0.4
+|-
+!Vertical speed multiplier
+|0.4
+|-
+!Gravity
+|0.03
 |-
-|'''Aerial'''&nbsp;{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=13}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3|e=HitboxChangeS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=1|s=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=7|S=HitboxChangeE}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=5}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=58}}
+!Max fall speed
-{{FrameStripEnd}}
+|1
-{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|charge=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|interruptible=y}}
+|}
+==Trivia==
+*Finishing Touch's hitbox does not actually have any gaps between its hits; instead, during the "inactive" frames, its hit bits are changed to be unable to hit anything. The hitbox radius is also changed to 0.1.
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