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== Ayyyy congrats ==
== Ayyyy congrats ==
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:You don't. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 15:40, 24 December 2017 (EST)
:You don't. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 15:40, 24 December 2017 (EST)
:Then who can close down your account if you can't close down your own account? [[User:HammerBro101|HammerBro101]] ([[User talk:HammerBro101|talk]]) 16:03, 24 December 2017 (EST)HammerBro101
:Then who can close down your account if you can't close down your own account? [[User:HammerBro101|HammerBro101]] ([[User talk:HammerBro101|talk]]) 16:03, 24 December 2017 (EST)HammerBro101
== Think you can check out my talk page? ==
I left a question a while ago regarding the idle poses. <span style="background:#444;padding:2px 12px;font-size:12px">[[User:Stingrays110|<span style="color:#fff">Stingrays110</span>]] <span style="color:#FC0;letter-spacing:-2px">❯❯❯</span> [[User talk:Stingrays110|<span style="color:#fff">Talk</span>]]</span> 16:01, 14 January 2018 (EST)
== Idle Chatter ==
Hello, how are you doing today? I hope you are doing well. It's been a while since I was last on this wiki---I'm a Mario Wiki editor, after all. [[User:Skuchi037|Skuchi037]] ([[User talk:Skuchi037|talk]]) 20:57, 17 January 2018 (EST)
:Hi :) <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 21:32, 17 January 2018 (EST)
== Melee ==
Hi Mr. King! I wanted to ask you if Mario or Fox is better for competitive play because my friends challenged me to a Melee match. Hope to hear from you soon![[User:RatedMforMario]]. [[User talk:RatedMforMario|Let's-a-go]]!~ 14:19, 23 January 2018 (EST)
:Go have a read of [[SW:NOT]] and [[SW:TALK]] please, thank you. [[User:BSTIK|<span style="color:#33fcff">'''BST'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/BSTIK|<span style="color:#33fcff">'''IK'''</span>]] [[User talk:BSTIK|<span style="color:#33fcff;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #33fcff">(Talk)</span>]] 14:34, 23 January 2018 (EST)
== Name Change ==
Hey Serp, what's up? Could I kindly request a name change to Critical Warrior? Appreciate your time. [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Gladiator]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 22:55, 27 January 2018 (EST)
:As per [[SW:NAMECHANGE]] get back with me in a few days to confirm it, thank you. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:56, 27 January 2018 (EST)
Awesome, thanks. [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Gladiator]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 23:01, 27 January 2018 (EST)
:Given how drastic this name change will be, it is recommended that you change your signature if you confirm the name change. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 02:20, 28 January 2018 (EST)
Can do. [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 02:39, 28 January 2018 (EST)
I'd like to confirm the name change now, but I've decided that I want my new username to be Iron Warrior instead of Critical Warrior. Sorry for any inconvenience. [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 11:20, 3 February 2018 (EST)
:I'd like you to reconfirm your name change in a few days if you could please. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 19:02, 3 February 2018 (EST)
Of course. [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 11:25, 4 February 2018 (EST)
Ok, now I want to confirm my new username if you please. [[User:Iron Gladiator|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Gladiator|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 03:45, 12 February 2018 (EST)
== Notability ==
Firstly, [https://smashboards.com/rankings/mlg-dallas-2010-brawl-singles-both-brackets.578/event?id=3 the player in question was at the event] cited on the [[Pokémon Trainer (SSBB)]] article. (He placed 41st, but that's due to the unusual bracket system that MLG uses at some of their events, and isn't much different from what the user cited in the page). Secondly, notability has never been based solely on a player's tournament placings. And saying that 33rd is "really not good enough" is dubious, considering this was at MLG Dallas 2010, a circuit final and one of the biggest ''Brawl'' events of the year, [[List of largest Smash tournaments#By prize payout|and is still among the top ten tournaments in terms of prize payout even today.]] Add in that Pokémon Trainer was one of the least popular characters in ''Brawl'', and you could argue that placing 33rd with him would be something notable. Thirdly, when you remove a player from a notability section, especially a player that's been there for months without any objection, it should be on the basis that the player in question doesn't meet the qualifications for notability, not because the information listed is supposedly questionable or "isn't enough". Many of the players on these lists were added in five years ago, when the "Notable players" sections were first created, and none of these players had summaries next to their names either, yet are still considered notable. So don't remove players simply because they don't have anything next to their names, if they weren't added recently. Finally, your reversion was a blatant violation of the one revert policy. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 20:05, 30 January 2018 (EST)
:"''Secondly, notability has never been based solely on a player's tournament placings.''" Not solely, but primarily.
:"''And saying that 33rd is "really not good enough" is dubious, considering this was at MLG Dallas 2010, a circuit final and one of the biggest ''Brawl'' events of the year''" "''Many of the players on these lists were added in five years ago, when the "Notable players" sections were first created''" There have been several status quo changes about the notable player sections since 5 years ago. We now agree that we want to define what makes a "notable player" much more strictly.
:"''Thirdly, when you remove a player from a notability section, especially a player that's been there for months without any objection, it should be on the basis that the player in question doesn't meet the qualifications for notability, not because the information listed is supposedly questionable or "isn't enough".''" Huh? Information with apparently no or questionable origin is to be removed and looked into, and that's that.
:"''Finally, your reversion was a blatant violation of the one revert policy.''" You asked for a reason for the reversion, I gave it to you, and it was strong enough to not warrant further discussion.
:<span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:27, 30 January 2018 (EST)
::That is an extremely poor assessment of notability. Even if notability is primarily based on tournaments, is not purely objective, and is not defined by "you must reach Xth place in a tournament to be considered notable." Notability is and has been something of subjective nature, and it's up to players experienced with the competitive community to filter these out.
::In addition, "33rd is not good enough" just shows a lack of understanding of the competitive community and tournament history. At a stacked Brawl major, 33rd was considered a strong placement for a low-tier, and even a standard placing for dedicated mid-tier mains. Placing 33rd in Melee or Smash 4 today would probably be even more impressive with a low-tier character, considering the increased competition.
::"''Huh? Information with apparently no or questionable origin is to be removed and looked into, and that's that.''"
::Actually read what I wrote about the history of these pages. The notable players sections for Brawl articles were written before the summary rule was put into place, and were diligently moderated by OT and other users to ensure that the players listed actually met the criteria of "notable." Most of the Brawl players are legitimate, but they don't have summaries next to them, simply because no one bothered to add them in after the rule came into effect. Removing existing players without summaries just leads to counterproductive deletion of useful, encyclopedic information, when you could be removing legitimate players without realizing it. This really shouldn't be a problem for Brawl anyways, since the game is pretty much dead and no one is spamming the sections with random players anymore.
::Also, when you remove a player from the Notable players list, you're supposed to first investigate whether the player is notable or not, then remove the player once you have sufficient reasoning that concludes so. If you don't know anything about the player beyond what's listed in the summary, let someone else decide for you.
::"''You asked for a reason for the reversion, I gave it to you, and it was strong enough to not warrant further discussion."''
::"Do not revert another user's revert on an article, especially on matters of opinion. Use the talk page to reach consensus or at least a compromise before any additional revisions occur." You should have taken it to a talk page then.
::Honestly, what you've said here and in the edit summary has demonstrated that you have a really poor analysis of what makes a player "notable." You should really stay away from moderating these sections, especially if you can't give any reasoning beyond "33rd is not a good enough placement." [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 23:58, 30 January 2018 (EST)
:::I really do not appreciate you lecturing me about the way this wiki should run when you have just come back from relative inactivity with no feel for how the wiki has changed whatsoever. I am not going to argue in circles with you about this, but I will tell you that an immediate change of attitude will be in order here or we are going to have some problems. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:09, 31 January 2018 (EST)
::::"I can't refute what you're saying, so I'll just straw-man about how you're being disrespectful and need to shut up."
::::Me not being here for a while means absolutely nothing regarding this debate, I still know what makes good/bad content on a wiki and I still have a good idea of what needs to belong. And based on your previous record with competitive stuff on this wiki, I think it's fair for me to say that you could learn more about what's considered notable or not. Actually respond to what I said about notability, and maybe I can agree with you.
::::You know, [[Talk:Northern California|in the few interactions I've had with you]], as well as [[Forum:Project M coverage|from what I've seen while reading old archives]], you come across as an extremely defensive person who can't stand being criticized. It seems like many times when people criticize you or go against you, you launch into comments like "This is completely inappropriate" or "I expect better behavior from you" or "You need to change your attitude." (I'm looking at that conversation between you and Poultry on the PM forum.) You don't have to listen to what I'm saying, but those are just my honest opinions of you from what I've seen. You should consider whether those are qualities you'd like to have as a bureaucrat. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 01:07, 31 January 2018 (EST)
== The Quest for Redemption ==
Hello there, how are you doing? I'm a Mario Wiki editor who's been banned there indefinitely due to violating the courtesy policy numerous times, and I'm on an adventure for redemption. How can I help out the wiki here? I've always liked Smash Bros a lot, so I've got an advantage there. [[User:Skuchi037|Skuchi037]] ([[User talk:Skuchi037|talk]]) 17:03, 1 February 2018 (EST)
:Sure thing, I recommend starting by reading up on our [[SmashWiki:Policy|policies]] first and then checking the [[SmashWiki:Community portal|Community portal]] for a list of things to do. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:09, 1 February 2018 (EST)
::Also, what is it with these edits on the wiki? They are very spaced out and edits just don't happen consistently like they do on Mario Wiki. Is that just how it's always been or is it something else? I'd like to get a taste of this because I'm gonna need it if I'm gonna redeem myself. [[User:Skuchi037|Skuchi037]] ([[User talk:Skuchi037|talk]]) 21:34, 1 February 2018 (EST)
:::We're just not as active. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 03:36, 2 February 2018 (EST)
== Plz help ==
Could you possibly help me with my new signature? Maybe show me how it's done? I tried creating a custom signature but it totally bombed. See for yourself. [[User:Iron Gladiator|&#91;&#91;User:Iron Gladiator&#124;&#60;span style&#61;&#34;color: red&#59;&#34;&#62;&#39;&#39;&#39;Iron Reggie&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/span&#62;&#93;&#93; &#91;&#91;User talk:Iron Gladiator&#124;&#60;span style&#61;&#34;color: cyan&#59;&#34;&#62;&#39;&#39;&#39;Master of Memes&#39;&#39;&#39;&#60;/span&#62;&#93;&#93;]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 15:24, 4 February 2018 (EST)
:https://i.imgur.com/jV9TGZ8.png
:Make sure that is checked. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 15:26, 4 February 2018 (EST)
Thanks so much. [[User:Iron Gladiator|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Gladiator|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 15:28, 4 February 2018 (EST)
== Idle Chatter ==
Hello, how you doing? I hope you're doing well. [[User:Skuchi037|Skuchi037]] ([[User talk:Skuchi037|talk]]) 17:53, 4 February 2018 (EST)
:I'm doing well, but this isn't really the place for that. I suggest our [[SW:DISCORD|discord]] channel instead. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:56, 4 February 2018 (EST)
== Can I use your userbox? ==
Sorry to bother you (yet again) but can I use your userbox? I really appreciate the help you give me and I want to make that fact known. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 02:39, 16 February 2018 (EST)
:absolutely. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:06, 16 February 2018 (EST)
== Restoring knockback chart articles ==
I remember a few years ago there were pages for [[Up smash/Knockback chart]] and [[Down smash/Knockback chart]], but it looks like they were deleted. Based on the discussion held on [[Talk:Forward smash/Knockback chart]], it seems that it was agreed that the page should be cleaned up and kept. Would it be appropriate to restore the other two deleted charts as well? [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 19:23, 26 February 2018 (EST)
:Probably, yeah. 1 sec. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 17:53, 27 February 2018 (EST)
== Question ==
Hey Mr. Serp, out of pure curiosity, what Luigi skin alt. do you use? [[User:RatedMforMario]]. [[User talk:RatedMforMario|Let's-a-go]]!~ 22:29, 27 February 2018 (EST)
:{{head|Luigi|g=SSBM|cl=White}} <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:32, 27 February 2018 (EST)
Okay Thank you! [[User:RatedMforMario]]. [[User talk:RatedMforMario|Let's-a-go]]!~ 22:38, 27 February 2018 (EST)
== Art ==
Okay so two questions
1. Is it okay for me to make some artwork of you?
2. If yes, where can I send it to you? [[User:RatedMforMario]]. [[User talk:RatedMforMario|Let's-a-go]]!~ 23:03, 27 February 2018 (EST)
== Ac2k and rollback ==
It seems he won't take my word for it, so can you please head on over to my talk page and set the record straight with him please? I'm completely tired of having to deal with him every time I do something that HE thinks is wrong. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 00:28, 6 March 2018 (EST)
According to Black Vulpine, it was expressly stated by the administration that sell rollback was allowed. If you really think that explicitly allowing people to rollback their own edits is a good idea, you should create a new proposal on the [[SmashWiki:Rollback]] page, and add it into the policy if a consensus is reached. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 01:08, 6 March 2018 (EST)
:Or maybe you could just let it go as it's not that big a deal. The point of not rolling back edits is the lack of edit summary, usually only important to the person who got reverted. If that person is yourself, it really doesn't matter as much. That said it's not something that you should make a habit of. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 12:57, 6 March 2018 (EST)
::''"the lack of edit summary, usually only important to the person who got reverted"''
::This is a wiki, an edit summary is important to every user who goes through Recent Changes and sees the edit, not just the user who got reverted. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 13:03, 6 March 2018 (EST)
:::I'm not saying it's good to make a habit of it, I am saying that there's not really a good reason for you to call him out on it. The reversion was very clearly not in bad faith, I am assuming that the effect that he wanted from that template didn't work out quite right. This is not important to anyone scrolling through history. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 13:08, 6 March 2018 (EST)
::::What about April Fools day when good faith users vandalize the wiki for the day, should users with rollback be able to use it when cleaning up their own mess? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  13:25, 6 March 2018 (EST)
:::::I feel like there are a few issues with this. A lot of AFD consists of multiple users editing the same page, so rollback wouldn't be especially helpful there. Also, if a user made a good faith edit before AFD started, it would get automatically reverted as well with rollback, so more work would have to be done to restore the good faith edit. It would be better to just use restore previous or the undo button. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 14:11, 6 March 2018 (EST)
::::The thing is, adding stuff to a page and then suddenly reverting it is inevitably going to cause questions from people looking on (if not for this case, it will eventually happen at some point), when needless confusion can be avoided if the user just took a few extra seconds to explain the situation in their edit summary. [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 13:31, 6 March 2018 (EST)
:::::Ac2k? Stop. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''St. Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Iron Leprachaun Warrior'''</span>]] 23:00, 6 March 2018 (EST)
== You own the discord server? ==
Did someone decide to turn it over to you at some point, is it a relatively new feature, or did you set it up? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''St. Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Iron Leprachaun Warrior'''</span>]] 03:26, 11 March 2018 (EDT)
:It was Serpent King who set it up, and it was created to replace the now-obsolete and defunct IRC channel. What is IRC? I have no idea. That's how irrelevant it is. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 04:36, 11 March 2018 (EDT)
::Oh yeah...I remember seeing a link to the IRC channel on the side box only a few months ago. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''St. Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Iron Leprachaun Warrior'''</span>]] 04:53, 11 March 2018 (EDT)
== Smash Arena ==
Should we make a new contest since the Shiek vs Greninja one has gone on for so long? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''St. Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Iron Leprachaun Warrior'''</span>]] 21:56, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
:To my knowledge, it's been up since December 9, over three months ago. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''St. Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Iron Leprachaun Warrior'''</span>]] 21:58, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
::Serpent King isn't responsible for Smash Arena - Toomai is. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 22:50, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
:::Oh...I didn't know only one admin managed Smash Arena. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''St. Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Iron Leprachaun Warrior'''</span>]] 00:03, 17 March 2018 (EDT)
::::Yes indeed. But... keep in mind that the wiki is in a yellow status. You need to put some focus on the mainspace, as we're going to be less tolerant of excessive userspace and forum editing at this time. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 00:50, 17 March 2018 (EDT)
:::::Oh, I haven't edited forum in months (outside of the comment I made on this subject a few weeks ago) but I'll keep that in mind. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''St. Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Iron Leprachaun Warrior'''</span>]] 00:51, 17 March 2018 (EDT)
== Name change ==
I'd like to change my username to "Trainer Alex". ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 05:03, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
:You know the drill. Come back here in a couple of days to confirm it as per [[SW:NAMECHANGE]]. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 05:08, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
::Confirming now (sorry for the delay btw) ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:11, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
== Guides and Difficulties==
I noticed that none of the events have guides. I think guides should be added to the event pages to help the player pass them. I think there should also be guides for the reward conditions for the events in SSBU. Also, I noticed that the Subspace Emissary levels after The Plain don't really have any walkthroughs. Finally, I am planning to create pages for each of the challenges, and I want there to be guides for those as well. Of course, all those guides are too much for me to do myself, so I would like if some people helped!
About the difficulty part, I want there to be a difficulty system. For Subspace Emissary levels, for challenges, for events, and also for the reward conditions for events in SSBU. I can't do that since I don't have an account, so can someone else please create the difficulty system? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.6.217.5|24.6.217.5]] ([[User talk:24.6.217.5|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.6.217.5|contribs]]) 17:44, 12 April 2018 (EDT)</small>
:You are correct that none of the events have guides, because [[SmashWiki is not a strategy guide]], and so guides do not belong.
:Do not create pages for individual challenges. What could such a page possibly have on it aside from just its description and reward?
:There is no need to artificially invent how difficult challenges or events are. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Altruistic 20:20, 12 April 2018 (EDT)
== Hey ==
If you got time, can you check out what exactly is wrong with my [[User:Iron Warrior/Character Competency Charts|character competency charts]]? I want it to look like yours. I appreciate your time. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''the Fearsome Warrior'''</span>]] 04:19, 15 April 2018 (EDT)
:I'm a fixer. I fixed it. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 11:11, 15 April 2018 (EDT)
::Cool. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''the Fearsome Warrior'''</span>]] 11:21, 15 April 2018 (EDT)
== Sorry for adding the guides ==
I just didn't really know what's wrong with adding guides at the time. I didn't know that this wiki isn't a strategy guide at the time. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.6.217.5|24.6.217.5]] ([[User talk:24.6.217.5|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.6.217.5|contribs]]) 19:31, 16 April 2018</small>
:For one, new conversations go at the bottom of a talk page.
:For two, how could you now know when [[#Guides and Difficulties|your question was responded to?]]
:For three, [[SW:SIGN|please sign you comments.]] [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:48, 16 April 2018 (EDT)
== Umm... ==
I think I accidentally clicked the Leave Server button on the SW discord, because it just disappeared instantly somehow. Can you help? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 22:21, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
:You were banned. Have a nice day. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:23, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
::What?!!? What did I do?!!? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 22:24, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
::I was just joking on that last "outburst"! [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 22:25, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
:::I left you a ban reason but I guess I'll reiterate it... The fact that you don't know what you did confirms you were banned for the right reason. Constant outbursts on top of spamming up the channels with garbage, and also the all caps insults (jokes or not) over the last several days accumulated into a permanent ban from our server. Now unless you would like a block from SmashWiki as well I'd suggest you keep your response here tame. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:28, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
::::I wasn't actually looking at your response at the time, I was looking over Jiggly's Smash 4 page. To be fair, that last comment I made wasn't actually an insult. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 22:31, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::The last comment you made was a "last straw". You should have known to toe carefully after I had ''just'' given you a warning. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 22:46, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::But I was just making fun of Meta Knight, nothing more! [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 22:56, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
:::::::"I was just-"
:::::::You were told, very clearly as a final warning, to stop doing X. You did X less than fifteen minutes later. It does not matter whether you were joking because you demonstrated a complete lack of respect for staff and others in the channel.
:::::::That is all that will be said. Do not try to argue further. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Ghostbuster 06:38, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::I know, but I honestly can't find anything that you might find wrong with that comment besides the fact that it was all caps. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 09:39, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
::::::::Well, I guess that's it then. No more Discord for me. [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: blue;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: green;">'''the Earthling Warrior'''</span>]] 09:42, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
== A moment of your assistance? ==
I would like to edit portions of the update history section of King Dedede's article. Specifically, I wish to edit each "Gordo Toss" into "Gordo Throw" (the correct term). Unfortunately, I have no knowledge on how to do that. I would greatly appreciate your help. [[User:Capnap64|Capnap64]] ([[User talk:Capnap64|talk]]) 08:10, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
:The only instance of this is in the 1.0.4 update. Since this uses a template, you'll have to edit that [[Template:UpdateList/1.0.4|here]], then just use the find/replace tool to replace all instances of "Gordo Toss" to "Gordo Throw". Hope this helps! <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 12:51, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
::It is done. You have my interminable gratitude for your assistance. I will be very happy working alongside you. [[User:Capnap64|Capnap64]] ([[User talk:Capnap64|talk]]) 13:15, 3 May 2018 (EDT)

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Ayyyy congrats

Congratulations on becoming a bureaucrat, man! Extremely proud of you ^_^ --BeepYouSignature.png Beep (talk) 13:42, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

Thanks Beep, that means a lot. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:46, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

Seriously, congrats! You really do deserve it, and I knew you could do it! Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 15:31, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

*insert victory music here* AidanzapunkSig1.pngAidan, the Wandering Dragon WarriorAidanzapunkSig2.png 15:48, 13 August 2017 (EDT)
Thanks guys. Serpent SKSig.png King 17:46, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

I always knew you'd make it. Congratulations on passing, my friend! *hugs* Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 18:43, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

Thanks mate *hugs back* Serpent SKSig.png King 20:48, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

Might as well congratulate you again whilst I'm on this page. Have some victory music [1] BSTIK (Talk) 10:24, 14 August 2017 (EDT)

Congrats man. I think I was actually the most opposed to it lol, but you deserve it. Penro 12:24, 14 August 2017 (EDT)

I need some help

Hey SK. I've heard you were the one to go to, so here I am.I need some help with something.

While I read the things Disaster Flare showed to me, I still need to know how to upload images onto SmashWiki. I want to bring the Stomp (archetype) page up to date, but the List of meteor smashes (SSB4) page doesn't all of them. Please reply at your convenience.Iron Gladiator (talk) 10:03, 14 August 2017 (EDT)

Special:Upload BSTIK (Talk) 10:13, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
^ yup just use that link. Be sure to pick the license-screenshot option in the licensing box and off you go. Serpent SKSig.png King 12:48, 14 August 2017 (EDT)
Also a good way to get high quality ones if you don't have a capture card is to go into camera mode, remove help, pause and go to miiverse, post screenshot then download it from the web version https://miiverse.nintendo.net/titles/14866558073037299863/14866558073037299866 Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 14:02, 14 August 2017 (EDT)

Question regarding a page I want to create

Hey Serp! I want to create a page about Smash Crate, basically lootcrate but for Smash. It's garnered some popularity, but I'm wondering if it would be notable enough for a creation. Please let me know your opinion. Thanks! User: Skittles03

You're free to prove that it's notable, but I have doubts. Serpent SKSig.png King 01:32, 15 August 2017 (EDT)

Ok, I'll try me best! User:Skittles03

Rename

Why not test out your newfound powers (congratulations on the well-deserved promotion, btw) by changing my username to "BaconMastre"? It's what I typically go by on sites I more frequently use. BaconMasterBaconMasterSig.png 14:08, 16 August 2017 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE write back here in a few days and I'll change it then. Serpent SKSig.png King 14:12, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
Checking back to reconfirm my want for a name change. BaconMasterBaconMasterSig.png 13:58, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

Rename please

I would like a rename to "Sans" toad the kool (sans) {talkcontributions) 01:17, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, please write back here in a few days to confirm. Serpent SKSig.png King 01:28, 2 September 2017 (EDT)
back here to confirm. though i will ask for the name to be lowercased for a reason. sans {talkcontributions) 10:52, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
The system isn't capable of that, sorry. Serpent SKSig.png King 11:13, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
To clarify: The URL of your userpage and your name in the logs will always start with a capital letter, and it's impossible to change that. But you can link to your userpage with a lowercase first letter and it'll still work fine. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Brazen 11:20, 9 September 2017 (EDT)

Violation

Why the Lucina is lost? Music Video 123 (talk) 06:59, 6 October 2017 (EDT)

Your signature includes the use of mainspace images, which is not permitted. What you CAN do however is take that image and reupload it as a user image. Do that, and you will be allowed to use it in your signature. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 07:37, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
But User:Disaster Flare using Lucina icon in his signature. Music Video 123 (talk) 11:35, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
Did you not read what Black Vulpine said before you rushed out a reply? You need to reupload the image you wanna use and put it as a user image, THEN you can use it in your signature. Also read this BSTIK (Talk) 11:54, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
You may upload a DUPLICATE of a mainspace image and use that in your signature. And that is exactly what Disaster Flare has gone and done. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 18:37, 6 October 2017 (EDT)
To license? Music Video 123 (talk) 04:28, 10 October 2017 (EDT)
Use the same one that the original has. In this case, use {{fairuse}}. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 06:09, 10 October 2017 (EDT)

Competitive namespace

It's been over a month, and we've collected quite a few responses given the wiki's relative inactivity. Is it time for a resolution yet? Nyargleblargle.pngNyargleblargle (Contribs) 08:46, 25 October 2017 (EDT)

Serpent isn't the one running it, Toomai is. I don't feel as if we should rush this process, sure it has been going for a month now and seems pretty decisive but it should run its course and let Toomai come to a final decision when he feels its ready. BSTIK (Talk) 09:46, 25 October 2017 (EDT)
^ It's Toomai's thing, I'm not going to settle it because I don't want to feel like I am stepping on any toes. I'm sure he's almost ready to conclude anyway. Serpent SKSigHalloween.png King 13:01, 25 October 2017 (EDT)

Talk page archiving.

What exactly are the rules about talk page archiving, because I'm not entirely sure how it works, and my talk page is getting really long now. Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 18:02, 2 November 2017 (EDT)

There's no hard and fast rule about it, but it is recommended that you don't let your talk page get over 32k bytes. Personally I think 15-20 sections is a better way to judge it but that's just me. If your talk becomes obnoxiously long (it takes a long time to find the discussion one is looking for) you may be asked to archive by an admin. Uhh one other thing is that you do not archive any active sections. Instead clip around them. See Help:Archiving talk pages. Serpent SKSigHalloween.png King 21:19, 2 November 2017 (EDT)

Character-specific update lists

Hey, is there a way to edit them to update info regarding particular changes? For example, Luigi's 1.1.1 list mentions the shield mechanic-related nerfs that he indirectly received from that update. However, as far as I know, his page is the only one that follows this format, even though other characters were also noticeably affected by the same changes, such as Ryu. 104.136.200.207 17:45, 8 November 2017 (EST)

Just add them with the Buff/Nerf/Change templates. Serpent SKSig.png King 17:56, 8 November 2017 (EST)

Golden Sun on the pages to improve thingy

There's nothing wrong I see with it at all. Maybe a little short, but the franchise is so small and has such a small impact on the Smash franchise that it doesn't matter. Why is it there? --Penro 22:37, 11 November 2017 (EST)

Ask Miles. I believe he's the one who put it up. Serpent SKSig.png King 22:39, 11 November 2017 (EST)
Oh, I don't know why I thought only bures could update that, sorry. --Penro 22:42, 11 November 2017 (EST)

My userbox

Hey Serpent, do you think you could help me with my userbox? I can't understand what went wrong. I used Alex's as a reference but it's looking pretty crap right now. If you have the time, reply at your convenience. Iron Gladiator (talk) 23:19, 13 November 2017 (EST)

This page should probably be deleted

[Drill (archetype)]. --Penro 16:14, 16 December 2017 (EST)

Do we want to do anything about this?

I came across this this morning. I dunno if we allow people to get away with this or not though. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 21:56, 20 December 2017 (EST)

I'm not Serpent, clearly, but I think we should not allow that. Granted in this case it wasn't that severe, so I would give a warning, but if it's removal of information or massvandalism, just block it. --Penro 22:05, 20 December 2017 (EST)
I'm gonna go ahead and assume it as vandalism, as going through the IP's edits, it definitely comes off as malicious. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 01:00, 21 December 2017 (EST)

Creating smashwiki pages for local scene

Hello, you recently deleted a page I created. Is it not allowed to create smashwiki pages for the local scene? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ABAP (talkcontribs) 11:43, 21 December 2017 (EST)

  1. You are creating it in the wrong place, smasher articles go in the smasher space.
  2. No, local only players do not get articles. They have to be ranked, placed well in a regional, TOd a regional or better, or have contributed something significant to the scene.
  3. Please remember to sign your comments.

Thank you. Serpent SKSig.png King 11:43, 21 December 2017 (EST)

Reply

Oh, sorry. I just felt like those images would improve the page. HammerBro101 (talk) 14:55, 24 December 2017 (EST)HammerBro101

Nah, you're okay. Thanks for listening. Serpent SKSig.png King 15:01, 24 December 2017 (EST)

Length of My Block

How long will my block be for if I don't adhere to the warning immediately? HammerBro101 (talk) 15:19, 24 December 2017 (EST)HammerBro101

For asking that, permanent. Serpent SKSig.png King 15:20, 24 December 2017 (EST)

I've Had Enough Of This Wiki!

I just want to find a way to get off this wiki for good! I never want to edit ever again! I want to close my account!

There's always the X button in the top right corner of your browser. Serpent SKSig.png King 15:36, 24 December 2017 (EST)
I know that, but how do you close an account once you make one?

HammerBro101 (talk) 15:39, 24 December 2017 (EST)HammerBro101

You don't. Serpent SKSig.png King 15:40, 24 December 2017 (EST)
Then who can close down your account if you can't close down your own account? HammerBro101 (talk) 16:03, 24 December 2017 (EST)HammerBro101

Think you can check out my talk page?

I left a question a while ago regarding the idle poses. Stingrays110 ❯❯❯ Talk 16:01, 14 January 2018 (EST)

Idle Chatter

Hello, how are you doing today? I hope you are doing well. It's been a while since I was last on this wiki---I'm a Mario Wiki editor, after all. Skuchi037 (talk) 20:57, 17 January 2018 (EST)

Hi :) Serpent SKSig.png King 21:32, 17 January 2018 (EST)

Melee

Hi Mr. King! I wanted to ask you if Mario or Fox is better for competitive play because my friends challenged me to a Melee match. Hope to hear from you soon!User:RatedMforMario. Let's-a-go!~ 14:19, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Go have a read of SW:NOT and SW:TALK please, thank you. BSTIK (Talk) 14:34, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Name Change

Hey Serp, what's up? Could I kindly request a name change to Critical Warrior? Appreciate your time. Iron Gladiator (talk) 22:55, 27 January 2018 (EST)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE get back with me in a few days to confirm it, thank you. Serpent SKSig.png King 22:56, 27 January 2018 (EST)

Awesome, thanks. Iron Gladiator (talk) 23:01, 27 January 2018 (EST)

Given how drastic this name change will be, it is recommended that you change your signature if you confirm the name change. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 02:20, 28 January 2018 (EST)

Can do. Iron Reggie, Master of Memes (talk) 02:39, 28 January 2018 (EST)

I'd like to confirm the name change now, but I've decided that I want my new username to be Iron Warrior instead of Critical Warrior. Sorry for any inconvenience. Iron Reggie, Master of Memes (talk) 11:20, 3 February 2018 (EST)

I'd like you to reconfirm your name change in a few days if you could please. Serpent SKSig.png King 19:02, 3 February 2018 (EST)

Of course. Iron Reggie, Master of Memes (talk) 11:25, 4 February 2018 (EST)

Ok, now I want to confirm my new username if you please. Iron Reggie, Master of Memes 03:45, 12 February 2018 (EST)

Notability

Firstly, the player in question was at the event cited on the Pokémon Trainer (SSBB) article. (He placed 41st, but that's due to the unusual bracket system that MLG uses at some of their events, and isn't much different from what the user cited in the page). Secondly, notability has never been based solely on a player's tournament placings. And saying that 33rd is "really not good enough" is dubious, considering this was at MLG Dallas 2010, a circuit final and one of the biggest Brawl events of the year, and is still among the top ten tournaments in terms of prize payout even today. Add in that Pokémon Trainer was one of the least popular characters in Brawl, and you could argue that placing 33rd with him would be something notable. Thirdly, when you remove a player from a notability section, especially a player that's been there for months without any objection, it should be on the basis that the player in question doesn't meet the qualifications for notability, not because the information listed is supposedly questionable or "isn't enough". Many of the players on these lists were added in five years ago, when the "Notable players" sections were first created, and none of these players had summaries next to their names either, yet are still considered notable. So don't remove players simply because they don't have anything next to their names, if they weren't added recently. Finally, your reversion was a blatant violation of the one revert policy. Awesome Cardinal 2000 20:05, 30 January 2018 (EST)

"Secondly, notability has never been based solely on a player's tournament placings." Not solely, but primarily.
"And saying that 33rd is "really not good enough" is dubious, considering this was at MLG Dallas 2010, a circuit final and one of the biggest Brawl events of the year" "Many of the players on these lists were added in five years ago, when the "Notable players" sections were first created" There have been several status quo changes about the notable player sections since 5 years ago. We now agree that we want to define what makes a "notable player" much more strictly.
"Thirdly, when you remove a player from a notability section, especially a player that's been there for months without any objection, it should be on the basis that the player in question doesn't meet the qualifications for notability, not because the information listed is supposedly questionable or "isn't enough"." Huh? Information with apparently no or questionable origin is to be removed and looked into, and that's that.
"Finally, your reversion was a blatant violation of the one revert policy." You asked for a reason for the reversion, I gave it to you, and it was strong enough to not warrant further discussion.
Serpent SKSig.png King 20:27, 30 January 2018 (EST)
That is an extremely poor assessment of notability. Even if notability is primarily based on tournaments, is not purely objective, and is not defined by "you must reach Xth place in a tournament to be considered notable." Notability is and has been something of subjective nature, and it's up to players experienced with the competitive community to filter these out.
In addition, "33rd is not good enough" just shows a lack of understanding of the competitive community and tournament history. At a stacked Brawl major, 33rd was considered a strong placement for a low-tier, and even a standard placing for dedicated mid-tier mains. Placing 33rd in Melee or Smash 4 today would probably be even more impressive with a low-tier character, considering the increased competition.
"Huh? Information with apparently no or questionable origin is to be removed and looked into, and that's that."
Actually read what I wrote about the history of these pages. The notable players sections for Brawl articles were written before the summary rule was put into place, and were diligently moderated by OT and other users to ensure that the players listed actually met the criteria of "notable." Most of the Brawl players are legitimate, but they don't have summaries next to them, simply because no one bothered to add them in after the rule came into effect. Removing existing players without summaries just leads to counterproductive deletion of useful, encyclopedic information, when you could be removing legitimate players without realizing it. This really shouldn't be a problem for Brawl anyways, since the game is pretty much dead and no one is spamming the sections with random players anymore.
Also, when you remove a player from the Notable players list, you're supposed to first investigate whether the player is notable or not, then remove the player once you have sufficient reasoning that concludes so. If you don't know anything about the player beyond what's listed in the summary, let someone else decide for you.
"You asked for a reason for the reversion, I gave it to you, and it was strong enough to not warrant further discussion."
"Do not revert another user's revert on an article, especially on matters of opinion. Use the talk page to reach consensus or at least a compromise before any additional revisions occur." You should have taken it to a talk page then.
Honestly, what you've said here and in the edit summary has demonstrated that you have a really poor analysis of what makes a player "notable." You should really stay away from moderating these sections, especially if you can't give any reasoning beyond "33rd is not a good enough placement." Awesome Cardinal 2000 23:58, 30 January 2018 (EST)
I really do not appreciate you lecturing me about the way this wiki should run when you have just come back from relative inactivity with no feel for how the wiki has changed whatsoever. I am not going to argue in circles with you about this, but I will tell you that an immediate change of attitude will be in order here or we are going to have some problems. Serpent SKSig.png King 00:09, 31 January 2018 (EST)
"I can't refute what you're saying, so I'll just straw-man about how you're being disrespectful and need to shut up."
Me not being here for a while means absolutely nothing regarding this debate, I still know what makes good/bad content on a wiki and I still have a good idea of what needs to belong. And based on your previous record with competitive stuff on this wiki, I think it's fair for me to say that you could learn more about what's considered notable or not. Actually respond to what I said about notability, and maybe I can agree with you.
You know, in the few interactions I've had with you, as well as from what I've seen while reading old archives, you come across as an extremely defensive person who can't stand being criticized. It seems like many times when people criticize you or go against you, you launch into comments like "This is completely inappropriate" or "I expect better behavior from you" or "You need to change your attitude." (I'm looking at that conversation between you and Poultry on the PM forum.) You don't have to listen to what I'm saying, but those are just my honest opinions of you from what I've seen. You should consider whether those are qualities you'd like to have as a bureaucrat. Awesome Cardinal 2000 01:07, 31 January 2018 (EST)

The Quest for Redemption

Hello there, how are you doing? I'm a Mario Wiki editor who's been banned there indefinitely due to violating the courtesy policy numerous times, and I'm on an adventure for redemption. How can I help out the wiki here? I've always liked Smash Bros a lot, so I've got an advantage there. Skuchi037 (talk) 17:03, 1 February 2018 (EST)

Sure thing, I recommend starting by reading up on our policies first and then checking the Community portal for a list of things to do. Serpent SKSig.png King 17:09, 1 February 2018 (EST)
Also, what is it with these edits on the wiki? They are very spaced out and edits just don't happen consistently like they do on Mario Wiki. Is that just how it's always been or is it something else? I'd like to get a taste of this because I'm gonna need it if I'm gonna redeem myself. Skuchi037 (talk) 21:34, 1 February 2018 (EST)
We're just not as active. Serpent SKSig.png King 03:36, 2 February 2018 (EST)

Plz help

Could you possibly help me with my new signature? Maybe show me how it's done? I tried creating a custom signature but it totally bombed. See for yourself. [[User:Iron Gladiator|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Gladiator|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] (talk) 15:24, 4 February 2018 (EST)

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Make sure that is checked. Serpent SKSig.png King 15:26, 4 February 2018 (EST)

Thanks so much. Iron Reggie, Master of Memes 15:28, 4 February 2018 (EST)

Idle Chatter

Hello, how you doing? I hope you're doing well. Skuchi037 (talk) 17:53, 4 February 2018 (EST)

I'm doing well, but this isn't really the place for that. I suggest our discord channel instead. Serpent SKSig.png King 17:56, 4 February 2018 (EST)

Can I use your userbox?

Sorry to bother you (yet again) but can I use your userbox? I really appreciate the help you give me and I want to make that fact known. Iron Reggie, Master of Memes 02:39, 16 February 2018 (EST)

absolutely. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:06, 16 February 2018 (EST)

Restoring knockback chart articles

I remember a few years ago there were pages for Up smash/Knockback chart and Down smash/Knockback chart, but it looks like they were deleted. Based on the discussion held on Talk:Forward smash/Knockback chart, it seems that it was agreed that the page should be cleaned up and kept. Would it be appropriate to restore the other two deleted charts as well? Awesome Cardinal 2000 19:23, 26 February 2018 (EST)

Probably, yeah. 1 sec. Serpent SKSig.png King 17:53, 27 February 2018 (EST)

Question

Hey Mr. Serp, out of pure curiosity, what Luigi skin alt. do you use? User:RatedMforMario. Let's-a-go!~ 22:29, 27 February 2018 (EST)

Luigi (SSBM) Serpent SKSig.png King 22:32, 27 February 2018 (EST)

Okay Thank you! User:RatedMforMario. Let's-a-go!~ 22:38, 27 February 2018 (EST)

Art

Okay so two questions 1. Is it okay for me to make some artwork of you? 2. If yes, where can I send it to you? User:RatedMforMario. Let's-a-go!~ 23:03, 27 February 2018 (EST)

Ac2k and rollback

It seems he won't take my word for it, so can you please head on over to my talk page and set the record straight with him please? I'm completely tired of having to deal with him every time I do something that HE thinks is wrong. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 00:28, 6 March 2018 (EST)

According to Black Vulpine, it was expressly stated by the administration that sell rollback was allowed. If you really think that explicitly allowing people to rollback their own edits is a good idea, you should create a new proposal on the SmashWiki:Rollback page, and add it into the policy if a consensus is reached. Awesome Cardinal 2000 01:08, 6 March 2018 (EST)

Or maybe you could just let it go as it's not that big a deal. The point of not rolling back edits is the lack of edit summary, usually only important to the person who got reverted. If that person is yourself, it really doesn't matter as much. That said it's not something that you should make a habit of. Serpent SKSig.png King 12:57, 6 March 2018 (EST)
"the lack of edit summary, usually only important to the person who got reverted"
This is a wiki, an edit summary is important to every user who goes through Recent Changes and sees the edit, not just the user who got reverted. Awesome Cardinal 2000 13:03, 6 March 2018 (EST)
I'm not saying it's good to make a habit of it, I am saying that there's not really a good reason for you to call him out on it. The reversion was very clearly not in bad faith, I am assuming that the effect that he wanted from that template didn't work out quite right. This is not important to anyone scrolling through history. Serpent SKSig.png King 13:08, 6 March 2018 (EST)
What about April Fools day when good faith users vandalize the wiki for the day, should users with rollback be able to use it when cleaning up their own mess? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is a never lover boy 13:25, 6 March 2018 (EST)
I feel like there are a few issues with this. A lot of AFD consists of multiple users editing the same page, so rollback wouldn't be especially helpful there. Also, if a user made a good faith edit before AFD started, it would get automatically reverted as well with rollback, so more work would have to be done to restore the good faith edit. It would be better to just use restore previous or the undo button. Awesome Cardinal 2000 14:11, 6 March 2018 (EST)
The thing is, adding stuff to a page and then suddenly reverting it is inevitably going to cause questions from people looking on (if not for this case, it will eventually happen at some point), when needless confusion can be avoided if the user just took a few extra seconds to explain the situation in their edit summary. Awesome Cardinal 2000 13:31, 6 March 2018 (EST)
Ac2k? Stop. St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 23:00, 6 March 2018 (EST)

You own the discord server?

Did someone decide to turn it over to you at some point, is it a relatively new feature, or did you set it up? St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 03:26, 11 March 2018 (EDT)

It was Serpent King who set it up, and it was created to replace the now-obsolete and defunct IRC channel. What is IRC? I have no idea. That's how irrelevant it is. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 04:36, 11 March 2018 (EDT)
Oh yeah...I remember seeing a link to the IRC channel on the side box only a few months ago. St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 04:53, 11 March 2018 (EDT)

Smash Arena

Should we make a new contest since the Shiek vs Greninja one has gone on for so long? St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 21:56, 16 March 2018 (EDT)

To my knowledge, it's been up since December 9, over three months ago. St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 21:58, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
Serpent King isn't responsible for Smash Arena - Toomai is. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 22:50, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
Oh...I didn't know only one admin managed Smash Arena. St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 00:03, 17 March 2018 (EDT)
Yes indeed. But... keep in mind that the wiki is in a yellow status. You need to put some focus on the mainspace, as we're going to be less tolerant of excessive userspace and forum editing at this time. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 00:50, 17 March 2018 (EDT)
Oh, I haven't edited forum in months (outside of the comment I made on this subject a few weeks ago) but I'll keep that in mind. St. Reggie, the Iron Leprachaun Warrior 00:51, 17 March 2018 (EDT)

Name change

I'd like to change my username to "Trainer Alex". Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 05:03, 1 April 2018 (EDT)

You know the drill. Come back here in a couple of days to confirm it as per SW:NAMECHANGE. Serpent SKSig.png King 05:08, 1 April 2018 (EDT)
Confirming now (sorry for the delay btw) Alex the Jigglypuff trainer 17:11, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Guides and Difficulties

I noticed that none of the events have guides. I think guides should be added to the event pages to help the player pass them. I think there should also be guides for the reward conditions for the events in SSBU. Also, I noticed that the Subspace Emissary levels after The Plain don't really have any walkthroughs. Finally, I am planning to create pages for each of the challenges, and I want there to be guides for those as well. Of course, all those guides are too much for me to do myself, so I would like if some people helped!

About the difficulty part, I want there to be a difficulty system. For Subspace Emissary levels, for challenges, for events, and also for the reward conditions for events in SSBU. I can't do that since I don't have an account, so can someone else please create the difficulty system? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.217.5 (talkcontribs) 17:44, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

You are correct that none of the events have guides, because SmashWiki is not a strategy guide, and so guides do not belong.
Do not create pages for individual challenges. What could such a page possibly have on it aside from just its description and reward?
There is no need to artificially invent how difficult challenges or events are. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Altruistic 20:20, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Hey

If you got time, can you check out what exactly is wrong with my character competency charts? I want it to look like yours. I appreciate your time. Iron Reggie, the Fearsome Warrior 04:19, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

I'm a fixer. I fixed it. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 11:11, 15 April 2018 (EDT)
Cool. Iron Reggie, the Fearsome Warrior 11:21, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

Sorry for adding the guides

I just didn't really know what's wrong with adding guides at the time. I didn't know that this wiki isn't a strategy guide at the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.217.5 (talkcontribs) 19:31, 16 April 2018

For one, new conversations go at the bottom of a talk page.
For two, how could you now know when your question was responded to?
For three, please sign you comments. Aidan, the Rurouni 20:48, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Umm...

I think I accidentally clicked the Leave Server button on the SW discord, because it just disappeared instantly somehow. Can you help? Iron Reggie, the Earthling Warrior 22:21, 19 April 2018 (EDT)

You were banned. Have a nice day. Serpent SKSig.png King 22:23, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
What?!!? What did I do?!!? Iron Reggie, the Earthling Warrior 22:24, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
I was just joking on that last "outburst"! Iron Reggie, the Earthling Warrior 22:25, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
I left you a ban reason but I guess I'll reiterate it... The fact that you don't know what you did confirms you were banned for the right reason. Constant outbursts on top of spamming up the channels with garbage, and also the all caps insults (jokes or not) over the last several days accumulated into a permanent ban from our server. Now unless you would like a block from SmashWiki as well I'd suggest you keep your response here tame. Serpent SKSig.png King 22:28, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
I wasn't actually looking at your response at the time, I was looking over Jiggly's Smash 4 page. To be fair, that last comment I made wasn't actually an insult. Iron Reggie, the Earthling Warrior 22:31, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
The last comment you made was a "last straw". You should have known to toe carefully after I had just given you a warning. Serpent SKSig.png King 22:46, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
But I was just making fun of Meta Knight, nothing more! Iron Reggie, the Earthling Warrior 22:56, 19 April 2018 (EDT)
"I was just-"
You were told, very clearly as a final warning, to stop doing X. You did X less than fifteen minutes later. It does not matter whether you were joking because you demonstrated a complete lack of respect for staff and others in the channel.
That is all that will be said. Do not try to argue further. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Ghostbuster 06:38, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
I know, but I honestly can't find anything that you might find wrong with that comment besides the fact that it was all caps. Iron Reggie, the Earthling Warrior 09:39, 20 April 2018 (EDT)
Well, I guess that's it then. No more Discord for me. Iron Reggie, the Earthling Warrior 09:42, 20 April 2018 (EDT)

A moment of your assistance?

I would like to edit portions of the update history section of King Dedede's article. Specifically, I wish to edit each "Gordo Toss" into "Gordo Throw" (the correct term). Unfortunately, I have no knowledge on how to do that. I would greatly appreciate your help. Capnap64 (talk) 08:10, 3 May 2018 (EDT)

The only instance of this is in the 1.0.4 update. Since this uses a template, you'll have to edit that here, then just use the find/replace tool to replace all instances of "Gordo Toss" to "Gordo Throw". Hope this helps! Serpent SKSig.png King 12:51, 3 May 2018 (EDT)
It is done. You have my interminable gratitude for your assistance. I will be very happy working alongside you. Capnap64 (talk) 13:15, 3 May 2018 (EDT)