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I don't know much about official tournament terminology, but I'm not sure DSB is a logical acronym for the japanese n64 game. Although in english the second and third game are just the first games name with a suffix added, in japan the first game had a unique prefix not in those games titles, namely "Nintendo All-Star". Shouldn't the acronym therefore be NASDSB, NADSB, ASDSB, or something incorporating the prefix in some way? [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 12:49, 10 May 2014 (EDT) | I don't know much about official tournament terminology, but I'm not sure DSB is a logical acronym for the japanese n64 game. Although in english the second and third game are just the first games name with a suffix added, in japan the first game had a unique prefix not in those games titles, namely "Nintendo All-Star". Shouldn't the acronym therefore be NASDSB, NADSB, ASDSB, or something incorporating the prefix in some way? [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 12:49, 10 May 2014 (EDT) | ||
== Why a unique page for DSB only? == | |||
Why is there a distinct tournament legal page for only the first Japanese Smash Bros. game? Arguably there either ought be pages for Japanese SSBM/SSBB/etc. as well, or this page should be merged into [[Tournament legal (SSB)]]. Just wondering why this particular page and no others. Is it the case that only the first game in the series happens to have different legal stages/some other legality difference between Japanese and non-Japanese rulesets, and other games do not? [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] ([[User talk:Zowayix|talk]]) 14:20, 6 April 2015 (EDT) | |||
:I '''oppose''' a merge. Merging these 2 pages would be very messy, and besides that, they are 2 different rulesets, and thus should have 2 different pages. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:51, 11 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::'''oppose''' per Serpent. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:57, 11 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:: '''Oppose''' [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' 19:18, 11 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:::Why is this particular region and game the ''only'' separate page then? What's so special about Japan+Smash 64 that it deserves its own page and not, say, Japan+Brawl or Europe+Melee? I'm not saying merging is necessarily the right move, just wondering why the uniqueness. [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] ([[User talk:Zowayix|talk]]) 22:53, 11 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::: '''Oppose''' I think they should stay because DSB's rules are different. If he just decide to change it, we might as well as merge the tier lists as well. [[User:Grayblood|Grayblood]] ([[User talk:Grayblood|talk]]) 14:55, 12 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::::'''Oppose''' a merge, '''support''' creating pages for the other Japanese rulesets. They're unique enough (at least in Brawl and Smash 4) to warrant separate entries IMO. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 15:27, 12 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:::::'''Oppose''' merging, '''Support''' creating pages for the other japanese rulesets, per Nyargleblargle. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="cursive">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">(Talk • </font>]] [[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">Contribs)</font>]]'''''</sup></font> 15:39, 12 December 2015 (EST) | |||
How different are other games' Japanese rulesets from NA/European ones? If this is the only one with significant differences (which was my impression), it's fine for it to remain on its own and not make pages for the other games. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:42, 12 December 2015 (EST) | |||
: While not detailed, they're apparently different enough for us to have separate pages on Japanese, European, and Brazilian tier lists... [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] ([[User talk:Zowayix|talk]]) 00:42, 13 December 2015 (EST) | |||
::That's irrelevant though, as their tier lists have nothing to do with their rulesets. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 00:48, 13 December 2015 (EST) | |||
:::On the contrary, the regional tier list pages specifically state that the reason for deviating from the 'regular' tier list is because of the different rulesets, leading to a different metagame. [[User:Zowayix|Zowayix]] ([[User talk:Zowayix|talk]]) 23:47, 13 December 2015 (EST) |
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I don't know much about official tournament terminology, but I'm not sure DSB is a logical acronym for the japanese n64 game. Although in english the second and third game are just the first games name with a suffix added, in japan the first game had a unique prefix not in those games titles, namely "Nintendo All-Star". Shouldn't the acronym therefore be NASDSB, NADSB, ASDSB, or something incorporating the prefix in some way? ♡FirstaLasto♥ 12:49, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
Why a unique page for DSB only?[edit]
Why is there a distinct tournament legal page for only the first Japanese Smash Bros. game? Arguably there either ought be pages for Japanese SSBM/SSBB/etc. as well, or this page should be merged into Tournament legal (SSB). Just wondering why this particular page and no others. Is it the case that only the first game in the series happens to have different legal stages/some other legality difference between Japanese and non-Japanese rulesets, and other games do not? Zowayix (talk) 14:20, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
- I oppose a merge. Merging these 2 pages would be very messy, and besides that, they are 2 different rulesets, and thus should have 2 different pages. Serpent King 18:51, 11 December 2015 (EST)
- oppose per Serpent. Disaster Flare (talk) 18:57, 11 December 2015 (EST)
- Oppose Nintendofan1653 (talk) 19:18, 11 December 2015 (EST)
- Why is this particular region and game the only separate page then? What's so special about Japan+Smash 64 that it deserves its own page and not, say, Japan+Brawl or Europe+Melee? I'm not saying merging is necessarily the right move, just wondering why the uniqueness. Zowayix (talk) 22:53, 11 December 2015 (EST)
- Oppose I think they should stay because DSB's rules are different. If he just decide to change it, we might as well as merge the tier lists as well. Grayblood (talk) 14:55, 12 December 2015 (EST)
How different are other games' Japanese rulesets from NA/European ones? If this is the only one with significant differences (which was my impression), it's fine for it to remain on its own and not make pages for the other games. Miles (talk) 15:42, 12 December 2015 (EST)
- While not detailed, they're apparently different enough for us to have separate pages on Japanese, European, and Brazilian tier lists... Zowayix (talk) 00:42, 13 December 2015 (EST)