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::Something like that. But what would be the criteria to determine a "active series"? Any series with a event confirmed for the current year and at least two past events? [[User:PFFP|PFFP]] ([[User talk:PFFP|talk]]) 09:53, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
::Something like that. But what would be the criteria to determine a "active series"? Any series with a event confirmed for the current year and at least two past events? [[User:PFFP|PFFP]] ([[User talk:PFFP|talk]]) 09:53, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
:::Perhaps "List of tournament series" with the restriction of regional-size events and up? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:32, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
:::Perhaps "List of tournament series" with the restriction of regional-size events and up? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:32, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
::::The list could highlight the region tag. Example:
::::Gonna create the page [[List of Tournament Series]] and we discuss the structure there. About active series, I think any tournament series with a event on the current year and at least one on the previous year can be considered active. We could make a "active series" and "retired or in hiatus" sections to differentiate. The Revival of Melee for example can be considered on hiatus, since there was no event scheduled to 2015, but [https://twitter.com/AlukardNY/status/632054821973966848 the organizer has plans for the future]. [[User:PFFP|PFFP]] ([[User talk:PFFP|talk]]) 15:26, 15 August 2015 (EDT)
::::{|class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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!N° Editions!!Name!!Region!!Most recent!!Next
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|'''7'''||[[Revival of Melee (tournament series)|Revival of Melee]]||[[American tournaments]]||[[Revival of Melee 7]]||TBA
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|'''6'''||[[Apex (tournament series)|Apex]]||[[American tournaments]]||[[Apex 2015]]||TBA
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|'''5'''||[[EVO]]||[[American tournaments]]||[[EVO 2015]]||TBA
|-
|'''5'''||[[B.E.A.S.T (tournament series)|B.E.A.S.T]]||[[European tournaments]]||[[B.E.A.S.T 5]]||Early 2016
|-
|'''5'''||[[The Big House (tournament series)|The Big House]]||[[American tournaments]]||[[The Big House 4]]||[[The Big House 5]]
|}
::::Or something more fancy using wiki text:
=== Tournament Series ===
{|class="wikitable collapsible" style="text-align:center"
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![[Apex (tournament series)|Apex]]!!Year
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|[[Apex 2009]]||2009
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|[[Apex 2010]]||2010
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|[[Apex 2012]]||2012
|-
|}
 
{|class="wikitable collapsible" style="text-align:center"
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![[EVO]]!!Year
|-
|[[EVO World 2007|EVO 2007]]||2007
|-
|[[Apex 2008]]||2008
|-
|[[EVO 2013]]||2013
|-
|[[EVO 2014]]||2014
|-
|}

Revision as of 14:26, August 15, 2015

Should we do a "Local Tournaments" section, organized by state? I think it would be a good idea to list repeating tournaments (bi-weeklies, monthlies, and bi-monthlies). --Technomancer 08:36, August 6, 2006 (GMT)

I think that's a good idea. On another note, shouldn't Tournaments be a Category? Schweppes 05:57, January 7, 2007 (GMT)
It should at least be a list, so I'll make that move. MaskedMarth (t c) 12:51, May 18, 2007 (GMT)

Caveman??

Can anyone explain what this thing is about "going into caveman time" or whatever is? There's no explanation. I may just edit it out... - Gargomon251 (talk)

Deletion

Having a list of major tournaments organized by location is pretty useful for a wiki that's meant to be geared towards players looking to get into the competitive scene, it just needs a bit of updating from someone who knows the Melee/Brawl scene well. As such, I propose that the delete tag is removed, and replaced with cleanup and stub tags. PenguinofDeath 19:44, 16 February 2012 (EST)

How would that be better than categories like "American tournaments"? Toomai Glittershine ??? The Hammer 19:45, 16 February 2012 (EST)
I would support turning this into a list of regionals/nationals. There wouldn't be too much to list, it wouldn't have the same function as the tournament listing categories, and it wouldn't be perpetually outdated. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 21:26, 16 February 2012 (EST)

Bump. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 10:00, 17 August 2012 (EDT)

Bump again. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 11:45, 20 August 2012 (EDT)

Support It would be useful to have a list of major tournaments, along with a brief description and the results. I propose having it in table format, but if other options would look better, that's fine. Mr. AnonAnon.pngtalk 12:21, 20 August 2012 (EDT)

If you can keep it reasonably up-to-date with a certain notability standard, I don't really have a problem with this page existing. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Free 20:06, 20 August 2012 (EDT)

Agreed. Besides, there are way more Major Melee tournaments than the ones currently listed so we need to add some. And this propose would probably make this article more organized. Dots The Asian NintenNESsprite.png 20:45, 20 August 2012 (EDT)

Melee Changes

If you look at the Melee year in review, you'll see there are lists of the 25 biggest tournaments of the year, and tournaments that had over 100 entrants. Personally, I think "National Tournaments" is such an outdated and flawed term, and using the two categories listed earlier would be much better instead. Nocturnal Dragon (talk) 14:26, 16 March 2014 (EDT)

If you're suggesting that "national tournament" is a poor term to be using, then we might as well delete the page altogether and use categories such as "Tournaments of 100+ entrants" to group tournaments. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Breegull 18:50, 16 March 2014 (EDT)

Yeah, but you could just rename the page Nocturnal Dragon (talk) 19:13, 16 March 2014 (EDT)

Source?

Can we get a reliable tournament that mentions all of these tournaments as nationals? Otherwise it's the the opinion of whomever edited the page.--Dinodomain (talk) 14:58, 28 January 2015 (EST)

The rankings category on SmashBoards has essentially all of these tournaments listed as nationals, which is about as close to a reliable source as you're gonna get. Plus, just objectively looking at the talent pool and recent results is enough to identify the majority of these tournaments as majors. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 16:32, 28 January 2015 (EST)
So how many top pros in the field of a tournament does it take for it to become a national?--Dinodomain (talk) 15:40, 30 January 2015 (EST)
It's less about the quantity of players than it is the quality of players (although tournament series like EVO/Apex/MLG/The Big House contain plenty of both). Northeastern Smash Attack 2, for example, had more than 200 players, but the talent pool itself was significantly lacking in comparison to other tournaments with comparable sizes, lacking real big hitters like Mango, Armada, PPMD, Hungrybox, Mew2King, Leffen, Axe, or Hax, who have managed to take the majority of top spots at the largest tournaments throughout 2014. Hope this helps a bit. PokemonMasterJamal3 (talk) 18:09, 30 January 2015 (EST)

List of Long-running Tournament Series

While looking at pages to improve, I noted there's no hub to find the major tournament series currently active (or inactive series). We use a bottom page category box to list all the events on a tournament series, but there's no page to list them. Would this be a valuable page?

This page's goal would be to answer the simple question "What are the currently active long running tournament series?". It's easy to think of Apex, them B.E.A.S.T., The Big House and EVO (of sorts), but that's it? The page would gather all tournament series pages and give a interesting view on the traditional Smash events contrasted by largest smash events. An example of what I have in mind:

Rank Name N° Editions Most recent Next
1 Revival of Melee 7 Revival of Melee 7 TBA
2 Apex 6 Apex 2015 TBA
3 EVO 5 EVO 2015 TBA
4 B.E.A.S.T 5 B.E.A.S.T 5 Early 2016
5 The Big House 5 The Big House 4 The Big House 5

--PFFP (talk) 23:06, 13 August 2015 (EDT)

PS: if the page is rejected, I still support we at least create a new category, "Tournament Series" to tag those pages accordingly. PFFP (talk) 09:12, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
If you are suggesting a List of active tournament series page, then I'm in Serpent King (talk) 09:22, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
Something like that. But what would be the criteria to determine a "active series"? Any series with a event confirmed for the current year and at least two past events? PFFP (talk) 09:53, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
Perhaps "List of tournament series" with the restriction of regional-size events and up? Miles (talk) 11:32, 14 August 2015 (EDT)
Gonna create the page List of Tournament Series and we discuss the structure there. About active series, I think any tournament series with a event on the current year and at least one on the previous year can be considered active. We could make a "active series" and "retired or in hiatus" sections to differentiate. The Revival of Melee for example can be considered on hiatus, since there was no event scheduled to 2015, but the organizer has plans for the future. PFFP (talk) 15:26, 15 August 2015 (EDT)