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{{cleanup|Data is unclear; on what character were these KO percentages and knockback values obtained from, and where in what stage are the KO percentages obtained from. The data also needs fact checking, as some of these do not look correct (such as Ness' having higher listed base knockback and knockback scaling values than several other f-smashes with a listed lower KO%). Additionally, what was done on the Brawl chart in regards to KO percentages should be done here.}} | {{cleanup|Data is unclear; on what character were these KO percentages and knockback values obtained from, and where in what stage are the KO percentages obtained from. The data also needs fact checking, as some of these do not look correct (such as Ness' having higher listed base knockback and knockback scaling values than several other f-smashes with a listed lower KO%). Additionally, what was done on the Brawl chart in regards to KO percentages should be done here. Also needs separate data for different portions of the attacks, such as Marth's tipper, Mario's fire burst, etc.}} | ||
The following chart lists the approximate KO percentages and the knockback values for the strongest hitbox of each forward smash in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' (or in the case of multi-hitting smashes, the power of the attack if all hitboxes connect). For Link and Peach, each of their different forward smashes are represented on the chart separately. For the Ice Climbers, when both Climbers connect their forward smash and when only Popo connect it are represented separately. | The following chart lists the approximate KO percentages and the knockback values for the strongest hitbox of each forward smash in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' (or in the case of multi-hitting smashes, the power of the attack if all hitboxes connect). For Link and Peach, each of their different forward smashes are represented on the chart separately. For the Ice Climbers, when both Climbers connect their forward smash and when only Popo connect it are represented separately. |
Revision as of 13:16, August 11, 2015
These are charts showing the post hit data (base knockback, knockback scaling, and KO percentages) of the strongest hitbox in every forward smash (or in the case of multi-hit smashes, the values of the final hit when all hits connect) for every character in the Super Smash Bros. series. The forward smashes are given a general rank in power in comparison to other forward smashes based on the knockback produced by their strongest hitbox at critical percentage.
Chart (SSB)
Note that in Super Smash Bros., knockback values cannot be obtained, so only the KO percentages are shown. KO percentages are estimated by the knockback on Mario in the center of Dream Land.
Rank | Character | Strongest Hitbox damage | Strongest Hitbox KO percentage |
---|---|---|---|
1. | Kirby | 17% | 80% |
2. | Donkey Kong | 20% | 84% |
3. | Link | 20% | 90% |
4. | Yoshi | 18% | 92% |
5. | Captain Falcon | 18% | 95% |
5. | Ness | 18% | 95% |
5. | Pikachu | 18% | 95% |
8. | Fox | 17% | 98% |
9. | Mario | 17% | 100% |
9. | Samus | 18% | 100% |
9. | Jigglypuff | 16% | 100% |
12. | Luigi | 15% | 105% |
Chart (SSBM)
The following chart lists the approximate KO percentages and the knockback values for the strongest hitbox of each forward smash in Super Smash Bros. Melee (or in the case of multi-hitting smashes, the power of the attack if all hitboxes connect). For Link and Peach, each of their different forward smashes are represented on the chart separately. For the Ice Climbers, when both Climbers connect their forward smash and when only Popo connect it are represented separately.
The forward smashes are ranked by which KO the earliest.
Legend
- Ice Climbers
- S = only a solo Ice Climber lands his/her forward smash
- B = both Climbers land their smash
- Link
- 1st = The first slash of Link's forward smash.
- 2nd = The second slash of Link's forward smash.
- Peach
- T = Tennis racket
- G = Golf club
- P = Frying pan
Rank | Character | KO% | Base Knockback | Knockback Scaling |
---|---|---|---|---|
1. | Bowser | 70% | 30 | 1.00 |
2. | Captain Falcon | 95% | 24 | 1.00 |
3. | Marth | 96% | 80 | 0.70 |
4. | Pikachu | 99% | 25 | 0.92 |
5. | Dr. Mario | 100% | 30 | 0.97 |
6. | Jigglypuff | 103% | 10 | 1.18 |
7. | Ganondorf | 105% | 40 | 0.83 |
8. | Roy | 105% | 80 | 0.65 |
9. | Donkey Kong | 105% | 22 | 0.94 |
10. | Zelda | 115% | 45 | 0.61 |
11. | Ness | 113% | 50 | 0.62 |
12. | Ice Climbers B | 111% | 40 | 1.05 |
13. | Pichu | 112% | 71 | 0.43 |
14. | Mr. Game & Watch | 111% | 44 | 1.00 |
15. | Link 2nd | 116% | 30 | 1.00 |
16. | Mario | 113% | 25 | 0.95 |
17. | Falco | 117% | 40 | 0.90 |
18. | Luigi | 120% | 20 | 1.35 |
19. | Ice Climbers S | 123% | 40 | 0.64 |
20. | Yoshi | 130% | 32 | 0.94 |
21. | Samus | 130% | 30 | 1.04 |
22. | Young Link | 130% | 35 | 0.64 |
23. | Fox | 135% | 10 | 1.05 |
24. | Kirby | 140% | 24 | 0.96 |
25. | Mewtwo | 141% | 21 | 0.75 |
26. | Peach G | 165% | 50 | 0.36 |
27. | Link 1st | 169% | 30 | 0.85 |
28. | Peach P | 210% | 39 | 0.44 |
29. | Sheik | 246% | 37 | 0.32 |
30. | Peach T | 350% | 48 | 0.18 |
Chart (SSBB)
The following chart shows the power of the strongest hitbox of every character's forward smash in Super Smash Bros. Brawl (or in the case of multi-hitting forward smashes, the power of the attack if all hitboxes connect). For Olimar, Link, and Peach, each of their different forward smashes are represented on the chart separately. For the Ice Climbers, Popo and Nana have their forward smashes represented on the chart separately, as well as when both connect their forward smashes represented separately. In the case of Lucario, he is represented on the chart at minimum power, half power, and maximum power (however the chart does not take the stock modifier into account).
The data on the chart was collected from testing on Mario, with the approximate KO percentages based from the center of Final Destination. The forward smashes are ranked by which KO the earliest when the opponent doesn't DI.
Legend
- Lucario
- 0% = Lucario's damage at 0%
- 85% = Lucario's damage at 85%
- 170% = Lucario's damage at 170%
- Olimar
- W = White Pikmin
- Y = Yellow Pikmin
- B = Blue Pikmin
- R = Red Pikmin
- P = Purple Pikmin
- Ice Climbers
- P = only Popo lands his forward smash
- N = only Nana lands her forward smash
- B = both Climbers land their smash
- Link
- 1st = The first slash of Link's forward smash.
- 2nd = The second slash of Link's forward smash.
- Peach
- T = Tennis racket
- G = Golf club
- P = Frying pan
Rank | Character | Base knockback | Knockback scaling | KO percent with poor DI | KO percent with no DI | KO percent with good DI |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1. | King Dedede | 3698 | 55.76 | 36.80% | 44.87% | 56.08% |
2. | Ike | 3510 | 57.17 | 39.18% | 47.05% | 57.98% |
3. | Snake | 4361 | 34.30 | 40.50% | 53.62% | 71.84% |
4. | Lucario 170% | 2615 | 54.06 | 57.99% | 66.32% | 77.86% |
5. | Ganondorf | 2743 | 51.42 | 58.48% | 67.23% | 79.39% |
6. | Bowser | 2946 | 48.24 | 58.13% | 67.45% | 80.41% |
7. | Mr. Game & Watch | 2996 | 46.65 | 59.04% | 68.68% | 82.08% |
8. | Donkey Kong | 2646 | 51.49 | 60.28% | 69.02% | 81.16% |
9. | Luigi | 2286 | 54.58 | 63.47% | 71.71% | 83.16% |
10. | Marth | 3680 | 35.00 | 59.14% | 72.00% | 89.86% |
11. | Charizard | 2880 | 44.31 | 64.77% | 74.93% | 89.03% |
12. | Link 2nd | 2317 | 47.15 | 72.81% | 82.35% | 95.61% |
13. | Ness | 2938 | 38.41 | 73.21% | 84.93% | 101.20% |
14. | Kirby | 2523 | 42.82 | 75.36% | 85.87% | 100.47% |
15. | Lucas | 2842 | 37.18 | 78.21% | 90.32% | 107.13% |
16. | Olimar P | 2049 | 45.22 | 81.84% | 91.80% | 105.62% |
17. | Captain Falcon | 2072 | 44.53 | 82.60% | 92.70% | 106.74% |
18. | Mario | 2136 | 42.84 | 84.36% | 94.86% | 109.45% |
19. | Pikachu | 3208 | 31.43 | 80.88% | 95.20% | 115.08% |
20. | Toon Link | 2557 | 37.78 | 84.52% | 96.43% | 112.97% |
21. | Lucario 85% | 2069 | 41.36 | 89.00% | 99.88% | 114.99% |
22. | Ivysaur | 1930 | 42.39 | 90.12% | 100.73% | 115.48% |
23. | Jigglypuff | 1660 | 44.10 | 92.74% | 102.95% | 117.12% |
24. | Wario | 2180 | 38.50 | 92.73% | 104.42% | 120.65% |
25. | Zelda | 2188 | 37.43 | 95.16% | 107.19% | 123.88% |
26. | Peach T | 2354 | 35.65 | 95.26% | 107.88% | 125.41% |
27. | Falco | 2359 | 35.57 | 95.33% | 107.98% | 125.56% |
28. | Pit | 2309 | 35.91 | 95.82% | 108.35% | 125.76% |
29. | Ice Climbers P | 2086 | 37.43 | 97.89% | 109.91% | 126.61% |
30. | Sonic | 2082 | 37.28 | 98.39% | 110.46% | 127.23% |
31. | Yoshi | 1839 | 39.39 | 99.29% | 110.71% | 126.58% |
32. | Meta Knight | 2029 | 37.66 | 98.81% | 110.75% | 127.35% |
33. | Ice Climbers B | 2461 | 33.59 | 97.92% | 111.31% | 129.92% |
34. | Samus | 1783 | 38.03 | 104.31% | 116.15% | 132.58% |
35. | R.O.B. | 1993 | 36.13 | 103.99% | 116.44% | 133.74% |
36. | Squirtle | 1718 | 38.04 | 105.99% | 117.82% | 134.25% |
37. | Diddy Kong | 2416 | 32.08 | 103.93% | 117.96% | 137.44% |
38. | Link 1st | 1900 | 36.38 | 105.83% | 118.20% | 135.38% |
39. | Fox | 1490 | 38.81 | 109.77% | 121.36% | 137.46% |
39. | Olimar R | 1490 | 38.81 | 109.77% | 121.36% | 137.46% |
39. | Olimar B | 1490 | 38.81 | 109.77% | 121.36% | 137.46% |
42. | Ice Climbers N | 2003 | 33.59 | 111.55% | 124.95% | 143.55% |
43. | Peach P | 1972 | 32.37 | 116.71% | 130.61% | 149.92% |
44. | Peach G | 2462 | 28.30 | 116.18% | 132.08% | 154.17% |
45. | Zero Suit Samus | 2008 | 30.86 | 121.26% | 135.84% | 156.09% |
46. | Wolf | 2056 | 30.18 | 122.40% | 137.31% | 158.02% |
47. | Sheik | 2573 | 26.08 | 121.82% | 139.07% | 163.04% |
48. | Lucario 0% | 1687 | 29.15 | 139.38% | 154.82% | 176.26% |
49. | Olimar W | 983 | 20.86 | 228.52% | 250.10% | 280.06% |