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::* No rage, 1.2x Launch Rate: Just offscreen. Roughly same as 200% rage and 1.0x launch rate.
::* No rage, 1.2x Launch Rate: Just offscreen. Roughly same as 200% rage and 1.0x launch rate.
::I want to conclude that both statements in the article are false because of this, but I would like to see more extensive research (please link me to some if there is already). What it appears to be is "at maxiumum rage of 200%, attacks deal 1.2x the knockback dealt normally." [[User:B2jammer|b2jammer]] ([[User talk:B2jammer|talk]]) 20:40, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
::I want to conclude that both statements in the article are false because of this, but I would like to see more extensive research (please link me to some if there is already). What it appears to be is "at maxiumum rage of 200%, attacks deal 1.2x the knockback dealt normally." [[User:B2jammer|b2jammer]] ([[User talk:B2jammer|talk]]) 20:40, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
::I undid the edit so that it shows the values that I added to the article. The values added by the previous user contradict each other in a mathematical standpoint. Even if you assume that the rage multiplier begins at 0%, which is impossible, then the highest that the rage multiplier could ever be would be 1.9 because it was stated that it starts increasing at 10% damage. The values were likely made up, and a value of 2.0 for a knockback multiplier would be incredibly high and make many attacks KO extremely early. It was already known that the rage multiplier stops increasing at 150% or a value very close to that, anyways. [[User:LimitCrown|LimitCrown]] ([[User talk:LimitCrown|talk]]) 04:41, 31 July 2015 (EDT)
::I undid the edit so that it shows the values that I added to the article. The values added by the previous user contradict each other in a mathematical standpoint. Even if you assume that the rage multiplier begins at 0%, which is impossible, then the highest that the rage multiplier could ever be would be 1.9 because it was stated that it starts increasing at 10% damage. Those values were likely made up, and a value of 2.0 for a knockback multiplier would be incredibly high and make many attacks KO extremely early. It was already known that the rage multiplier stops increasing at 150% or a value very close to that, anyways. [[User:LimitCrown|LimitCrown]] ([[User talk:LimitCrown|talk]]) 04:41, 31 July 2015 (EDT)

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Rage's Origins?

In MARIO & LUIGI RPG 3: BOWSER'S INSIDE STORY (notable for being the most critically acclaimed RPG MARIO game and the first game to feature Bowser Koopa as the main protagonist), there was a special status unique to the Great Demon King called "Fury" that was similar to SMASH BROS. for Wii U's Rage in both function and appearance: Bowser becomes stronger while flashing red and emitting steam from his body. Both states also activate under the same circumstances: when the character takes a considerable amount of damage. Could Rage actually be Fury from the Great Demon King's first starring game or is it all just a mere coincidence? Either way, the resemblance is quite uncanny. 72.50.82.3 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.50.82.3 (talkcontribs) 10:08, 11 January 2015‎ (EST)

It's an idea that a whole bunch of games have, it has no clear origin. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Eggster 10:51, 11 January 2015 (EST)
I'm quite aware of that, but you must remember that Nintendo likes to fill their games with references (for nostalgic purpose), and with SMASH BROS. being a crossover of their franchises, we shouldn't automatically rule out the possibility that MARIO & LUIGI 3 could be the source for Rage.107.72.164.75

Which is true?

"...maxes out at 200% damage. At maximum rage, attacks will deal 2.0x the amount of knockback that would normally be dealt."
"The multiplier increases by one tenth every 10%, until it caps out at 2.0."

These two lines are not synonymous with each other. The first line implies that the knockback multiplier is 1+0.1(200)/10, equal to 3.0. May someone please address this? Chilex (talk) 03:26, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

Bump. Chilex (talk) 13:41, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

What I read is that the first is saying it maxes out at 200% damage with a 2.0x amount of knockback, and the multiplier increases by one tenth (0.1) every 10% damage until it reaches 2.0x, which theoretically would be at 200%. Seems synonymous to me. But I suck at math. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 13:55, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
The default multiplier (by definition) is 1.0x. It goes up a step (0.1x) every 10%. At 200%, twenty steps have been made, so the multiplier has gone up by 2.0x. 2+1=3, so at 200%, the second line implies that the multiplier is 3.0x, not 2.0x. Chilex (talk) 14:00, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
...hmmm yeah. Idk which one is true then. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 14:02, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
I just tested it with two Marios on Omega Battlefield, using a slightly charged, forward-facing Down Smash on a 100% Mario target at the center of the stage. Results:
  • No rage, 1.0x Launch Rate: Halfway between camera edge and platform.
  • 200% rage, 1.0x Launch Rate: Just offscreen.
  • No rage, 2.0x Launch Rate: KO! (a fast one at that)
  • No rage, 1.2x Launch Rate: Just offscreen. Roughly same as 200% rage and 1.0x launch rate.
I want to conclude that both statements in the article are false because of this, but I would like to see more extensive research (please link me to some if there is already). What it appears to be is "at maxiumum rage of 200%, attacks deal 1.2x the knockback dealt normally." b2jammer (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2015 (EDT)
I undid the edit so that it shows the values that I added to the article. The values added by the previous user contradict each other in a mathematical standpoint. Even if you assume that the rage multiplier begins at 0%, which is impossible, then the highest that the rage multiplier could ever be would be 1.9 because it was stated that it starts increasing at 10% damage. Those values were likely made up, and a value of 2.0 for a knockback multiplier would be incredibly high and make many attacks KO extremely early. It was already known that the rage multiplier stops increasing at 150% or a value very close to that, anyways. LimitCrown (talk) 04:41, 31 July 2015 (EDT)