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why call it Pallete Swap? Its official name is color changes... [[User:JtM|JtM =^]]] ([[User talk:JtM|talk]]) 08:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
why call it Pallete Swap? Its official name is color changes... [[User:JtM|JtM =^]]] ([[User talk:JtM|talk]]) 08:14, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:Not according to Wikipedia ರ_ರ <font face="Elephant">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Koopa Klaus</span>]]</font><font face="Elephant"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Happy Holidays</span>]]</sup></small></font> 08:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
:Not according to Wikipedia ರ_ರ <font face="Elephant">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Koopa Klaus</span>]]</font><font face="Elephant"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Happy Holidays</span>]]</sup></small></font> 08:15, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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== No TOCRIGHT plz ==
== No TOCRIGHT plz ==


http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/cd-i/images/c/c3/PSPS.PNG
[http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/cd-i/images/c/c3/PSPS.PNG]


As you can see, the TOC goes behind the images.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 20:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
As you can see, the TOC goes behind the images.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 20:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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:<small>nau?</small> Or you could click Bowser in TOC. People may be looking for a specific character, but can't due to it being blocked by the TOC.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 20:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:<small>nau?</small> Or you could click Bowser in TOC. People may be looking for a specific character, but can't due to it being blocked by the TOC.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 20:39, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:On my comp it looks fine. Look. I'm just gonna upload the pics. '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 20:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:On my comp it looks fine. Look. I'm just gonna upload the pics. '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 20:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yesz!<a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i43.tinypic.com/292uttj.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>
::Yesz![http://i43.tinypic.com/292uttj.jpg]
Fail<a href="http://tinypic.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i40.tinypic.com/n63n1f.jpg" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a> '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 20:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Fail[http://i40.tinypic.com/n63n1f.jpg] '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 20:57, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 
==More TOC Stuff==
 
The Table of Contents is totally separating Bowser's thumbnail from his name. Sincerely, [[User:Smash-jay|me.]]


==obvious reference is obvious==
==obvious reference is obvious==
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Link's black costume text should be rewritten. It should have this text intead:  
Link's black costume text should be rewritten. It should have this text intead:  


Based off [[Dark Link]] who originated from Zelda II: The Adventure of Link and appeared again in Ocarina of Time. His appearance is derived from Dark Link's cameo appearance in Twilight Princess. He also gains the negative version of his shield, symbolizing his negativity/darkness. {{unsigned|Mr Alex|06:21, 4 August 2009}}
Based off [[Dark Link]] who originated from Zelda II: The Adventure of Link and appeared again in Ocarina of Time. His appearance is derived from Dark Link's cameo appearance in Twilight Princess. He also gains the negative version of his shield, symbolizing his negativity/darkness. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Mr Alex|Mr Alex]] ([[User talk:Mr Alex|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mr Alex|contribs]]) 06:21, 4 August 2009</small>


== Props, BNK. ==
== Props, BNK. ==
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*Green = Snake's Bandana?
*Green = Snake's Bandana?
*Blue = Sonic's Eyes?
*Blue = Sonic's Eyes?
Think about it, is it really an coincidence, compared to the ''Melee'' costumes where he had different? {{unsigned|94.220.63.115|11:05, 26 December 2009 (UTC)}}
Think about it, is it really an coincidence, compared to the ''Melee'' costumes where he had different? <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:94.220.63.115|94.220.63.115]] ([[User talk:94.220.63.115|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/94.220.63.115|contribs]]) 11:05, 26 December 2009 (UTC)</small>
:How on earth does Blue Pikachu have Sonic's eyes? [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:33, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
:How on earth does Blue Pikachu have Sonic's eyes? [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:33, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
::He means Pikachu's goggles resemble Sonic's eyes. And it's probably not coincidence, as in Melee he had the same red costume, but a different blue and green one. It's worth being put into the article. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 17:57, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
::He means Pikachu's goggles resemble Sonic's eyes. And it's probably not coincidence, as in Melee he had the same red costume, but a different blue and green one. It's worth being put into the article. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 17:57, December 26, 2009 (UTC)
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::::*Snake has a Bandana right above his eyes, Pikachu too.
::::*Snake has a Bandana right above his eyes, Pikachu too.
::::*Sonic has big white spaces in his face... his eyes, Pikachu too... kinda...
::::*Sonic has big white spaces in his face... his eyes, Pikachu too... kinda...
::::{{unsigned|94.220.63.115|10:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)}}
::::<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:94.220.63.115|94.220.63.115]] ([[User talk:94.220.63.115|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/94.220.63.115|contribs]]) 10:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)</small>
:::::Peach and Zelda both wear dresses, obviously they're references to each other. Or maybe Peach/Zelda/Samus are all female- obviously this is an allusion! <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 16:04, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
:::::Peach and Zelda both wear dresses, obviously they're references to each other. Or maybe Peach/Zelda/Samus are all female- obviously this is an allusion! <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 16:04, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
::::::They look quite alike in my opinion. Palette swaps arn't ment to be perfect refrences. And unlike the peach/zelda thing, the resemblences are the same color. the goggles look startlingly like sonic's eyes. The bandana looks very much like snake's. And mario's hat looks somewhat like the red hat. {{unsigned|98.117.158.220|20:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)}}
::::::They look quite alike in my opinion. Palette swaps arn't ment to be perfect refrences. And unlike the peach/zelda thing, the resemblences are the same color. the goggles look startlingly like sonic's eyes. The bandana looks very much like snake's. And mario's hat looks somewhat like the red hat. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] ([[User talk:98.117.158.220|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|contribs]]) 20:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)</small>
:::::::The palette swaps are supposed to be:
:::::::The palette swaps are supposed to be:
:::::::*Red = Red's hat
:::::::*Red = Red's hat
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:::::::*Blue = Pichu's melee goggles
:::::::*Blue = Pichu's melee goggles
:::::::I really don't see any of the resemblances you mentioned.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 20:47, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I really don't see any of the resemblances you mentioned.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 20:47, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
::::::::Because you don't want to XD {{unsigned|94.220.63.115|18:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)}}
::::::::Because you don't want to XD <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:94.220.63.115|94.220.63.115]] ([[User talk:94.220.63.115|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/94.220.63.115|contribs]]) 18:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)</small>
:::::::::I really hope you were being sarcastic there. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 19:08, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::I really hope you were being sarcastic there. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 19:08, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::What!! Blue costume supposed to be Pichu?! What!! That's an even more obscure refrence than the one being suggested. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 20:38, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::What!! Blue costume supposed to be Pichu?! What!! That's an even more obscure refrence than the one being suggested. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 20:38, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::How is that obscure? It was one of his costumes in Brawl. Where else would they be from? - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] ([[User talk:Gargomon251|talk]]) 21:04, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::How is that obscure? It was one of his costumes in Brawl. Where else would they be from? - [[User:Gargomon251|Gargomon251]] ([[User talk:Gargomon251|talk]]) 21:04, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
::::::::::::Wow chill he was just pointing something out. No need to ridicule him.[[User:Highwaypumpy|Highwaypumpy]] ([[User talk:Highwaypumpy|talk]]) 20:37, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::Wow chill he was just pointing something out. No need to ridicule him.[[User:Highwaypumpy|Highwaypumpy]] ([[User talk:Highwaypumpy|talk]]) 20:37, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::::Hmm I should be careful with releasing my opinion here. {{unsigned|94.220.63.115|14:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)}}
:::::::::::::Hmm I should be careful with releasing my opinion here. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:94.220.63.115|94.220.63.115]] ([[User talk:94.220.63.115|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/94.220.63.115|contribs]]) 14:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)</small>


==Locked==
==Locked==
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==Sonic - Yellow==
==Sonic - Yellow==
on the yellow palette, Sonic's shoes remind me in the Sega Master System/Game Gear version of Sonic the Hedgehog (1)... his shoes looked more yellowish instead of red, what they are supposed to be, I guess that's because of technical issues on this early console.
on the yellow palette, Sonic's shoes remind me in the Sega Master System/Game Gear version of Sonic the Hedgehog (1)... his shoes looked more yellowish instead of red, what they are supposed to be, I guess that's because of technical issues on this early console.
==Zamus==
How does her black costume resemble bikini suit samus in any way? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 00:24, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
:The bikini might have been black.
:And... and my article. It's been featured. :') [[Special:Contributions/67.10.177.73|67.10.177.73]] 01:00, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
::No, I've played the original ''Metroid'' and beaten it; Bikini suit samus is redish. Besides, even if BSS was black it still is as worth mentioning as Blue MK's costume is as a resemblense to DMK from ''KatAM''. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 01:40, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
:::Two words - ''Super Metroid''. But yeah, it doesn't deserve mention. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 02:54, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
::::Then can you please remove it. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 03:38, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Done. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 08:28, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
==Meta Knight==
Re: the perceived "Dark Meta Knight" costume.  This is an official image of Dark Meta Knight.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/kirby/en/images/7/79/DARK_Meta_Knight.JPG
*different color eyes
*different color cape
*different color sword
*different color shoes
NEVER mention this again. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:53, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
:Wrong. That's simply official art. The in-game image of DMK looks quite different. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 03:40, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
:And no, the cape is the same color. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 03:41, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
::For those wondering, Miles obtained this image from the [w:c:kirby:Kirby Wiki|Kirby Wiki]. Also, I agree, since this has been brought up a few times.
::''98'' - http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/kirby/en/images/a/aa/Metadark.jpg (it actually looks the same, with no resemblance to MK's blue costume in Brawl; another note - DMK removes his cape in-game) [[Special:Contributions/67.10.177.73|67.10.177.73]] 03:43, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
== Small addition ==
Even if the blue Meta Knight costume isn't the same as Dark Meta Knight, I have seen that costume used to potray an evil Meta Knight/evil player in several machinimas because of his similar look to Dark Link/Dark Toon Link.  Just putting that out there.
[[User:SightsX|SightsX]] ([[User talk:SightsX|talk]]) 19:21, February 25, 2010 (UTC)SightsX
:Machinima is hardly an effective source for such things.  NO. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:55, February 25, 2010 (UTC)
Fair enough.
[[User:SightsX|SightsX]] ([[User talk:SightsX|talk]]) 16:18, February 26, 2010 (UTC)SightsX
== For Luigi ==
I realize the page has been protected so only administrators can edit, so I want to make a suggestion for Luigi's orange outfit:
In ''Super Mario Bros. 3'', the Mario Bros. would don an orange hat, orange shirt, & red overalls. This costume of Luigi's features the orange shirt and cap, but not the red overalls.
This is probably a coincidence, but the Balloon Fighter thing I mentioned about Mario's blue costume is may be coincidental too. --wikia:c:pacman:User:SuperSonicRider|<span style="color:blue;">SSRider</span> [[User talk:SuperSonicRider|<small><span style="color:red;">Wanna Chat?</span></small>]] 01:02, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, and this refers to the original SMB3, not the recreations. --wikia:c:pacman:User:SuperSonicRider|<span style="color:blue;">SSRider</span> [[User talk:SuperSonicRider|<small><span style="color:red;">Wanna Chat?</span></small>]] 01:04, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:proof plz [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:00, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
::Here ya go. [http://www.mariowiki.com/Image:Fire_Mario_SMB3.PNG] --wikia:c:pacman:User:SuperSonicRider|<span style="color:blue;">SSRider</span> [[User talk:SuperSonicRider|<small><span style="color:red;">Wanna Chat?</span></small>]] 10:56, March 10, 2010 (UTC) Also, this refers to the ingame sprite, as the artwork has the traditional white-red mix. --wikia:c:pacman:User:SuperSonicRider|<span style="color:blue;">SSRider</span> [[User talk:SuperSonicRider|<small><span style="color:red;">Wanna Chat?</span></small>]] 10:58, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
:::Based on the differing color of overalls, I doubt that this is a reference. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:55, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
== Pokemon ==
"Emerald version of Pokemon Advance" There's no such thing as Pokemon Advance. It's just called Pokemon Emerald Version. Also the female progagnist of FireRed/LeafGrean is named Leaf so that should be noted by Jigglypuff wearing her hat.--[[User:Lego3400|Lego3400]] ([[User talk:Lego3400|talk]]) 17:08, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
== Samus ==
"Also resembles the Gravity Suit in all Metroid games prior to Super Metroid."
That's a completely nonsensical statement. The Gravity Suit was invented for Super Metroid, and did not exist in any games prior to it. [[User:Dazuro|Dazuro]] ([[User talk:Dazuro|talk]]) 05:12, March 31, 2010 (UTC)
I think he/she meant "post Super Metroid" and not "prior to Super Metroid." [[User:Nick3069|Nick3069]] ([[User talk:Nick3069|talk]]) April 16, 2010
===Pink (Red) suit===
That suit is the Gravity Suit from Super Metroid! I own Super Metroid, I've finished the game at least a dozen times and I can tell you that that pink suit is the gravity suit from that game!
I went to the Wikitroid and Smash Bros. DOJO, I didn't see anything saying that the pink suit is "based on the appearance of the Varia Suit of the original ''Metroid'' when missiles are selected." I'm not saying it's not, but it looks a lot more like the gravity Suit to me.
I'm mot colorblind! There is a difference between the Gravity Suit in  Super Metroid and the one in Metroid Prime and it's the same difference as the pink suit and the purple suit. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Nick3069|Nick3069]] ([[User talk:Nick3069|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nick3069|contribs]]) 00:21, April 17, 2010 (UTC)</small>
:Based on [http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/File:Gravity_Suit_in_Super.jpg these] [http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/File:Gravity_Suit_sprite.png two] images from Wikitroid, I can see why you think it's pink - but I say it's purple. The highlights are a magenta colour, and the shading is definitely purple - pink doesn't have the same properties. It's certainly not the same shade of purple as Brawl's version, but it's more purple than pink. (And sign all talk page comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.) [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 00:30, April 17, 2010 (UTC)
== Color Classification ==
Not to say "it must be done", but shouldn't the colors of the pallete be classified as the colors they're listed as in the game (such as ROB's "purple" pallete being considered the same color as peach's regular).  I get this just off of tourney which says, unless im mistaken, that Warios first regular (the wario ware outfit) is light blue. If i'm wrong or you feel that it should stay the same, feel free to just delete this message. --[[User:Zordon123456789mlw7|Zordon123456789mlw7]] ([[User talk:Zordon123456789mlw7|talk]]) 04:29, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
:I don't think there's any official or in-game list of what costumes are named what colours, so I'm not really sure what you're talking about. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 13:29, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
== Pokemon Trainer ==
I'd change it,  but it's protected. The red color for Ivysaur is based off of its evolution, Venusaur. Squirtle's red color is based off Wartortle, its evolution. ;) So, somebody change it :D '''<font color="#0000FF">*</font><font color="#1E90FF">*</font><font color="#0000FF">*</font>''[[User:Supernicknobros|<font color="#0000FF">Super!</font>]]''<font color="#0000FF">~</font>[[User talk:Supernicknobros|<font color="#1E90FF">Nickno</font>]]''' 23:52, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
:I have to disagree. While some aspects make sense (Wartortle's shell has a red hue to it, Venusaur's plant is more red than Ivysaur's, etc.), the skin eliminates all resemblance. However, I will ponder this, as Charizard's red skin may be based off of Charmeleon, who, like the other two Pokemon (Venusaur, Wartortle), has something on him (in this case, skin) that gives off more red than its post/pre-evolution. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 00:13, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
::"Charizard - Red: Resembles its pre-evolution, Charmeleon. " already there [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:45, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
:::Your forgetting Squirtle's red skin is purple, just like Wartortle's skin. And Since that's 2 out of 3, Ivysaur's resemblance must have been purposeful. '''<font color="#0000FF">*</font><font color="#1E90FF">*</font><font color="#0000FF">*</font>''[[User:Supernicknobros|<font color="#0000FF">Super!</font>]]''<font color="#0000FF">~</font>[[User talk:Supernicknobros|<font color="#1E90FF">Nickno</font>]]''' 21:18, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
::::And I stay ignored....geese. [[User:Supernicknobros|Supernicknobros]] ([[User talk:Supernicknobros|talk]]) 03:33, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
::::(stupid sig messing up) '''<font color="#0000FF">*</font><font color="#1E90FF">*</font><font color="#0000FF">*</font>''[[User:Supernicknobros|<font color="#0000FF">Super!</font>]]''<font color="#0000FF">~</font>[[User talk:Supernicknobros|<font color="#1E90FF">Nickno</font>]]''' 03:36, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
== light purple or white ==
do you agree that link's 4th color in SSB look more like white than light purple? 
also, how come so many colors are titled "brown" rather than "black"? most look more black than brown if u ask me... Zelda101 02:22, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
:The Brawl costume in question is less than white, and the SSB64 one is about the same. The SSBM version does look very white, but it does have some purplish tints, and there's no reason to have changed it between games. So I say light purple, even though it looks white at times. As for brown versus black, which particular ones are you talking about? (By the way, don't sign posts with <nowiki>~~~~zelda101~~~~</nowiki>. Sign them with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> only.) [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 03:05, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
::well i mean like samus's black/brown outfit in SSBM. it look more like black than brown. and mario's black/brown costume. Zelda101 03:13, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
:::I think the purple part is a matter of opinion. Why can't we just call it "purple/white"?[[User:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Orange;">highway</span>]] [[User talk:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Red;">pumpy</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Yellow;">[[Special:Contributions/highwaypumpy|sfs</span></sup>]] 13:31, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
::::We could call it "lavender", but that's not exactly the most well-known colour word. Calling it "purple/white" implies that there are two colours, not one colour that some people might interpret differently - by calling it "light purple", someone can stare at it and think "oh, I think I can see what it's talking about". As for brown vs. black - yeah, okay, Mario's darkest outfit looks really black in Brawl, but in Melee it's just brown enough to make you wonder, and in SSB64 it's definitely brown. Samus' darkest colour is about the same as Mario's in SSBM, while it looks more brown than black in Brawl and very black in SSB64. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 14:14, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/e/ef/ForemanSpikeSprite.PNG
Mario's brown outfit is based on the undoubtedly brown outfit of Foreman Spike in ''Wrecking Crew '98''.  (Apparently the Japanese site for the original SSB confirmed this.)
[http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Blue_Ring_(The_Legend_of_Zelda) It's unreasonable to claim that Link's outfit created by the '''''Blue''''' Ring would turn him white.]
[http://metroid.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Suit And the brown for Samus is clearly this in Brawl], and though MP2 comes after SSB and SSBM I think the colors are pretty comparable. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:46, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
Most people see Link's outfit as white, so why not just call it "light purple/white"? I do agree with you on the topic of brown/black outfits.[[User:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Orange;">highway</span>]] [[User talk:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Red;">pumpy</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Yellow;">[[Special:Contributions/highwaypumpy|sfs</span></sup>]] 22:02, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
Useless debate is useless. You can go back and forth on what shade whoever's outfit <x> is, but honestly you could be doing much more useful and productive things. This topic is always going to be subjective- no reason to continue adding in "I think <X>'s costume is <y>!" and like and such as. Unless Nintendo drops by and says it's a specific color, just leave it as vague as possible and be done with it. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 22:45, April 7, 2010 (UTC)
:+1.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 04:58, April 8, 2010 (UTC)
== Lucario in Team Battle==
It might be a minor note, but since Samus has a similar note under her palette swap, this might be valid.  In Team Battle, if Lucario is on Blue Team, his color will be his default (Tan) color rather than his Blue color.  I don't know, it's up to you guys if this is valid information or not.
[[User:SightsX|SightsX]] ([[User talk:SightsX|talk]]) 15:25, April 7, 2010 (UTC)SightsX