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#Good idea to tell people to not write that stuff; I'm not sure it should be treated as a "request to be banned". Instead, I would just say that it's considered disruption, which is a bannable offense.
#Good idea to tell people to not write that stuff; I'm not sure it should be treated as a "request to be banned". Instead, I would just say that it's considered disruption, which is a bannable offense.
[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 15:00, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
[[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 15:00, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
:As I understand it,
:#It's actually not. Telling someone they'll be blocked for some general douchebaggery doesn't only apply to vandals. In fact, the principal concern here appears to ''not'' be with vandals.
:#The admin noticeboard is a ghost town, but maybe that would get it some use.
:#We don't have an operational definition of disruption, and I highly doubt that 'You can ban me for this but...' disrupts anything. Typically it's the thing after 'You can ban me for this but...' that's disruptive, but not always, but if you introduce a comment with such a qualification, it nearly ''always'' is something that ought not to be said, for one reason or another, and this policy gives a nice, clean, easy way to get rid of the troll who says it without dealing with the muddled definition of disruption.
:[[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 16:17, March 1, 2010 (UTC)


As I understand it,
 
#It's actually not. Telling someone they'll be blocked for some general douchebaggery doesn't only apply to vandals. In fact, the principal concern here appears to ''not'' be with vandals.
Points one and two: Users threaten other users with/request blocks so very rarely that there's no point having a policy against doing so. Point three: The only people who say things like that in their posts have little to no wiki experience, so they wouldn't read the policy, and they never return to the wiki, so banning them is pointless. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 17:29, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
#The admin noticeboard is a ghost town, but maybe that would get it some use.
:I agree that this policy is rather limited in scope of application, but I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. I'm not saying that this will solve all (or even most) of the problems on the wiki, but there is not anything wrong with having a policy that is rarely but correctly applied.  Also, as for the third point, ignorance of policy is no excuse, and let's make sure that they don't come back in that case. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 17:32, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
#We don't have an operational definition of disruption, and I highly doubt that 'You can ban me for this but...' disrupts anything. Typically it's the thing after 'You can ban me for this but...' that's disruptive, but not always, but if you introduce a comment with such a qualification, it nearly ''always'' is something that ought not to be said, for one reason or another, and this policy gives a nice, clean, easy way to get rid of the troll who says it without dealing with the muddled definition of disruption. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 16:17, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

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Hmm. I'm unsure about this proposition.

  1. Okay, threatening blocks and saying things such as "if you keep doing this you'll be blocked" isn't needed. But how much of it is already covered by SW:QDV?
  2. Makes sense; should probably direct users to the admin noticeboard as well/instead.
  3. Good idea to tell people to not write that stuff; I'm not sure it should be treated as a "request to be banned". Instead, I would just say that it's considered disruption, which is a bannable offense.

Toomai Glittershine Toomai.png The Stats Guy 15:00, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

As I understand it,
  1. It's actually not. Telling someone they'll be blocked for some general douchebaggery doesn't only apply to vandals. In fact, the principal concern here appears to not be with vandals.
  2. The admin noticeboard is a ghost town, but maybe that would get it some use.
  3. We don't have an operational definition of disruption, and I highly doubt that 'You can ban me for this but...' disrupts anything. Typically it's the thing after 'You can ban me for this but...' that's disruptive, but not always, but if you introduce a comment with such a qualification, it nearly always is something that ought not to be said, for one reason or another, and this policy gives a nice, clean, easy way to get rid of the troll who says it without dealing with the muddled definition of disruption.
Semicolon (talk) 16:17, March 1, 2010 (UTC)


Points one and two: Users threaten other users with/request blocks so very rarely that there's no point having a policy against doing so. Point three: The only people who say things like that in their posts have little to no wiki experience, so they wouldn't read the policy, and they never return to the wiki, so banning them is pointless. PenguinofDeath 17:29, March 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree that this policy is rather limited in scope of application, but I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. I'm not saying that this will solve all (or even most) of the problems on the wiki, but there is not anything wrong with having a policy that is rarely but correctly applied. Also, as for the third point, ignorance of policy is no excuse, and let's make sure that they don't come back in that case. Clarinet Hawk (talk · contributions) 17:32, March 2, 2010 (UTC)