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'''The Five Gods''' is a term referring to the five very best players of ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', who consistently dominated tournaments from 2013 to the present, while rarely losing tournament sets to players that aren't among the gods themselves. The players considered the five gods, in alphabetical order, are:
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[[File:Armada Mango.png|300px|thumb|{{Sm|Armada}} and {{Sm|Mang0}}, two of the Five Gods, and considered two of the greatest Melee players of all time.]]
'''The Five Gods''' is a term referring to the five very best players of ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', who consistently dominated tournaments from around 2008 - 2018, after the "Golden Age of Smash", while rarely losing tournament sets to players that aren't "Gods" themselves.  
 
The players considered the five gods, in alphabetical order, are:


*{{Sm|Armada}}
*{{Sm|Armada}}
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*{{Sm|PPMD}}
*{{Sm|PPMD}}


The first tournament to feature all five gods was [[Pound 4]] in January 2010, although PPMD (or Dr. Peepee as he was then known) was not considered in contention at that event.
==History==
{{incomplete|Document the rise and fall more coherently, clean up the writing, etc.}}
After the release of ''Brawl'', the "Golden Age of Smash", marked by the dominance of players like {{Sm|Ken}}, {{Sm|KoreanDJ}}, and {{Sm|Isai}}, had effectively ended, with ''Brawl'' superceding competitive ''Melee'' for some time. However, this changed with {{Trn|Revival of Melee}}, a tournament that brought about exactly what its name claimed. During this period, {{Sm|Armada}}, {{Sm|Hungrybox}}, {{Sm|Mango}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, and {{Sm|PPMD}} (then known as Dr. PeePee) soon established themselves as the "Five Gods".
 
The Five Gods won nearly every ''Melee'' tournament where at least two of them were in attendance from 2008 to 2014, while rarely losing tournament sets to players not among the gods themselves. The sole exception was {{Trn|Don't Go Down There Jeff}}, where Mango sandbagged for part of the tourney.
 
While The Five Gods had continued to dominate ''Melee'' majors in the new era, notably featuring {{Sm|Mango}}'s two wins at EVO 2013 and 2014, {{Sm|Leffen}} and {{Sm|Plup}} had emerged as true challengers to them, and are the only two players who have defeated all five in a tournament set. Following his rise in 2014, Leffen won [[B.E.A.S.T 5]], marking the first non-God victory at a major with at least two in attendance since 2008; he won his first American major, [[CEO 2015]], that same year, with three of the gods present. He also won [[Get On My Level 2016]], defeating four gods all in a row without dropping a set. Plup became the second player after Leffen to win a major with two or more gods in attendance, taking [[DreamHack Atlanta 2017]] over Hungrybox and Mew2King; he then won [[GENESIS 5]], winning over Mango and Armada, and double eliminating Hungrybox.


{{Sm|Leffen}} is now considered to be on par with the "gods", placing better than a few in recent tournaments. Since the beginning of 2014, Leffen has shown rapid improvement in the game, consistently taking tournament sets off of the other gods and having managed to regularly place in winners' finals, and by 2015, he began making it to grand finals and winning American national tournaments. After beating Mew2King at Apex 2015, he became the first player to take a set off of each of the five gods. During this time, Leffen can possibly have been thought to have "replaced" Mew2King among the gods. However, it has often been argued that the title of "God" cannot truly be revoked, and that it is more or less a reflection of an era where they dominated national tournaments (in a similar vein to "King of Smash" still being associated with {{Sm|Ken}}, despite his lack of high placings at even semi-majors). Groupings that include Leffen may sometimes use the term "The Big Six", "The Sinister Six" or simply "top 6" to reference his inclusion without conflicting with the "Five Gods" title.
Many new players also went on to defeat the remaining gods and win majors, some with unconventional characters. At {{Trn|EVO 2018}}, {{Sm|Swedish Delight}} defeated {{Sm|Armada}} early in winners, and Armada made an impressive losers run only to lose to {{Sm|Leffen}} in Grand Finals, marking Leffen’s first EVO win. {{Sm|Zain}} claimed victory at {{Trn|Shine 2018}} over Mango and Hungrybox and has continued to be a threat to the gods; he later went on to win his first supermajor at {{Trn|GENESIS 7}} as well, once again defeating Mango and Hungrybox. Wizzrobe earned his first supermajor victory at {{Trn|Smash 'N' Splash 5}} by double-eliminating Hungrybox, marking the first ''Melee'' supermajor won by a solo {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} main since {{Sm|Isai}} at {{Trn|MOAST 3}} all the way back in 2005. Similarly, {{Sm|Axe}} took 1st at {{Trn|Smash Summit 8}} while defeating Zain, Mango, Leffen, and Wizzrobe, marking Axe’s first supermajor win and the first ever major win by a solo {{SSBM|Pikachu}}. The rise of unorthodox characters has spurred renewed interest in ''Melee'', and rise of many new challengers to the Gods has signaled the end of their reign.


The gods have won every major tournament with at least two of the players in attendance from 2009 until 2014, when Leffen began to win majors in Europe, as well as [[CEO 2015]], his first North American victory, with three of gods present; consequently, the big six have won every major tournament with at least two of the players in attendance since 2009.
==Demi-gods==
==Demi-gods==
There are several players whose level of skill lies just below the top players; {{Sm|Axe}}, {{Sm|Westballz}}, and {{Sm|Plup}} are currently the players most commonly considered the "demi-gods". These three players are known to frequently earn high placings in large tournaments, as well as for occasionally taking sets off of the gods and Leffen, but have yet to achieve the skill level or consistency of the players above them. In addition, Axe, {{sm|Fly Amanita}}, {{sm|Wobbles}}, and {{sm|Lucky}} have all taken sets off of four of the gods, all except for Armada. {{sm|Jman}}, {{sm|Shroomed}}, and {{sm|KirbyKaze}} have beaten three of the gods.
Some players have achieved notoriety and success comparable to the five gods and whose skill level lies at or around the top players; these players are most commonly considered the "demi-gods". These players are known to frequently earn high placings in large tournaments, and even occasionally take sets off of the gods and other top players, but do not have quite the historical significance or have reached quite the skill level or consistency of the gods. A common barometer for being considered a demigod is to take at least one set off of at least one of the gods. For example, {{Sm|Leffen}} has taken a set off of all five gods, {{Sm|Fly Amanita}} and {{Sm|Wobbles}} have each taken sets off of four of the gods, except for {{Sm|Armada}}. <!--https://twitter.com/TempoAxe/status/556216820450209793 Axe does not consider his Pound 4 win over PPMD to be a "god victory".-->{{Sm|Axe}}<!--Please do not add wins against PPMD that happened prior to Revival of Melee 3 (for example, don't include Lucky's or Axe's wins from Pound 4 against him, as PPMD was not considered in contention for "god status" at the time) or wins where Mango was playing as Scorpion Master.-->, {{Sm|Zain}}, {{Sm|aMSa}}, {{Sm|Westballz}}, {{Sm|Shroomed}}, {{Sm|PewPewU}}, SFAT, {{Sm|ChuDat}}, {{Sm|Lucky}}, and {{Sm|Hax}} have each beaten three of the gods.
 
{{Sm|Wobbles}} finished 2nd at [[EVO 2013]], the largest tournament at the time, and taking down Hungrybox and PPMD in the process. He has also beaten every god except for {{Sm|Armada}}, whose {{SSBM|Peach}} is considered a lopsided match-up for the {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}. Wobbles also took a period of retirement throughout 2013 and 2014, and has since been unable to play at the highest levels.


==Tournaments in which at all five gods attended==
==Tournaments in which all five gods participated==
The first tournament with all Five Gods in attendance was [[Pound 4]] in January 2010, although PPMD was not considered in contention at that event. 
{|class="wikitable sortable"
{|class="wikitable sortable"
! Tournament
! Tournament
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|-
|-
| [[Pound 4]]
| [[Pound 4]]
| Jan 16-18, 2010
| January 16th-18th, 2010
| 4th
| 4th
| 2nd
| 2nd
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| 5th
| 5th
| 9th
| 9th
|-
| [[Apex 2010]]
| August 6th-8th, 2010
| 2nd
| 1st
| 25th**
| 3rd
| 4th
|-
| [[Pound V]]
| February 19th-21st, 2011
| 2nd
| 3rd
| 17th**
| 5th*
| 1st
|-
|-
| [[GENESIS 2]]
| [[GENESIS 2]]
| Jul 15-17, 2011
| July 15th-17th, 2011
| 1st
| 1st
| 4th
| 4th
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|-
|-
| [[Apex 2012]]
| [[Apex 2012]]
| Jan 6-8, 2012
| January 6th-8th, 2012
| 1st
| 1st
| 2nd
| 2nd
| 3rd
| 3rd
| 17th<nowiki>**</nowiki>
| 17th<nowiki>*</nowiki>
| 5th
| 5th
|-
|-
| [[Apex 2013]]
| [[Apex 2013]]
| Jan 11-13, 2013
| January 11th-13th, 2013
| 1st
| 1st
| 5th
| 5th
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|-
|-
| [[EVO 2013]]
| [[EVO 2013]]
| Jul 12-14, 2013
| July 12th-14th, 2013
| 4th
| 4th
| 3rd
| 3rd
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|-
|-
| [[MLG Anaheim 2014]]
| [[MLG Anaheim 2014]]
| Jun 2014
| June 20th-22nd, 2014
| 2nd
| 2nd
| 7th
| 7th
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|-
|-
| [[EVO 2014]]
| [[EVO 2014]]
| Jul 11-13, 2014
| July 11th-13th, 2014
| 3rd
| 3rd
| 2nd
| 2nd
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|-
|-
| [[Apex 2015]]
| [[Apex 2015]]
| Jan 30-Feb 1st, 2015
| January 30th-February 1st, 2015
| 2nd
| 2nd
| 5th
| 5th
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| 9th
| 9th
| 1st
| 1st
|}
==Tournaments in which at least four of the five gods attended==
{{incomplete}}
{|class="wikitable sortable"
! Tournament
! Date
! Armada
! Hungrybox
! Mango
! Mew2King
! PPMD
|-
|-
| [[Apex 2010]]
| [[GENESIS 3]]
| Aug 6-8, 2010
| January 15th-17th, 2016
| 2nd
| 1st
| 1st
| (25th)<nowiki>*</nowiki>
| 3rd
| 3rd
| 4th
|-
| [[Pound V]]
| Feb 19-21, 2011
| 2nd
| 2nd
| 3rd
| 9th
| (17th)<nowiki>*</nowiki>
| 6th
| 5th
| 1st
|-
|-
| [[Apex 2014]]
| [[Battle of the Five Gods]]
| Jan 17-19, 2014
| March 17th-19th, 2016
| &mdash;
| 5th
| 3rd
| 3rd
| 2nd
| 1st
|-
| [[EVO 2015]]
| Jul 17-19, 2015
| 1st
| 1st
| 2nd
| 2nd
| 5th
| 7th
| &mdash;
| 10th
| 3rd
|}
|}


<nowiki>**</nowiki>Mew2King forfeited in losers after losing to PPMD
<small><nowiki/>*Mew2King forfeited in losers after losing to PPMD at [[Pound V]] and Wobbles at [[Apex 2012]].</small>
 
<small><nowiki/>**Mango was sandbagging under his Scorpion Master alias.</small>
 
==Legacy==
{{incomplete|Absolutely inadequate - cover media attention, additional community events, modern activities for each god, and more. Could also add a section for retrospective evaluation of each god's skill.}}
The Five Gods have attained a near-mythical status in the ''Smash'' community, especially ''Melee'', making them a household name among players.


<nowiki>*</nowiki>Mango played secondary characters
Documentaries covering ''Melee'' inevitably discuss the Five Gods. [[The Smash Brothers]] covers the seven greatest players before the era of the gods, affectionately referred to as the [[Golden Age of Smash]], where {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Mango}} are part of both groups. Said documentary revolutionised the ''Melee'' community at the time, prompting an influx of new players, occasionally referred to as "doc kids". [[Metagame (documentary)|Metagame]] employs a similar format to The Smash Brothers and focuses on The Five Gods themselves, as well as {{Sm|Leffen}}, the "Godslayer".


==See also==
In 2016, {{Trn|Battle of the Five Gods}} invited all Five Gods in addition to other famous players, with a payout of $13,000, at the time the highest payout in the game's history. {{Sm|Hungrybox}} won the event.
* [[The Smash Brothers]] - documentary about the seven greatest players before the era of the gods, Mew2King and Mango are part of both groups


==External links==
==External links==

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Armada and Mang0, two of the Five Gods, and considered two of the greatest Melee players of all time.

The Five Gods is a term referring to the five very best players of Super Smash Bros. Melee, who consistently dominated tournaments from around 2008 - 2018, after the "Golden Age of Smash", while rarely losing tournament sets to players that aren't "Gods" themselves.

The players considered the five gods, in alphabetical order, are:

History[edit]

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After the release of Brawl, the "Golden Age of Smash", marked by the dominance of players like Ken, KoreanDJ, and Isai, had effectively ended, with Brawl superceding competitive Melee for some time. However, this changed with Revival of Melee, a tournament that brought about exactly what its name claimed. During this period, Armada, Hungrybox, Mango, Mew2King, and PPMD (then known as Dr. PeePee) soon established themselves as the "Five Gods".

The Five Gods won nearly every Melee tournament where at least two of them were in attendance from 2008 to 2014, while rarely losing tournament sets to players not among the gods themselves. The sole exception was Don't Go Down There Jeff, where Mango sandbagged for part of the tourney.

While The Five Gods had continued to dominate Melee majors in the new era, notably featuring Mango's two wins at EVO 2013 and 2014, Leffen and Plup had emerged as true challengers to them, and are the only two players who have defeated all five in a tournament set. Following his rise in 2014, Leffen won B.E.A.S.T 5, marking the first non-God victory at a major with at least two in attendance since 2008; he won his first American major, CEO 2015, that same year, with three of the gods present. He also won Get On My Level 2016, defeating four gods all in a row without dropping a set. Plup became the second player after Leffen to win a major with two or more gods in attendance, taking DreamHack Atlanta 2017 over Hungrybox and Mew2King; he then won GENESIS 5, winning over Mango and Armada, and double eliminating Hungrybox.

Many new players also went on to defeat the remaining gods and win majors, some with unconventional characters. At EVO 2018, Swedish Delight defeated Armada early in winners, and Armada made an impressive losers run only to lose to Leffen in Grand Finals, marking Leffen’s first EVO win. Zain claimed victory at Shine 2018 over Mango and Hungrybox and has continued to be a threat to the gods; he later went on to win his first supermajor at GENESIS 7 as well, once again defeating Mango and Hungrybox. Wizzrobe earned his first supermajor victory at Smash 'N' Splash 5 by double-eliminating Hungrybox, marking the first Melee supermajor won by a solo Captain Falcon main since Isai at MOAST 3 all the way back in 2005. Similarly, Axe took 1st at Smash Summit 8 while defeating Zain, Mango, Leffen, and Wizzrobe, marking Axe’s first supermajor win and the first ever major win by a solo Pikachu. The rise of unorthodox characters has spurred renewed interest in Melee, and rise of many new challengers to the Gods has signaled the end of their reign.

Demi-gods[edit]

Some players have achieved notoriety and success comparable to the five gods and whose skill level lies at or around the top players; these players are most commonly considered the "demi-gods". These players are known to frequently earn high placings in large tournaments, and even occasionally take sets off of the gods and other top players, but do not have quite the historical significance or have reached quite the skill level or consistency of the gods. A common barometer for being considered a demigod is to take at least one set off of at least one of the gods. For example, Leffen has taken a set off of all five gods, Fly Amanita and Wobbles have each taken sets off of four of the gods, except for Armada. Axe, Zain, aMSa, Westballz, Shroomed, PewPewU, SFAT, ChuDat, Lucky, and Hax have each beaten three of the gods.

Tournaments in which all five gods participated[edit]

The first tournament with all Five Gods in attendance was Pound 4 in January 2010, although PPMD was not considered in contention at that event.

Tournament Date Armada Hungrybox Mango Mew2King PPMD
Pound 4 January 16th-18th, 2010 4th 2nd 1st 5th 9th
Apex 2010 August 6th-8th, 2010 2nd 1st 25th** 3rd 4th
Pound V February 19th-21st, 2011 2nd 3rd 17th** 5th* 1st
GENESIS 2 July 15th-17th, 2011 1st 4th 2nd 5th 7th
Apex 2012 January 6th-8th, 2012 1st 2nd 3rd 17th* 5th
Apex 2013 January 11th-13th, 2013 1st 5th 4th 3rd 2nd
EVO 2013 July 12th-14th, 2013 4th 3rd 1st 5th 5th
MLG Anaheim 2014 June 20th-22nd, 2014 2nd 7th 1st 3rd 4th
EVO 2014 July 11th-13th, 2014 3rd 2nd 1st 5th 4th
Apex 2015 January 30th-February 1st, 2015 2nd 5th 4th 9th 1st
GENESIS 3 January 15th-17th, 2016 1st 3rd 2nd 9th 6th
Battle of the Five Gods March 17th-19th, 2016 3rd 1st 2nd 7th 10th

*Mew2King forfeited in losers after losing to PPMD at Pound V and Wobbles at Apex 2012.

**Mango was sandbagging under his Scorpion Master alias.

Legacy[edit]

An icon for denoting incomplete things.

The Five Gods have attained a near-mythical status in the Smash community, especially Melee, making them a household name among players.

Documentaries covering Melee inevitably discuss the Five Gods. The Smash Brothers covers the seven greatest players before the era of the gods, affectionately referred to as the Golden Age of Smash, where Mew2King and Mango are part of both groups. Said documentary revolutionised the Melee community at the time, prompting an influx of new players, occasionally referred to as "doc kids". Metagame employs a similar format to The Smash Brothers and focuses on The Five Gods themselves, as well as Leffen, the "Godslayer".

In 2016, Battle of the Five Gods invited all Five Gods in addition to other famous players, with a payout of $13,000, at the time the highest payout in the game's history. Hungrybox won the event.

External links[edit]