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There was a community effort in the modern ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' Community, centered in the ''[[Brawl Bois]]'' discord server to create a tier list that was the average of community member's tier lists. It included the lists of multiple of 2022's top level players and other community members, and was organized and compiled by ''[[ninja1167]]''.  
The '''Post-Brawl community tier list''' is a [[tier list]] for ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' from the modern community, centered in the [[Brawl Central]] Discord server, and was organized and compiled by {{sm|ninja1167}}. It was supposed to be a tier list that was more accurate and up to date than the final [[Brawl Back Room]] tier list (released in 2013), and it included the lists of multiple of 2022's top level players and other community members. Despite this, some members of the Brawl Community did not want to replace the final Brawl Back Room tier list with this one, so it currently remains separate.
==Methodology==
This tier list was made from 21 combined tier lists made by Brawl Community members, current top players, and former active players (such as {{sm|Mew2King}} and {{sm|KVLT}}). Each character's placement was averaged, and they were ordered based on their average placement.
 
The method used for separating tiers was generally the same one the last BBR tier list used, but with some differences. For tiers SS through A-, a new tier was started after a difference of 1.000 or more in the average placement (with the exception of Wario, who was more than this from both Pikachu and King Dedede, but closer to Pikachu, and since he was closer to Pikachu, he was placed in A-). From tiers B+ through B-, a new tier was made if there was a difference of 1.250 or more in the average placement. For tiers C through E, a new tier was made if there was a difference of 1.500 or more, and for F tier a new tier would be started after a difference of 2.000 or more.


==Methodology==
Regarding ties, two characters are considered tied when they have are separated by a value of 0.100 or less. This was the case for Zero Suit Samus and Falco, who are tied for 7th/8th, Ness and Ike, who are tied for 24th/25th, and Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff, who are tied for 32nd/33rd.


==Tier list==
==Tier list==
This list was released on September 16th, 2022
This list was released on September 16th, 2022.


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The tiers are further grouped as follows: Top (SS, S, A), High (B, C), Mid (D, E, F), Low (G), Bottom (H).
The tiers are further grouped as follows: Top (SS, S, A+, A), High (A-), Mid (B+, B, B-), Lower Mid (C), Upper Low (D), Low (E), Bottom (F).


==Differences from the [[Brawl Back Room]]'s tier list==
==Differences from the [[Brawl Back Room]]'s tier list==
The European tier list has only slight differences from the BBR's official tier list. Most notably, {{SSBB|Diddy Kong}} is in his own tier below {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}, and above all other characters. {{SSBB|Fox}} and {{SSBB|Peach}} were bumped up to high tier, thus making them ineligible to be used in mid tier tournaments in Europe. The middle tiers are more balanced in the amount of placement in them, Olimar is ranked significantly lower, and {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} is in his own tier below all other characters.
This tier list has multiple difference compared to the BBR tier list. The largest jumps were {{SSBB|Sheik}} moving up four spots, and {{SSBB|Wolf}} moving down four spots. {{SSBB|Meta Knight}} held his #1 position, but lost his unanimous 1.000 value due to two players (including {{Sm|686M}}, the current best ''Brawl'' player) placing him at #2, below the {{SSBB|Ice Climbers}}.


Please note that the names of tiers differ between the NTSC and European tier lists.
Please note that the names of tiers differ between the BBR tier list and this one. Also note that the combined Zelda/Sheik was removed, meaning that every position below 24 would move up one (for example Sheik moved from 24→20 not from 25→20, since 25 becomes 24 after combined Zelda/Sheik is removed).


For specific rank differences from the current BBR tier list:
For specific rank differences from the current BBR tier list:
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!Character!!Rank change!!Tier change
!Character!!Rank change!!Tier change
|-
|-
|Meta Knight || ±0|| N/A
|Meta Knight || ±0 || N/A
|-
|-
|Diddy Kong || +2|| '''A+''' → '''S'''
|Ice Climbers || ±0 || N/A
|-
|-
|Snake || +3 || '''A-''' → '''A'''
|Diddy Kong || +1 || N/A
|-
|-
|Marth || +1 || '''A-''' → '''A'''
|Olimar|| -1 || N/A
|-
|-
|Falco || +2 || '''A-''' → '''A'''
|Marth || ±0 || '''A-''' → '''A'''
|-
|-
|Ice Climbers || -4 || '''S''' → '''A'''
|Snake || ±0 || '''A-''' → '''A'''
|-
|-
|Wario || +3 || '''B''' → '''A'''
|Zero Suit Samus|| +2/+1 || '''B''' → '''A-'''
|-
|-
|Olimar || -5 || '''A+''' → '''A'''
|Falco|| ±0/-1 || N/A
|-
|-
|Pikachu || -1 || N/A
|Pikachu || -1 || '''B''' → '''A-'''
|-
|-
|King Dedede || +2 || '''C+''' → '''B'''
|Wario || ±0 || '''B''' → '''A-'''
|-
|-
|Zero Suit Samus || -1 || N/A
|King Dedede || +1 || '''C+''' → '''B+'''
|-
|-
|Lucario || -1 || '''C+''' → '''B'''
|Lucario || -1 || '''C+''' → '''B+'''
|-
|-
|Mr. Game & Watch || +3 || N/A
|Fox || +2 || '''C''' → '''B'''
|-
|-
|Fox || -1 || N/A
|Pit|| +3 || '''C''' → '''B'''
|-
|-
|Toon Link || -2 || '''C+''' → '''C'''
|Toon Link || -2 || '''C+''' → '''B'''
|-
|-
|Peach || +3 || '''C-''' → '''C'''
|Peach || +3 || '''C-''' → '''B'''
|-
|-
|Wolf || -3 || N/A
|R.O.B. || +1 || '''C-''' → '''B'''
|-
|-
|Pit || -1 || '''C''' → '''D'''
|Wolf|| -4 || '''C''' → '''B'''
|-
|-
|R.O.B. || -1 || '''C-''' → '''D'''
|Mr. Game & Watch || -3 || '''C''' → '''B-'''
|-
|-
|Donkey Kong || +1 || N/A
|Sheik || +4 || '''D''' → '''B-'''
|-
|-
|Kirby || -1 || N/A
|Donkey Kong || ±0 || '''D''' → '''C'''
|-
|-
|Zelda/Sheik || +2 || N/A
|Kirby || -2 || '''D''' → '''C'''
|-
|-
|Ike || ±0 || '''D''' → '''E'''
|Sonic || -1 || '''D''' → '''C'''
|-
|-
|Sheik || +1 || '''D''' → '''E'''
|Ness || +1/±0 || N/A
|-
|-
|Sonic || -3 || '''D''' → '''E'''
|Ike || -1/-2 || N/A
|-
|-
|Luigi || +2 || '''E''' → '''F'''
|Luigi || +1 || '''E''' → '''D'''
|-
|-
|Ness || -1 || '''D''' → '''F'''
|Yoshi || -1 || N/A
|-
|-
|Yoshi || -1 || '''D''' → '''F'''
|Lucas|| +1 || '''E''' → '''D'''
|-
|-
|Pokémon Trainer || ±0 || '''E''' → '''F'''
|Pokémon Trainer || -1 || '''E''' → '''D'''
|-
|-
|Lucas || ±0 || '''E''' → '''G'''
|Mario|| ±0 || '''F''' → '''E'''
|-
|-
|Mario || ±0 || '''F''' → '''G'''
|Samus|| ±0 || '''F''' → '''E'''
|-
|-
|Bowser || +1 || '''F''' → '''G'''
|Captain Falcon|| +1/±0 || N/A
|-
|-
|Samus || -1 || '''F''' → '''G'''
|Jigglypuff|| +3/+2 || N/A
|-
|-
|Captain Falcon || ±0 || '''F''' → '''G'''
|Zelda|| +2 || N/A
|-
|-
|Zelda || +2 || '''F''' → '''G'''
|Bowser|| -3 || N/A
|-
|-
|Link || ±0 || '''F''' → '''G'''
|Link || -2 || N/A
|-
|-
|Jigglypuff || -1 || '''F''' → '''G'''
|Ganondorf|| ±0 || N/A
|-
|-
|Ganondorf || ±0 || '''F''' → '''H'''
|}
|}


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*[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)]]
*[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)]]
*[[Japanese tier list]]
*[[Japanese tier list]]
*[[European tier list]]


==External links==
==External links==
*[http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=314603 SmashBoards thread for the European tier list]
*[https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/xkhob3/2022_brawl_community_tier_list/ Reddit post for the tier list]
 
*[https://discordapp.com/invite/3DmJN2m Brawl Central Discord server]
[[Category:Tier lists]]
[[Category:Tier lists]]

Latest revision as of 20:37, September 1, 2024

The Post-Brawl community tier list is a tier list for Super Smash Bros. Brawl from the modern community, centered in the Brawl Central Discord server, and was organized and compiled by ninja1167. It was supposed to be a tier list that was more accurate and up to date than the final Brawl Back Room tier list (released in 2013), and it included the lists of multiple of 2022's top level players and other community members. Despite this, some members of the Brawl Community did not want to replace the final Brawl Back Room tier list with this one, so it currently remains separate.

Methodology[edit]

This tier list was made from 21 combined tier lists made by Brawl Community members, current top players, and former active players (such as Mew2King and KVLT). Each character's placement was averaged, and they were ordered based on their average placement.

The method used for separating tiers was generally the same one the last BBR tier list used, but with some differences. For tiers SS through A-, a new tier was started after a difference of 1.000 or more in the average placement (with the exception of Wario, who was more than this from both Pikachu and King Dedede, but closer to Pikachu, and since he was closer to Pikachu, he was placed in A-). From tiers B+ through B-, a new tier was made if there was a difference of 1.250 or more in the average placement. For tiers C through E, a new tier was made if there was a difference of 1.500 or more, and for F tier a new tier would be started after a difference of 2.000 or more.

Regarding ties, two characters are considered tied when they have are separated by a value of 0.100 or less. This was the case for Zero Suit Samus and Falco, who are tied for 7th/8th, Ness and Ike, who are tied for 24th/25th, and Captain Falcon and Jigglypuff, who are tied for 32nd/33rd.

Tier list[edit]

This list was released on September 16th, 2022.

Modern Super Smash Bros. Brawl Tier List
SS S A+ A A-
1 2 3 4 5 6 7-8 9 10
Meta Knight (SSBB) Ice Climbers (SSBB) Diddy Kong (SSBB) Olimar (SSBB) Marth (SSBB) Snake (SSBB) Zero Suit Samus (SSBB) Falco (SSBB) Pikachu (SSBB) Wario (SSBB)
1.087 2.130 3.174 4.087 5.739 5.870 7.348 7.391 8.435 10.000
B+ B B-
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
King Dedede (SSBB) Lucario (SSBB) Fox (SSBB) Pit (SSBB) Toon Link (SSBB) Peach (SSBB) R.O.B. (SSBB) Wolf (SSBB) Mr. Game & Watch (SSBB) Sheik (SSBB)
12.739 13.087 14.783 15.217 15.609 15.773 16.043 16.870 18.217 19.273
C D
21 22 23 24-25 26 27 28 29
Donkey Kong (SSBB) Kirby (SSBB) Sonic (SSBB) Ness (SSBB) Ike (SSBB) Luigi (SSBB) Yoshi (SSBB) Lucas (SSBB) Pokemon Trainer (SSBB)
22.091 22.217 22.565 25.273 25.364 26.000 26.182 26.636 27.682
E F
30 31 32-33 34 35 36 37
Mario (SSBB) Samus (SSBB) Captain Falcon (SSBB) Jigglypuff (SSBB) Zelda (SSBB) Bowser (SSBB) Link (SSBB) Ganondorf (SSBB)
30.227 30.636 33.364 33.364 33.591 33.818 34.182 36.136

The tiers are further grouped as follows: Top (SS, S, A+, A), High (A-), Mid (B+, B, B-), Lower Mid (C), Upper Low (D), Low (E), Bottom (F).

Differences from the Brawl Back Room's tier list[edit]

This tier list has multiple difference compared to the BBR tier list. The largest jumps were Sheik moving up four spots, and Wolf moving down four spots. Meta Knight held his #1 position, but lost his unanimous 1.000 value due to two players (including 686M, the current best Brawl player) placing him at #2, below the Ice Climbers.

Please note that the names of tiers differ between the BBR tier list and this one. Also note that the combined Zelda/Sheik was removed, meaning that every position below 24 would move up one (for example Sheik moved from 24→20 not from 25→20, since 25 becomes 24 after combined Zelda/Sheik is removed).

For specific rank differences from the current BBR tier list:

Character Rank change Tier change
Meta Knight ±0 N/A
Ice Climbers ±0 N/A
Diddy Kong +1 N/A
Olimar -1 N/A
Marth ±0 A-A
Snake ±0 A-A
Zero Suit Samus +2/+1 BA-
Falco ±0/-1 N/A
Pikachu -1 BA-
Wario ±0 BA-
King Dedede +1 C+B+
Lucario -1 C+B+
Fox +2 CB
Pit +3 CB
Toon Link -2 C+B
Peach +3 C-B
R.O.B. +1 C-B
Wolf -4 CB
Mr. Game & Watch -3 CB-
Sheik +4 DB-
Donkey Kong ±0 DC
Kirby -2 DC
Sonic -1 DC
Ness +1/±0 N/A
Ike -1/-2 N/A
Luigi +1 ED
Yoshi -1 N/A
Lucas +1 ED
Pokémon Trainer -1 ED
Mario ±0 FE
Samus ±0 FE
Captain Falcon +1/±0 N/A
Jigglypuff +3/+2 N/A
Zelda +2 N/A
Bowser -3 N/A
Link -2 N/A
Ganondorf ±0 N/A

See also[edit]

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