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*In all games except ''Melee'', some characters are unable to become helpless through their own moveset. | *In all games except ''Melee'', some characters are unable to become helpless through their own moveset. | ||
**{{SSB|Yoshi}}, {{SSB|Kirby}} and {{SSB|Jigglypuff}} are the only characters that cannot become helpless in ''Smash 64''. | **{{SSB|Yoshi}}, {{SSB|Kirby}} and {{SSB|Jigglypuff}} are the only characters that cannot become helpless in ''Smash 64''. | ||
**In ''Brawl'', these characters are {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSBB|Sonic}}, {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, {{SSBB|R.O.B.}}, and {{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}}. In fact, R.O.B. is not programmed to have a helpless state in ''Brawl'', and attempting to see it via hacking causes the game to crash. All other characters have a helpless state, even if they cannot enter it without hacking. | **In ''Brawl'', these characters are {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSBB|Sonic}}, {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, {{SSBB|R.O.B.}}, and {{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}}. In fact, R.O.B. is not programmed to have a helpless state in ''Brawl'', and attempting to see it via hacking causes the game to crash. All other characters have a helpless state, even if they cannot enter it without hacking. | ||
**In ''Smash 4'', a number of helpless animations cannot be seen without Pac-Man's red trampoline, which forces every character in an helpless state, namely those of {{SSB4|Yoshi}}, {{SSB4|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSB4|Mr. Game & Watch}}, {{SSB4|Sonic}}, {{SSB4|R.O.B}}, {{SSB4|Mega Man}}, {{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}}, and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}. | **In ''Smash 4'', a number of helpless animations cannot be seen without Pac-Man's red trampoline, which forces every character in an helpless state, namely those of {{SSB4|Yoshi}}, {{SSB4|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSB4|Mr. Game & Watch}}, {{SSB4|Sonic}}, {{SSB4|R.O.B}}, {{SSB4|Mega Man}}, {{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}}, and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}. | ||
**In ''Ultimate'', this extends to, in addition to the aforementioned characters, {{SSBU|Snake}}, {{SSBU|Ivysaur}}, {{SSBU|Banjo & Kazooie}}, {{SSBU|Byleth}}, {{SSBU|Min Min}}, and {{SSBU|Kazuya}}. | **In ''Ultimate'', this extends to, in addition to the aforementioned characters, {{SSBU|Snake}}, {{SSBU|Ivysaur}}, {{SSBU|Banjo & Kazooie}}, {{SSBU|Byleth}}, {{SSBU|Min Min}}, and {{SSBU|Kazuya}}. |