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== Perfect Character ==
==link from old wiki==
Should we have a link to here from the old wiki? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] 00:10, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
:We aren't dicthing the old wiki. This shouldn't replace Wikia's version.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 00:11, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
::Actually, we are pretty much ditching the old wiki; the entire active administration has made the switch. I was planning to put a big "SmashWiki has relocated" notice up saying that while SmashWikia will continue to exist, SmashWiki will be the primary Smash Bros. wiki from now on. Besides, how else are we going to get any traffic at first? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 10:58, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Let's get the bulk of the content over before we invite the masses to join us. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:36, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
::::What I was asking is a shortcut from Smashwiki to here. Whenever I google "Smashwiki" I end up in the wikia one. I think we should have a link from there to here and vice versa. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] 22:39, 1 October 2010 (EDT)


[[Forum:The perfect character|This]] is something I've been pushing for as main page material.  Any support or criticism would be accepted.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Hey, I've contributed to the original SmashWiki in the past, and have been with NIWA lately, and want to help move stuff. So, if you just tell me to do something, I'll happily help. :D [[User:Supernicknobros|Supernicknobros]] ([[User talk:Supernicknobros|talk]]) 15:45, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
:Let's not go there.  I think we've already established that poll and/or fanon changes to the main page are a bad idea.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 03:29, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::But this has more value than a regular poll, or that Smash Arena thing.  The polls were a good addition, but they generally did little to contribute to community. This could be important, it's good information.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Whats goin on? Hey I noticed that the polls are gone. Why? You guys decided not to do um? [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 03:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Mainly because Cafinator, the guy who ran them, got blocked.  I'm offering a replacement, more or less.  This would be more valuable to the community.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
Not to be an ass here, but what would really contribute to the community is fixing up all the fighter pages to the new and better format, finding all of the disbanded crews and marking them, cleaning up the Smasher namespace, etc.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 03:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:I was talking about the smash community.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 03:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::So was I.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 03:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, well, how would this not help both this wiki community and the smash community as a whole?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 04:12, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Mostly because it wouldn't have any actual impact on gameplay.  Wishing that there was some character that could do something is not helpful to people.  Seeing well documented writing on which characters can do what and how to do it is quite helpful. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 05:11, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::Did you read the entire forum thread?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Yeah.  And I just read it again, and it made me even less supportive of this.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 05:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Oh, you're just saying that.  The polls were on here for a while, and they worked just fine.  In fact, this community (in general) liked them a lot.  This would be like them, but more useful.  If the polls were OK, then how come this isn't?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:18, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::: SmashWiki is really useless to the Smash community (I could stop there, but I won't) if it focuses on things like polls rather than on building an encyclopedia. The Smash community already has multiple sites where people can do stuff like that, and it serves no purpose if this becomes another one of them. The Smash community does not, however, have an encyclopedia, which is why this thing was started in the first place. In so far as the SmashWiki community is concerned, I guess it doesn't matter if we're useful to the greater Smash community or not, but what the hell's the point of having SmashWiki only be of use to SmashWiki members? --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 20:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


I'd like to see the Smash Arena on the main page, it looks neat. - [[User:BattleFranky202|BattleFranky202]] ([[User talk:BattleFranky202|talk]]) 12:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::[[SmashWiki:Community portal|List of stuff to do]]. Glad to have you around to help. ^_^ <font face="Helvetica" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#008080">Doctor Pain 99</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> 16:15, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
:Doesn't the fact that the polls were removed obviously mean that they were not ok? --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">[[User:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">Shadow</font>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">crest</font>]]</font> 19:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
::The only reason they're gone is that Cafinator was banned.  I believe his ban ends today.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 23:38, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
:::That is not the only reason they were removed.  They were usually irrelevant, possibly trollish, and generated limited response.  In all, the cons far outweighed the pros for this one.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 16:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


Does that mean there will be more polls? '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">TALK</span></sup></small>]]''' 05:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Wikia will probably not allow you to have a link redirecting users to other wikis. They will probably block anyone who tries to add one. [[User:Solar Dragon|Solar Dragon]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|talk]]) 17:16, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
:Sort of. They'll be more meaningful polls with more useful data. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:35, 22 October 2008 (UTC)


::::::::[http://pikmin.wikia.com/ Pikipedia does]. <font face="Helvetica" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#008080">Doctor Pain 99</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> 17:35, 2 October 2010 (EDT)


Cool. and by the way. I'll support anything that I can look forward to reading... '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">TALK</span></sup></small>]]''' 05:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Ok, so I want to move images. The names stay the same when i re-upload it right? just making sure. :) [[User:Supernicknobros|Supernicknobros]] ([[User talk:Supernicknobros|talk]]) 17:49, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
:I hope you skeptics know that that's '''support'''. The people want this.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::If you're uploading images from the Smash Wikia, it would be preferable to upload them under the same name, as that way, we won't have to edit whatever page they're on to get them to appear properly. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span  
style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 17:54, 2 October 2010 (EDT)


:: I hope you know that by "the people" you can only be referring to the four people who have expressed support on this page, and not any of the several people who have previously expressed (or presently express) opposition. (And bear in mind, this is ''after'' however many people were solicited on their talk pages to come here and support it. Also, in so far as you're prone to turn this into a "sysops vs. users" thing, we're people too. We never said you can't put that on the Main Page because the admins don't like it, we said you can't put it on the Main Page because you've never managed to get consensus to do it. As I've pointed out, you still haven't.) --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 20:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)  
::::::::::: If you want a link to the old smashwiki, here it is. http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page hoped that helps! [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesuxelf]] [[Image:blazeicon.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Mesuxelf#top|talk]]) 15:38, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::No, we want a link ''from'' smashwikia, since googling "smashwiki" leads you there. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 16:13, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::::::::::Can I help upload Controler images?--[[User:Tabuu123|Tabuu123]] ([[User talk:Tabuu123|talk]]) 17:49, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::::::::::I think the Wikia SmashWiki needs a rename if it is possible to help search engines direct users here instead of the old SmashWiki. I don't know if that will work but if it wouldn't or doesn't, contact search engines to make the change. --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 01:13, 5 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::Would have been better if you started a new section for something like that. Besides, most people who go to the old one see the sitenotice and if they read it, they'd go here instead and be a loyal follower.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 01:14, 5 December 2010 (EST)
::::::::::::::::Shouldn't we just archive the old site or something so that way people will come here? --[[User:Wildgoosespeeder|Wildgoosespeeder]] ([[User talk:Wildgoosespeeder|talk]]) 21:09, 5 December 2010 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::Wikia's a bitch. They won't let us. They barely let Havoc advertise NIWA on there.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 21:15, 5 December 2010 (EST)


I still have yet to see what this "meaningful information" that the "Perfect Character" or the "Smash Arena" things are supposed to provide is. Read my previous comments about the Perfect character thing. If you want a more detailed opposition, I'll write one this weekend.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 16:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
I just realized a way to stop smashwikia from being overrun by vandals: use that Protectsite tool that wikia gave us in the first place. Anyone think we should do this? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 19:18, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
:You realize that all of us will check in every now and then. We didn't recieve that many vandilism to start with.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 21:29, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
:: What do you mean a link FROM smashwiki? [[User:Mesuxelf|Mesuxelf]] [[Image:blazeicon.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Mesuxelf#top|talk]]) 09:49, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Mesuxelf, sit back and learn, as you aren't helping. We already have a link Anon. It's in the site notice, something everyone sees. Wikia allows that, but I'm unsure if they'll let us put up a link on the main page :/ --<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 10:07, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
::::We have a link on the main page as well. <font face="Helvetica" color="silver">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#008080">Doctor Pain 99</font>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">C</font>]][[User Talk:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">T</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Dr. Pain 99|<font color="silver">E</font>]])</font> 10:47, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::I mean a direct link, not a link to a page about it.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 10:52, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
== Is this us? ==


I've told him to stop advertising (even I've got to admit, the degree of it was a bit uncalled for)I'm just saying that stuff like this needs advertising, and that's why we wanted something on the main page, they wouldn't work if only a few people knew about it. I realized yesterday that Smash Arena does, in fact, have a link to it on the main page, which is good enough for me.  I apologize to Kirby King, and to anyone else who was offended when I implied that opposers (Bushism) weren't people.  The only other thing I can say to that (and I know you've heard it a billion times before) is that, as subtle as it may be, the administration here is slightly elitist, and sometimes overbearing.  Back to the main subject, the Smash Arena is now self-sustaining, so there should be no more advertisements.  Perfect Character will start next week, hopefully under the same forum thread as Smash Arena (they don't deserve separate topics, in my opinion).  Finally, on a more personal note, I feel that I am an excellent contributor to this already great wiki, and I will never do anything that will hurt the value of the website in any way, Scout's honor. If anyone has any comments, please don't say it here, say it on my page. That is all. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 22:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
[http://www.niwanetwork.org Are we the middle one here?] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:13, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
::::I too enjoyed the polls, but I would have to agree that they have little encyclopedic prowess. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 19:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:As far as I'm aware that was put up before this wiki was, so unlikely. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 19:15, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
::mmkay [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:19, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
:Just out of interest, does anyone know the current situation between ''this'' wiki and N.I.W.A. (why is it not mentioned on the N.I.W.A. site)?
::We know. NIWA will include us on a Friday when we say we're ready.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 18:59, 16 October 2010 (EDT)


== Editing articles to match modern information ==
== Evening out the columns ==


I'm new, so don't pay this much heed if you want. However, I'd like to propose a simple project to go about and edit all pages with information pertaining to SSBB to eliminate some parts of the pages that still refer to information as speculation, now that the game is out and much of these statements could be either confirmed or removed. Just a thought on how to improve stuff. [[User:Zeruel21|Zeruel21]] ([[User talk:Zeruel21|talk]]) 15:14, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
I've figured out how to adjust the widths of the two columns, but not move the right one to the left after I shorten the left one and widen the right.  Help? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:16, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
:Ba-dump. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:30, 16 October 2010 (EDT)


: Hello, and welcome to SmashWiki! You should head over to the [http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Watercooler Watercooler], where we discuss SmashWiki as a whole and where we can discuss your point (which is very good). The Main Page talk is about edits specifically to the Main Page. Thanks for your help and I hope you enjoy contributing to SmashWiki! [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] ([[User talk:MaskedMarth|talk]]) 23:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
== SmashWikia ==


== Featured media ==
Egad! What has happened there? Is this Wikia's new skin? I was going there to find an image that needed to be uploaded here, and it took me forever just to find recent changes! [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 22:58, 20 October 2010 (EDT)
:So useless a post. Of course its Wikia's new skin. Go to preferences and change it. Do not say that since we can do that, we should move back. I belive you have seen the benefits.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 10:32, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
:: *Believe [[Special:Contributions/67.140.242.245|67.140.242.245]] 03:25, 31 December 2010 (EST)


Kperfekt had the rite idea for putting the video up on the main page, but it came out sloppy, which is prolly why it was reverted. There are two reasons that this media should be put up:
== NIWA ==
*The Main page's left side is almost half the size of the right, making it look weird. :P
*The media section can be used to show intros of the SSB games as well as gameplay of professional smashers.


I know how to edit main pages a little, so if I can put it up correctly, will it be allowed? Wikia does have the distinct connection with YouTube videos whereas one can alter it's size and position. This will benefit the wiki, IMO. Just give it some thought. <font face="forte">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:orange">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><font face="forte"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Talk to me</span>]]</sup></small></font> 21:22, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Now that you guys are independent and since the Super Smash Bros. series is part of Nintendo. I think it'd be great for you guys to join NIWA!! I'm not sure how it works, but the website is right here -->[http://www.niwanetwork.org/] --[[Special:Contributions/99.163.246.132|99.163.246.132]] 16:47, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
:Uh... they're hosting this domain. We're just not officially listed yet because we're still finishing technical stuff from the move. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:00, 21 October 2010 (EDT)


:I know you mean well, so understand this isn't a flame.  I think, however, that featuring videos and the like is not necessary, distracting and controversial.  Kperfekt got rebanned partially because he was constantly readding it and getting under the admins' skin.  I think it's unlikely to happen, but it's probably for the best. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|contribs]])</span> 21:27, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
== NIWA Info ==
::I see. But what about the symmetry? Can someone move some of the stuff from one side to the other to make it even? <font face="forte">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:orange">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><font face="forte"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Talk to me</span>]]</sup></small></font> 21:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:::Your monitor must be wider than mine; on my screen they're just about even.  Some problems like this are inevitable. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|contribs]])</span> 21:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::::Do you have the advetisements turned on in your preferences? 'Cuz I just looked and saw that the main page would be moar even if the ad was removed. <font face="forte">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:orange">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><font face="forte"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Talk to me</span>]]</sup></small></font> 21:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
:::::No, they're off.  You might want to try yours that way too... [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|contribs]])</span> 21:42, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
::::::Done and done. :) <font face="forte">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:orange">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><font face="forte"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Talk to me</span>]]</sup></small></font> 21:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
The main page isn't supposed to be perfectly symmetrical.  Considering the left side contains prose writing while the right side contains bulleted lists, it actually makes sense for it ''not'' to be symmetrical.  As for the media, it would serve no purpose whatsoever.  All it would do is slow load times and take up space.  I like the fact that all the content on the main page can be seen without scrolling down.  This is something that all good wiki mainpages do.  When we start adding random content to the main page, the whole thing gets messy and turns people off to our content.  Also, there are some internet connections (even some high-speed ones) that periodically have trouble with videos.  I've seen cases of videos from youtube causing the internet connection to go down and have to be reset.  The risk and detriments to doing this far outweighs the reward here.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 18:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
:wasn't there a forum page that proved that different internet browsers view this page differently?  Mine seems OK, but I can't speak for everyone else.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 23:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)


== Geez. ==
NIWA is requesting a site blurb for [http://niwanetwork.org/wikis.html here] and a contact email for [http://niwanetwork.org/contact.html here]. So let me know what you want these things to be or I'll just make something up! --[[User:Porplemontage|Porplemontage]] ([[User talk:Porplemontage|talk]]) 16:31, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
:Have this for a blurb:
<blockquote>Originally two seperate wikis (one on SmashBoards, the other on Wikia), SmashWiki as we know it was formed out of a merge on February 29th, 2008, becoming independent on September 28, 2010. SmashWiki is the premier source of Smash Bros. information, from simple tidbits to detailed mechanics, and also touches on the origins of its wealth of content from its sibling franchises.</blockquote>
:Users who disagree with this blurb, say so before it's too late.
:As for a contact e-mail, I guess you can use mine, since I'm the most active bureaucrat: toomai{underscore}glittershine[at]yahoo<dot>ca. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 17:11, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
::<small>editconflict</small>
::"SmashWiki was originally a merger between SmashWiki hosted by SmashBoards and Super Smash Bros. Wiki at Wikia.  SmashWiki is dedicated to being the most complete, thorough, and dynamic repository of information relating to the Super Smash Bros. series.  SmashWiki's editors are excited to join the NIWA community and are always looking for help.  If you're interested in Smash, SmashWiki is the place to be!"
::How's that for a blurb (written in like 45 seconds + copypasta from SmashWiki:About, but I think it works okay)?
::As for an email, I have just registered smashwikidian@gmail.com.  It will be available to all the site's admins. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:17, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
:::Personally, I can't stand things with this kind of overeager-to-please tone. :/ [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 17:25, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
::::Whatever.  At least use that email.  It's site-generic. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:26, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
:::::Agree with e-mail. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 17:31, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
::::::Personally, I prefer the "blurb" that Toomai wrote. Also, I agree with the e-mail. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 19:37, 28 October 2010 (EDT)


Theres a reason this site is so slwo on loadnig. Although you guys are great with the information, you edit the User talk and User talk too much. Seriouslym the pages I saw were HUGE!Get bakc to editing the mainspace and less in User[[Special:Contributions/98.217.172.115|98.217.172.115]]
I think the blurb Toomai wrote is better, and I see nothing wrong with the email. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 19:53, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
:My blurb is terrible, use Toomai's.  And yes the email's good.  (Mods beyond myself and Toomai: if you want this email's login info, ask me.)  [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:57, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
You guys gunna add that little box all the other NIWA wikis have at the bottom? All the other niwa wikis have them, they're very useful for quick back-and-forth mainpage linking, and interwiki stuff. [http://wikirby.info/wiki/Template:NIWA There's Wikirby's], [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:Main_Page/Default bottom of that page], [http://zeldawiki.org/Main_Page bottom of that page] so on and so forth. Also you guys should be on the hub tomorrow (:. Then you'll ''finally'' be niwa members. Any of your staff I suggest creating an account on [http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/ the forums]. They'd have access to the Staff Boards where you can actually voice things out and have a better say on niwa happenings [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] ([[User talk:Malake256|talk]]) 23:50, 28 October 2010 (EDT)


And who are you to tell us anything IP? You don't even have an account here! [[User:Masterman|<font color="red">Mas</font><font color="Black">ter</font><font color="Blue">man</font>]] [[User talk: Masterman|<font color="Green">What's the matter?</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Brown">Scared?</font>]] 01:56, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
== Add Smash Arena/IRC links? ==
:Im a contributor on various major wiki's and the reason the pages take a while to load is that you guys edit User:space WAYYYYYYYYY to much. I was planning on making an account, due to the massive cleanup i see. {{tt|Im sorry, but its true.|of course coming from a IP user this means nothing to you}}[[Special:Contributions/98.217.172.115|98.217.172.115]]
::First of all, [[User:Shadowcrest/policy/YAV|Sr. IP is valuable too]]. Don't disqualify his opinion because he's not registered.
::Secondly, he's accurate. BNK's talk page (for example, there are many pages like this) has accumlated ~72kb in 6 days. That's freaking ridiculous. Something needs to be done to curb the extremely excessive talk pages here.  --<font face="vivaldi" size="3">[[User:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">Shadow</font>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<font color="Steelblue">crest</font>]]</font> 02:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Hmm, I s'pose you're right...'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Red">Smore</span><span style="color: Green">King</span>]] [[User Talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:blue">Hap</span><span style="color:silver">py</span> <span style="color:black">Holidays!</span>]]''' 02:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
::::Thats six days worth? Thats ridiculous![[Special:Contributions/98.217.172.115|98.217.172.115]]
:::::I think a lot of it has to do with the PicQuote thingies. People are changing them every 5-10 minutes.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:Red">Smore</span><span style="color: Green">King</span>]] [[User Talk:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:blue">Hap</span><span style="color:silver">py</span> <span style="color:black">Holidays!</span>]]''' 02:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::True ShadowCrest. '''BUT!''' It's like the IP is commanding us to stop talking on talk pages. [[User:Masterman|<font color="red">Mas</font><font color="Black">ter</font><font color="Blue">man</font>]] [[User talk: Masterman|<font color="Green">What's the matter?</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Brown">Scared?</font>]] 02:13, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::No, i was asking you to curb your edits. there are forums, chat rooms, and AIM for a reason. If your going to have a useless talk, do it their[[User:DCP|DCP]] ([[User talk:DCP|talk]])


I see you created an account. :) anyways.
Considering how there is/will be a new user influx, how about putting [[Template:SA Box]] and/or something about [[SW:IRC]] on the main page somewhere? Since we're probably one of the stiffer wikis in terms of talk page and forum rules, it'll lift most opinions of us being 100% srs bsns. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 11:39, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
*Forums:There's only one topic per forum.
:'''Support''' I get rather bored later on when everyone's off. I'm not sure if this is the opinion you want though.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 11:41, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
*chat rooms:??????????? We don't have chat rooms.
*AIP:Some people don't have AIP. (like me)
[[User:Masterman|<font color="red">Mas</font><font color="Black">ter</font><font color="Blue">man</font>]] [[User talk: Masterman|<font color="Green">What's the matter?</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Brown">Scared?</font>]] 02:17, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
#Then make a better set of forums, or find someone to set one up. Bulbagarden has a great forums section. Ask what they ue
#True, true, but outside chat roooms work
#Sorry, i meant AIM. and if you dont have that, theres email, msn. meebo, all sorts of things[[User:DCP|DCP]] ([[User talk:DCP|talk]])


'''Support''' I support as the IRC should have a link somewhere were new users are likely to see it, and the Smash Arena box would be appealing to new users, without detracting from the main page. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 11:54, 30 October 2010 (EDT)


Hmmm.... I'm stuck! Wow. [[User:Masterman|<font color=red>M</font><font color=green>a</font><font color=red>s</font><font color=green>t</font><font color=red>e</font><font color=green>r</font><font color=red>m</font><font color=green>a</font><font color=red>n</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color=silver>Hap</font><font color=gold>py H</font><font color=silver>oli</font><font color=gold>day</font><font color=silver>s!!</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color=lightblue>Presents!</font>]] 02:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
'''Support'''
As above. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:44, 30 October 2010 (EDT)


Somebody here (DefiantElements, if I recall correctly) mentioned we can't ''force'' users to edit in the main namespace; it's just as much the user's right to not edit as to edit. I do make it a matter of taste to avoid excessive user talk edits, and I'd encourage other users to keep their fingers in the main and project namespaces (we have a peculiar lack of back-end helpers; stuff like the [[SmashWiki:Character Project]] need work). <font face="centaur">&ndash; [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] <sup>([[User talk:MaskedMarth|t]] [[Special:Contributions/MaskedMarth|c]])</sup></font> 03:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
'''Partial Support''': pro-IRC (linking to [[SW:IRC]], that is), neutral-leaning against SA. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:04, 30 October 2010 (EDT)
:Well techinically you can, under threat of ban or (i dont know if you guys know how to do this yet) taqking away ability to edit the talkspace. There are a lot of pages on smashers though....[[User:DCP]] [[User talk:DCP]]
::I technically could, but that wouldn't be nice :) <font face="centaur">&ndash; [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] <sup>([[User talk:MaskedMarth|t]] [[Special:Contributions/MaskedMarth|c]])</sup></font> 04:15, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Wait, so you can take away a user's privilege to talk on a talk page without blocking them?  I didn't know that! '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 04:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
::::I can't do that, but I could threaten them with a block or inscribe it into policy. But that would be an abuse of power, and I'm not at all interested in doing so, anyways. <font face="centaur">&ndash; [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] <sup>([[User talk:MaskedMarth|t]] [[Special:Contributions/MaskedMarth|c]])</sup></font> 04:52, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Oh, I get it.  Back to the issue, my opinion on talk page conversations is that they're a lost cause.  Like you said, unless the administration gets especially bold and changes policy (in a move that I guarantee will enrage the majority of users here), talk page convos are sure to continue.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 04:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::There's IRC, but I'm not sure if that's allowed. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Mario</span><span style="color:#000033">Galaxy</span>]]''' <sup>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:lightslategray">A Galaxy begins anew...</span>]]'''</sup> 04:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::::You actually can take away editing from individual sections. Ill borrow the coding if I can.[[User:DCP]] [[User talk:DCP]] 05:02, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Yeah, that's protection.  We already have that, and we use it.  If a page is getting too out of hand, protection should be used.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)


== Problem ==
== Hey, it's SmashWiki! ==


Is there a way anyone could separate the Smasher articles from the regular ones? There's usually a 75% chance of me being directed to a smasher page whenever I click the "Random article" button. <span style="border:2px outset #33cc00;background-color:#ff0000;-moz-border-radius:7px"> [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<font style="font-family:arial black;"><span style="color:#ffffff">Koopa</span>]] [[Image:Koopersshell.gif|19px]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ffffff">Klaus</span></font>]]</span> 03:09, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
A lot changes in two years. Is there any moving-truck stuff that still needs to be done? I'm happy to help. Not sure I'm motivated enough for much mainspace editing but I'll lend a hand in back-end as long as I'm interested. <font face="centaur">&ndash; [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] <sup>([[User talk:MaskedMarth|t]] [[Special:Contributions/MaskedMarth|c]])</sup></font> 11:43, 7 November 2010 (EST)
:I'm pretty sure most of the moving stuff has been done by this point, but help (especially from someone with such experience!) is greatly appreciated.  Good to see you back! [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:45, 7 November 2010 (EST)
:: Cool. This place looks much cleaner than Wikia, I've noticed. Good move. I can get working on the things mentioned in the community portal and the projects; is there anything else that needs particular attention? <font face="centaur">&ndash; [[User:MaskedMarth|MaskedMarth]] <sup>([[User talk:MaskedMarth|t]] [[Special:Contributions/MaskedMarth|c]])</sup></font> 12:11, 7 November 2010 (EST)
:::How about trying to combine [[SmashWiki:Community portal|this]] with [[SmashWiki:Community Portal|this]]? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:14, 7 November 2010 (EST)


:I think the issue here is that at some point in the near past that they somehow became normal article when they shouldn't be considered to be so. Let me check. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 03:13, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
:There's a load of good-quality ''Brawl'' trophy images to be cropped, saved as PNG with better names and uploaded that are linked here: [[Talk:List_of_SSBB_trophies#Which_background.3F]]
:[All the ''Melee'' trophies, and the Zelda ''Brawl'' ones, have been uploaded already - although some of the ''Melee'' ones could do with being recropped - but the rest of the ''Brawl'' ones need done] - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 02:37, 5 December 2010 (EST)
==  Anti-Wikia Skin Alliance newsletter ==
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::Yes. That was the case. At Sky's request I've removed the smasher namespace from the list of content namespaces. -- [[w:User:JSharp|JSharp]] ([[w:User_talk:JSharp|talk]]) <staff /> 05:50, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello former wikia members. Editors at the Anti-wikia skin alliance wanted to begin a newsletter to help build a bridge to the former wikias about what is currently happening on Wikia and what is going on at the Anti-wikia skin alliance.
:::Thank you all for helping. Now! Let the random editing begin! <span style="border:2px outset #33cc00;background-color:#ff0000;-moz-border-radius:7px"> [[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<font style="font-family:arial black;"><span style="color:#ffffff">Koopa</span>]] [[Image:Koopersshell.gif|19px]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ffffff">Klaus</span></font>]]</span> 05:52, 8 December 2008 (UTC)


== Crew Namespace ==
;45 wikias have left wikia


This problem is similar to the Smasher one previously encountered. Can some make a name space for crews, i.e. "Crew:The Koopa Bros." or something like that? I'm still doing some random editing and I'm finding alot of crew articles. Just a suggestion. <font face="Elephant">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Koopa Claus</span>]]</font><font face="Elephant"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Happy Holidays</span>]]</sup></small></font> 05:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
As of December 17, 2010, an incredible Forty-five wikias with 7114 editors have signed the [http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Moved_wikis moved page] stating they have left wikia. Other wikias are currently in the process of deciding whether to leave. In response, [http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Retaliation wikia has desysopped at least 38 administrators and banned 10], usually indefinitely. [http://community.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:My_meeting_with_Sannse&t=20101218004720 In a meeting with Wikia staff member Sannsereportedly said "Wikia underestimated the negative response to Oasis..."
:Wow, the wiki was discussing this exact topic the day I joined!  Does anybody have an exact number of crew articles?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::I have no idea, but I think they're under a certain category. <font face="Elephant">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Koopa Claus</span>]]</font><font face="Elephant"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Happy Holidays</span>]]</sup></small></font> 05:21, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::If they're already under a category, why do we need this?  And on a more personal note, I hope you've seen what GXD and KP think about your ideas. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::They didn't log on... did they? <font face="Elephant">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Koopa Claus</span>]]</font><font face="Elephant"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:green">Happy Holidays</span>]]</sup></small></font> 05:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::::They REJECTED them : ) Anywho, do you know what category the crew articles are in now?  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
:::::Obvious, they're under CREWS!  Some are also grouped by country.  So, you want an entire namespace?  Is there a rule for what qualifies as a namespace?  !!!!
We've already had this discussion in the forums.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 05:30, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
::::::Checked.  The idea flopped then. The situation hasn't changed much. I'm guessing this proposal will flop as well. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 05:57, 10 December 2008 (UTC)


==idea==
;Monaco available


I think we should have a quote of the day or something like that, maybe from internet memes?[[User:Linkpwns|<font color="green">linkpwns.</font> <font color="pink"> '''so does kirby!'''</font>]] 20:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Please let your friends who remained on wikia know that:


Yes, like: Mario: It's-a me, Mario! and Kirby: Hiii! <span style="color:steelblue">[[User:Alex25|I'm Alex25, King of Randomness!]] [[User talk:Alex25|Say Hi to me!]] [[Special:Contributions/Alex25|Random stuff,]] [[Special:Editcount/Alex25|Mah boi!]]</span> 21:06, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
#  Wikifarm Shoutwiki has [http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2010/11/monaco-coming-soon-to-a-shoutwiki-near-you/ stated that Monaco would be available by the end of the year] on Shoutwiki.
:That's not gonna work out with the administration. '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 21:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
# Editor Dantman has created the [https://github.com/dantman/monaco-port Monaco skin] which can be installed on your wikia in [http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Monaco_skin#Monaco_skin_installation 10 minutes]. Dantman states this is not a complete skin. It is missing a few features. But it is Monaco.  
Not only do I not see any reason for that to happen, it won't work. No one is going to edit it everyday, and it invites vandalism. [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 22:21, 14 December 2008 (UTC)


Frankly, I don't even like reading them on people's talk pages. Having one on the user page would be ridiculous. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
;Javascript code to redirect your wikia site
:You can't change that, can you, Toon Ganondorf? Quote of the day/week is a great addition to userpages, as opposed to made up characters stolen from your so called "friends"... '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:49, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
::That was unnecessary.
::I concur with CH and TG; not only are C. Hawk's points valid ones, but additionally a) The quotes would probably have nothing to do with smash, thus decreasing relevance and therefore purpose and b) memes are already used in virtually every sentence; we don't need this on the main page.  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 22:54, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I wasn't saying that linkpwns' idea was good (in fact, I think he was trying to make a joke), I was just saying that QOTDs shouldn't be taken from userpages as Pictoquotes have been (sort of lol) '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 22:57, 15 January 2009 (UTC)


== New section for the main page to help people know what Super Smash Bros. is  ==
This code redirects your Wikia site to a different URL address. :


Hi there all, sorry to bug you guys. I figure that the main page of Smash Wiki should have a section to explain to all those who don't know what the smash bros. series is. I was going to do it but I am not very good at adding these kinds of things on pages. I wrote the description for it.
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:<font color="red">Warning</font>, you will be banned if you add this code to your wikia.


:Super Smash Brothers is a series of video games that was created by HAL Laboratory and published by Nintendo. It is a crossover fighting game that features mostly famous Nintendo video game characters like [[Mario]], [[Link]], and [[Pikachu]] and most recently included third party characters [[Sonic]] and [[Snake]]. The goal of the games is to blast your opponet off the stage by damaging him or her. It is consider one of the best video game series for Nintendo systems. It currently has three video games in the series: [[Super Smash Bros.]], which started it all that came out for the N64; [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]] was for the GameCube; and [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]], which was for the Wii.
;Help other wikis


For more infomation go to [[Super Smash Bros. (universe)]]  
If you have technical skills many wikis could use your help. For example, the new Monaco skin's  "more" button does not work because none of the javascript has been ported. Other wikis who bravely left wikia are sorely in need of technical assistance. If you can volunteer your time, [http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Help#Mentors please sign up here].


If you need technical assistance, please [http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Anti-Wikia_Alliance explain your problem here].


[[User:Egyptianwhiteboy|Egyptianwhiteboy]] ([[User talk:Egyptianwhiteboy|talk]]) 18:50, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
;Assistance with the next newsletter
We would like some help with the next newsletter. We would like to have an interview next time and we are looking for editors who would like to write a regular column. If you are interested, [http://awa.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Talk:Newsletter#volunteer_to_assist please see here].


:Why would they be here if they ''didn't'' know what Smash Bros is?  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 19:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
[[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] ([[User talk:Anno1404|talk]]) 02:09, 18 December 2010 (EST)


:What exactly did we do to deserve this crap being plopped here? Where do we go to "unsubscribe" or whatever? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] 07:35, 18 December 2010 (EST)
::I have spoken to the user and asked him to find another way of doing this. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 07:52, 18 December 2010 (EST)


== Crew namespace ==


::They could of just be curious what it is and not know what it is. Also people could of gotten to this site by searching for a character on this website like mario or link and know nothing what Smash bros. is (unlikely but there are still those people). That is why
Perhaps we should have an entire namespace for crews, like we have for smashers. That way, they become more organized. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 21:23, 22 December 2010 (EST)
:How many crew pages are there? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] 21:23, 22 December 2010 (EST)
::Wow, that was a fast response. I haven't counted how many crew pages there are, mostly because they're not organized very well. However, I know that there must be quite a lot, since I often reach a crew page when I hit random page. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 21:29, 22 December 2010 (EST)
::Looking at [[:category: crews]] comes up with 81 articles. Is that enough for a namespace? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 21:31, 22 December 2010 (EST)
:::Why not just incorporate them and tournaments into the Smasher:* namespace? (Smashers, Crews '''of''' Smashers, Tournaments '''for''' Smashers. Avoids the current inter-namespace fragmentation) - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 00:13, 27 December 2010 (EST)
::::Good idea. Part of my reasoning was that crew and tournament pages are kind of similar to smasher pages in that they depart from the usual encyclopedic style. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 00:21, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:::::The smasher namespace is called so because it specifically covers the smashers that play the game. Plus, a title of "Smasher:Good Shit German" doesn't sound like the title of an article about a tournament or properly denote it. Same for crews. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 00:23, 27 December 2010 (EST)
::::::Perhaps create an entirely new namespace called "competitive play" or something like that that includes Smashers, Tournys, and crews? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 00:30, 27 December 2010 (EST)


[[User:Egyptianwhiteboy|Egyptianwhiteboy]] ([[User talk:Egyptianwhiteboy|talk]]) 19:15, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
== Links to other wikis ==


There is some space that needs filling.. But i like the idea. We could just put some genaral info in from above... Just to make it look a bit better. If there's a vote, I'm on the support side. But im not in on the arguament. You two decide. '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:cyan">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:silver"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup>[[Special:Contributions/The blue blur|<span style="color:Gold">A revolution begins.</span>]]</sup>''' 19:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I have kept quiet about this for some time now, because of the then-rapid surge of edits that added in links to other wikis. I didn't want to speak up then, because I didn't want people to feel that I wanted them to undo all of the hard work they just did. However, today I looked at a couple of our fellow NIWA wiki's; specifically Wikirby and Wikibound. For a while, I have objected to the idea of linking to other NIWA wiki's, mainly because of the fact that it appears that we're advertising them. However, I saw that the intent was that it allows users to observe a more descriptive article about something that we really don't need to cover. When I looked at Wikirby and Wikibound, I realized that this won't hold up. Many of their articles are even worse than that of their wikia counterparts, some even worse than our versions. Even with other wikis, I view Zeldapedia as a better source than Zelda wiki, as with Wikitroid to the Metroid wiki. In fact, the only NIWA wiki (other than us, of course) that I personally view as better than any of its wikia counterparts is the Super Mario wiki. As for the other wiki's, however, I see no reason to simply change any links to a wikia to a NIWA wiki simply because of our anti-wikia sentiment. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 23:43, 26 December 2010 (EST)
:Not that I have any strong opinions on this atm, but Bulbapedia is certainly vastly superior to the Pokemon Wiki on Wikia, so the Super Mario Wiki is not the only other superior NIWA (I could also attest that the NIWA DK Wiki is superior to its Wikia counterpart). As for your other statement, an anti-Wikia sentiment isn't the only reason, it's to help our NIWA allies. As you mentioned, several of the NIWA Wikis are lacking substantial information, and linking to them instead of the Wikia counterparts helps them out, which is one of the purposes of NIWA; for fellow NIWA Wikis to help each other out. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 00:10, 27 December 2010 (EST)
::Oops, I missed Bulbapedia, but my point still stands; the purpose of Smashwiki is not to "help out" other wikis, but instead provide visitors with good information regarding whatever they are looking up. So it is better to link to the wiki that is more informative than the wiki less informative, even if the former is not part of wikia. You say that the point is to help out other wikis, but how do you know that a user visiting will always try to edit? Wikirby, for example, has had no editors in the last 3 days, and won't even allow people to get an account anymore. Also, part of my point is that we shouldn't just adverstise other NIWA wikis simply because they are part of NIWA. I believe the NIWA "ambassator" guy said that the wikis here are supposed to be independant, and that we don't have to act like we are owned by NIWA. That was part of the reason why we left Wikia in the first place. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 00:19, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:::There's a bit of both - yes, the ultimate aim is to give a place to read about the out-of-scope stuff for SSB characters; but there IS an element of advertising partners and allies - which should, of course, be reciprocal when appropriate - Zelda Wiki definitely has "See SmashWiki's article on X for more information" on their ''Super Smash Bros.'' sections. As a result, it's not purely selfless - Google applies a heavy duplicate content penalty to "new" sites that copy information from other sites, and we need all the help we can get to overcome that. I just searched for "Super Smash Bros. wiki", and we're below not just SmashWikia, but also Mario Wiki [NIWA], Zelda Wiki [NIWA], StrategyWiki [NIWA], an IGN wiki and a frankly hopeless Neoseeker SSB wiki.
:::And on other NIWA wikis... well, Lylat Wiki's in the process of incorporating the ex-wikia "Arwingpedia" (which jumped ship like this wiki did, but decided to merge with another wiki in the same field rather than go it alone). Once that's done, it should definitely be superior-by-definition to the vestigial Starfox Wikia. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 00:36, 27 December 2010 (EST)




:It isn't an argument Teh Blue Blur, Clarinet Hawk was just asking a question and I was just answering it. I don't want it to become an argument and I highly doubt that Hawk does too.[[User:Egyptianwhiteboy|Egyptianwhiteboy]] ([[User talk:Egyptianwhiteboy|talk]]) 20:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::''the purpose of Smashwiki is not to "help out" other wikis, but instead provide visitors with good information regarding whatever they are looking up''
::The phrase "Super Smash Bros." in the phrase "Welcome to SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. wiki that anyone can edit." already links to [[Super Smash Bros. (universe)]].  More would be redundant. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="firebrick"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lightcoral">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lightcoral">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:58, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::LolMiles, everybody knows SW needs more redundancy.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 22:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::<humor>Smoreking, as admin of SmashWiki, I hereby appoint you to be the head of the wiki's Department of Redundancy, Repetitiveness and Redundancy Department.</humor> [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="firebrick"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lightcoral">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lightcoral">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::So I get to state the obvious by stating the obvious? Oh boy!</fail>'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 22:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::I think when people want to know about the SSB series, I don't think SW is the first thing to come to mind. I think they go to more popular sites like Nintendo or Wikipedia. Who knows, this might be the place they'll go to for info. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:44, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
I agree that general info for the uninitiated could be useful. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 06:03, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


Egyptianwhiteboy is right, a lot of people enters foreign wikias or sites just out of boredom or curiousty, this is why the DOJO!! directs people to the Smash 101 in its homepage.[[User:Yagomus|Yagomus]] ([[User talk:Yagomus|talk]]) 17:04, September 6, 2009 (UTC)
:::There is nothing of the SmashWiki's "purpose" that has no intent of helping developing allied Wikis.


==So...==
:::''You say that the point is to help out other wikis, but how do you know that a user visiting will always try to edit?''
Any Sysops out there cool with changing the featured "other wiki's" out there to things more "Nintendo Related"? '''[[User:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:purple;">Kperfekt</span>]]''' [[User talk:Kperfekt722|<span style="color:red;"><sup>BURN!!!</sup></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kperfekt722|<sup>Revert That!</sup>]] 11:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:That's not something we can do.  That comes from central Wikia and is all part of their advertising.  We cannot change things that would obscure or remove advertising, and let's face it, we need the money from the advertisers to keep the servers running.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 16:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
::Are you talking about the wikia spotlight things Kperfekt or are you talking about the Related Communities widget? If it's the spotlight, we can't do anything... if it's the related communites, we can.  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 16:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I think he was referring to [[w:template:Wikia Gaming Footer/Wii]], which I think we can change. And which I'm going to do right now. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 14:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


== Stage Origins ==
:::This is an irrelevant point. It's already known that the majority of those who visit a Wiki will never make an edit, but we give them the option to. With that logic, why advertise ourselves anywhere, or even give the option to edit, if we assume no one will help our Wiki out? But with an increase of visitors, the chances of a productive edit being made increases, and providing a link to fellow NIWA Wikis increases the chances of them getting productive edits. What if a Kirby/Smash Bros. enthusiast visits our Wiki, reads Kirby's character article to then follow the link to WiKirby, and notice the information missing that they know and are willing to supply? Was our link to WiKirby detrimental then, especially when it takes only one user to massively benefit a Wiki?


<s>I've been trying to get every stage in the Smash Bros. series to have a "Stage Origin" section to show where the stage came from and kinda the history of the stage. All is explained at the Brawl forum under "Stage Origin". If you went there you can see that only a few people are wanting to help. I think it's not that some people don't want to help, it's that they might not know that I need help. What I mean is that old or new forums are coming up to where the Stage Origin forum is going down the page and being less noticed. I put this on the Main Page's talk so that the project doesn't become less noticeable. Does anybody want to help on my Stage Origin project? Leave a comment below. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 20:43, 15 February 2009 (UTC)</s>
:::''Also, part of my point is that we shouldn't just adverstise other NIWA wikis simply because they are part of NIWA. I believe the NIWA "ambassator" guy said that the wikis here are supposed to be independant, and that we don't have to act like we are owned by NIWA.''
:Wrong place for this.  Try the water cooler.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 20:55, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


== Featured Article ==
:::In case you didn't realise, the "A" in NIWA stands for '''Alliance'''. As in, yes we are independent Wikis not own by a higher organisation, but we are Allies. As such, we help them, and they help us back. It's the basic concept of an alliance.


The "'''''Featured Article'''''" needs to be changed more often,it bearly ever changes, I think it should change approximately once per week, once per two weeks at the least.--'''[[User:MysteryHeff|<span style="color:Green">MỸŠŦЄЯỸ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff|<span style="color:green">ЊӘҒҒ</span>]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff|<small><sup><span style="color:black">TALK</span></sup></small>]] 09:32, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::As for WiKirby not allowing accounts to be made, it's likely a temporary problem, and you can find information about it there or on the NIWA forums. No proper Wiki would suddenly not allow account creation without an explanation. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 00:45, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:Agree'd. '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 10:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yup. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 19:52, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
:::I think the featured article should be... [[Sonic|Sonnik]]. Is anyone ever gonna update this page? It's getting boring... '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 14:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Two weeks classifies as forever? It's technically supposed to be the FA of the month, just to let you know.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::I thought it was 1/2... '''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup>''' 14:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::It may be of the month but it should be changed more often if you want people to visit this site more frequently, and also distant planet has been the featured article for almost 3 months now, and its getting boring.--'''[[User:MysteryHeff|<span style="color:Green">MỸŠŦЄЯỸ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff|<span style="color:green">ЊӘҒҒ</span>]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff|<small><sup><span style="color:black">TALK</span></sup></small>]] 07:25, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


There is absolutely no way that you've even been here for three months, Heff. Gimme a sec...there. 20 days. That's hardly three weeks. Don't overexaggerate. I don't even read the featured article, and if we skip over them quickly, we'll run out of articles to put in as features. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
::::WiKirby appears to have had some sort of crash - the message you get when you try and create an account is "''The database is currently locked to new entries and other modifications, probably for routine database maintenance, after which it will be back to normal. The administrator who locked it offered this explanation: Restoring data from backup''" - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 00:57, 27 December 2010 (EST)
:::::Thanks for checking that out Reboot, I personally couldn't check it out myself at the time. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:08, 27 December 2010 (EST)


I admit, that was a very big overexaggeration. But I know a lot of people who visit this site, and are bored because the featured article is never changed. It needs to be changed more often.--'''[[User:MysteryHeff|<span style="color:Green">MỸŠŦЄЯỸ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff|<span style="color:green">ЊӘҒҒ</span>]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff|<small><sup><span style="color:black">TALK</span></sup></small>]] 11:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
== There Will Be Brawl ==
:(cur) (last)  19:30, 1 February 2009 Miles.oppenheimer (Talk | contribs) m (5,606 bytes) (new FA) (rollback | undo) <br>It's every month, and it got changed the first. the FA doesn't make a huge and important difference. If you get bored of it, that's your prerogative.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::To that I would have to respond, "If you ''don't'' get bored of it, that's ''your'' prerogative ". -But in any case: I ''also'' might worry about blowing through our options for good FA's. Could someone estimate how many viable articles could be FA's at some point in the future? [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 21:13, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Explain your prerogative quote please. And if you're worried about running out of articles, then why suggest a new one already?'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 21:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::My quote requires no more explanation that your own (and this is the last thing I have to say regarding either). Your second question was unnecessarily hostile and personal, and my original question remains valid. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 21:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


Happy, everyone? I was the one updating them for a while, and Distant Planet was the last one I'd written ahead of time. So, I wrote one. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:50, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
I just tried to look up the web miniseries "There Will Be Brawl," and noticed that there is not a page for it on the Smash Wiki. Would it be okay if I created one (in userspace if necessary) since it is relevant to Super Smash Bros history? [[User:Phantomjunkie|Phantomjunkie]] ([[User talk:Phantomjunkie|talk]]) 22:34, 3 February 2011 (EST)
:You can put such a page in your userspace, but not in the mainspace, since [[SW:NOT|we don't allow fanon]]. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Superlative 22:37, 3 February 2011 (EST)


::Happi''er'', perhaps. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 21:57, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
==There's something wrong...==
:::You want more new FA, write them yourself.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 22:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::Heh; problem solved. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 23:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::-Ya' see-now: I feel like Snake's been on there forever. [[User:Zixor|Zixor]] ([[User talk:Zixor|talk]]) 16:14, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
:::Hmmm.  It's been '''15 days''', or '''half a month''' like was stated above. I'll get you a new one pronto. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:20, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


So Delfino Plaza's been featuredHowever, [[SW:FA|suggestions help]]. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Someone's messing with the Featured Article section: there's a non-existant "article" that has vulgar language. Is there anyone who can edit the main page and get rid of it? Also, don't forget the crazy announcement on the top of the pages. Someone needs to fix ''that''. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]] 18:53, 1 April 2011 (EDT)
:[[wikipedia:April Fools' Day|Um...]] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:59, 1 April 2011 (EDT)
::-__- I forgot. Why do I make a fool out of myself? [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  19:03, 1 April 2011 (EDT)


== Ad ==
So, you guys have been hit with the spam too? <s>fools</s> ;P [[User:Peanut64|Peanut64]]
:That isn't spam, that is a quality article. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:16, 1 April 2011 (EDT)


There's a stupid ad that blocks part of the small list of categories. Any ideas to fix that? '''''supercoolguy147''''' 00:53, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
== Melee 10 year anniversery. ==
:Can you take a screenshot and upload it so we know what we're dealing with please?  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 21:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
::This is the image of the front page. '''''supercoolguy147''''' 23:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC) [[Image:Main_Page.JPG|200px|thumb|right|Note that ad on the right blocking part of the page.]]


I get the same problem. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 00:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Any ideas on how to celebrate it? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 19:06, 22 April 2011 (EDT)
:The brawl rejects smash arena battle.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 21:20, 22 April 2011 (EDT)


: [http://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1865 Problem solved]. <span style="color:gray">'''SD706</span>/<span style="color:red">F</span>n<span style="color:blue">W'''</span> - <small>([[User:Silverdragon706|U]]•[[User talk:Silverdragon706|T]]•[[Special:Contributions/Silverdragon706|C]] )</small> 07:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Re-feature Melee on the main page. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:32, 23 April 2011 (EDT)
::Not really..... superior as FF is, we still can't expect everyone to use it.
::According to uberfuzzy, it's not that the ad is going on top of the content, it's that the content is going behind the ad. The ad isn't going to move, so we have to redesign the main page to fit around it :/  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 19:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
:::Why is the ad there anyways? Other wikis don't have it there. '''''supercoolguy147''''' 12:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
::::This a "larger" wiki then some of the smaller ones, although there are several others that are larger than this one. I'd go with he fact that since this is larger, we get more ads, more views, more money for wikia.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 23:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
:::::GuildWiki, one of the top 10 wikis in terms of size/page views (can't remember which), has no ad there. Anyway, I asked Sky to take a look at it- I can re-mention it to him when I see him next.  --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 00:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


== Affiliation ==
== Featured Article ==
 
How long has that featured article been up for? I think we need a new one. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 03:44, 2 May 2011 (EDT)
Love the Wiki. I'm sure it's been around for quite some time now, and I have great respect for it. My name is Jack Harvest, and I am the founder of Team MeowMix, a texture hacking team for Super Smash Brothers Brawl. You can see some of our work at http://teammeowmix.co.cc -- but that's not my point.
:Bump.--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:StarFoxSymbol.svg|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:orange">Star</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">Fox</span>]]''' 10:48, 5 June 2011 (EDT)


MANY texture hacking teams have come together, and are working on a collaborative effort known as the BrawlHacks Wiki. (http://brawlhacks.wikia.com) This Wiki will eventually contain every texture artisan's work, and will be available for download here. We ask that (since after checking it out, you're probably going to be interested) help be given in any way possible. We would love to become an affiliate with SSB's Wiki, and continue to lean on one another for help in this huge project.
== SSB64 testing ==


Thanks for your time. Let me know where you would like the "Link" (pun?) to super-smash-bros.wikia.com to be on the BrawlHacks Wiki.
I now have SSB64 on an emulator, so I can play it regardless of my distance from my wii. If there is any testing somebody wishes to get done, just ask me. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:40, 6 May 2011 (EDT)
 
[[User:Jackharvest|Jackharvest]] ([[User talk:Jackharvest|talk]]) 22:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 
== What happened to the skin here? ==
 
Seriously. what happened? <span style="border:2px outset #000099;background-color: #000099;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''''[[User:Supercoolguy147|<span style="color:#ffffff;">SCG</span>]] [[User talk:Supercoolguy147|<span style="color:#ffffff;">147</span>]]'''''</span> 18:12, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:I've just reported it to Wikia, so the problem should be sorted soon. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 18:29, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
::It's working fine for me, and I've set the default for this wiki to Monaco Beach. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="khaki">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="khaki">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Yeah, I think it just got fixed. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 22:01, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 
== Caching images? ==
I've uploaded new version of Smash Bros. logo image yesterday. And now, only sizes, which weren't cached are displaying new version. Compare this:
<div style="background: #ccc; border: 1px #888 solid; width: 500px; text-align: center;">[[File:SmashBall.svg|200px]] [[File:SmashBall.svg]]</div>
Seriously, wtf, how long it can take to cache image? [[User:Dzamper|Dzamper]] ([[User talk:Dzamper|talk]]) 10:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
:Regenerating speed depends on how often the image is used, I believe. The more an image is used the longer it takes to regenerate it. But why exactly did you fill in the logo? (That's what you did, right?) Now it doesn't look right against any non-white background. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 10:59, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::No, the version on the left is mine. The white background is the reason I've decided to make new version without it. [[User:Dzamper|Dzamper]] ([[User talk:Dzamper|talk]]) 11:31, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Whoah, it '''finally''' cached 120px thumbnail at version history of file properly... Pretty fast... [[User:Dzamper|Dzamper]] ([[User talk:Dzamper|talk]]) 13:11, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
::Wow, now it's solved. 44 hours, pretty fast if you ask :> [[User:Dzamper|Dzamper]] ([[User talk:Dzamper|talk]]) 13:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
 
== To look like other wikis? ==
 
Shouldn't there be a link to stubs and cleanup pages from the front page and say to help out? I see it in just about every other game wiki...and maybe some kind of poll would be good as well? [[User:HavocReaper48|HavocReaper48]] ([[User talk:HavocReaper48|talk]]) 23:33, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
:No polls.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 01:25, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 
==Featured article==
The featured article has been there for months. Can we please have a new one? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 02:17, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
:Suggestion?  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 05:20, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
::Check the FA suggestions page. I suggested one a while ago which never happened. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 07:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
==Links==
Where did the links to other wikis go?[[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 19:55, November 27, 2009 (UTC)
 
== I'm new but . . . ==
 
why aren't teh featured imagez of teh karatcrez smash broz pixtrz!! Anyway, the pictures of some characters, like Mario, have different pictures from different games!? I think that it would be much better of the wiki to actually include the Smash Brothers picture as the main picture and the other picture in a gallery or something! After all this is the Smash brothers wikia!!!--[[User:Dark Falkner|Dark Falkner]] ([[User talk:Dark Falkner|talk]]) 22:03, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 22:06, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
::If you're talking about pages such as [[Mario]], then your being new is the source of your irritation. Pages like [[Mario]] are for the character in general, and as such focus on things fom their originating series. Pages like [[Mario (SSB)]], [[Mario (SSBM)]], and [[Mario (SSBB)]] are for the character's appearence in the Smash Bros. series, and basically ignore stuff from the originating series. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 01:13, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
== Full protection ==
A non-admin user just vandalized the page. I thought it was on ful protection?! [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 01:10, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
:It should be imo. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:21, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
::Agreed tbh. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 02:41, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
:::Massive no. The Main Page has been vandalized a total of once within the past month, so I see no reason as to why we should fully protect the page for one-time vandalism. '''[[User:RAN1|<font color="darkred">R</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="navy">A</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RAN1|<font color="darkgreen">N</font>]]1''' 03:21, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
::::In previous experiences for me, we never protect the main page for one singular vandal attack. If consecutively vandalised by more than one person then yes. But otherwise, no. How often is it vandalised? About as frequently as any other article I would say, and less frequently than some. So, why not protect those too? There is no need for protection. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 16:12, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Because this article is more important and more viewed than any other page, as it's, y'know, the main page that everyone sees when they come to the site. I don't know about your opinion, but having a giant picture of goatse on the main page for any length of time is not worth the risk. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 21:19, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 
== The heck's goin' on? (image transparency) ==
 
I don't know exactly when this happened, but suddenly a bunch of the .svgs here lost their transparency. Most notably, the universal symbols. Example:
{| style="background-color:#ff0000"
|[[Image:MarioSymbol.svg|25px]]
|}
As you can see, instead of a transparent background like it's saved as (I even re-downloaded one to make sure), you see a white background. I've seen the problem in both Internet Explorer and Firefox. What do we do? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 21:36, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
:I seriously hope we don't have to try and redesign all of them with transparency.  That'd be a real pain. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:06, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
::Good news; [http://www.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:Valid_SVGs_rendering_improperly&t=20100125213900 it seems the Wikia people know something's up]. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 01:56, January 30, 2010 (UTC)


== Problems ==
== Copyright ==
Has anyone noticed any problems with the new logo. For me the new logo is upside down. Also the news feed at the top is linking to a South Park Episode for some reason.[[File:MG4.png|50px]][[User:EvilGRAHAM 0|<b><span style="color: Red">EvilGRAHAM 0</span></b>]]<sup>[[User talk:EvilGRAHAM 0|Mmmm Free Goo!]]</sup> 23:08, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
:<big>'''23:28, April 1, 2010 (UTC)'''</big> <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 23:28, April 1, 2010 (UTC)


==Featured Article==
Some user on SmashWikia seems to be stealing images from this site. Is there anything we can do to stop this? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 14:32, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
This week's featured article is Captain Falcon (SSBM), but there's nothing on the front page feature that links to the article. The only way of actually looking at the article is by typing it into the address or search bar. Is there any way of fixing this? [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 05:10, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
:Should he continue to do so, a block can be enforced. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 14:39, 15 May 2011 (EDT)
:Actually, the link is at the end of the short entry about the featured article. At the end of the entry, you just have to click where it says ''more''. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 12:10, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
::In other news, I need more sleep. *faceplants* [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 12:26, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


== new featured article ==
== Cut down on strategy/origins, bring back Fanon ==


isn't there suppose to be a new featured article today?[[Special:Contributions/24.12.118.50|24.12.118.50]] 21:55, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure we should keep strategy or origin sections on this wiki. Saying "This is a good technique" or "This came from that" is opinion. Furthermore, I don't really agree with the removal of Fanon. True, we have a policy saying "no fanon", but we also have a policy saying "this wiki is not official". [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 13:45, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
:We don't really have a featured article schedule. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] <small><choose><option>eXemplary Logic</option><option>The Stats Guy</option><option>The Table Designer</option></choose></small> 21:57, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
:While there are times where saying something is a good technique can be an opinion, there a techniques that are good and not just opinionated. For example, it is obvious that L-Canceling is a good technique because it reduces recovery time, and can increase the rate of attacks (btw, I know that the L-Canceling article doesn't mention anything that states it's a good technique, but this is just an example). It's not just some people's opinion that it's a good technique, it's highly regarded as such. As for origins, a lot of the stuff isn't opinionated. It is not an opinion that Onett comes from EarthBound or that Great Bay comes from Majora's Mask. While there are different opinions over where the elements of the stage come from, or even [[Smashville|the stage itself]], the sections don't go over those opinions. It just simply states the facts and could possibly let the reader make their own conclusion (Like whether or not Smashville comes from Wild World or City Folk since the stage has elements that contradict both games, or like the section says, "Therefore, there is no conclusive proof that the stage is based on either AC:WW or AC:CF, only speculation, leading some to conclude that Smashville is simply a generic Animal Crossing stage only.") [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 14:10, 26 June 2011 (EDT)


but someone above said that it changed every month
If you see a section on a page relating solely to strategy, then you can remove it, but as already stated "This is a good technique" is okay as long as it's backed up with facts. Origin sections are also not opinion if they are sufficiently backed up.


sorry forgot to sign that post above.[[Special:Contributions/24.12.118.50|24.12.118.50]] 00:18, June 3, 2010 (UTC)
We stopped allowing fanon because it was decided that fanon was too hard to determine the notability of, and there was also no feasible "cutoff point" for notability. It was too nebulous a determination for something that should be on the back burner anyway. The two options were therefore "allow all fanon" and "allow no fanon", and of course "allow all fanon" is not very acceptable (it would easily drown out the rest of the wiki). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Metroid 14:48, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
:What Toomai and Unknown the Hedgehog said, tbh. Also, how would fanon improve the wiki? This wiki is strictly about the Super Smash Bros. games and their components; fanon does relate to that, whereas origins and strategies do. <font face="Megadeth, Arial Black">[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="#FF2400">DoctorPain99</font>]] [[User talk:Dr. Pain 99|(Talk •]] [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|Contribs)]]</font> [[file:DoctorPain99.png|19px]] 15:04, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
::Which is more likely: someone looking up how to wavedash or someone looking up a Smash Flash game? I think the former.
::Additionally, origin sections are, in my opinion, more important than the entire Smasher namespace. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:36, 26 June 2011 (EDT)


You can vote to change the article at [[SW:FA]]. If you have an article in mind that you think can top Captain Falcon (SSBM), feel free to suggest it (I'd recommend making an account first). '''<span style="font-family:Chiller;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">--Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>''' 23:28, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
== yo ==


==Protection==
Still can't believe while we ditch Smashwikia, some people still uses it. And has it been turned into a fanon wiki yet? [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Pylons?]] [[File:NessHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 15:16, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Shouldn't this be brought to full protection? Recently there's been some vandals messing with the page. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 18:43, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
:The fanon push failed, as the staff was there to block it, and a fanon Wiki for Smash Bros. already exists on Wikia. As for people who still use it, over 90% are unaware of the move, and believe they're on the SmashWiki they're looking for. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:26, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:It should but only for a while. Rules say you shouldn't protect a main page just because it's one.--[[User:Megatron1|Megatron1]] ([[User talk:Megatron1|talk]]) 18:46, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
::So most people are still with Smashwikia right? [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Pylons?]] [[File:NessHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 15:32, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:::Readers, probably. Regular users, no. One time IPs, definitely more there. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:52, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:I'm guessing Google bombing didn't work? <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 17:36, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::Any Google bombing that has been done has not been sufficient. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:43, 13 July 2011 (EDT)


== Stutter Step ==
== New Featured Article ==
Shouldn't we have a new featured article by now? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 17:38, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:I'll change it by the weekend. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 17:40, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
:Yay! What will it be? <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 17:42, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
::Bump.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:51, 25 July 2011 (EDT)


what is a stutter step? iv'e seen it in a few articles but there isn't a definition or an article on it. can someone help?[[Special:Contributions/24.12.118.50|24.12.118.50]] 16:34, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
==Competitive scene articles==
:It's when you dash but stop before you actually run.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:red">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px]] 16:35, June 20, 2010 (UTC)
A lack of articles on some of the more major tournaments and smashers can either be due to lack of users who can research, or notability issues. Which is it. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 10:18, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:Many users don't know/don't care about competitive smash. That's probably the issue. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color="red">Do<font color="orangered">c<font color="darkorange">t<font color="orange">o<font color="gold">rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>99</font>]]''''' <small>{ROLLBACKER}</small> 10:39, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:Some people don't know about the tier list right. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|PSI within]] [[File:NessHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 10:57, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:That's not relevant. <font face="Comic Sans MS">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:MewtwoHeadSSBM.png]] 10:58, 18 July 2011 (EDT)


thanks. should we make an article on it?[[Special:Contributions/24.12.118.50|24.12.118.50]] 15:43, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
:The gross lack of recent tournament and smasher articles is attributed to lacking users in the active userbase who specialise in that area. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:19, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::Is that the only reason for lack of tournaments and smashers? <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 13:21, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:::It could be, along with the general lack of interest in creating these articles among the active userbase. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:49, 18 July 2011 (EDT)


== Speculation ==
== So all smash games are on the sidebar... ==


From now on, I think it would be best if all speculation would be moved to [http://nintendospec.wikia.com/wiki/ here], rather than be deleted. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 03:03, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
....and logs are off the sidebar, and currents events is off it too, almost as soon as it was put on the sidebar. <font face="Forte">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|29px]]YOUR WINNER!!!!! 18:11, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
:I'm sorry, but what the hell? Since when is speculation good & noteworthy enough for its own wikia? <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 03:04, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
:I edited the sidebar a) because having only a link to Brawl but not the other two games seemed ridiculous, and b) for whatever reason the sidebar hadn't been showing up even though [http://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar&action=history nobody had edited it]. What are you talking about with logs and current events? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:24, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
::Well, I thought that since some speculation is based off of facts and logic, but doesn't belong on a profesional wiki like this, it should be kept elsewhere, so I  built the perfect place. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 03:07, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Current events was on the main page for a bit, at least for me it was. I realized logs appeared when looking at articles and userpages, so nevermind. <font face="Forte">[[User:Forbidden7|<font color="#FFA500">Forb</font>]][[User talk:Forbidden7|<font color="#00FFFF">idden</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Forbidden7|<font color="#00FF00">7</font>]]</font>[[File:EarthboundSymbol.svg|29px]]YOUR WINNER!!!!! 18:31, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
:::First of all, to BNK, wikia will basically give you a wiki for whatever you want and as long as they get advertising money from it, they don't care.  I have found more than a few wikis where basically nothing happens and nothing is notable (i.e. Flight of the Conchords wiki).  As for the second point, it is not the job of this wiki to move our un-notable material to other wikis. If you want it on that wiki, go ahead and move it there yourself, but I am not going to bother moving it especially since that will just encourage completely random speculation.  The rumors about Sonic in Melee were actually notable and as such, we mention them on the rumors page.  We do not, however, allow any random person to simply edit that page with any rumor they come up with. If you want to do that on the speculation wiki, be my guest, but don't expect my help.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 13:58, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
::::Wikia has allowed a wiki called something to the effect of "Wikia is stupid as hell for posting a create-a-wiki button and allowing anyone to use it wiki". They're that stupid. <span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadowcrest</span>]]</span> 22:22, July 22, 2010 (UTC)
:::::Hey, who are you to insult my creations? If video game theories don't belong in enclyclopedias, then they should belong on my wiki. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose>


== [[Forum:Massive SmashWiki To-do List|Massive SmashWiki To-do List]] ==
== Wikibound, Fire Emblem Wiki, and Lylat Wiki have affiliated with F-Zero Wiki... ==


Should we link to it from the main page? <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 01:56, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
...why don't we? <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font>''Who ARE YOU running from!?!?'' 14:07, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:Is this F-Zero Wiki part of NIWA yet? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 14:08, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:I dunno. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font>''Who ARE YOU running from!?!?'' 14:33, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::It isn't a member yet, though it aims to be in the future. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 14:40, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
::Still on wikia right, I know the F-Zero wiki had came from Wikia and would like to leave like we did right. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The Google]] [[File:FoxHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|+]] 15:15, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
:::[http://mutecity.org] [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:16, 4 August 2011 (EDT)


== "Upload photo" ==
== Smashwiki.com ==


What? It's "Upload image", since screenshots like [[:File:Otacon.jpg|this]] aren't "photographs", making "image" or "file" the greater category. Fix please. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">BNK</span>]]</font><sup> <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:EditCount/Blue Ninjakoopa|E]]|[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|T]]|[[Special:Contributions/Blue Ninjakoopa|C]]]</sup> 21:27, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
It still redirects to the Wikia wiki. Is there any way to fix that, or do they own the domain now? --[[Special:Contributions/74.179.110.235|74.179.110.235]] 10:47, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
:Apparently this was changed by Wikia without telling us. I'll look into it, there's bound to be something somewhere that can be changed. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px]] 21:30, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
:Wikia has always owned the domain, someone could probably try to buy it off them, though I doubt they'd let that go. [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] ([[User talk:Malake256|talk]]) 11:51, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
::You're right. I just checked the Kirby Wiki and it's there, too. On another note, could one also disable the disruptive "Pages I'm Following" thing on people's user pages? It shoves everything to the left and really isn't necessary (I'm also asking this so I, too, can learn how to fix problems Wikia is implementing, not just as a request).
::SW was first hosted on SWF as smashwiki.com, I believe.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 11:53, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
:::That, I did not know lol. Point is, Wikia owns smashwiki.com now, and the only way to get it would be to buy it off them or if they let the domain expire (very likely not going to happen). So the only thing to do would be to try and get as many SSB fans know that SmashWiki is on ssbwiki.com [[User:Malake256|Malake256]] ([[User talk:Malake256|talk]]) 12:04, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

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link from old wiki

Should we have a link to here from the old wiki? Mr. Anon 00:10, 1 October 2010 (EDT)

We aren't dicthing the old wiki. This shouldn't replace Wikia's version.--MegaTron1XD:p 00:11, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
Actually, we are pretty much ditching the old wiki; the entire active administration has made the switch. I was planning to put a big "SmashWiki has relocated" notice up saying that while SmashWikia will continue to exist, SmashWiki will be the primary Smash Bros. wiki from now on. Besides, how else are we going to get any traffic at first? Toomai Glittershine Data Node 10:58, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
Let's get the bulk of the content over before we invite the masses to join us. Miles (talk) 20:36, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
What I was asking is a shortcut from Smashwiki to here. Whenever I google "Smashwiki" I end up in the wikia one. I think we should have a link from there to here and vice versa. Mr. Anon 22:39, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
Hey, I've contributed to the original SmashWiki in the past, and have been with NIWA lately, and want to help move stuff. So, if you just tell me to do something, I'll happily help. :D Supernicknobros (talk) 15:45, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
List of stuff to do. Glad to have you around to help. ^_^ Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 16:15, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
Wikia will probably not allow you to have a link redirecting users to other wikis. They will probably block anyone who tries to add one. Solar Dragon (talk) 17:16, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
Pikipedia does. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 17:35, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
Ok, so I want to move images. The names stay the same when i re-upload it right? just making sure. :) Supernicknobros (talk) 17:49, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
If you're uploading images from the Smash Wikia, it would be preferable to upload them under the same name, as that way, we won't have to edit whatever page they're on to get them to appear properly. Omega TyrantTyranitarMS.png 17:54, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
If you want a link to the old smashwiki, here it is. http://super-smash-bros.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page hoped that helps! Mesuxelf Blazeicon.png (talk) 15:38, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
No, we want a link from smashwikia, since googling "smashwiki" leads you there. Mr. Anon (talk) 16:13, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
Can I help upload Controler images?--Tabuu123 (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
I think the Wikia SmashWiki needs a rename if it is possible to help search engines direct users here instead of the old SmashWiki. I don't know if that will work but if it wouldn't or doesn't, contact search engines to make the change. --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) 01:13, 5 December 2010 (EST)
Would have been better if you started a new section for something like that. Besides, most people who go to the old one see the sitenotice and if they read it, they'd go here instead and be a loyal follower.--MegaTron1XD:p 01:14, 5 December 2010 (EST)
Shouldn't we just archive the old site or something so that way people will come here? --Wildgoosespeeder (talk) 21:09, 5 December 2010 (EST)
Wikia's a bitch. They won't let us. They barely let Havoc advertise NIWA on there.--MegaTron1XD:p 21:15, 5 December 2010 (EST)

I just realized a way to stop smashwikia from being overrun by vandals: use that Protectsite tool that wikia gave us in the first place. Anyone think we should do this? Mr. Anon (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2010 (EDT)

You realize that all of us will check in every now and then. We didn't recieve that many vandilism to start with.--MegaTron1XD:p 21:29, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
What do you mean a link FROM smashwiki? Mesuxelf Blazeicon.png (talk) 09:49, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
Mesuxelf, sit back and learn, as you aren't helping. We already have a link Anon. It's in the site notice, something everyone sees. Wikia allows that, but I'm unsure if they'll let us put up a link on the main page :/ --MegaTron1XD:p 10:07, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
We have a link on the main page as well. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 10:47, 9 October 2010 (EDT)
I mean a direct link, not a link to a page about it.--MegaTron1XD:p 10:52, 9 October 2010 (EDT)

Is this us?

Are we the middle one here? Miles (talk) 19:13, 8 October 2010 (EDT)

As far as I'm aware that was put up before this wiki was, so unlikely. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 19:15, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
mmkay Miles (talk) 19:19, 8 October 2010 (EDT)
Just out of interest, does anyone know the current situation between this wiki and N.I.W.A. (why is it not mentioned on the N.I.W.A. site)?
We know. NIWA will include us on a Friday when we say we're ready.--MegaTron1XD:p 18:59, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

Evening out the columns

I've figured out how to adjust the widths of the two columns, but not move the right one to the left after I shorten the left one and widen the right. Help? Miles (talk) 17:16, 9 October 2010 (EDT)

Ba-dump. Miles (talk) 12:30, 16 October 2010 (EDT)

SmashWikia

Egad! What has happened there? Is this Wikia's new skin? I was going there to find an image that needed to be uploaded here, and it took me forever just to find recent changes! Mr. Anon (talk) 22:58, 20 October 2010 (EDT)

So useless a post. Of course its Wikia's new skin. Go to preferences and change it. Do not say that since we can do that, we should move back. I belive you have seen the benefits.--MegaTron1XD:p 10:32, 21 October 2010 (EDT)
*Believe 67.140.242.245 03:25, 31 December 2010 (EST)

NIWA

Now that you guys are independent and since the Super Smash Bros. series is part of Nintendo. I think it'd be great for you guys to join NIWA!! I'm not sure how it works, but the website is right here -->[1] --99.163.246.132 16:47, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

Uh... they're hosting this domain. We're just not officially listed yet because we're still finishing technical stuff from the move. Miles (talk) 17:00, 21 October 2010 (EDT)

NIWA Info

NIWA is requesting a site blurb for here and a contact email for here. So let me know what you want these things to be or I'll just make something up! --Porplemontage (talk) 16:31, 28 October 2010 (EDT)

Have this for a blurb:

Originally two seperate wikis (one on SmashBoards, the other on Wikia), SmashWiki as we know it was formed out of a merge on February 29th, 2008, becoming independent on September 28, 2010. SmashWiki is the premier source of Smash Bros. information, from simple tidbits to detailed mechanics, and also touches on the origins of its wealth of content from its sibling franchises.

Users who disagree with this blurb, say so before it's too late.
As for a contact e-mail, I guess you can use mine, since I'm the most active bureaucrat: toomai{underscore}glittershine[at]yahoo<dot>ca. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 17:11, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
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"SmashWiki was originally a merger between SmashWiki hosted by SmashBoards and Super Smash Bros. Wiki at Wikia. SmashWiki is dedicated to being the most complete, thorough, and dynamic repository of information relating to the Super Smash Bros. series. SmashWiki's editors are excited to join the NIWA community and are always looking for help. If you're interested in Smash, SmashWiki is the place to be!"
How's that for a blurb (written in like 45 seconds + copypasta from SmashWiki:About, but I think it works okay)?
As for an email, I have just registered smashwikidian@gmail.com. It will be available to all the site's admins. Miles (talk) 17:17, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
Personally, I can't stand things with this kind of overeager-to-please tone. :/ Toomai Glittershine Data Node 17:25, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
Whatever. At least use that email. It's site-generic. Miles (talk) 17:26, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
Agree with e-mail. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 17:31, 28 October 2010 (EDT)
Personally, I prefer the "blurb" that Toomai wrote. Also, I agree with the e-mail. Unknown the Hedgehog 19:37, 28 October 2010 (EDT)

I think the blurb Toomai wrote is better, and I see nothing wrong with the email. Omega TyrantTyranitarMS.png 19:53, 28 October 2010 (EDT)

My blurb is terrible, use Toomai's. And yes the email's good. (Mods beyond myself and Toomai: if you want this email's login info, ask me.) Miles (talk) 19:57, 28 October 2010 (EDT)

You guys gunna add that little box all the other NIWA wikis have at the bottom? All the other niwa wikis have them, they're very useful for quick back-and-forth mainpage linking, and interwiki stuff. There's Wikirby's, bottom of that page, bottom of that page so on and so forth. Also you guys should be on the hub tomorrow (:. Then you'll finally be niwa members. Any of your staff I suggest creating an account on the forums. They'd have access to the Staff Boards where you can actually voice things out and have a better say on niwa happenings Malake256 (talk) 23:50, 28 October 2010 (EDT)

Add Smash Arena/IRC links?

Considering how there is/will be a new user influx, how about putting Template:SA Box and/or something about SW:IRC on the main page somewhere? Since we're probably one of the stiffer wikis in terms of talk page and forum rules, it'll lift most opinions of us being 100% srs bsns. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 11:39, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

Support I get rather bored later on when everyone's off. I'm not sure if this is the opinion you want though.--MegaTron1XD:p 11:41, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

Support I support as the IRC should have a link somewhere were new users are likely to see it, and the Smash Arena box would be appealing to new users, without detracting from the main page. Omega TyrantTyranitarMS.png 11:54, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

Support As above. Mr. Anon (talk) 12:44, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

Partial Support: pro-IRC (linking to SW:IRC, that is), neutral-leaning against SA. Miles (talk) 16:04, 30 October 2010 (EDT)

Hey, it's SmashWiki!

A lot changes in two years. Is there any moving-truck stuff that still needs to be done? I'm happy to help. Not sure I'm motivated enough for much mainspace editing but I'll lend a hand in back-end as long as I'm interested. MaskedMarth (t c) 11:43, 7 November 2010 (EST)

I'm pretty sure most of the moving stuff has been done by this point, but help (especially from someone with such experience!) is greatly appreciated. Good to see you back! Miles (talk) 11:45, 7 November 2010 (EST)
Cool. This place looks much cleaner than Wikia, I've noticed. Good move. I can get working on the things mentioned in the community portal and the projects; is there anything else that needs particular attention? MaskedMarth (t c) 12:11, 7 November 2010 (EST)
How about trying to combine this with this? Miles (talk) 12:14, 7 November 2010 (EST)
There's a load of good-quality Brawl trophy images to be cropped, saved as PNG with better names and uploaded that are linked here: Talk:List_of_SSBB_trophies#Which_background.3F
[All the Melee trophies, and the Zelda Brawl ones, have been uploaded already - although some of the Melee ones could do with being recropped - but the rest of the Brawl ones need done] - Reboot (talk) 02:37, 5 December 2010 (EST)

Anti-Wikia Skin Alliance newsletter

The Anti Wikia Skin Alliance Newsletter
Issue 1 (December 2010)
TALK MOVING MOVED HELP ATTACKS DOI WHY

Hello former wikia members. Editors at the Anti-wikia skin alliance wanted to begin a newsletter to help build a bridge to the former wikias about what is currently happening on Wikia and what is going on at the Anti-wikia skin alliance.

45 wikias have left wikia

As of December 17, 2010, an incredible Forty-five wikias with 7114 editors have signed the moved page stating they have left wikia. Other wikias are currently in the process of deciding whether to leave. In response, wikia has desysopped at least 38 administrators and banned 10, usually indefinitely. In a meeting with Wikia staff member Sannse reportedly said "Wikia underestimated the negative response to Oasis..."

Monaco available

Please let your friends who remained on wikia know that:

  1. Wikifarm Shoutwiki has stated that Monaco would be available by the end of the year on Shoutwiki.
  2. Editor Dantman has created the Monaco skin which can be installed on your wikia in 10 minutes. Dantman states this is not a complete skin. It is missing a few features. But it is Monaco.
Javascript code to redirect your wikia site

This code redirects your Wikia site to a different URL address. :

if ( wgUserGroups === null || typeof( wgUserGroups ) != null && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'staff' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'helper' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'vstf' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'sysop' ) == -1 && wgUserGroups.join(' ').indexOf( 'bureaucrat' ) == -1 ) { window.location = 'http://URLofYourNewWiki.example.com/wiki/' + wgPageName;
}
Warning, you will be banned if you add this code to your wikia.
Help other wikis

If you have technical skills many wikis could use your help. For example, the new Monaco skin's "more" button does not work because none of the javascript has been ported. Other wikis who bravely left wikia are sorely in need of technical assistance. If you can volunteer your time, please sign up here.

If you need technical assistance, please explain your problem here.

Assistance with the next newsletter

We would like some help with the next newsletter. We would like to have an interview next time and we are looking for editors who would like to write a regular column. If you are interested, please see here.

Anno1404 (talk) 02:09, 18 December 2010 (EST)

What exactly did we do to deserve this crap being plopped here? Where do we go to "unsubscribe" or whatever? Toomai Glittershine ??? 07:35, 18 December 2010 (EST)
I have spoken to the user and asked him to find another way of doing this. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 07:52, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Crew namespace

Perhaps we should have an entire namespace for crews, like we have for smashers. That way, they become more organized. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:23, 22 December 2010 (EST)

How many crew pages are there? Toomai Glittershine ??? 21:23, 22 December 2010 (EST)
Wow, that was a fast response. I haven't counted how many crew pages there are, mostly because they're not organized very well. However, I know that there must be quite a lot, since I often reach a crew page when I hit random page. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:29, 22 December 2010 (EST)
Looking at category: crews comes up with 81 articles. Is that enough for a namespace? Mr. Anon (talk) 21:31, 22 December 2010 (EST)
Why not just incorporate them and tournaments into the Smasher:* namespace? (Smashers, Crews of Smashers, Tournaments for Smashers. Avoids the current inter-namespace fragmentation) - Reboot (talk) 00:13, 27 December 2010 (EST)
Good idea. Part of my reasoning was that crew and tournament pages are kind of similar to smasher pages in that they depart from the usual encyclopedic style. Mr. Anon (talk) 00:21, 27 December 2010 (EST)
The smasher namespace is called so because it specifically covers the smashers that play the game. Plus, a title of "Smasher:Good Shit German" doesn't sound like the title of an article about a tournament or properly denote it. Same for crews. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 00:23, 27 December 2010 (EST)
Perhaps create an entirely new namespace called "competitive play" or something like that that includes Smashers, Tournys, and crews? Mr. Anon (talk) 00:30, 27 December 2010 (EST)

Links to other wikis

I have kept quiet about this for some time now, because of the then-rapid surge of edits that added in links to other wikis. I didn't want to speak up then, because I didn't want people to feel that I wanted them to undo all of the hard work they just did. However, today I looked at a couple of our fellow NIWA wiki's; specifically Wikirby and Wikibound. For a while, I have objected to the idea of linking to other NIWA wiki's, mainly because of the fact that it appears that we're advertising them. However, I saw that the intent was that it allows users to observe a more descriptive article about something that we really don't need to cover. When I looked at Wikirby and Wikibound, I realized that this won't hold up. Many of their articles are even worse than that of their wikia counterparts, some even worse than our versions. Even with other wikis, I view Zeldapedia as a better source than Zelda wiki, as with Wikitroid to the Metroid wiki. In fact, the only NIWA wiki (other than us, of course) that I personally view as better than any of its wikia counterparts is the Super Mario wiki. As for the other wiki's, however, I see no reason to simply change any links to a wikia to a NIWA wiki simply because of our anti-wikia sentiment. Mr. Anon (talk) 23:43, 26 December 2010 (EST)

Not that I have any strong opinions on this atm, but Bulbapedia is certainly vastly superior to the Pokemon Wiki on Wikia, so the Super Mario Wiki is not the only other superior NIWA (I could also attest that the NIWA DK Wiki is superior to its Wikia counterpart). As for your other statement, an anti-Wikia sentiment isn't the only reason, it's to help our NIWA allies. As you mentioned, several of the NIWA Wikis are lacking substantial information, and linking to them instead of the Wikia counterparts helps them out, which is one of the purposes of NIWA; for fellow NIWA Wikis to help each other out. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 00:10, 27 December 2010 (EST)
Oops, I missed Bulbapedia, but my point still stands; the purpose of Smashwiki is not to "help out" other wikis, but instead provide visitors with good information regarding whatever they are looking up. So it is better to link to the wiki that is more informative than the wiki less informative, even if the former is not part of wikia. You say that the point is to help out other wikis, but how do you know that a user visiting will always try to edit? Wikirby, for example, has had no editors in the last 3 days, and won't even allow people to get an account anymore. Also, part of my point is that we shouldn't just adverstise other NIWA wikis simply because they are part of NIWA. I believe the NIWA "ambassator" guy said that the wikis here are supposed to be independant, and that we don't have to act like we are owned by NIWA. That was part of the reason why we left Wikia in the first place. Mr. Anon (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2010 (EST)
There's a bit of both - yes, the ultimate aim is to give a place to read about the out-of-scope stuff for SSB characters; but there IS an element of advertising partners and allies - which should, of course, be reciprocal when appropriate - Zelda Wiki definitely has "See SmashWiki's article on X for more information" on their Super Smash Bros. sections. As a result, it's not purely selfless - Google applies a heavy duplicate content penalty to "new" sites that copy information from other sites, and we need all the help we can get to overcome that. I just searched for "Super Smash Bros. wiki", and we're below not just SmashWikia, but also Mario Wiki [NIWA], Zelda Wiki [NIWA], StrategyWiki [NIWA], an IGN wiki and a frankly hopeless Neoseeker SSB wiki.
And on other NIWA wikis... well, Lylat Wiki's in the process of incorporating the ex-wikia "Arwingpedia" (which jumped ship like this wiki did, but decided to merge with another wiki in the same field rather than go it alone). Once that's done, it should definitely be superior-by-definition to the vestigial Starfox Wikia. - Reboot (talk) 00:36, 27 December 2010 (EST)


the purpose of Smashwiki is not to "help out" other wikis, but instead provide visitors with good information regarding whatever they are looking up
There is nothing of the SmashWiki's "purpose" that has no intent of helping developing allied Wikis.
You say that the point is to help out other wikis, but how do you know that a user visiting will always try to edit?
This is an irrelevant point. It's already known that the majority of those who visit a Wiki will never make an edit, but we give them the option to. With that logic, why advertise ourselves anywhere, or even give the option to edit, if we assume no one will help our Wiki out? But with an increase of visitors, the chances of a productive edit being made increases, and providing a link to fellow NIWA Wikis increases the chances of them getting productive edits. What if a Kirby/Smash Bros. enthusiast visits our Wiki, reads Kirby's character article to then follow the link to WiKirby, and notice the information missing that they know and are willing to supply? Was our link to WiKirby detrimental then, especially when it takes only one user to massively benefit a Wiki?
Also, part of my point is that we shouldn't just adverstise other NIWA wikis simply because they are part of NIWA. I believe the NIWA "ambassator" guy said that the wikis here are supposed to be independant, and that we don't have to act like we are owned by NIWA.
In case you didn't realise, the "A" in NIWA stands for Alliance. As in, yes we are independent Wikis not own by a higher organisation, but we are Allies. As such, we help them, and they help us back. It's the basic concept of an alliance.
As for WiKirby not allowing accounts to be made, it's likely a temporary problem, and you can find information about it there or on the NIWA forums. No proper Wiki would suddenly not allow account creation without an explanation. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 00:45, 27 December 2010 (EST)
WiKirby appears to have had some sort of crash - the message you get when you try and create an account is "The database is currently locked to new entries and other modifications, probably for routine database maintenance, after which it will be back to normal. The administrator who locked it offered this explanation: Restoring data from backup" - Reboot (talk) 00:57, 27 December 2010 (EST)
Thanks for checking that out Reboot, I personally couldn't check it out myself at the time. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 01:08, 27 December 2010 (EST)

There Will Be Brawl

I just tried to look up the web miniseries "There Will Be Brawl," and noticed that there is not a page for it on the Smash Wiki. Would it be okay if I created one (in userspace if necessary) since it is relevant to Super Smash Bros history? Phantomjunkie (talk) 22:34, 3 February 2011 (EST)

You can put such a page in your userspace, but not in the mainspace, since we don't allow fanon. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Superlative 22:37, 3 February 2011 (EST)

There's something wrong...

Someone's messing with the Featured Article section: there's a non-existant "article" that has vulgar language. Is there anyone who can edit the main page and get rid of it? Also, don't forget the crazy announcement on the top of the pages. Someone needs to fix that. BrawlingbrianFalcoHead.png LANDMASTER! 18:53, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

Um... Miles (talk) 18:59, 1 April 2011 (EDT)
-__- I forgot. Why do I make a fool out of myself? BrawlingbrianFalcoHead.png LANDMASTER! 19:03, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

So, you guys have been hit with the spam too? fools ;P Peanut64

That isn't spam, that is a quality article. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 21:16, 1 April 2011 (EDT)

Melee 10 year anniversery.

Any ideas on how to celebrate it? Mr. Anon (talk) 19:06, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

The brawl rejects smash arena battle.--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk Untitled-1 copy.gif 21:20, 22 April 2011 (EDT)

Re-feature Melee on the main page. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 04:32, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

Featured Article

How long has that featured article been up for? I think we need a new one. ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:44, 2 May 2011 (EDT)

Bump.--Wolf rulez! StarFoxSymbol.svg Star Fox 10:48, 5 June 2011 (EDT)

SSB64 testing

I now have SSB64 on an emulator, so I can play it regardless of my distance from my wii. If there is any testing somebody wishes to get done, just ask me. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:40, 6 May 2011 (EDT)

Copyright

Some user on SmashWikia seems to be stealing images from this site. Is there anything we can do to stop this? Mr. Anon (talk) 14:32, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

Should he continue to do so, a block can be enforced. MegaTron1XD:p 14:39, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

Cut down on strategy/origins, bring back Fanon

I'm not sure we should keep strategy or origin sections on this wiki. Saying "This is a good technique" or "This came from that" is opinion. Furthermore, I don't really agree with the removal of Fanon. True, we have a policy saying "no fanon", but we also have a policy saying "this wiki is not official". Mr. Anon (talk) 13:45, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

While there are times where saying something is a good technique can be an opinion, there a techniques that are good and not just opinionated. For example, it is obvious that L-Canceling is a good technique because it reduces recovery time, and can increase the rate of attacks (btw, I know that the L-Canceling article doesn't mention anything that states it's a good technique, but this is just an example). It's not just some people's opinion that it's a good technique, it's highly regarded as such. As for origins, a lot of the stuff isn't opinionated. It is not an opinion that Onett comes from EarthBound or that Great Bay comes from Majora's Mask. While there are different opinions over where the elements of the stage come from, or even the stage itself, the sections don't go over those opinions. It just simply states the facts and could possibly let the reader make their own conclusion (Like whether or not Smashville comes from Wild World or City Folk since the stage has elements that contradict both games, or like the section says, "Therefore, there is no conclusive proof that the stage is based on either AC:WW or AC:CF, only speculation, leading some to conclude that Smashville is simply a generic Animal Crossing stage only.") Unknown the Hedgehog 14:10, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

If you see a section on a page relating solely to strategy, then you can remove it, but as already stated "This is a good technique" is okay as long as it's backed up with facts. Origin sections are also not opinion if they are sufficiently backed up.

We stopped allowing fanon because it was decided that fanon was too hard to determine the notability of, and there was also no feasible "cutoff point" for notability. It was too nebulous a determination for something that should be on the back burner anyway. The two options were therefore "allow all fanon" and "allow no fanon", and of course "allow all fanon" is not very acceptable (it would easily drown out the rest of the wiki). Toomai Glittershine ??? The Metroid 14:48, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

What Toomai and Unknown the Hedgehog said, tbh. Also, how would fanon improve the wiki? This wiki is strictly about the Super Smash Bros. games and their components; fanon does relate to that, whereas origins and strategies do. DoctorPain99 (Talk • Contribs) DoctorPain99.png 15:04, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
Which is more likely: someone looking up how to wavedash or someone looking up a Smash Flash game? I think the former.
Additionally, origin sections are, in my opinion, more important than the entire Smasher namespace. Miles (talk) 16:36, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

yo

Still can't believe while we ditch Smashwikia, some people still uses it. And has it been turned into a fanon wiki yet? ..... Pylons? NessHeadSSBB.png 15:16, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

The fanon push failed, as the staff was there to block it, and a fanon Wiki for Smash Bros. already exists on Wikia. As for people who still use it, over 90% are unaware of the move, and believe they're on the SmashWiki they're looking for. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:26, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
So most people are still with Smashwikia right? ..... Pylons? NessHeadSSBB.png 15:32, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Readers, probably. Regular users, no. One time IPs, definitely more there. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 16:52, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
I'm guessing Google bombing didn't work? Forbidden7MewtwoHeadSSBM.png 17:36, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Any Google bombing that has been done has not been sufficient. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:43, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

New Featured Article

Shouldn't we have a new featured article by now? ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 17:38, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

I'll change it by the weekend. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 17:40, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Yay! What will it be? Forbidden7MewtwoHeadSSBM.png 17:42, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
Bump.--PSIWolf (TCE) 07:51, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

Competitive scene articles

A lack of articles on some of the more major tournaments and smashers can either be due to lack of users who can research, or notability issues. Which is it. MegaTron1XD:p 10:18, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

Many users don't know/don't care about competitive smash. That's probably the issue. DoctorPain99 {ROLLBACKER} 10:39, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
Some people don't know about the tier list right. ..... PSI within NessHeadSSBB.png 10:57, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
That's not relevant. Forbidden7MewtwoHeadSSBM.png 10:58, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
The gross lack of recent tournament and smasher articles is attributed to lacking users in the active userbase who specialise in that area. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:19, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
Is that the only reason for lack of tournaments and smashers? MegaTron1XD:p 13:21, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
It could be, along with the general lack of interest in creating these articles among the active userbase. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 13:49, 18 July 2011 (EDT)

So all smash games are on the sidebar...

....and logs are off the sidebar, and currents events is off it too, almost as soon as it was put on the sidebar. Forbidden7EarthboundSymbol.svgYOUR WINNER!!!!! 18:11, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

I edited the sidebar a) because having only a link to Brawl but not the other two games seemed ridiculous, and b) for whatever reason the sidebar hadn't been showing up even though nobody had edited it. What are you talking about with logs and current events? Miles (talk) 18:24, 28 July 2011 (EDT)
Current events was on the main page for a bit, at least for me it was. I realized logs appeared when looking at articles and userpages, so nevermind. Forbidden7EarthboundSymbol.svgYOUR WINNER!!!!! 18:31, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

Wikibound, Fire Emblem Wiki, and Lylat Wiki have affiliated with F-Zero Wiki...

...why don't we? BlindcoloursWho ARE YOU running from!?!? 14:07, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

Is this F-Zero Wiki part of NIWA yet? Mr. Anon (talk) 14:08, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
I dunno. BlindcoloursWho ARE YOU running from!?!? 14:33, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
It isn't a member yet, though it aims to be in the future. Miles (talk) 14:40, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
Still on wikia right, I know the F-Zero wiki had came from Wikia and would like to leave like we did right. ..... The Google FoxHeadSSBB.png + 15:15, 4 August 2011 (EDT)
[2] Miles (talk) 15:16, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

Smashwiki.com

It still redirects to the Wikia wiki. Is there any way to fix that, or do they own the domain now? --74.179.110.235 10:47, 6 August 2011 (EDT)

Wikia has always owned the domain, someone could probably try to buy it off them, though I doubt they'd let that go. Malake256 (talk) 11:51, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
SW was first hosted on SWF as smashwiki.com, I believe.--PSIWolf (TCE) 11:53, 6 August 2011 (EDT)
That, I did not know lol. Point is, Wikia owns smashwiki.com now, and the only way to get it would be to buy it off them or if they let the domain expire (very likely not going to happen). So the only thing to do would be to try and get as many SSB fans know that SmashWiki is on ssbwiki.com Malake256 (talk) 12:04, 6 August 2011 (EDT)