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Uh, interwiki template messed up the image placement of Link's OoT artwork. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:navy;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DodgerBlue ;">Reaper</span>]][[Special:Contributions/HavocReaper48|<span style="color:cyan;">'48</span>]]''''' 18:29, 9 November 2010 (EST)
Uh, interwiki template messed up the image placement of Link's OoT artwork. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:navy;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DodgerBlue ;">Reaper</span>]][[Special:Contributions/HavocReaper48|<span style="color:cyan;">'48</span>]]''''' 18:29, 9 November 2010 (EST)
==Infobox image==
Should [[:File:Linkskywardsword.jpg|this image]] replace the current one in the infobox, or be deleted? ''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:navy;">havoC--</span>]]'' 15:27, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:I say yes. Other people say no. We've had this argument a bunch of times, and I think it's about time we set up a forum or something to actually conclude it. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 15:53, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::I second that. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span>[[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 16:20, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::Link in SSB & Melee is based on OoT-Link, and Link in Brawl is based on TP-Link. Therefore, this page should have OoT or TP Link art in the infobox (leaning toward TP since ''Brawl'' is more recent), not ''Skyward Sword'' art since that has an entirely different Link altogether. - [[User:Reboot|Reboot]] ([[User talk:Reboot|talk]]) 23:43, 7 December 2010 (EST)
:::It already has a pic of OoT Link later in the article. We should have a picture of Skyward Sword Link in the gallery. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 23:52, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::::Why should we have it in the gallery? If we don't have it in the infobox, it shouldn't be anywhere.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 23:54, 7 December 2010 (EST)
::You've summed up the general form of the argument for that side. The other side of the argument (like me) says that these articles are about the characters, not the characters as they appear in the Smash Bros. series, so restricting to things that only predate Smash Bros. is arbitrary. Also, Link is one of the more extreme cases. What about people like Mario, who appearances are pretty much all the same? Yet we currently have his Super Mario Galaxy artwork at the top of the Mario page, for no real reason other than it's the most recent Brawl-predating game. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Data Node|Data Node]] 09:59, 8 December 2010 (EST)
:::Yes, some characters can use new artwork, like Mewtwo, but others don't require it as much as those kind of characters do. We don't need to follow patterns like we did for Tabuu's Domain.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 10:41, 8 December 2010 (EST)
== Most Recent Appearance ==
Yes, Link may not physically appear in ''Nintendo Land'', but players wear Link costumes and he is obviously referenced. That seems close enough to put in the ''Most Recent Appearance'' section. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  08:59, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
:No, that's not the character himself appearing in the game. There's a difference between "reference" and "appearance"; Sonic's shoes showing up in Donkey Kong Country 2 is in no way Sonic appearing in the game. Likewise, some miis dressed up as Link is not at all an actual appearance of Link. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:07, 22 July 2013 (EDT)
== Post-launch DLC and Most Recent Appearance ==
There's this one little logistic problem this wiki has never faced before concerning Most Recent Appearance I'd like to see settled via general consensus:
So there's the ''Sonic Lost World'' base game --- sans Link, obviously --- released first (October 2013), followed by ''NES Remix'' (December 2013), which is then followed by the Zelda DLC for ''Sonic Lost World'' (March 2014) which features Link in a cameo. Meaning that a game that didn't have Link at launch now suddenly features him through an update after yesterday, which wouldn't be a problem for the Most Recent Appearance infobox except that a game that did feature him at launch managed to sandwich in between the Link-less launch of a game and its much later DLC guest-starring Link.
Given this scenario and  the potential of such cases repeating in the future, do we now consider post-launch DLC for a game to be a separate product qualifiable for a most recent appearance or do we disregard them entirely and consider only the base game's release date even if so-and-so-character was not included in the on-disc package, coming in only through a later online update? [[User:Pikawil|Pikawil]] ([[User talk:Pikawil|talk]]) 19:29, 28 March 2014 (EDT)
:Link will appear in ''NES Remix 2'' next month, so it's quite insignificant. Let's just keep the original NES Remix for now. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 21:16, 28 March 2014 (EDT)
::Still, I believe it's worth debating just in case a similar DLC scenario happens with someone else ''without'' another on-disc appearance being close on the release line enough to reduce it into a moot point. Better to set down the protocols early than late, methinks, now that we know such things can happen. [[User:Pikawil|Pikawil]] ([[User talk:Pikawil|talk]]) 21:31, 28 March 2014 (EDT)
Link's appearing in Mario Kart 8 next month, and MK8 came before Hyrule Warriors. So... <small>''---Previously unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]]'' </small> 22:22, 23 October 2014 (EDT)
== ...? ==
I added the SS artwork to his description (since his SSB4 appearance has some similarities, it needs a reference in a [[Bowser Jr.]] style I think), but it seems to not be appearing, despite the code being there. ...What just happened? <small>''---Previously unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]]'' </small> 15:02, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
:You forgot to put ]] at the end. I fixed it, though. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 15:04, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
::Thanks Rtzxy, I see now. Can't believe I didn't notice it in the first, second, or third place. <small>''---Previously unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]]'' </small> 15:05, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
:::You're welcome. <font face="AmericanTypewriter">[[User: Rtzxy|<span style="color:darkorange;">Rtzxy</span>]] [[File:SmashSig.jpeg]] [[User talk:Rtzxy|<span style="color:blue;">Smashing!</span>]]</font> 15:09, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
== Comparison between the three Links ==
[[:File:Linkcomparison.png]] I actually found more SS details than TP, although the TP are arguably larger (outfit). Still, I think this is enough to add the SS pic back to the page. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:40, 21 May 2015 (EDT)
:As the reverter, I just want to say that I feel that the SS-related details are debatable and that it's just TP Link's color scheme brightened and slightly embellished, but I want to hear other users' thoughts on the subject. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:52, 21 May 2015 (EDT)
::It's closer to TP. Really is. Similarities to SS are few, debatable, and minor. A slightly lighter color hat is not a notable difference from TP. Also, this is a piece of trivia. Why is this becoming such a big deal? [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 17:49, 21 May 2015 (EDT)
== Most Recent Game ==
Link's most recent appearance is Hyrule Warriors. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:66.75.68.110|66.75.68.110]] ([[User talk:66.75.68.110|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/66.75.68.110|contribs]]) June 5, 2015 5:37</small>
:Sure, but Skyward Sword is the most recent ''canon'' appearance of Link. Also remember to sign your comments (four tildes). [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 01:41, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
::The canon status doesn't matter, and so the most recent appearance of adult Link is still the MK8 DLC. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 02:38, 5 June 2015 (EDT)

Latest revision as of 16:48, September 4, 2021

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Uh, interwiki template messed up the image placement of Link's OoT artwork. --HavocReaper'48 18:29, 9 November 2010 (EST)

Infobox image[edit]

Should this image replace the current one in the infobox, or be deleted? havoC-- 15:27, 7 December 2010 (EST)

I say yes. Other people say no. We've had this argument a bunch of times, and I think it's about time we set up a forum or something to actually conclude it. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 15:53, 7 December 2010 (EST)
I second that. Omega TyrantTyranitarMS.png 16:20, 7 December 2010 (EST)
Link in SSB & Melee is based on OoT-Link, and Link in Brawl is based on TP-Link. Therefore, this page should have OoT or TP Link art in the infobox (leaning toward TP since Brawl is more recent), not Skyward Sword art since that has an entirely different Link altogether. - Reboot (talk) 23:43, 7 December 2010 (EST)
It already has a pic of OoT Link later in the article. We should have a picture of Skyward Sword Link in the gallery. Mr. Anon (talk) 23:52, 7 December 2010 (EST)
Why should we have it in the gallery? If we don't have it in the infobox, it shouldn't be anywhere.--MegaTron1XD:p 23:54, 7 December 2010 (EST)
You've summed up the general form of the argument for that side. The other side of the argument (like me) says that these articles are about the characters, not the characters as they appear in the Smash Bros. series, so restricting to things that only predate Smash Bros. is arbitrary. Also, Link is one of the more extreme cases. What about people like Mario, who appearances are pretty much all the same? Yet we currently have his Super Mario Galaxy artwork at the top of the Mario page, for no real reason other than it's the most recent Brawl-predating game. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 09:59, 8 December 2010 (EST)
Yes, some characters can use new artwork, like Mewtwo, but others don't require it as much as those kind of characters do. We don't need to follow patterns like we did for Tabuu's Domain.--MegaTron1XD:p 10:41, 8 December 2010 (EST)

Most Recent Appearance[edit]

Yes, Link may not physically appear in Nintendo Land, but players wear Link costumes and he is obviously referenced. That seems close enough to put in the Most Recent Appearance section. ChuckNorris24.png 08:59, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

No, that's not the character himself appearing in the game. There's a difference between "reference" and "appearance"; Sonic's shoes showing up in Donkey Kong Country 2 is in no way Sonic appearing in the game. Likewise, some miis dressed up as Link is not at all an actual appearance of Link. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:07, 22 July 2013 (EDT)

Post-launch DLC and Most Recent Appearance[edit]

There's this one little logistic problem this wiki has never faced before concerning Most Recent Appearance I'd like to see settled via general consensus:

So there's the Sonic Lost World base game --- sans Link, obviously --- released first (October 2013), followed by NES Remix (December 2013), which is then followed by the Zelda DLC for Sonic Lost World (March 2014) which features Link in a cameo. Meaning that a game that didn't have Link at launch now suddenly features him through an update after yesterday, which wouldn't be a problem for the Most Recent Appearance infobox except that a game that did feature him at launch managed to sandwich in between the Link-less launch of a game and its much later DLC guest-starring Link.

Given this scenario and the potential of such cases repeating in the future, do we now consider post-launch DLC for a game to be a separate product qualifiable for a most recent appearance or do we disregard them entirely and consider only the base game's release date even if so-and-so-character was not included in the on-disc package, coming in only through a later online update? Pikawil (talk) 19:29, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

Link will appear in NES Remix 2 next month, so it's quite insignificant. Let's just keep the original NES Remix for now. Toast Wii U Logo Transparent.pngltimatum 21:16, 28 March 2014 (EDT)
Still, I believe it's worth debating just in case a similar DLC scenario happens with someone else without another on-disc appearance being close on the release line enough to reduce it into a moot point. Better to set down the protocols early than late, methinks, now that we know such things can happen. Pikawil (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2014 (EDT)

Link's appearing in Mario Kart 8 next month, and MK8 came before Hyrule Warriors. So... ---Previously unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 22:22, 23 October 2014 (EDT)

...?[edit]

I added the SS artwork to his description (since his SSB4 appearance has some similarities, it needs a reference in a Bowser Jr. style I think), but it seems to not be appearing, despite the code being there. ...What just happened? ---Previously unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 15:02, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

You forgot to put ]] at the end. I fixed it, though. Rtzxy SmashSig.jpeg Smashing! 15:04, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
Thanks Rtzxy, I see now. Can't believe I didn't notice it in the first, second, or third place. ---Previously unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 15:05, 22 October 2014 (EDT)
You're welcome. Rtzxy SmashSig.jpeg Smashing! 15:09, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

Comparison between the three Links[edit]

File:Linkcomparison.png I actually found more SS details than TP, although the TP are arguably larger (outfit). Still, I think this is enough to add the SS pic back to the page. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:40, 21 May 2015 (EDT)

As the reverter, I just want to say that I feel that the SS-related details are debatable and that it's just TP Link's color scheme brightened and slightly embellished, but I want to hear other users' thoughts on the subject. Miles (talk) 16:52, 21 May 2015 (EDT)
It's closer to TP. Really is. Similarities to SS are few, debatable, and minor. A slightly lighter color hat is not a notable difference from TP. Also, this is a piece of trivia. Why is this becoming such a big deal? Serpent King (talk) 17:49, 21 May 2015 (EDT)

Most Recent Game[edit]

Link's most recent appearance is Hyrule Warriors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.75.68.110 (talkcontribs) June 5, 2015 5:37

Sure, but Skyward Sword is the most recent canon appearance of Link. Also remember to sign your comments (four tildes). Serpent King (talk) 01:41, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
The canon status doesn't matter, and so the most recent appearance of adult Link is still the MK8 DLC. Miles (talk) 02:38, 5 June 2015 (EDT)