Talk:Amiibo/Archive 1

This page is an archive. Do not edit the contents of this page. Direct any additional comments to the current talk page.

Bowser?

While a Bowser amiibo figurine hasn't been shown physically yet, gameplay in the trailer shows Bowser with the "FP" marker floating above him, which is indicative of an amiibo character. Here's a direct link- http://youtu.be/odUjMhc6YgU?t=2m22s

I think this might be worth mentioning somewhere. - Burb

Multiple Amiibo fights?

We know they will happen, but how? It at least appears that only one figurine can connect to the game pad at a time, and the 3ds extension can only hold one, so how will more than one fight, could you press it on, take it off, press another one on and take it off, then do the same after the fight to save? How will this work? 98.112.97.173 16:40, 24 June 2014 (EDT)

About Training

So will there be a way to get your Amiibo out of "training mode" so it doesn't learn your friend's moves when battling a friend
Zrksyd (talk) 08:09, 6 November 2014 (EST)

Compatability

Do you think we should do a chart for which Amiibos work with which games? Guybrush20X6 (talk) 08:48, 7 November 2014 (EST)

It's a tough call. It wouldn't be that difficult to do at this point given how few games are amiibo compatible, but it could get rather unwieldy in the future (especially for characters like Mario and Link). Miles (talk) 09:33, 7 November 2014 (EST)

amiibos by themselves aren't really a Smash Bros. property - yeah, all the ones we have so far are Smashers in their SSB4 artwork pose, but I expect in future to see ones for other characters. So I don't think it's in our scope to even list amiibos that don't work with a Smash Bros. game. Toomai Glittershine The Obfuscating 13:11, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Wave 4

According to MarioWiki, certain characters (Mega Man, Sonic, and Shulk, as well as Dedede and Meta Knight outside of Japan) listed here as part of Wave 3 are actually Wave 4. Can someone check this? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 21:56, 11 November 2014 (EST)

According to IGN, Shulk, Mega Man, and Sonic will be released in February 2015, whereas the rest will be released in January. I'm not exactly sure if it's "wave 4", because each wave contains about 10 amiibo figures and this only contains 3, but do what you want with that information. Rtzxy Reflect! 22:06, 11 November 2014 (EST)

I'd go by the Japanese order of release, with all 10 being released in January (Even though we're not a Japanese wiki we should use this order since they're not region locked). Laikue (talk | contribs) 22:11, 11 November 2014 (EST)

All amiibo release in February in America; the dates I'm describing above is for Japan, not America, so, according to IGN, not all amiibo will release in Japan in January. I may be wrong, though; I don't know how reliable IGN is, so… Rtzxy Reflect! 22:18, 11 November 2014 (EST)

WaveShine

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/11/26/story-fox-amiibo-nearly-won-super-smash-bros-tournament/#qjx8ujDizKh3D4Lb.01 Worth noting somewhere? 72.105.2.8 14:30, 2 December 2014 (EST)

So...

This could be true. BlueStreak 19:55, 6 December 2014 (EST)

That, at the moment, is a rumor, so we can't put it into the article just yet, if at all if it turns out to be false. Rtzxy Reflect! 20:19, 6 December 2014 (EST)

I don't see why they'd discontinue them. Either way, it's a rumor. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 20:22, 6 December 2014 (EST)

Myth busted. Move along now.

--- Monsieur Crow, Author Extraordinaire, 22:58, 8 December 2014 (EST)

How about this. 178.167.254.202 17:10, 14 December 2014 (EST)

Damage multiplier at Lv. 50

Should there be more details of the boosts to damage and anything else that amiibos get at Lv. 50, like 1.5x to attack? It seems like it's an important aspect of training them. 70.48.100.134 22:37, 7 December 2014 (EST)

I own two amiibo, and it seems like they don't gain any physical boosts until you feed them equipment or change their specials. The Arnge I'm no rubble monkey! 22:43, 9 December 2014 (EST)

There have apparently been various tests done on SmashBoards that show that even amiibos who are not fed any equipment or customized still get boosts to its stats when it reaches higher levels like here. 70.55.34.236 23:31, 10 December 2014 (EST)

Notability of defects

While I think the dual-cannon Samus is notable, I don't really think any of the subsequent defects are, as they're really just running off the hype the Samus generated instead of their own. I think we should trim it down to something like "This sparked several more auctions on other amiibo with various defects". Toomai Glittershine The Riotous 22:23, 9 December 2014 (EST)

I agree. The amount of amiibo defects is bound to increase. As they are included, I can see the page becoming overly clogged with specific amiibos that all have their defects. The Arnge I'm no rubble monkey! 22:29, 9 December 2014 (EST)

So, is it good to edit the page now that the topic has technically been discussed? Or do we need more users' approval? The Arnge I'm no rubble monkey! 22:40, 9 December 2014 (EST)

I say we do edit it, but we at least make links to pages about other defective amiibos. BlueStreak 07:22, 10 December 2014 (EST)

• I think that we should make a defective amiibo page so that we can list all of them, if the amount of defective ones overflow how many extra words you have. I would make a page, but I am unable to. Even if I could, I wouldn't know how. 76.168.47.247 17:37, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

They really aren't notable enough on their own. Miles (talk) 18:18, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

Capitalisation

Wikipedia doesn't follow Nintendo's lowercase "a" stylisation; I think we should have the same courtesy. Plus, SmashWiki is not official. RickTommy 18:18, 16 December 2014 (EST)

Wikipedia has different standards in terms of stylizing. Also, Nintendo official sources as well as fan usage fairly universally use the all-lowercase format. Miles (talk) 18:29, 16 December 2014 (EST)

Wave 2 Release

I haven't seen them yet (or at least Captain Falcon), and I checked the websites for ToysRUs, Target, Amazon, and Best Buy today, and heard that Pit, Captain Falcon, and Pit were delayed. Are we sure all of them are out yet? 72.152.70.243 18:24, 18 December 2014 (EST)

Never mind, Target has them. Guess I just checked at the wrong time. 107.77.90.126 15:55, 19 December 2014 (EST)

Defective amiibo Trivia

Ok, that one trivia point by itself is definititely worth a section, or a list in the trivia point (like, "blah blah blah defective amiibo crap", then "other defective amiibo include" and then put a bullet point list with all the links). Because that shit is getting ridiculous. BlueStreak Speeds By 18:23, 31 December 2014 (EST)

The issue is that it's really one news story that got a lot of press and a bunch of smaller ones that were piggybacking on the first. We really don't need to cover every factory defect, honestly, so it's hard to find a good middle ground. Miles (talk) 18:30, 31 December 2014 (EST)

Is this notable?

According to this video, someone managed to hack amiibo to simulate the scanning of unreleased amiibo, in this case being Duck Hunt. Is this notable enough to add to the article? Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 10:16, 2 January 2015 (EST)

European release date Wave 3

In Europe, Ike, Lucario, Bowser, Rosalina, Sheik, and Toon Link will be released January 23th and Sonic, Shulk, Meta Knight, King Dedede, and Mega Man February 20th. 84.26.240.80 14:52, 3 January 2015 (EST)

Source? And 23rd :P Laikue (talk | contribs) 21:47, 3 January 2015 (EST)

[1] 84.26.240.80 09:57, 4 January 2015 (EST)

Can someone add this now? 84.26.240.80 08:09, 7 January 2015 (EST)

• Has anyone realized that instead of Shulk's icon for the store exclusives, it shows Samus's head instead? Another thing, for Rosalina and Luma's picture, it shows R.O.B.'s face. I would edit it, but I don't know how. Can someone who does know how to fix this fix this? 76.168.47.247 18:53, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

It sure isn't on my end. Try hard refreshing the page. Miles (talk) 19:00, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

This is a common thing I've experienced; sometimes, if your connection isn't running smoothly, certain pics will load in interesting places (i.e., showing a pic of Pyrosphere for Skyloft). Refreshing the page usually helps. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 21:16, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

"Wave 4" is Wave 5

The Super Mario amiibo is technically Wave 4. Though it is the fourth wave of specifically SSB amiibo, but you may want to mention somewhere that it is the fifth wave overall if you go with that. Personally I think we should add the Super Mario amiibo list, sans Toad, since they work with SSB, and include somewhere in that section "the pack also includes a Toad amiibo, which does not function with Super Smash Bros.". Either way it'd be nice to have a reference to the true fourth wave somewhere. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 12:46, 14 January 2015 (EST)

I disagree, as they are the same amiibo, just with a different model on top. I don't think we need it. As for the difference between Waves 4 and 5, I don't know. Is there somewhere that said this? Laikue (talk | contribs) 13:33, 14 January 2015 (EST)

I wouldn't even put them on this page in the first place, because they're not Smash related. As for the wave number confusion, I...might actually consider the Smash ones wave 5, since they're said to be released in the spring, which is (presumably) after the Mario amiibo release date of 3/20/15 iirc. But that's just me. BlueStreak Speeds By 14:56, 14 January 2015 (EST)

I think we first need to come to a conclusion as to what to do with non-Smash Bros. amiibo in general - do we list them, do we mention them, or do we ignore them? If we ignore them then we wouldn't count them in the wave numbers; otherwise we might depending on what exactly we do.

Personally, I think we should count them as "Smash Bros. waves 1-4" and "Super Mario wave 1". I also think we should ditch the subsections and make a table, though not until we decide whether we'll be mentioning the non-Smash Bros. ones. Toomai Glittershine The Altruistic 15:02, 14 January 2015 (EST)

Here's what I think.

If it's compatible with Smash, then we list it. If not, then we don't. Simple as that. BlueStreak Speeds By 15:11, 14 January 2015 (EST)

Doing Super Mario Wave 1 and Smash Wave 1-4 would work, that's what Mariowiki is doing now anyway. Imo it looks better and things should stay relatively consistent across NIWA. Laikue (talk | contribs) 15:26, 14 January 2015 (EST)

lol nothing is consistent across niwa All amiibo compatible with Smash Bros. should be mentioned here, whether they have a Smash Bros. pose or not, with Toad therefore being the only amiibo not required to be mentioned. It would be nice to have them mentioned somewhere, but if we switch over to a table that would be harder. I agree with Smash Bros. Wave 4 and Super Mario Wave 1. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 15:59, 14 January 2015 (EST)

Well according to this, all of the Super Mario amiibos except Toad will be compatible with Super Smash Bros., so I think we should add it. Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 08:06, 16 January 2015 (EST)

Wave 4

According to GAME.co.uk, the 4th wave amiibo (The 'zard, Pacman, Robin, Ness, Lucina and Wario) will be released 24/4/15, at least in the UK. Just throwing it out here. --Warupeachi (talk) 08:38, 20 January 2015 (EST)

Mewtwo amiibo

So...I woke up this morning (around this time is the normal time I wake up), and I was scrolling through Facebook...and I found this. If it fulfills the SW:NEWGAME requirements, would it be worth mentioning at all? Aidan the Aura Master 06:46, 28 January 2015 (EST)

That falls into the "needs discussion" tier of SW:NEWGAME. I'm pretty skeptical given a) we don't know for sure that there will be a Mewtwo amiibo yet at all, and b) the screenshot's Mewtwo model looks very different from the artwork that seemingly was used as a base design. Is that screenshot a Project M one? Miles (talk) 07:37, 28 January 2015 (EST)

That...would appear to be the case. Starting to get a little more skeptical about this now... Aidan the Aura Master 07:38, 28 January 2015 (EST)

Google "Waluigi amiibo", it's not impossible to create a custom amiibo and package it. With that in mind, the screenshot is just from Project M so it's definitely bullshit (plus if it's in it's packaging that means they've already started producing them, which I doubt they have). Laikue (talk | contribs) 09:51, 28 January 2015 (EST)

I saw this on GoNintendo with the headline "fan-made amiibo". I believe that's case closed. Toomai Glittershine The Prismatic 10:20, 28 January 2015 (EST)

Collectables from amiibos

From what I've tested, amiibos will not obtain CDs from their pick ups -- that includes when you rescan. People on Reddit and GameFAQs have tested this too. Kjhf (talk) 18:23, 1 February 2015 (EST)

It's shown right here, sooooo yeah. However, amiibo have never gotten me CDs, so that may just be that. I personally have gotten trophies I've visually seen my amiibo pick up when I re-scanned them. Plus another user claimed to get a Wonder Red trophy his amiibo picked up. I'll reword it as such. Laikue (talk | contribs) 18:28, 1 February 2015 (EST)

That page just says "you get stuff", it doesn't say anything about the characters picking them up. Toomai Glittershine The Researcher 18:30, 1 February 2015 (EST)

I'm talking more about the image, which clearly shows Mario picking up a Custom part and being next to an Entei trophy and then both appearing in the retrieval screen in the picture to the right. Laikue (talk | contribs) 18:32, 1 February 2015 (EST)

I thought I heard somewhere that amiibo don't have the memory capability to save anything but the number of things they're carrying (that is, only the system knows/decides what exactly they have). Not sure how outdated that may be though. Toomai Glittershine The Obfuscating 18:35, 1 February 2015 (EST)

Huh, maybe some kind of ID# thing? Laikue (talk | contribs) 18:40, 1 February 2015 (EST)

Rosalina Not a Target Exclusive in Canada (but still an exclusive in USA)

Shall we mention that Rosalina's amiibo is a Target exclusive only in USA, but not in Canada due to Target Canada going out of business?

Korea

Where can I find amiibos in Korea? 175.124.124.224 00:54, 8 February 2015 (EST)

No idea, this site is the first thing I found on Google though, it's kinda expensive however... (at least where I am, I don't know if site changes price based on location). Also, this really isn't the place to ask this, you should probably go on Smashboards or the Smash Bros./amiibo reddit next time you have a question like this. Laikue (talk | contribs) 01:06, 8 February 2015 (EST)

I watched the Nintendo Direct today, Korea is getting amiibos :D 14.36.196.171 08:21, 19 March 2015 (EDT)

I'm at work right now and can't easily double-check, but I do recall there being a Direct for Korea today. If they're being released in the same waves as the rest of the world, just a bit later, we can add the release dates as appropriate. (Also the MSRP.) Miles (talk) 10:26, 19 March 2015 (EDT)

Amiibo Cards

Nintendo is planning to Release Cards, Should they be added to the page? Igor the Mii (talk) 11:14, 21 February 2015 (EST)

I suppose so if it has something to do with amiibos. Smashworker101 (talk) 11:16, 21 February 2015 (EST)

amiibo info from Nintendo's Financial Briefing

I'll just leave this here, I don't know what if anything is worth adding to the article, but it's interesting nonetheless. Laikue (talk | contribs) 13:08, 21 February 2015 (EST)

4 per row instead of 5

I don't see why this is a problem. Like, at all. It makes no difference on the Desktop version and makes the Mobile version better. Plus, there are no little one head "tails" when there are four per row. Laikue (talk | contribs) 08:16, 3 April 2015 (EDT)

My main issue is that it makes the game rows too thick. I am interested in others' thoughts on the subject, though. Miles (talk) 08:45, 3 April 2015 (EDT)

Since no one else is gonna counter, I'll put out that your point only applies to the Mario Kart row, everywhere else has enough space to stay the same height through the transition. I still believe that we should take the side of the Mobile version this time around. Laikue (talk | contribs) 23:05, 4 April 2015 (EDT)

Alright, since you reverted it again, I'm gonna ask for other people's opinion on the matter, as I don't want to start an edit war over something like this. Miles, I honestly don't see why this is such a problem to you, it makes the page 48px longer, that's nothing. Laikue (talk | contribs) 19:40, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

One or multiple amiibo on a console?

I feel kinda stupid for asking this, espeically knowing how to use amiibo; just so you know this is NOT a rumor. :| It is possible to have multiple amiibo play in SSB4? If so, how does it work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hylia's Eye (talk • contribs) 21:41, 15 April 2015

You scan them in at the CSS like you would add any other human or AI player. I'm not sure what you don't understand. Miles (talk) 22:19, 15 April 2015 (EDT)

I mean, can you scan one and then scan another after the first one shows on the character select screen? Hylia's Eye (talk) 15:55, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

Yes, you can scan more than one. It's possible to have an 8-Player match of all amiibo fighters if you have eight amiibo to use. Miles (talk) 16:08, 20 April 2015 (EDT)

Ace Horizon Combat Legacy Plus

By the game itself, do you mean the the files? Nintenzilla (talk) 20:28, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

No, I mean, if people have used those amiibos, and a new design has emerged, then that's full-on proof right there. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 20:45, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

I get it, but what about Olimar?Nintenzilla (talk) 20:49, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

Ok, amiibo that have yet to be released? Those don't go there; that's speculation. So you're good on that one. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 20:51, 28 April 2015 (EDT)

It's not speculation. Check the compatibility chart next time, it's generally accurate. Laikue (talk | contribs) 02:32, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

My bad. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 06:56, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

Oops, sorry about that!Nintenzilla (talk) 09:15, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

It's no big deal, at least you know now. Laikue (talk | contribs) 18:01, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

Dr.Mario Amiibo in Splatoon

That's so strange, the video got removed! I can't find a trace of it!Nintenzilla (talk) 10:32, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

Well, to be quite frank (and I mean no offense to you when I say this), you might've been mistaken. The amiibo compatibility site clearly shows that only Splatoon amiibo are compatible with Splatoon, and the Direct that first showed the Splatoon amiibo clearly showed that only Splatoon amiibo would be compatible with Splatoon. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 10:37, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

Well, considering the video was pulled from Youtube, it could very well be that Nintendo is trying to cover this up. Maybe not all of the features have been shown yet, usually we get an Amiibo trailer to show what's compatible, which we haven't gotten yet. And this wouldn't be the first time Nintendo has covered up for things, remember that leak from the Summer, or the Amazon leak? Nintenzilla (talk) 10:47, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

But why Dr. Mario of all characters? How would he fit into Splatoon? 73MPL4R Only the dead have seen the end of war 10:50, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

Maybe it was just a simple error. Since Dr. Mario is part of the newest wave of amiibo, it would make some sense if the classification was messed up. Zm123bro (talk) 10:57, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

Could be but I have a theory. You see, a thing alot of people have been asking for as a little joke I suppose is Mario and Luigi in Splatoon with their F.L.U.D.D. packs, because of this I think that if you tap Mario, Dr. Mario, or Luigi into Splatoon, you'll get them with their F.L.U.D.D. packs and can play as them. It's just a theory though! Nintenzilla (talk) 11:11, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

(Reset indent) Yes, I'm familiar with that theory. But that's just it: it's just a theory (A GAME theory!). We should wait until Splatoon comes out, and then we'll be able to test it ourselves with different amiibos. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 11:15, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

• sigh* OK, Dr. Mario was listed as compatible with Splatoon, but it's widely believed to have been a glitch, as it was only viewable on this page and not on the compatibility chart. Additionally, when Splatoon was on that page, one of the other games was not, I forget which, but got added when Splatoon was removed, further pointing to it being a glitch. Therefor, I do not believe he should be listed, at least, not yet. Laikue (talk | contribs) 18:00, 29 April 2015 (EDT)

Well we're getting a Splatoon Direct so maybe we'll find out then!Nintenzilla (talk) 09:24, 1 May 2015 (EDT)

Also, was it true that Toad was once listed as compatable with Smash Bros?

Probably not, this is the first I heard of that. Laikue (talk | contribs) 00:31, 2 May 2015 (EDT)

Well I guess this rumor is debunked!Nintenzilla (talk) 17:57, 7 May 2015 (EDT)

OR IS IT!? No really, can we still take the rumor seriously? I mean we still haven't gotten an official Amiibo trailer. Nintenzilla (talk) 09:08, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

So what do you guys think? Nintenzilla (talk) 17:07, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

It's pretty clear that it was a mistake, which was corrected. There's been no other indication from any official source of any amiibo being compatible with Splatoon besides its own three. Miles (talk) 17:10, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

Do read the theory up above! Nintenzilla (talk) 17:44, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

...I see no reason why he wouldn't have read the theory, given his response. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 17:45, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

I know, I just think we should wait till a trailer comes out for the Amiibo, either that or if it doesn't happen we'll try it out ourselves like you suggested. Only time will tell. It's pretty much confirmed false, but their's a slight chance, we can't know for sure, just saying. Nintenzilla (talk) 17:51, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

(Reset indent) IT HAPPENED. The compatibility was just leaked! Nintenzilla (talk) 15:15, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

What leak? How do we know it's not just a rumor some kid made up? Nyargleblargle (Talk) 15:30, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

Because we have a picture! Nintenzilla (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

Okay, a couple of points I'd like to make:

1. That's Mario, not Dr. Mario.
2. The tweet where this picture was first shown with translated to "If only!"
3. The wiki does not accept still images from an unofficial source as confirmation. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 16:48, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

I said leaked, not confirmed. Nintenzilla (talk) 16:55, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

Plus the exact same thing happened with the NES Zapper. Nintenzilla (talk) 16:57, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

Just leaving this here, in case anyone still buys this leak. Laikue (talk | contribs) 15:49, 7 June 2015 (EDT)

Rarity

Should we include something about the currently scarcity of amiibos scalpers? It's very relevant to amiibo.

Sign your posts with four of these - "~" And also, there's no fixed definition for rarity, particularly in Europe. (I think...) ScoreCounter 06:04, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

'cracks fingers' Short answer, no, it's too late to consider this. For one, the definition of rarity can be varied. For example, there were many Rosalina on launch day, with many stores getting 36 of her, some 48, yet she is still hard to get. A similar thing happened with Gold Mario, where there were a lot of him, yet he is now hard to get because so many people bought him up with the sole intention of trading him.

Another issue is that rarity doesn't translate to other regions or even states. Take, for example, Ike. Ike is rare in the US, yet borderline common in the UK. Lucario is uncommon in Germany, yet exceedingly rare in the US. Zelda and Kirby are rare in the UK, but both can be easily found in the US. Toon Link and Sheik were common in some states in the US, but rare in others.

Rarity also changes overtime, take Fox. Fox was very common in the first few months, but later on became rare. Sonic, Sheik, Toon Link, and Mega Man all started out very rare, with none of them able to be found at ANY store. However, in the following weeks many of them started popping up and they were considered common/uncommon now-a-days (with the exception of Mega Man, who is becoming rarer now). Too further my point, look at this.

And finally, restocks. The recent restocks are the reason I feel that a rarity section is no longer needed. Nintendo is trying now to make every amiibo easier to get. And so far, for at least Japan, they're restocking EVERY RARE AMIIBO (with the exception of Gold Mario). With US and Europe likely getting these soon (as well as already getting Ike, Marth, and Meta Knight), it completely alleviates the need for a rarity section. Not to mention the up-keep on such a section would be difficult to do.

tl;dr We don't need a rarity section, as rarity is subjective, frequently changing, inconsistent, a matter of opinion, and is being officially dealt with. Laikue (talk | contribs) 06:33, 9 May 2015 (EDT)

Idk where to put this, uk release dates

Ganondorf, Dark Pit, Palutena, Zero Suit Samus 26/06/15 Bowser Jr., Dr. Mario, Olimar 17/07/15

Got this from smash Facebook page, idk how to put in article wording-wise. 108.178.162.66 11:20, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

That seems to just be the same as the European release dates already provided, doesn't it? Miles (talk) 11:32, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

The Ganondorf amiibo functionality that Nintenzilla was talking about.

Link

But, this leak was faked, as the direct that aired was completely different. Honestly, don't believe everything you hear Nintenzilla, you've put up a LOT of false info over the past few months. Start doing your homework and always check the validity of things before you post them. Laikue (talk | contribs) 15:05, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

I don't, I just thought it may be real, I'm sorry if it's bad, I'll stop... :( THE END :( Nintenzilla (talk) 15:09, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Also I get these from friends, so don't entierly blame me. Nintenzilla (talk) 15:11, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Also, that was a PAL Nintendo direct. Not from here. Which is why I put it down. /:( Nintenzilla (talk) 15:14, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Now I'm ANGRY!!!!!!!! Nintenzilla (talk) 15:15, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS A PAL NINTENDO DIRECT, I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS FAKE CONCIDERING WE GOT THE DIRECT THE SAME DAY AS THE LEAK SAID IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nintenzilla (talk) 16:46, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Relax. You made a mistake, it was fixed. It's resolved. Miles (talk) 17:05, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

(Reset Indent) Alright, I understand. Nintenzilla (talk) 17:06, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Dude, I didn't mean to get you upset, you just have to learn from your mistakes. Laikue (talk | contribs) 17:22, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

It's okay! I'm sorry! Nintenzilla (talk) 19:53, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

It's alright. Laikue (talk | contribs) 20:00, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Gold and Silver Mario heads

You need to stop this Miles, it's gone on for far enough! Stop doing this! Nintenzilla (talk) 20:56, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

I suggest you step away from the internet for a little while and calm down. Your attitude is not helping matters. Toomai Glittershine The Superlative 20:58, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

it's protected to be sysop-only for edit warring.

that a sysop started.

mkay. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 20:58, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

As I said, we've been using pre-existing colored heads to approximate variant amiibo for roughly six weeks. You've failed to provide a valid reason as to why your system would be better, and instead simply reverted repeatedly when your edit was undone. Your system is bad for future-proofing and sets us up to take way more effort to cover non-Smash amiibo than we have any real need to. Miles (talk) 21:01, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

WTF? I was just really annoyed, ok, I took things the wrong way, but what you said was waaaaaay too harsh. I'm not mad, just sad. :/ And I'm not overreacting I'm legitimately upset. Nintenzilla (talk) 21:03, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

your only "reason" was that you considered it ugly and "it's the way we've always done it". My "reason" was that it implied things that are not true. Which one sounds like something a professional Wiki would be more likely to use? It's also not really a matter of who's reason was best or whether or not it was needed- what gets me is that you feel like you're so powerful you can say whatever you want and not supply a reason until someone questions you. You told me my edits were ugly (well, poor, but still) and didn't supply a reason to why the white/yellow Marios were better, but thought that was good enough because you are an admin. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 21:07, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

We don't want to commit ourselves to having to provide fan edited images every time there's a variant amiibo. We can approximate reasonably well without doing so. I explained this. Miles (talk) 21:22, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Just how I feel! Nintenzilla (talk) 21:09, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

I can understand why people don't like the alt costume heads for the metallic Mario amiibos. Maybe instead have a sentence like "Special editions of amiibo, such as the Gold Mario amiibo, also count.". I also have another idea and plan to test it in a day or two. Toomai Glittershine The Awesome 21:05, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

I understand. Nintenzilla (talk) 21:14, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

OK, this exploded much farther than I expected. Bottom line, we need a better system. Using the Fire and Yellow Mario heads is problematic. To the uneducated reader, they wouldn't know they meant Gold and Silver Mario. Yellow isn't that big of a deal alone, but white in particular is problematic because Fire Mario has the potential to, and probably will eventually, get an amiibo. This also works into something Miles won't stop bringing up. Yes, the system has been in place for 6 weeks, but Silver Mario makes the system obsolete. This is something I have meant to say, but kept forgetting to.

Now, as for the ways we can end this whole debacle...

1. We could do Nutta's idea of having metallic versions of Mario. BUT he'd be expected to keep making these as new amiibo are announced. This could eventually be problematic, as he may just decide to quit on us.
2. We could just use the amiibo images themselves, as I did in my last edit. This would be the easiest solution and the best for maximum clarity, but as Miles had said, it's large and can potentially become too large.
3. We can do Toomai's unknown idea. It could be something we can agree on, but until it's revealed it doesn't hold any real weight.
4. We could do Toom's other idea of just putting a note saying something along the lines of "Silver and Gold editions of these amiibo are also compatible with Super Smash Bros. 4" I feel that this is one of the better options as it doesn't lock us into anything and would require one swift edit.
5. We use the previously mentioned head icons to show Silver and Gold Mario, but as previously stated, this adds an unnecessary level of confusion to the uninformed reader.
6. We just don't list Silver or Gold Mario. They're technically "Mario - Gold Edition" and "Mario - Silver Edition" so it might be enough to just list Mario. I don't personally like this one, but it is an option.
7. I have another idea, but I need confirmation on it before I'm gonna bother saying anything.

With all of this said, which do you guys think would work best? I'm leaning towards 4 until I hear Toomai's other idea/get confirmation on MY other idea. Laikue (talk | contribs) 22:19, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

I was operating under the assumption that the approximations with pre-existing costumes was sufficient since any confusion would be cleared up upon clicking the interwiki link to Mario Wiki's amiibo page. I figured the average reader was savvy enough to click through that link if they were interested in the variant Mario designs, the same way as with the Yarn Yoshis. Miles (talk) 22:40, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Well, you have to prepare for the worst (a.k.a. people too stubborn/stupid to click said link). Additionally, the regular everyday user looking for quick info wouldn't click over to Mariowiki. As I said, it worked with the Yellow head, but the Fire Mario head would just cause too much confusion/have to be changed anyway if and when Fire Mario comes out on his own.

For now I think we should just implement #4 and call it a day, it clears up any problems we could have, and it ends most of the arguments that have been going on. Laikue (talk | contribs) 22:54, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

Also, just as a side note, make sure to un-protect the page before E3 at least. The editwarring should be fully dead by then and there's probably gonna be a lot of amiibo info to cover. Laikue (talk | contribs) 02:00, 20 May 2015 (EDT)

OK, seriously, the second a Fire Mario amiibo is announced, the system is gonna become null. Why not just leave the note? Honestly, we wouldn't have to keep up the page every time a new variant was announced, we wouldn't have to resort to using confusing head icons, and it literally takes no effort to read the note.

Seriously, can you give one fucking reason that the head icons work better? Just one reason, any reason at all. Laikue (talk | contribs) 14:30, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

More condensed. I'm trying to keep those tables as streamlined and free of text notes as possible. Miles (talk) 14:32, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

I see your point, but it's still going to become absolutely null in the future as more variants are announced and it's still confusing to the uninformed reader. Laikue (talk | contribs) 14:38, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

If you want something that is streamlined/free of text notes, we need Gold/Silver Mario heads. Not necessarily mine, but we need some. We use fan-made heads for unreleased characters (Lucas (SSB4)), why is this that much different? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:42, 27 May 2015 (EDT)

...Nutta has a point. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 16:44, 27 May 2015 (EDT)

We're using a placeholder Lucas head icon because there will be an official one to replace it with. That's not the case here, and we can approximate these very closely without the hassle or the future-commitment of uploading special head icons only for this page. Miles (talk) 16:45, 27 May 2015 (EDT)

Fire Mario is not "very close" to Silver Mario, there's a large difference. Also, as far as I can see, you are the only one who still solely supports the current system, so we should probably go with one of the new ones- either fanmade heads, or a footnote. I lean towards footnote. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:50, 27 May 2015 (EDT)

On restocks

On a side note, restocks don't matter. Let me actually explain it though...

1. Restocks cannot be kept track of. For instance, Lucario recently got an unannounced, minor, obscure, confirmed restock. These are not easy to keep track of and pile up fast.
2. Every amiibo (except for MAYBE Gold and Silver Mario) has an announced restock, has had a restock, or WILL have a restock. Making the statement pointless.
3. Restocks are implied for every product, unless they're specified to be limited edition.

Now, discontinuations, if and when they come, would be notable enough to mention, but seeing how no amiibo has been officially discontinued by Nintendo, we need not worry about it right now. Laikue (talk | contribs) 22:33, 18 May 2015 (EDT)

But Marth, Ike, King Dedede, Meta Knight and Shulk I believe are all getting official restocks. Nintenzilla (talk) 07:43, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Let me contradict myself, Shulk already got a restock but Marth, Ike, King Dedede, and Meta Knight are all getting an official restock, is that correct? Nintenzilla (talk) 07:51, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

That doesn't explain why we need to list it and spend time ensuring its acuraccy. We don't keep track of every time the game itself goes through a reprint, right? Toomai Glittershine The Indescribable 09:17, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

No, of course not. Nintenzilla (talk) 09:22, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Amiibo rumors

Actually I have another question, I remember on Reddit someone said that they'd found that Bayonetta 2 would have Amiibo compatibility. I also remember rumors of Xenoblade Chronicles X would have Amiibo compatibility too. Now I'm confused, is there any reason Nintendo opted out for Amiibo on these games? Nintenzilla (talk) 09:07, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

I doubt Bayo 2 would have amiibo. I don't really see any reason why they'd be useful. And if it's a rumor you heard about XCX, it's automatically speculation. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 09:34, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

I guess they could give you more costumes and weapons? I dunno? Maybe it could work something like Hyrule Warriors? Nintenzilla (talk) 09:42, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

I have absolutely no idea what the Xenoblade Amiibo would do. Nintenzilla (talk) 09:58, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Also another reason why the rumors started was because the director of Xenoblade Chronicles had some sort of interest in making a series of Amiibo based off the first game, so people were saying that they could factor into the new game in some sort of way. Nintenzilla (talk) 11:17, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

This isn't really proper use of a talk page. Toomai Glittershine The Boss 12:23, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Sorry. Nintenzilla (talk) 12:24, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Speak of rumors, this image popped up! it's an Amiibo for Miis. Nintenzilla (talk) 12:27, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Now I know anyone can make something like this, but this looks REALLY good. It looks so professional! Nintenzilla (talk) 13:59, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Here's the article if anybody needs it. http://www.geeksnack.com/2015/05/19/mii-fighter-amiibo-could-be-released-soon-rumor/ --ComJay (talk) 19:32, 19 May 2015 (EDT)

Legit prototypes pop up all the time on the site that originated from. There are also R.O.B., Palutena, and other released character prototypes that have popped up. Prototype Skylanders pop-up constantly as well. I have no reason to doubt this is legit.

However, there have been a few cases where fake prototypes were on the site, so it's probably best to avoid making ourselves look like asses and just wait for the amiibo to be announced (after all, we're already technically confirmed to be getting every character as amiibo) Laikue (talk | contribs) 01:58, 20 May 2015 (EDT)

I would put that and the Mother 3 masterpiece rumor on the Rumors page if i were any of you. Jetfire77 (talk) 02:03, 20 May 2015 (EDT)

That has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Nintenzilla (talk) 22:09, 24 May 2015 (EDT)

Yoshi's Woolly World amiibo support

Confirmed to have 40+ compatible amiibo.

However, according to eurogamer, the only amiibo not compatible are the Pokemon amiibo and Toad. (Source) I don't think we should list it yet, but it's worth noting here.

Also, Standard Yoshi is confirmed to do this. There was a better source for it, but I can't find it right now. Laikue (talk | contribs) 11:58, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

Yep, that's the source alright. Nintenzilla (talk) 12:16, 28 May 2015 (EDT)

Doesn't count unless they specify which ones are compatible exactly. Miles (talk) 16:13, 28 May 2015 (EDT)

Animal Crossing Amiibo

Apparently the Animal Crossing Amiibo all read as Villager in other games, your thoughts? Nintenzilla (talk) 21:44, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

And your source for that is...? Miles (talk) 21:47, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

Mario Kart 8. In the files, and in-game. Nintenzilla (talk) 21:48, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

You see, in Mario Kart 8, it reads any specific Animal Crossing Character, not just Villager. Nintenzilla (talk) 21:52, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

And how does this affect our coverage? It's not a new game compatible with the Smash Villager amiibo, nor is it a non-Smash amiibo compatible with Smash. Miles (talk) 21:54, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

But the Animal Crossing Amiibos aren't Smash Bros Amiibo. Nintenzilla (talk) 21:57, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

Nintenzilla, give an actual source. It's a theory, not a fact. In-game it's called an Animal Crossing suit because it's based on Animal Crossing, not the Villager himself. Laikue (talk | contribs) 21:59, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

(Reset indent) Damn, I can never find the source can I? Here's the thing, it can't just be based off Villager, look at the icon, it also has Isabelle on it, she also has an Amiibo, so that could mean the same thing. I don't know anymore! But one thing I do know is that Tom Nook is getting an Amiibo. That was known wasn't it? Nintenzilla (talk) 22:03, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

My point is that a non-Smash amiibo being compatible with a non-Smash game isn't in our scope. Miles (talk) 22:07, 26 May 2015 (EDT)

Yoshi in YWW

We have the yarn Yoshi listed as working in Smash 4, and I can provide proof that the Super Mario amiibo work in YWW. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:49, 27 May 2015 (EDT)

oh and because I know you'll ask: http://prntscr.com/79mbo7 It's not the best proof, ik, but again, they've confirmed all styles blah blah blah. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:52, 27 May 2015 (EDT)

Duck Hunt and G&W

They were found in the coding. Awesomelink234 PK FLASHBOMB! 13:00, 12 June 2015 (EDT)

Every character is programmed to have an amiibo menu. It's a safety net so that people won't have to update to use their amiibo. DLC characters, exempt. Laikue (talk | contribs) 13:16, 12 June 2015 (EDT)

No Falco in September

http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/lcmuji-eyH9hNhru1Ud1Yq9WXrh7XOps

Not only was Falco the one non-DLC amiibo announced today not shown in the "we're releasing in September" shot, but the page linked above gives his release as "This holiday" (ROB, G&W, Duck Hunt, and the Miis all say "September"). I don't think he's really part of the American wave 6. --24.17.78.180 19:26, 14 June 2015 (EDT)

Yep, I was wrong. Good catch. Miles (talk) 19:36, 14 June 2015 (EDT)

Falco and G&W

On the character lineup page on the official amiibo website, Falco and G&W are said to be scheduled for release in "June 2015" and don't have the "coming soon" note all other future amiibo do. Whether or not this is true, is it notable that the website is wrong? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:09, 15 June 2015 (EDT)

I kind of get the impression that the amiibo page is rather sloppily updated whenever there's new announcements. I'm not sure it's notable in particular that there are errors or contradictory statements about stuff like this. That said, it would be a good thing if we could get a clearer picture of what's actually releasing when... Miles (talk) 16:11, 15 June 2015 (EDT)

If you click their images, it says their release dates are "This holiday" and "September" respectively. Laikue (talk | contribs) 16:14, 15 June 2015 (EDT)

That's what I thought (and again, I knew it wasn't true), but I wanted to know if we should note that the website has it listed incorrectly. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:17, 15 June 2015 (EDT)

Super Mario Maker?

Can we not just add it with Wii Fit Trainer? We have definite confirmation of her. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 18:13, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

Exactly. We didn't need a combatibility chart for Yoshi's Woolly World. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 18:21, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

Skylanders amiibo

They function the exact same way as amiibo once the base is twisted, so I don't see the difference between them and normal amiibo. JamesHeart 19:37, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

I added it back because it's effectively a different style of amiibo once the base is twisted, like Super Mario/Yoshi's Woolly World/whatever example you want to use. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 19:41, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

Skylanders and Mario Maker

We know for a fact that Wii Fit Trainer works with Mario Maker. They said it. We should have that listed.

The Skylanders they confirmed could be twisted to work exactly like amiibo. This seems to very clearly imply that they work exactly like amiibo. Actually, no, it doesn't imply. It says it. Flat-out. They are just like normal Bowser/DK amiibo. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 20:51, 16 June 2015 (EDT)

Yes. This stuff was flat-out confirmed in the Direct. So, what is the issue? JamesHeart 10:13, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

We don't need to mention Skylanders, since it's not compatible with the Smash amiibo. We should list Mario Maker though. Laikue (talk | contribs) 11:46, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

Yes, but we do need to list the Skylanders series of amiibo (Bowser and Donkey Kong). The special Skylanders Bowser/DK function with Smash, although the Smash Bowser/DK do not function with Skylanders. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 12:01, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

Until we have specific confirmation that these have anything to do with Smash, we should hold off on reporting on them. Miles (talk) 12:50, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

They said that they work just like Bowser and DK amiibo when twisted. How is that not "specific confirmation"? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 12:52, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

And again, there's no reason to hide Mario Maker when we have specific confirmation (even more specific than Bowser/DK) that Wii Fit Trainer will work. The fact that Link/Luigi/Marth remain unclear is no reason to leave out official information. Did you even watch these portions of the Digital Event...? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 12:53, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

Yes, I watched it. While it's obviously implied that they will work, it is not confirmed that they will work. That distinction matters. I can't find any source on the amiibo or Skylanders websites showing their compatibility as an amiibo, nor can I find a list that outright says "so-and-so works in Super Mario Maker". I've been looking, too. Miles (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

We don't need a full list, they specifically said (and showed) Wii Fit Trainer works (well, they didn't scan her in, but they showed her once she's been scanned in). I can understand leaving out Luigi/Link/Marth because they were unclear to if that was actually them functioning or just a way of showing what's next, but they actually said "amiibo like Wii Fit Trainer" will work in the game.

The Skylanders still seem stupid to me... they said they would work just like amiibo, so if we can include the Yarn Yoshis I don't see why we can't include them. But, at least it's a semi-logical reason. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 12:58, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

The Yarn Yoshi are listed because they're confirmed compatible with Smash. As for WFT, that's why I had it sitting hidden there; I assume we'll get a more complete list on Super Mario Maker in the near future and it won't end up being much of a delay of information. Miles (talk) 13:05, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

But why make it a delay of information at all? And we had the Yarn Yoshi before they were confirmed, which is what I was referring to. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 13:07, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

I was confirmed by an alternate source, NoE, I believe. Laikue (talk | contribs) 13:09, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

Better to be late in reporting something than to be wrong. Miles (talk) 13:33, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

except we have official confirmation. They specifically said WFT worked and showed her working. there is no way we will be wrong, it's reporting something late for no reason at all. Encyclopedias take information and use it, not ignore it because there's a 1/100 chance they might be wrong. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 13:35, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

amiibo numbers in the series

In my area, instead of displaying age 6+ on the top-right of the box, it shows a number for each character. Mario is No. 1, Yoshi is No. 3, and Ness is No. 34. I'm not sure if it says this on any part of the box in other regions. Is it okay that when we learn every amiibo's number in the series, we put it in that order? 1-12 is Wave 1, 13-18 is Wave 2, 19-29 is Wave 3, 30-37 is Wave 4, and so on. --ComJay (talk) 07:29, 8 July 2015 (EDT)

This is on the European boxes, yes. And I'm pretty sure that this was discussed and decided against, sorry. Laikue (talk | contribs) 14:48, 8 July 2015 (EDT)

Already discussed? I didn't notice. But for future reference, I listed them all on my User Page if you want to have a look. --ComJay (talk) 03:20, 9 July 2015 (EDT)

Mewtwo amiibo prototype at SDCC

Here. I don't know what we can do with this info, bu there it is. Laikue (talk | contribs) 15:43, 9 July 2015 (EDT)

We should probably wait for more sources before adding it. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 15:47, 9 July 2015 (EDT)

Yeah. I personally think it's probably the real deal, but it wouldn't be out of the question to fake something like that if one were so inclined. Won't hurt to wait until we see official confirmation. Miles (talk) 15:55, 9 July 2015 (EDT)

I'm sorry, but this is stupid

Why can we not add Super Mario Maker? We have videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW4kCY7pc4o, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfzDu3P0iYI, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbeOoo3CPos), most notable of which is the DIGITAL EVENT (which, although wasn't clear on Link/Luigi/Marth/Isabelle/etc., outright stated Wii Fit Trainer is compatible). Waiting for an official list is absolutely stupid when we already have video proof for these, and as per SW:NEWGAME (which, i know, was specifically for the SSB4 release, but it's still a nice guideline even if not official), that's perfectly usable. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 17:56, 23 July 2015 (EDT)

I have to agree. We probably won't receive a full list for weeks, and we can't just ignore the title until then. Nyargleblargle (Talk) 18:32, 23 July 2015 (EDT)

I have to agree too it is stupid... also it seems that 80 or more amiibo will be compatible with Super Mario Maker...178.167.254.46 07:47, 24 July 2015 (EDT)

What does everyone else think (particularly admin-types)? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 22:31, 25 July 2015 (EDT)

...oh wait, admin-types added it. Okeydoke, I'm done here. :P ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 22:34, 25 July 2015 (EDT)