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#'''Oppose'''. [[SmashWiki:General disclaimer|We already have a general disclaimer]]. I don't think we need to specify this and in fact I think it would serve to empower those who have allegations against them to flag them this way rather than leaving things at the baseline we currently do: "we report the factual existence of the allegations and don't pass judgment ourselves". [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 10:51, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | #'''Oppose'''. [[SmashWiki:General disclaimer|We already have a general disclaimer]]. I don't think we need to specify this and in fact I think it would serve to empower those who have allegations against them to flag them this way rather than leaving things at the baseline we currently do: "we report the factual existence of the allegations and don't pass judgment ourselves". [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 10:51, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
#:There is absolutely no way that general disclaimer is sufficient here. And in what capacity are we empowering those with allegations made against them by placing a disclaimer at the top of their section before going on to provide a list of allegations that have been made against them? I really don't understand how you can look at something [[Smasher:Xaltis#Controversy|like this]], and say that we are not contributing to this very real issue? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 10:57, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | #:There is absolutely no way that general disclaimer is sufficient here. And in what capacity are we empowering those with allegations made against them by placing a disclaimer at the top of their section before going on to provide a list of allegations that have been made against them? I really don't understand how you can look at something [[Smasher:Xaltis#Controversy|like this]], and say that we are not contributing to this very real issue? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 10:57, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
#::The Xaltis situation is, to my knowledge, in the process of being rewritten right now to encompass additional details about her behavior that are currently not there, so that's not in a stable place to use as a reference point. More generally, I don't see why we should have to hedge our reporting further when we can simply list the allegations and any response from the player, list any bans/consequences that have resulted, cite our sources, and not attempt to say anything that isn't neutral, factual reporting. Stating that the assumption is that allegations are "unsupported" would only serve to imply that accusers' claims shouldn't be taken seriously. Besides, if the claim isn't supported by citations, it shouldn't be here in the first place to need such a disclaimer anyway. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 11:03, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | |||
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