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Vergeben Split

Just to keep this topic relevant. I still support either splitting the Vergeben rumors into it's own page or migrating Vergeben's correct/confirmed leaks to the Leak page. Reason being the section is too large at over 9,000 bytes. The One IP Dude (talk) 05:18, June 20, 2019 (EDT)

Last time, the admins decided on the discord (apparently; I don’t use discord) that Vergeben wasn’t notable enough. I heavily disagree with this notion. Vergeben is still talked about on reddit and gamefaqs, and I don’t even think Gemastu went on for this long. I’d argue that Vergeben is more notable than Gemastu based on how it’s been ongoing for over a year alone. Also, even if we shouldn’t split him, the fact that the only thing missing right now is a Minecraft boss doesn’t disqualify the fact that the rest of his info was correct. Since Loz18 is on both this page and the leaks page for his correct and incorrect content, we should leave the Minecraft mentions on this page, then move the rest over to the leaks page. Lou Cena (talk) 13:50, June 20, 2019 (EDT)

I support this proposition. CardboardLuigi (talk) 14:07, June 20, 2019 (EDT)

Supporting the split once again --Tailikku (talk) 16:21, June 23, 2019 (EDT)

I support Vergeben is clearly notable enough. Jf811 (talk) 22:11, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

Support. Clear notability. Bwburke94 (talk) 17:26, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

Support. Agreed honestly, the Minecraft Leak was probably Rathalos anyway.RobbyB3ll4s (talk) , July 10, 2019 (EST)

Support. Operationgamer17 (talk) 15:01, July 8, 2019 (EDT)

Support. --Doggieboy9 (talk) 11:31, July 15, 2019 (EDT)

Milk-BOSATU rumor

There is a rumor going on right after E3 2019 that a Japanese twitter user named Milk-BOSATU (or niconico_test_1 at his twitter account) has sources related to one of the DLC fighters in the fighters pass.

https://twitter.com/niconico_test_1/status/1050302553118859265

This one of the sources that Milk-BOSATU got right and this is just before Smash Ultimate was out and it said that the Hero from Dragon Quest will be in smash as a playable with alts based off other heroes (he also said that the hero doesn't have any female alts) and the Switch would have VR content, both of which are right (the Switch VR content is later revealed to be part of Nintendo Labo series and the Hero's alts are revealed in his trailer.).

Next up, Milk-BOSATU has sources given from his friend named, Mr. H and he stated that Mr. H went to Nintendo and saw one of the DLC fighters, here is a collection of links that Milk-BOSATU got from Mr. H.

https://twitter.com/niconico_test_1/status/1073789370606354432

https://twitter.com/niconico_test_1/status/1140068471037820930

https://twitter.com/niconico_test_1/status/1140518695032070144

https://twitter.com/niconico_test_1/status/1140584584477679616

https://twitter.com/niconico_test_1/status/1141278892281307137

https://twitter.com/niconico_test_1/status/1141276425644695552

Here is so far we know about Milk-BOSATU's info on the next character.

• She is a female.
• She throws a weapon like a hammer or a boomerang.
• She looks like a fighting game character which means that she might not be from a game franchise with a fighting genre.
• She will come right after Banjo and Kazooie.
• She is not Neptune or Reimu.
• The 3D model of her doesn't have color (probably from a 3D software).

Would you put that into the rumors page? --Andreepika11233 (talk) 16:25, June 21, 2019 (EDT)

• I personally think it should. It's reminiscent of similar rumors. CardboardLuigi (talk) 19:00, June 23, 2019 (EDT)

Moving to "Rumors"

While I personally think it should be moved instead to "Rumor" (we don't call the leak page "Leaks" after all), it always bothered me that this page was called "List of rumors" while the leak page was simply called "Leak". - EndGenuity (talk) 17:00, June 23, 2019 (EDT)

I support this move.--Tailikku (talk) 17:39, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

I oppose this move. Simply calling it "rumor" sounds very incomplete. CardboardLuigi (talk) 21:38, June 24, 2019 (EDT)

What if we moved Leak to List of Leaks instead? Lou Cena (talk) 13:44, June 25, 2019 (EDT)

I feel like that's a bit too wordy. Maybe Leaks would be a more suitable name than List of leaks. -- Scorbunny (talk • contributions) 14:12, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

I'm in full swing support, but I'd call the page Rumors instead since we are talking about numerous rumors. -- Scorbunny (talk • contributions) 14:12, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

Support for reasons mentioned above. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer Leave a message if needed 14:14, June 26, 2019 (EDT)

I support this move. The One IP Dude (talk) 13:35, June 28, 2019 (EDT)

Strong oppose because I think "leak" should instead be moved to "list of notable leaks", and this goes to "list of notable rumours". Toomai Glittershine The Interspacial 11:00, July 6, 2019 (EDT)

Support in theory, but superseded by the other request. I'd prefer both to be "List of..." if they had to share a title. Bwburke94 (talk) 17:26, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

Slight update: per my post on the leak page's talk, I am fine with any name as long as the names are made consistent. - EndGenuity (talk) 18:18, July 7, 2019 (EDT)

So, um... have we reached a consensus here? Asking so I can move this and/or Leak. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer Leave a message if needed 14:00, July 29, 2019 (EDT)

Paragon Leak

So I only just now found out about this leak, but it's pretty interesting. Basically, before E3 2019, a Discord user by the name of Paragon claimed a number of things about the Fighters Pass, including the presence of Hero, with the Luminary as the default alt along with Erdrick, the Dragon Quest 8 protagonist, and one other one that they didn't recognize (Solo). They also noted that they would kick off the Direct (though they used the term "trailer") and that they would have a JRPG mechanic (presumably the MP Gauge). They then went on to say that Banjo's reveal would be a repeat of K. Rool's, but with Duck Hunt being the fakeout. (Additionally, they claimed Breath of the Wild 2 was happening.) This makes their next two claims a little more plausible - Challenger Pack 4 will reportedly feature Undertale representation, with the character likely being either Sans or Frisk, along with the claim that Waluigi will round out the Fighters Pass. Notably, Paragon also says that K. Rool's fate in Banjo's trailer - being buried underground - will lead into the Undertale reveal. I can understand that there are issues here - Waluigi is an Assist Trophy, and the rumored characters clash with other reputable leaks, but unless it's been debunked already, I think it deserves a spot on the list of rumors section. I've had my own reasons for thinking an Undertale rep could get in as well - we know Nintendo chose the DLC characters, and one of the first articles for the Indie News channel on the Switch was a two-part interview with Undertale dev Toby Fox. (This was in September, if I remember correctly.) There was a picture headlining it, showing Toby - his face covered up by the Annoying Dog - standing outside of Nintendo of Japan's headquarters. and the article confirmed he received a tour of the building. I would think that the interview was also conducted there, but why? Wouldn't it make more sense to hold the interview over the Internet, or even at Nintendo of America HQ? It makes me think that Toby was brought to the Japan HQ for a reason - Nintendo wanted to approach him about the possibility of including an Undertale character as DLC for Smash Ultimate. I think this leak might have a shot at being legit, but at the same time, I could definitely see that not being the case. Thoughts on adding it to the list of rumors section?

Oh, and here's the image: https://twitter.com/JakeofAura/status/1139994686691651587/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1139994686691651587&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcomicbook.com%2Fgaming%2F2019%2F06%2F19%2Fsuper-smash-bros-ultimate-nintendo-switch-dlc-waluigi%2F

PikaPhantom (talk) 16:09, July 17, 2019 (EDT)PikaPhantom

I saw this. Given:

A. a huge lack of major indie representation seen in Smash (we only have had Commander Video, Shantae, and Shovel Knight, but where are bigger ones like Cave Story or Binding of Isaac?)

B. Sakurai's near-outright refusal to make Waluigi a character

C. the fact that anyone can make a leak

I'm more inclined to believe that this was a case of someone having legitimate information (Hero and Banjo) and adding whatever they want on top to make them seem to know everything. That has happened before. Granted, if this proves to be true, I'll eat my words, but right now, I don't think this is all that noteworthy to put on here, because I only ever really saw a few people talk about this. Aidan, the Rurouni 16:16, July 17, 2019 (EDT)

I'd agree that Waluigi means it's bull, but i don't get why the presence of some indie content means more is less likely. Who even asked for Isaac, anyway? Crittler1000+ (talk) 15:09, July 21, 2019 (EDT)

I thought it was proven false, they're still parading this one around?

On a side note, King K. Rool being buried underground is obviously a reference to Gruntilda's fate at the end of Banjo-Kazooie, not the opening to Undertale. The stipulation at play here is on the same level as that "pancakes theory" regarding the same trailer. CardboardLuigi (talk) 20:35, July 17, 2019 (EDT)