Talk:Mine / Craft / Create Block
Mining Material Order[edit]
I previously listed the material order, but saw that I haven't included a bunch of them. So instead, here is a link to a much more organized list, compiled by Meshima: https://pastebin.com/S3jB7Hkf Thecontributor22 (talk) 11:48, October 19, 2020 (EDT)
- is this going to be included? This would be very helpful 8.40.206.72 20:29, October 26, 2020 (EDT)
Terrain[edit]
Would it be appropriate to make a table of which material Mine considers each Terrain to be? --Jumbods64 (talk) 13:46, October 14, 2020 (EDT)
- Do you mean specific parts of a stage, too (like for stages with multiple transitions, like Pokemon Stadium)? Thecontributor22 (talk) 16:01, October 14, 2020 (EDT)
- Specific parts. For example, Mementos is mostly stone, including the platforms. The red and black barriers that appear to block the blast zones off temporarily mostly yield dirt. Another good question is whether or not this info is placed on this page or on each stage page. Blackbrass (talk) 01:44, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
- I don't know if somebody already did the same, but I actually went to the different stages and tested it. I'm currently converting it into a table format so it will be easier to view. I will show it in the discussion tab when I am finished.Thecontributor22 (talk) 12:24, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
- Here it is.
- I don't know if somebody already did the same, but I actually went to the different stages and tested it. I'm currently converting it into a table format so it will be easier to view. I will show it in the discussion tab when I am finished.Thecontributor22 (talk) 12:24, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
- Specific parts. For example, Mementos is mostly stone, including the platforms. The red and black barriers that appear to block the blast zones off temporarily mostly yield dirt. Another good question is whether or not this info is placed on this page or on each stage page. Blackbrass (talk) 01:44, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
Stage/Element | Terrain Class | Part of Stage | Notes |
---|---|---|---|
By Stage | |||
3D Land | Dirt | earth, yellow soft platforms, Donut Blocks, Flip Panels, red column, valley platforms, giant blocks, railed soft platforms | |
Stone | Bricks, ? Blocks | ||
Iron | grated floors, Warp Pipes | ||
75m | Iron | entire stage | |
All Battlefield/Ω version stages | Neutral | entire stage | |
Arena Ferox | Wood | wood platforms | |
Stone | main platform, stone platforms | ||
Balloon Fight | Dirt | all platforms | |
Stone | breakable rocks | * Sometimes the stage can load without the breakable rocks | |
Battlefield | Neutral | entire stage | |
Big Battlefield | |||
Big Blue | Iron | entire stage | |
Boxing Ring | Dirt | ropes | |
Wood | ring | * Both the inside and the outside of the ring | |
Iron | entrance platforms, light fixture | ||
Bridge of Eldin | Stone | entire stage | |
Brinstar | Dirt | connecting blob, flesh poles, left and right soft platforms | |
Iron | main platform, middle soft platform | ||
Brinstar Depths | Stone | green lights | |
Iron | main platform, floating platforms, protrusions | ||
Castle Siege | Dirt | throne room | |
Stone | castle roof, underground cavern | ||
Coliseum | Stone | entire stage | |
Corneria | Iron | ||
Delfino Plaza | Dirt | beach, grass, beach umbrellas | |
Stone | soft platforms, stone pillars, building roof, Shine Gate, courtyard, walkways | ||
Iron | transitioning platform | ||
Distant Planet | Dirt | main platform, leaves, Red Bulborb | |
Wood | downward slope | ||
Dracula's Castle | Dirt | carpets | |
Stone | soft platforms, stairs | ||
Dream Land (SSB) | Dirt | main platform | |
Wood | soft platforms | ||
Dream Land GB | Sand | Green Greens, Float Islands, Mt. Dedede, Bubbly Clouds, Castle Lololo | |
Wood | Float Islands | ||
Stone | Castle Lololo, Castle Lololo | ||
Duck Hunt (stage) | Dirt | entire stage | |
Figure-8 Circuit | Dirt | offroad | |
Stone | racetrack | ||
Final Destination | Neutral | entire stage | |
Find Mii | Stone | main platforms | |
Iron | cage | ||
Flat Zone X | Iron | entire stage | *In the Helmet layout, if Steve mines on the paint spill, he will use his shovel despite it having an Iron terrain class |
Fountain of Dreams | Dirt | main platform | |
Stone | soft platforms | ||
Fourside | Stone | buildings, UFO | |
Iron | crane-suspended platform | ||
Frigate Orpheon | Iron | entire stage | |
Gamer | Dirt | soft platforms | |
Wood | main platform, soft platforms, solid platforms | ||
Garden of Hope | Dirt | main platforms | |
Wood | stick, edge of stage | ||
Stone | bridge, china pot | ||
Iron | tin lifts | ||
Garreg Mach Monastery | Dirt | Marketplace, magic platform | |
Wood | Marketplace | ||
Stone | Marketplace, Reception Hall, Bridge, Cathedral | ||
Iron | Reception Hall | ||
Gaur Plain | Dirt | solid platforms | |
Stone | soft platforms, side of solid platforms | ||
Gerudo Valley | Dirt | main platform, chasm walls | |
Wood | bridge, soft platforms, chasm platforms | ||
Stone | main platform | ||
Golden Plains | Dirt | main platform, brown soft platform, "treetop" platforms, mushroom platforms | |
Iron | yellow soft platforms, scale platforms, Warp Pipe | ||
Great Bay | Dirt | Tingle's balloon, turtle | |
Stone | floating rock, turtle | ||
Iron | main platforms | ||
Great Plateau Tower | Stone | entire stage | |
Green Greens | Dirt | entire stage | |
Green Hill Zone | Dirt | grass | |
Wood | bridge | ||
Stone | checkered ground | ||
Halberd | Wood | Halberd bridge | |
Iron | hangar, floating platform, soft platform | ||
Hanenbow | Wood | entire stage | |
Hyrule Castle | Stone | entire stage | |
Jungle Japes | Wood | entire stage | |
Kalos Pokemon League | Dirt | main platform | |
Stone | main platform, soft platforms, ramps | ||
Iron | swords | ||
King of Fighters Stadium | Iron | entire stage | |
Kongo Falls | Wood | main stage | |
Stone | rock | ||
Kongo Jungle (SSB) | Wood | entire stage | |
Living Room | Wool | high-heel, toy burger, toy cube, toy mouse | |
Wood | floor, building blocks | ||
Iron | gold bar | ||
Luigi's Mansion | Wood | ground floor, second floor, soft platforms | |
Stone | ground floor, roof | ||
Lylat Cruise | Iron | entire stage | |
Magicant | Wool | pink platforms, tomato, tree, Mobile Sprout | |
Stone | Dungeon Man | ||
Iron | Sky Runner, octopus statue | ||
Mario Bros. | Iron | entire stage | |
Mario Circuit (SSB4) | Dirt | grass | |
Wood | racetrack, bridge | ||
Stone | circular tower, racetrack | ||
Iron | transitioning platform, island, "Mario Circuit" sign, "Mario Motors" sign, floating platform | ||
Mario Galaxy | Dirt | main ground | |
Iron | soft platforms | ||
Mementos | Dirt | large wall | |
Stone | main stage, soft platform, third platform | ||
Midgar | Iron | entire stage | |
Minecraft World | Dirt | grass blocks, dirt blocks, snow blocks, hay bales, leaves | |
Wood | wood blocks, wood planks, soft platforms | ||
Stone | stone blocks | ||
Iron | iron ore | ||
Moray Towers | Stone | entire stage | |
Iron | metal plates | ||
Mushroom Kingdom (SSB) | Stone | brick platform | |
Iron | main platforms, soft platforms, Warp Pipes | ||
Mushroom Kingdom II | Dirt | grass, Birdo, Pidgit's carpet | |
Wood | bridge, logs | ||
Mushroom Kingdom U | Dirt | Acorn Plains, Meringue Clouds, Slide Lift Tower, Stretch Blocks, giant icicle, horizontally-moving platforms, water geysers, beanstalk leaves and branches | |
Stone | Acorn Plains, Meringue Clouds, Rock-Candy Mines | ||
Mushroomy Kingdom | Stone | ground, bricks, "?" Blocks, stairs | |
Iron | Warp Pipes | ||
Mute City SNES | Iron | entire stage | |
New Donk City Hall | Stone | ground level, building | |
Iron | scaffolding, transitioning platform, floating platforms | ||
New Pork City | Wood | breakable platform | |
Stone | solid platforms, soft platforms, pendulum platform | ||
Iron | limousine | ||
Norfair | Iron | entire stage | |
Onett | Dirt | grass, tree, awnings, festoon | |
Wood | houses | ||
Stone | road, chimney | ||
Pac-Land | Dirt | solid ground, cactuses, clouds | |
Stone | rooftops, brick steps, rocks | ||
Wood | tree trunks, bridges | ||
Iron | fire hydrants | ||
Palutena's Temple | Dirt | shallow water, grass, trees, clouds | |
Wood | bridge | ||
Stone | temple, rocks, mini stage, rising platform | ||
Iron | spike-studded platform | ||
Paper Mario | Wood | entire stage | |
Peach's Castle | Dirt | main platform | |
Wood | soft platform | ||
Stone | ?}} | ||
Iron | slanted platforms | ||
PictoChat 2 | Dirt | entire stage | |
Pilotwings | Iron | entire stage | |
Pirate Ship | Wood | ship, King of Red Lions | |
Stone | rock island | ||
Iron | catapult | ||
Pokemon Stadium | Dirt | Grass Version, Water Version, Fire Version | |
Wood | Grass Version, Water Version, Fire Version | ||
Stone | Basic Version, Rock Version | ||
Iron | Water Version, Rock Version, Fire Version | ||
Pokemon Stadium 2 | Dirt | Ground Version, Ice Version | |
Stone | Basic Version, Electric Version | ||
Iron | Ground Version, Flying Version, Electric Version | ||
Port Town Aero Dive | Iron | entire stage | |
Princess Peach's Castle | Stone | castle, red/blue/green soft platforms, "!" Blocks | |
Iron | circular soft platforms | ||
Prism Tower | Stone | street | |
Iron | advancing platform, soft platforms, tower | ||
Rainbow Cruise | Dirt | obstacle course | |
Wood | ship, obstacle course | ||
Stone | ship, obstacle course | ||
Iron | ship, obstacle course | ||
Reset Bomb Forest | Dirt | ground | |
Wood | castle ruins, forest | ||
Stone | castle ruins, forest | ||
Saffron City | Stone | main platforms | |
Iron | floating platforms | ||
Shadow Moses Island | Stone | bottom secton of destroyed watchtower, crater of completely destroyed watchtower | |
Iron | ground, soft platforms, watchtowers | ||
Skyloft | Dirt | moving platforms, front of bazaar carpet, floating island, windmill, fortune-teller's house, front of Statue of the Goddess | |
Wood | Knight Academy roof, base of the Light Tower, floating island, windmill, fortune-teller's house | ||
Stone | base of the Light Tower, front of bazaar, top of the Light Tower, floating island, Statue of the Goddess, front of Statue of the Goddess | ||
Skyworld | Wool | clouds | |
Stone | stone platforms | ||
Small Battlefield | Neutral | entire stage | |
Spear Pillar | Stone | entire stage | |
Spiral Mountain | Dirt | grass | |
Wood | soft platforms, bridge | ||
Stone | sides of Spiral Mountain | ||
Spirit Train | Dirt | Coal Carriage | |
Wood | Spirit Train, middle carriage, Basic Carriage, Broken Carriage, Multi-platform Carriage, House Carriage, floating platforms | ||
Stone | House Carriage | ||
Iron | Spirit Train, Armored Train, Dark Train | ||
Spring Stadium | Dirt | main platform | |
Iron | trampolines | ||
Summit | Ice | entire stage | |
Super Happy Tree | Wool | clouds | |
Wood | main stage, soft platforms | ||
Super Mario Maker | Dirt | temporary platforms, main stage, soft platforms, railed platforms, mushrooms, ice blocks, Donut Blocks, Brick Blocks, ? Blocks | |
Wood | bridges | ||
Stone | unbreakable blocks, lava | *can only mine lava when invincible | |
Iron | conveyor belt | ||
Suzaku Castle | Wood | entire stage | |
Temple | Stone | entire stage | |
The Great Cave Offensive | Dirt | grass, striped platforms | |
Wood | rails | ||
Stone | checkered platforms, crystal area, Danger Zones | *despite being a Stone type terrain, Steve uses the shovel on Danger Zones | |
Iron | minecart | ||
Tomodachi Life | Stone | entire stage | |
Tortimer Island | Sand | ground, trees | |
Wood | boardwalk, boat | ||
Town and City | Wood | entire stage | |
Training (stage) | Dirt | entire stage | |
Umbra Clock Tower | Stone | entire stage | |
Unova Pokemon League | Stone | entire stage | |
Iron | stairs | ||
Venom | Iron | entire stage | |
WarioWare, Inc. | Dirt | entire stage | |
Wii Fit Studio | Dirt | entire stage | |
Wily Castle | Iron | entire stage | |
Windy Hill Zone | Dirt | main stage | |
Wood | windmill | ||
Wrecking Crew | Iron | entire stage | |
Wuhu Island | Dirt | advancing platform, Frisbee Dog Park, Wishing Fountain, Swordplay Colosseum, boating gate | |
Wood | Swaying Bridge, boat, Maka Wuhu | ||
Stone | Wishing Fountain, rocks at sea, Maka Wuhu, Talon Rock | ||
Iron | boat, Maka Wuhu, boating gate | ||
Yggdrasil's Altar | Dirt | shallow water | |
Stone | main platform, soft platforms, side platforms | ||
Yoshi's Island (SSBB) | Dirt | entire stage | |
Yoshi's Island (SSBM) | Dirt | grass, hill | |
Stone | Rotating Blocks | ||
Iron | Warp Pipes | ||
Yoshi's Story | Wool | soft platforms, Randall | |
Wood | main platform | ||
Stage Builder elements | |||
Grass terrain | Dirt | ||
Dirt terrain | |||
Sand terrain | |||
Rubber terrain | |||
Denim terrain | |||
Carpet terrain | |||
Yarn terrain | |||
Sponge terrain | |||
Bouncy Rubber terrain | |||
Ice terrain | |||
Wood terrain | Wood | ||
Paper terrain | |||
Marble terrain | Stone | ||
Lava terrain | |||
Steel terrain | Iron | ||
Bomb Block | Dirt | ||
Explosive Block | |||
By item | |||
Rolling Crate | Wood/Iron | ||
By Pokémon | |||
Alolan Exeggutor | Dirt | ||
Gogoat | |||
Other | |||
Fire Hydrant | Iron | *if on a Neutral-type stage, acts as a Neutral-type surface | |
TNT | |||
Anvil |
This is all the data I compiled from the different stages and surfaces. Apologies if it looks a little off. Thecontributor22 (talk) 19:06, October 17, 2020 (EDT)
- Intense. You even got the player-made deployables, and on different stages. Maybe make the whole thing a template, so it's easier to place somewhere else? Blackbrass (talk) 08:03, October 18, 2020 (EDT)
- I made some edits to the table. Instead of putting down Dirt/Sand/Ice/Wool, I put down "Class 1". When Sakurai was demonstrating Steve, he said the weakest materials would be called Class 1 materials, so I thought that it would be more appropriate. Plus, when the table is moved to a page (not sure if it should be on its own page, or one of the other ones), it can be stated that the Class 1 materials differ by stage.
I posted on this page that Meshima did some in-depth testing of mining resource order and included the link. Also, I am not aware of how to turn the table above into a template.
One last thing: I won't be able to do this myself because I have an emergency that will take me a few days to resolve. If someone could take over, then I would really appreciate it. Thecontributor22 (talk) 16:47, October 19, 2020 (EDT)
- I attempted to put this on the page, but couldn't. I changed all instances of "Class 1" materials to their actual appearance, as even though it is only aesthetic, it is still notable. 72.219.72.215 18:01, October 19, 2020 (EDT)
- What exactly was the issue in integrating the table? Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 19:13, October 19, 2020 (EDT)
- I copied the table from this talk page to the main page, and I ended up with an error message saying "Sorry, something went wrong. Please try again at a later date." 72.219.72.215 13:56, October 20, 2020 (EDT)
- I think that's why someone suggested to turn it into a template; I can take care of that for you. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 14:50, October 20, 2020 (EDT)
- I copied the table from this talk page to the main page, and I ended up with an error message saying "Sorry, something went wrong. Please try again at a later date." 72.219.72.215 13:56, October 20, 2020 (EDT)
- What exactly was the issue in integrating the table? Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 19:13, October 19, 2020 (EDT)
Translations[edit]
The word "生成" can be translated as "create" in many contexts:
Japanese has a different word order than English that needs to be translated, which would make "ブロック生成", "Create Block".
The Japanese words are all in the same form, nouns that can be made into verbs (and sometimes used as if they were) using "-する", so I've changed the English to all be consistant. For example "mine" and "craft", and "mining" and "crafting".
But this brings another problem on this wiki, the translations and how they're done is inconsistent.
On pages like this one, Marth_(SSBU), Peach Parasol, Ness_(SSBU) and probably a billion others there are translations where they're the exact same and probably unnecessary.
On some pages like Gale Stab and some others, no translation is given as it's the exact same.
On some like Wonderwing, Plasma Scream and some others, there are "Names in other languages" boxes.
On some pages like Diddy Kong and some others, there is a translation after his name and a "Names in other languages" box.
And some pages like Super_Smash_Bros._4 and some others, there is no translation at all.
Maybe we should make it so there are only "And on some like Wonderwing, Plasma Scream and some others, there are "Names in other languages" boxes like the Mario Wiki so we can put more detail and maybe an explanation behind the translations and translations for other languages.
An example where a "Names in other languages" box's explanation is better than a translation line would be Mario Wiki Piranha Plant and Smash Wiki Piranha Plant ChokalZeime (talk) 01:39, October 16, 2020 (EDT)
- The wiki is already inconsistent with its integration of the tables. It's my understanding that the tables are to be used wiki-wide, but there are plenty of pages that don't use them (because they haven't been implemented). I was never the biggest fan of the table, though I find it to be a force of habit to have the Japanese next to the English (rather than a direct rebellion), and as the one who made this page, I can only apologize for that.
- More to the point, however, while it isn't the most reliable source, 生成 was translated by Google Translate as "generate", which, while a bit lengthy, still conveys the same meaning that "Create Block" does, if you ask me. Though I absolutely do not speak Japanese, so I can't exactly say much on this. Aidan, the Spooky Rurouni 19:13, October 19, 2020 (EDT)