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*Possessing one or more "[[caves of life]]," allowing characters to survive much longer than feasibly possible under usual circumstances, and creating a general over-centralisation on the ability to [[tech]].
*Possessing one or more "[[caves of life]]," allowing characters to survive much longer than feasibly possible under usual circumstances, and creating a general over-centralisation on the ability to [[tech]].
*Possessing permanent walk-off [[blast line]]s and walls; the former creates unreasonably powerful camping positions and allows for potential easy [[zero-death]]s that wouldn't occur normally, as well as marginalizing or completely eliminating offstage play (nullifying the value of a good recovery), while the latter also creates powerful camping positions and allow for zero-death or otherwise heavily damaging combos that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Walk-offs and walls that occur only temporarily on a stage are considered detrimental, but acceptable enough to usually not result in a stage's banning by themselves.
*Possessing permanent walk-off [[blast line]]s and walls; the former creates unreasonably powerful camping positions and allows for potential easy [[zero-death]]s that wouldn't occur normally, as well as marginalizing or completely eliminating offstage play (nullifying the value of a good recovery), while the latter also creates powerful camping positions and allow for zero-death or otherwise heavily damaging combos that wouldn't be possible otherwise. Walk-offs and walls that occur only temporarily on a stage are considered detrimental, but acceptable enough to usually not result in a stage's banning by themselves.
*Drastically altering gameplay and the strategies needed to win (such as [[Icicle Mountain]] and [[Mario Bros.]]).
*Drastically altering gameplay and the strategies needed to win (such as [[Icicle Mountain]] and [[Mario Bros. (stage)|Mario Bros.]]).
*Possessing elements that causes the stage to be too strenuous on the system's CPU and thus being capable of reducing the game's frame rate mid-match (such as [[Fountain of Dreams]] in ''Melee'' doubles play).
*Possessing elements that causes the stage to be too strenuous on the system's CPU and thus being capable of reducing the game's frame rate mid-match (such as [[Fountain of Dreams]] in ''Melee'' doubles play).


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==Stage legality in ''[[Smash 64]]''==
==Stage legality in ''[[Smash 64]]''==
The following is ''Smash 64's'' banlist for stages in tournaments. Until mid-2015, four stages — [[Dream Land]], [[Hyrule Castle]], [[Congo Jungle]], and [[Peach's Castle]] — were legal. Currently, [[Dream Land]] is the only stage that can be used in tournaments. However, with tournaments switching from the vanilla version of the game to the [[19XX]] mod, in some tournaments like {{Trn|GENESIS 5}} or {{Trn|GENESIS 6}}, the stages [[Duel Zone]] and {{SSB|Final Destination}}, which weren't available without hacking, have seen some tournament presence in doubles, though this is generally rare.  
The following is ''Smash 64's'' banlist for stages in tournaments. Until mid-2015, four stages — {{SSB|Dream Land}}, [[Hyrule Castle]], {{SSB|Congo Jungle}}, and [[Peach's Castle]] — were legal. Currently, [[Dream Land]] is the only stage that can be used in tournaments. However, with tournaments switching from the vanilla version of the game to the [[19XX]] mod, in some tournaments like {{Trn|GENESIS 5}} or {{Trn|GENESIS 6}}, the stages [[Duel Zone]] and {{SSB|Final Destination}}, which weren't available without hacking, have seen some tournament presence in doubles, though this is generally rare.  


More recently, [[Smash Remix]] has allowed for certain hacked stages in tournaments, such as Zebes Landing (a version of Dream Land without wind), and even stages with a different layout, like 64 versions of [[Smashville]], [[Yoshi's Story]], [[Pokémon Stadium]] and others.
More recently, [[Smash Remix]] has allowed for certain hacked stages in tournaments, such as Zebes Landing (a version of Dream Land without wind), and even stages with a different layout, like 64 versions of [[Smashville]], [[Yoshi's Story]], [[Pokémon Stadium]] and others.
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! Commonly cited reasons for status
! Commonly cited reasons for status
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| [[Dream Land]]
| {{SSB|Dream Land}}
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
| A modified version of this stage without [[hazard]]s (the wind) or alternative versions in [[Smash Remix]] such as Zebes Landing is sometimes used as an alternative.
| A modified version of this stage without [[hazard]]s (the wind) or alternative versions in [[Smash Remix]] such as Zebes Landing is sometimes used as an alternative.
|-
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| [[Congo Jungle]]
| {{SSB|Congo Jungle}}
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired starter<ref name="Apex 2015 Ruleset"/>
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired starter<ref name="Apex 2015 Ruleset"/>
| style="background:#ffefbf" | Infrequently legal<ref name="Apex 2015 Ruleset"/><ref name="GENESIS 6 Ruleset"/><ref name="Smash'N'Splash 5 Ruleset">[[Tournament:Smash 'N' Splash 5#Stages|Smash 'N' Splash 5]]</ref>
| style="background:#ffefbf" | Infrequently legal<ref name="Apex 2015 Ruleset"/><ref name="GENESIS 6 Ruleset"/><ref name="Smash'N'Splash 5 Ruleset">[[Tournament:Smash 'N' Splash 5#Stages|Smash 'N' Splash 5]]</ref>
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| Overly large; excessive camping/stalling behind the big fin; fin allows for wall infinites; random, powerful stage hazards in Arwing lasers; several positions from which characters cannot recover which they can easily be forced into, especially by characters with good aerial games; overall gives unfair advantages to fast characters on the stage and aerial-based characters off of it
| Overly large; excessive camping/stalling behind the big fin; fin allows for wall infinites; random, powerful stage hazards in Arwing lasers; several positions from which characters cannot recover which they can easily be forced into, especially by characters with good aerial games; overall gives unfair advantages to fast characters on the stage and aerial-based characters off of it
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| [[Dream Land]]
| [[Dream Land N64]]
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
| style="background:#dfffbf" | Starter
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| Overly powerful stage hazard in Klap Trap; unusually high ceiling gives a disproportional advantage to horizontal finishers; high potential for camping and stalling; very poor matchup balance, giving a disproportionate advantage to characters with projectiles and those that can traverse the stage well
| Overly powerful stage hazard in Klap Trap; unusually high ceiling gives a disproportional advantage to horizontal finishers; high potential for camping and stalling; very poor matchup balance, giving a disproportionate advantage to characters with projectiles and those that can traverse the stage well
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| [[Kongo Falls|Kongo Jungle]]
| {{SSBM|Kongo Jungle}}
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| Powerful camping position on the rock platform on the bottom right of the stage; [[Klaptrap|Klap Trap]] too powerful and difficult to avoid when it enters the Barrel Cannon
| Powerful camping position on the rock platform on the bottom right of the stage; [[Klaptrap|Klap Trap]] too powerful and difficult to avoid when it enters the Barrel Cannon
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| [[Kongo Jungle|Kongo Jungle N64]]
| [[Congo Jungle|Kongo Jungle N64]]
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick
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| Walk-off blast lines; stage is too small; random, disruptive [[stage hazard]] in [[Birdo]]; lack of proper "center" platform hinders gameplay, particularly in doubles
| Walk-off blast lines; stage is too small; random, disruptive [[stage hazard]] in [[Birdo]]; lack of proper "center" platform hinders gameplay, particularly in doubles
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|-
| [[Mute City]]
| {{SSBM|Mute City}}
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick
| style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
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In the past, the following stages have been legal counterpicks, but are now banned:
In the past, the following stages have been legal counterpicks, but are now banned:
*[[Big Blue]], [[Brinstar]], [[Corneria]], [[Green Greens]], [[Jungle Japes]], [[Kongo Falls|Kongo Jungle]], [[Kongo Jungle|Kongo Jungle (N64)]], {{SSBM|Mushroom Kingdom}}, [[Mushroom Kingdom II]], [[Mute City]], [[Onett]], [[Poké Floats]], [[Princess Peach's Castle]], [[Rainbow Cruise]], {{SSBM|Yoshi's Island}}
*[[Big Blue]], [[Brinstar]], [[Corneria]], [[Green Greens]], [[Jungle Japes]], {{SSBM|Kongo Jungle}}, [[Congo Jungle|Kongo Jungle (N64)]], {{SSBM|Mushroom Kingdom}}, [[Mushroom Kingdom II]], {{SSBM|Mute City}}, [[Onett]], [[Poké Floats]], [[Princess Peach's Castle]], [[Rainbow Cruise]], {{SSBM|Yoshi's Island}}
The following stages have never been legal in competitive ''Melee'' history:
The following stages have never been legal in competitive ''Melee'' history:
*[[Brinstar Depths]], [[Flat Zone]], [[Fourside]], [[Great Bay]], [[Icicle Mountain]], [[Temple]], [[Venom]], [[Yoshi's Island (SSB)|Yoshi's Island (N64)]]
*[[Brinstar Depths]], [[Flat Zone]], [[Fourside]], [[Great Bay]], [[Icicle Mountain]], [[Temple]], [[Venom]], [[Yoshi's Island (SSB)|Yoshi's Island (N64)]]
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| Slants at the ledges; tilting can unfairly mess up recoveries
| Slants at the ledges; tilting can unfairly mess up recoveries
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| [[Mario Bros.]]
| [[Mario Bros. (stage)|Mario Bros.]]
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| [[Gameplay]] is vastly altered by stage [[enemies]]; overly powerful stage hazards; impassable platforms create caves of life; walk-off blast lines; no lower blast line
| [[Gameplay]] is vastly altered by stage [[enemies]]; overly powerful stage hazards; impassable platforms create caves of life; walk-off blast lines; no lower blast line
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| [[Figure-8 Circuit|Mario Circuit]]
| {{SSBB|Mario Circuit}}
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned
| High potential for camping/stalling; walk-off blast lines; frequent stage hazard in karts that often disrupt gameplay; no lower blast line
| High potential for camping/stalling; walk-off blast lines; frequent stage hazard in karts that often disrupt gameplay; no lower blast line
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| Stage design from WarioWare, Inc. without transformations. Textures usually changed to a Wario Land theme. Too small for doubles.
| Stage design from WarioWare, Inc. without transformations. Textures usually changed to a Wario Land theme. Too small for doubles.
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|-
| [[Dream Land]]
| [[Dream Land (64)]]
| style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick
| style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick
| style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick
| style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick
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| [[Brinstar]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Lava stage hazard is too powerful, especially against fast-fallers; stage creates significant reliance on aerial games, punishing characters that need to stay on the ground; irregular, disruptive design that can frequently change
| [[Brinstar]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Lava stage hazard is too powerful, especially against fast-fallers; stage creates significant reliance on aerial games, punishing characters that need to stay on the ground; irregular, disruptive design that can frequently change
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| [[Dream Land GB|Dream Land]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Scrolling overcentralizes gameplay on keeping up with the stage, giving a strong benefit to characters with good mobility; frequent walk-off blast lines; lower blast line is frequently absent
| [[Dream_Land_(SSB4)|Dream Land]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Scrolling overcentralizes gameplay on keeping up with the stage, giving a strong benefit to characters with good mobility; frequent walk-off blast lines; lower blast line is frequently absent
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| [[Dream Land (64)]] || style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick || Wind can alter gameplay; the top platform is closer to the ceiling than battlefield; thus sligtly favoring characters with vertical finishers
| [[Dream Land (64)]] || style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick || Wind can alter gameplay; the top platform is closer to the ceiling than battlefield; thus sligtly favoring characters with vertical finishers
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| [[Prism Tower]] || style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick || Some transformations feature walk-off blast lines.
| [[Prism Tower]] || style="background:#ffffbf" | Counterpick || Some transformations feature walk-off blast lines.
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| [[Mute City SNES|Mute City]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Lack of bottom blast line; road is too powerful a stage hazard; potentially random placement of F-Zero racers; provides significant advantage to characters with good aerial mobility
| [[Mute City]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Lack of bottom blast line; road is too powerful a stage hazard; potentially random placement of F-Zero racers; provides significant advantage to characters with good aerial mobility
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| [[Magicant]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Flying Men are too powerful a stage hazard and overcentralize gameplay on camping on the rightmost platform.
| [[Magicant]] || style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Flying Men are too powerful a stage hazard and overcentralize gameplay on camping on the rightmost platform.
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|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Stage has constant walk-off blast lines and lacks a lower blast line; unusual curvature and gravity of the stage can also impact gameplay physics
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Stage has constant walk-off blast lines and lacks a lower blast line; unusual curvature and gravity of the stage can also impact gameplay physics
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|[[Mario Circuit]]
|{{SSB4|Mario Circuit}}
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Some transformations of the stage can block off blast lines; Shy Guy racers too powerful a stage hazard
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Some transformations of the stage can block off blast lines; Shy Guy racers too powerful a stage hazard
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|style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick || Stage transformations can have walk-off blast lines or no lower blast line; some potentially powerful camping spots; strongly benefits characters with good air mobility
|style="background:#ffdfbf" | Retired counterpick || Stage transformations can have walk-off blast lines or no lower blast line; some potentially powerful camping spots; strongly benefits characters with good air mobility
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|[[Figure-8 Circuit|Mario Circuit (Brawl)]]
|[[Mario Circuit (SSBB)|Mario Circuit (Brawl)]]
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Stage has constant walk-off blast lines and lacks a lower blast line; Shy Guy racers too powerful and disruptive a stage hazard
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned || Stage has constant walk-off blast lines and lacks a lower blast line; Shy Guy racers too powerful and disruptive a stage hazard
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|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Disruptive geometry; offstage triangles and walls can block K.Os and promote camping.
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Disruptive geometry; offstage triangles and walls can block K.Os and promote camping.
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|-
|[[Kongo Jungle]]
|{{SSB|Kongo Jungle}}
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Too large; high ceiling; platform layout promotes stalling and circle camping.
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Too large; high ceiling; platform layout promotes stalling and circle camping.
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|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Clouds off right side of the stage highly favor camping; right blast zone is extremely far away from the main body of the stage.
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Clouds off right side of the stage highly favor camping; right blast zone is extremely far away from the main body of the stage.
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|[[Dream Land]]
|{{SSB|Dream Land}}
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Too similar to Battlefield, omitted from most rulesets to reduce redundancy.
|style="background:#ffbfbf" | Banned  || Too similar to Battlefield, omitted from most rulesets to reduce redundancy.
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