Editing Rosalina & Luma (SSBU)

From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. wiki
Jump to navigationJump to search
Warning You aren't logged in. While it's not a requirement to create an account, doing so makes it a lot easier to keep track of your edits and a lot harder to confuse you with someone else. If you edit without being logged in, your IP address will be recorded in the page's edit history.

The edit can be undone. Please check the comparison below to verify that this is what you want to do, and then publish the changes below to finish undoing the edit.

Latest revision Your text
Line 172: Line 172:
|grabdesc=Rosalina grabs her opponent telekinetically.
|grabdesc=Rosalina grabs her opponent telekinetically.
|pummelname=Grab Wand Slap ({{ja|つかみワンドスラップ|Tsukami Wando Surappu}})
|pummelname=Grab Wand Slap ({{ja|つかみワンドスラップ|Tsukami Wando Surappu}})
|pummeldmg=1.3%
|pummeldmg=1.2%
|pummeldesc=Rosalina smacks the opponent with her wand. Average power and speed.
|pummeldesc=Rosalina smacks the opponent with her wand.
|fthrowname=Magical Toss ({{ja|マジカルトス|Majikaru Tosu}})
|fthrowname=Magical Toss ({{ja|マジカルトス|Majikaru Tosu}})
|fthrowdmg=9%
|fthrowdmg=9%
Line 323: Line 323:
''See also: [[:Category:Rosalina & Luma players (SSBU)]]''
''See also: [[:Category:Rosalina & Luma players (SSBU)]]''


*{{Sm|Dabuz|United States}} - The best Rosalina & Luma player of all-time who was a top 10 player from 2019 to mid-2022. He won the superregionals {{Trn|CEO 2023}} and {{Trn|Low Tide City 2024}}, however he is aso infamous for being the runner-up at many majors, including {{Trn|Albion 4}}, {{Trn|Low Tide City 2021}}, and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2023}}.  
*{{Sm|Dabuz|United States}} - The best Rosalina & Luma player of all-time, playing the character alongside {{SSBU|Olimar}}, and a top 10 player from 2019 to mid-2022. He won the superregional {{Trn|CEO 2023}} and has placed 2nd at multiple majors and supermajors with the character, including {{Trn|Albion 4}}, {{Trn|Low Tide City 2021}}, and {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2023}}.
*{{Sm|Homika|France}} - The best Rosalina & Luma player in Europe from 2019 to mid-2023 and was a top 10 player in Europe in the game's first year, having placed 5th at {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}} and 9th at both {{Trn|Syndicate 2019}} and {{Trn|VCA 2019}} during that time.
*{{Sm|Homika|France}} - The best Rosalina & Luma player in Europe and a top 10 player in Europe in 2019. He has placed highly at several European majors, including 5th at the major {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2019}} and 9th at the majors {{Trn|Syndicate 2019}} and {{Trn|Ultimate Fighting Arena 2022}}. He was also ranked as high as 65th on the [[OrionRank Ultimate: Eclipse]].
*{{Sm|Kirihara|Japan}} - The second-best Rosalina & Luma player of all-time, ranking 48th on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]]. He is best known for winning {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 1}}, the first superregional-level victory for a Rosalina & Luma player, and placing 4th at the major {{Trn|Umebura SP 5}}. He has since switched to {{SSBU|Sheik}}.
*{{Sm|Kirihara|Japan}} - The best Rosalina & Luma player in Japan in the early metagame and the second Rosalima & Luma player ever ranked in the top 50, ranking 48th on the [[Fall 2019 PGRU]]. His best results with the character include winning the superregional {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 1}} and placing 4th at the major {{Trn|Umebura SP 5}}. He has since switched to {{SSBU|Sheik}}.
*{{Sm|yuzu|Japan}} - The best Rosalina & Luma player in Japan since 2021, having placed highly at several Japanese events including 2nd at {{Trn|WAVE CHAMPIONS 1}} and 7th at {{Trn|Seibugeki 12}}.
*{{Sm|yuzu|Japan}} - The best Rosalina & Luma player in Japan since 2021, having placed highly at several Japanese events including 2nd at the superregional {{Trn|WAVE CHAMPIONS 1}} and 7th at the major {{Trn|Seibugeki 12}}.


===Tier placement and history===
===Tier placement and history===
Upon ''Ultimate''{{'}}s release, players immediately noticed the nerfs to Luma's attacks and endurance that severely hampered Rosalina's ability to stop approaches, edge trap, and zone her opponents as effectively as in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''. Additionally, swordfighters were prevalent in the early metagame, which made Luma very vulnerable to being outranged. Despite {{SSBU|Meta Knight}} and {{SSBU|Cloud}} (their worst matchups in ''SSB4'') being nerfed noticeably in ''Ultimate'', some professionals claimed that Rosalina & Luma's nerfs were too harsh for them to even be mid tier fighters. As a result, they had little representation in the early metagame; this was further compounded by their best player, {{Sm|Dabuz}}, dropping them in favor of {{SSBU|Olimar}} as his sole main character.
Upon ''Ultimate''{{'}}s release, players immediately noticed the nerfs to Luma's attacks and endurance that severely hampered Rosalina's ability to stop approaches, edge trap, and zone her opponents as effectively as in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''. Additionally, swordfighters were prevalent in the early metagame, which made Luma very vulnerable to being outranged. Despite {{SSBU|Meta Knight}} and {{SSBU|Cloud}} (their worst matchups in ''SSB4'') being nerfed noticeably in ''Ultimate'', some professionals claimed that Rosalina & Luma's nerfs were too harsh for them to even be mid tier fighters. As a result, they had little representation in the early metagame; this was further compounded by their best player, {{Sm|Dabuz}}, dropping them in favor of {{SSBU|Olimar}} as his sole main character.


Rosalina & Luma received significant buffs via updates 2.0.0 and 3.1.0 that negated some of their severe nerfs, especially to their range, power and frame data. As a result, Dabuz once again picked up Rosalina & Luma, albeit initially as a co-main alongside Olimar, while other players, such as {{Sm|Kirihara}} and {{Sm|Homika}}, started to achieve better results. Although Rosalina & Luma are still agreed to be among the most nerfed [[veteran]]s, their perception has significantly improved since ''Ultimate''{{'}}s initial release; most professionals now consider them to be upper mid-tier character, with Dabuz in particular viewing them as top tier fighters. Although Kirihara eventually dropped Rosalina in the post-online metagame, the character remained a rather strong, albeit uncommon, pick in the metagame, and as such they were ranked 48th on the first tier list as an upper-mid tier.
However, Rosalina & Luma would receive significant buffs via updates 2.0.0 and 3.1.0 that negated some of their severe nerfs, especially to their range, power and frame data. As a result, Dabuz once again picked up Rosalina & Luma—albeit as a co-main alongside Olimar—while other players, such as {{Sm|Kirihara}} and {{Sm|Homika}}, started to achieve better results. Although Rosalina & Luma are still agreed to be among the most nerfed [[veteran]]s, their perception has significantly improved since ''Ultimate''{{'}}s initial release; most professionals now consider them to be upper mid tier or high tier fighters, with Dabuz in particular viewing them as top tier fighters. Regardless, they are ranked 48th on the first tier list, then rose to 43rd on the second and current tier list.
 
Following the first list, Rosalina & Luma's representation remained rather consistent: although old mains such as Homika and {{Sm|yuzu}} became less consistent as time went on, newer Rosalina & Luma players began stepping in the limelight, including {{Sm|M.Pop0}}, {{Sm|SOLO}}, and {{Sm|YamaD}}. In addition, although Dabuz's results took a noticeable slip in 2023, he also saw some of his best results of his entire ''Ultimate'' career, including winning {{Trn|CEO 2023}}, his first superregional win for a Rosalina & Luma player since 2020, and placing 2nd at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2023}}. These results allowed Rosalina & Luma to rise slightly on the second tier list, ranking 43rd in the B- tier.


=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: One Star after Another==
=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: One Star after Another==
Line 350: Line 348:
|4||{{CharHead|Ridley|SSBU|hsize=20px}}||[[Brinstar Depths]]||''{{SSBUMusicLink|Metroid|Brinstar Depths (Melee)}}''||
|4||{{CharHead|Ridley|SSBU|hsize=20px}}||[[Brinstar Depths]]||''{{SSBUMusicLink|Metroid|Brinstar Depths (Melee)}}''||
|-
|-
|5||{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Yellow}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Blue}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Green}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=White}} {{SSBU|Kirby}} (×6)||[[Dream Land]]||''{{SSBUMusicLink|Kirby|Green Greens (for 3DS / Wii U)}}''||Horde Battle.<br>The Kirbys could also be a possible reference to the Lumas themselves.
|5||{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Yellow}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Blue}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Red}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=Green}}{{Head|Kirby|g=SSBU|s=20px|cl=White}} {{SSBU|Kirby}} (×6)||{{SSB|Dream Land}}||''{{SSBUMusicLink|Kirby|Green Greens (for 3DS / Wii U)}}''||Horde Battle.<br>The Kirbys could also be a possible reference to the Lumas themselves.
|-
|-
|6||{{CharHead|Bowser|SSBU|hsize=20px}}||[[Mario Galaxy]]||''{{SSBUMusicLink|Super Mario Bros.|Fated Battle}}''||{{CharHead|Mario|SSBU|hsize=20px}} appears as a teammate. Items do not appear.
|6||{{CharHead|Bowser|SSBU|hsize=20px}}||[[Mario Galaxy]]||''{{SSBUMusicLink|Super Mario Bros.|Fated Battle}}''||{{CharHead|Mario|SSBU|hsize=20px}} appears as a teammate. Items do not appear.
Line 368: Line 366:
During the opening cutscene, Rosalina & Luma were present on the cliffside when [[Galeem]] unleashed his beams of light. They attempted to fly away alongside {{SSBU|Diddy Kong}}, but both of them were hit by a light beam, vaporized, and placed under Galeem's imprisonment along with the other fighters, excluding {{SSBU|Kirby}}.
During the opening cutscene, Rosalina & Luma were present on the cliffside when [[Galeem]] unleashed his beams of light. They attempted to fly away alongside {{SSBU|Diddy Kong}}, but both of them were hit by a light beam, vaporized, and placed under Galeem's imprisonment along with the other fighters, excluding {{SSBU|Kirby}}.


Rosalina & Luma were among the many fighters that fell under [[Dharkon]]'s control after Galeem was first defeated. When the north path of [[The Dark Realm]] splits into four, they can be found on the second path from left to right, where the spirit of [[List of spirits (Mega Man series)|MegaMan.EXE]] must be obtained before approaching them.
Rosalina & Luma were among the many fighters that fell under [[Dharkon]]'s control after Galeem was first defeated. They are found in [[The Dark Realm]] near the entrance of the [[Mysterious Dimension]] sub-area, where the spirit of [[List of spirits (Mega Man series)|MegaMan.EXE]] must be confronted before approaching them.
{{clrl}}
{{clrl}}


Line 597: Line 595:
*For unknown reasons, despite Luma's voice actor, Yuya Takezawa, being Japanese, his name is romanized in English in the Japanese version of Rosalina's Sound Test. This oddity was not present in ''Smash 4''.
*For unknown reasons, despite Luma's voice actor, Yuya Takezawa, being Japanese, his name is romanized in English in the Japanese version of Rosalina's Sound Test. This oddity was not present in ''Smash 4''.
*By complete coincidence, Rosalina & Luma have their placement on the first official [[tier list]] as the exact same number as their [[Fighter number]]; with their placement on the tier list being 48th out of 82 and their Fighter number being Fighter #48. They were the only fighters that had this distinction. However, Rosalina & Luma’s placement on the current tier list, being 43rd, no longer matches their fighter number.
*By complete coincidence, Rosalina & Luma have their placement on the first official [[tier list]] as the exact same number as their [[Fighter number]]; with their placement on the tier list being 48th out of 82 and their Fighter number being Fighter #48. They were the only fighters that had this distinction. However, Rosalina & Luma’s placement on the current tier list, being 43rd, no longer matches their fighter number.
*If the spirits in the collection are in numerical order, Rosalina and Luma is the first character to be in a spirit battle as the main opponent, which is [[Super Star]]; 20th spirit overall.


{{SSBUCharacters}}
{{SSBUCharacters}}

Please note that all contributions to SmashWiki are considered to be released under the Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license (see SmashWiki:Copyrights for details). Your changes will be visible immediately. Please enter a summary of your changes above.

Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!

Cancel Editing help (opens in new window)

Templates used on this page:

This page is a member of 1 meta category: