User talk:Luigi540

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Mega Tron1 XD

22:22, 3 February 2011 (EST)

Thanks. Luigi540 22:39, 3 February 2011 (EST)

Preview button

You got to use it.Mega Tron1 XD 10:34, 19 February 2011 (EST)

Hey

Nice work on your hard work. Be sure to look over the recent forum thread. Omega Tyrant 18:55, 23 March 2011 (EDT)

SW:1RV

Read it, and please don't violate it again. Don't revert a revert, bring it up on the talk page instead. DoctorPain99 14:52, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Ok. I won't violate it again. Luigi540 14:58, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

Also, I'm not sure you understood my edit summary. I was not denying what you said. Rather, it already mentions in that section that it makes the player harder to recover, thus implying "easier to gimp". Mr. Anon (talk) 15:19, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

I didn't understood your edit summary in 1st place. But, I understand what your saying after you undo my edits. Luigi540 15:25, 30 May 2011 (EDT)

You broke SW:1RV again by reverting Toomai's revert. You should take it to the talk page.--

PSIWolf (T • C • E) 16:39, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

Sorry to be nitpicky but...

Fix your grammar slighlty please. You've made a few minor mistakes. Forb idden 7 13:40, 13 July 2011 (EDT)

Seriously.--PSIWolf (T • C • E) 14:34, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

Ok. I know. Luigi540 14:37, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

For future reference, PSIWolf, please don't make posts like that. Dokteur Pain99 17:33, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

You know...

Instead of quitting because someone reverted you not trusting your testing, you could post on the talk page explaining how you tested, if video proof can not be provided. It's difficult to get the community to trust you when you have put up inaccurate numbers before, and never interact with them on the talk pages. Omega Tyrant 20:20, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

Ohh I see. Since I have nothing to say, I sometimes post on the talk page, unless if I had to explaining how I tested or something that I don't know. I'll keep contributing to Smash Wiki. Luigi540 (talk) 22:12, 1 October 2011 (EDT)

WiFight?

Hey. Do you wanna brawl? If so, meet me on the IRC. If you don't have an IRC client, use Special:WebChat. ToastUltimatum Complaints Box 10:17, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

No. I rarely play Brawl and currently I have other things to do other than editing. Luigi540

10:31, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

Brawl?

Prepare yourself. Mr. Anontalk 20:51, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Sorry, but my Wi-Fi connection is experiencing some problems causing it not to work. Thanks anyway. Luigi540 (talk) 21:24, 15 March 2012 (EDT)

Templates

What are templates, and how can I acess them?King KirbyD (talk) 22:05, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Did you read Help:Templates? Luigi540 (talk) 22:31, 20 March 2012 (EDT)

Nice Job

On the new article, you've sure learned a lot on how to make them. Toast ltimatum 18:11, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

Thanks. Luigi540 (talk) 18:19, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

WHEEW

I though Miles exterminated YOU, but it turns out there was a false Luigi540 around. Ganonmew (talk) 08:51, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

Umm, I never fall for this ever. Any user can tell when it is a impersonator account. Luigi540 (talk) 21:05, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

I fell for it. I have not seen false users before. Ganonmew (talk) 21:36, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm just waiting for a Serpent Queen to show up. Serpent King (talk) 22:07, 19 August 2015 (EDT)

Hello. I would like to apologize for stirring up the place.

You seem to be the user most annoyed by my recent antics on the wiki. I apologize for this: I've only been on here for little over a week, thus there is a lot I don't know about (such as PSIWolf's leaving, I deeply regret doing that). Even though I've been on here for old a week, I think it would be best if I leave. I hope this means a lot less trouble for you. Ganonmew (talk) 21:39, 22 August 2015 (EDT)

Uhh no. It's okay. You can still edit. My annoyance stems from people talking about the same subject (to Brian on admin noticeboard) and I got tired and frustrated by that and I understand why his behavior change. For PSIWolf, his behavior noticeably change and wanted to quit with personal attacks. Berrenta told him earlier before you do because of his edits. Next time I think you should of look at the talk page before you do new section unless one committed an recent today offense. Luigi540 (talk) 21:55, 22 August 2015 (EDT)

Thanks. I'll keep watch. Ganonmew (talk) 22:47, 22 August 2015 (EDT)

Hello. I would like to apologize for the Roy f-smash information.

I'd like to apologize (I'm relatively new here). After hearing all the griping about Roy's f-smash I decided to try it out and it looked absurdly fast for how strong it was. Still I agree 14 frames of start up isn't very fast. Also I din't notice that the speed was nerfed from Melee (although I have found that there is 2 frames less of end lag). Sorry about that.

It's okay. Much to my frustration, I was intending to debunk its false information about Roy's f-smash being fast, by bring up the frame data. I only consider it fast, if the start up is almost instantaneous or below frame 6. Luigi540 (talk) 17:08, 30 August 2015 (EDT)

This

Could you be a little less harsh in your edit summaries? They are rightful but no need to call someone a retard for something they were never told (like this one, this was an edit you fixed that I made, so technically you called me out in an unnecessarily harsh way for something I didn't know). Ganonmew (talk) 19:30, 12 September 2015 (EDT)

Well sorry.I'm not the only one that is hostile in wiki. Don't get me wrong, last recent edits seems to irritate me (ya know Brian's case and subjective case) to where I have to say something harsh. Now, I have some feeling and personal issues that is outside of wiki and that's why I ended up doing like that. Luigi540 (talk) 19:35, 12 September 2015 (EDT)

It's fine. Just try to refrain and don't go the route Leet Beefcake did. Ganonmew (talk) 19:50, 12 September 2015 (EDT)

About your edit summary...

Sorry if I came/start to come off as inflammatory, but...

Sheik was not the crux of my complaints, unlike others. That should not have been hard to notice.
You'd think by now that a character so popular would have the MU learned.
I'm not really complaining that there were not enough nerfs, rather, I was complaining that there were not enough buffs. Yeah the Bowser, Ganon, and Samus buffs were nice, but they did not help them in the right ways (and why Dark Dive is still the way it is is a mystery).
Marcina nerfs. I have a reason to be angry. They reduced Shield Breaker to nothing but a hard read now. No, it does not take advantage of the shieldstun changes because of its lag.

It's not like I'm calling people who think Sheik should not be nerfed Nazis; I'm just disappointed at how little the update did to improve the bad characters. Yeah the Luigi nerf was called for, but you'd think after all this time they would not be so sympathetic to Sheik (how hard is it to tak , who has dominated the metagame since even before Diddy got nerfed. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 06:31, 1 October 2015 (EDT)

Don't get the wrong idea. I didn't say anything about some characters, your reaction, and little the update did besides Sheik (yes, some characters should be buffed). What it pisses me off is that players wanted Sheik to be nerfed. She is like the hardest character to learn. Yes character so popular would have MU learned. MU changes time to time as metagame evolves. By that time, players will be able to deal with Sheik's needles and her game play. If the players don't know the mu and complain about Sheik and her Needles, then it's their problem. Luigi540 (talk) 01:28, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

It's all good. If anything, I want Sonic to be nerfed. The little runt... Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 15:58, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Donkey Kong (PM)

Why did you undo my edit on the Donkey Kong (PM) page? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 15:55, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

Sorry. Didn't realize it. That was my personal mistakes. Luigi540 (talk) 21:18, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

You didn't realize it was a Project M character page, correct? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 22:14, 2 October 2015 (EDT)

This is getting ridiculous.

I'm getting quite irritated of you inflating the severity of a mistake. Yeah INoMed shouldn't have done that, but it was entirely unnecessary to bring it to his talk page (except INoMed really shouldn't have done that and I'm not defending him). Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 17:06, 1 November 2015 (EST)

So you said you could explain...

Sheik and ZSS not being nerfed. I'm fine what it, but my bro isn't ( He hates both of them with a burning passion, especially ZSS.), so he wants an explanation. Penro, the and main. 22:32, 3 February 2016 (EST)

I never heard of any proof of them not being nerfed. I hope they are. -- Ethan

(Discussion) 22:33, 3 February 2016 (EST)

I hope that they stay the same. Someone so popular should have the matchup learned. Penro, the

and

main. 22:35, 3 February 2016 (EST)

Few weeks ago, I notice that there's a video posted about Smash 4, Sheik, and balancing.

There are three factors on balances that are made:

Free for all matches
1v1 matches
Character's role

In Free for all matches, this is one of the factor that they do not see any desirable buffs/nerfs on one character. Characters played in free for all, team up, or played with the items. So the team is far less likely to make an extensive changes to a character. Not every characters can excel in free for all environments. Sheik for instance lacks any hard hitting move that can cause high damage and knockback. She doesn't rack up too much damage in that situation and can have trouble killing; you are not gonna combo easily in free for all with items unless it is down to 1v1. Bowser has hard hitting attacks with heavy lag. His flaw makes it less competitive. In the free for all, that makes him have more advantage (distractions for instance). This is where Sakurai and his team looked at consistently.

Not the main focus for the 1v1 for Sakurai's team. Hard to judge and needs to be very very specific. Diddy Kong for instance is very dominating character that is easy to use prior before the patch; last year, an extreme outcry cause Sakurai to respond and nerf him. When Zero won with Diddy Kong at Chokaigi 2015, Diddy was nerfed more.

Character's role. Well this is the big one. Character's role is where character has attributes to fulfill their need. If it is not unique, it is rejected. For example, Mario is all rounded character. Sheik's role is being a very quick character that chains her attacks with low damage input. If you find the character's trailer for Sheik, you see they wanted Sheik to be more of combo orientated role. The wants for many people to nerf Sheik or ZSS is not gonna happen, because Sakurai believe that that would impact too much on character's role.

In my conclusion, many people failed to consider with the overall game and character (not to mention three factors on balance). Some people underestimate about difficulty on performing Sheik's combos and Zss's combos. They are not easy to perform. Sheik has a very high learning curve. You will need to show dedication to play very good. You won't be able to see very good Sheik players outside of Vinnie, ZeRo, Mr. R, VoiD, or other great Sheik players. ZSS is not easy either. Again, you won't be able to see great ZSS players outside of Nairo, Choco, Mars and other great ZSS players. I believe people need to learn how to deal with Needles, Vanish, and character's playstyle properly. If they don't and wanted it to be nerf, then it's their problem.

Also read the article about Sakurai's act of balencing characters. Luigi540 (talk) 23:25, 3 February 2016 (EST)

[1] Looks like they are changes to Sheik and ZSS. Sheik is likely nerfed as all patches before she was nerfed (where they where changes made to her), I doubt they'd buff ZSS also. People already studied the Sheik matchup but that isn't going to make her that much more balanced. -- Ethan

(Discussion) 00:22, 4 February 2016 (EST)

Ethan7: Not sure if it is true. I say we have to wait until data mining is finished. If it is, then it has to be something that is almost not relevant. Nairo mentioned that Sheik and Zss are untouched in the patches. Luigi540 (talk) 01:15, 4 February 2016 (EST)

Also if you can look at data mine. It appears that Sheik has a change in effect and Zero Suit Samus has a change in game. This could be irrelevant. I could be wrong, but I don't see change in attack data for Sheik and Zero Suit Samus. Luigi540 (talk) 01:25, 4 February 2016 (EST)

All that was discovered appears to be a weight loss by one point for all characters in S tier. -- Ethan

(Discussion) 12:16, 4 February 2016 (EST)

Neither a buff nor a nerf. As I mentioned on edit summary, it has to be determine by case by case. Not just survival; other factors. For instance, if something that has more advantage that outweights its disadvantage, then it's a buff and not a nerf. 13:39, 4 February 2016 (EST)

YOU LOOK LIKE HAMMERED SHIT