User talk:Miles of SmashWiki/Archive19

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Out of curiosity..

What happens when you hit 20 archives and your current talk page exceeds 32 KB? Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 20:09, 3 December 2015 (EST)

You explode. Serpent King 20:10, 3 December 2015 (EST)

Nah really though. At that point you'd have to make a custom archive box. Serpent King 20:11, 3 December 2015 (EST)

well actually I just took a look at {{archive box}} and there are no technical limits, not sure why the documentation says there are Serpent King 20:19, 3 December 2015 (EST)

1) That first comment confirmed you are probably the only admin with a sense of humor you can laugh because of. 2) Weird... Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 20:26, 3 December 2015 (EST)

I mean, I already have a custom archive box... Miles (talk) 20:55, 3 December 2015 (EST)

Oh...so you do. I can't believe I didn't notice that... Serpent King 20:59, 3 December 2015 (EST)

Yeah. I was just confused because I saw that there was a limit.

Changes from Brawl Entries

I recently received some complaints about me changing certain Changes From Brawl Entries. Here is an Example:

...but so far, your edits on character pages return edits to how they originally looked in the first place. Most notably Kirby's and Zelda's page. I'd like to tell you, I had wrote Kirby's page so it is similar to Diddy Kong's page in that he was significantly nerfed but now is slightly nerfed (which is the contrary with Diddy), but you undid my edit when the other one looked better. And while she can be considered to be nerfed, Zelda did gain some useful buffs that can counter her nerfs, and I consider the Phantom to be one of them. But that's not all. You have undone edits on her page several times, particularly her changes from Brawl, which risks you of violating this policy: it reads "Such revisions should be used only once." I'm just informing you so you don't get warned by an admin to stop. I do think you try to do a good job but your edits sometimes look bad. Try to let other users help you edit "accurate reports on characters", so that the wiki looks better. In the case of Zelda, we could consider she was nerfed but as she has gained useful buffs as well, she shouldn't really be considered nerfed. And in the case of Kirby, he is nerfed from transition, but only slightly nerfed when we take into account balance patches. Whaddya say? Would you like me to help? (keep in mind I'm backed up by popular opinion from the community). Again, I assume good faith, so no worries in my side. --BeepYou (talk) 13:25, 3 December 2015 (EST)

I'm fine with this, as nobody is perfect, and I do make mistakes. I also understand that SW:1RV and SW:AGF are to be respected as well. Be that as it may, I'd like to address something. As i'm sure you know, every now and again a user will change a section to fit their perception of how a certain character is. They will ignore facts and logic, and argue with anyone who disagrees. Specifically, when it comes to Zelda, a character who is considered by top players, local players, casual players, and mostly the vast majority of the fanbase to be one of the worst if not THE worst character in the game, i've seen users present her as better then the facts point her out to be. Even on the talk page for her, there have been numerous debates. She got some serious nerfs in the transition from Brawl (like no longer being able to transform) and her tournament results and representation are virtually nonexistent. I'm not saying that she's THE WORST personally, but she's pretty bad.

I was warned that an Admin might step in, but rather then cower, i'd like to get an Admin's feedback on what should be done. My goal is to have the wiki as accurate as possible, whether my personal opinions are right or wrong. I value this wiki more then I value myself. So what do you think? What's your opinion on the matter? Nightgengale (talk) 22:41, 4 December 2015 (EST)

I'm just trying to talk to you on a calm manner, like you said, "fanboyism be damned". I'm not a Zelda fanboy, not even less, but I'm just saying that Zelda feels better and easier to play due to her flaws becoming slightly smaller -though not perfectly addressed- and gaining noticeable buffs, but her nerfs are on par with her buffs, IIRC. And like I said, I'm backed up by the community. Knowing this is the most balanced roster, many can agree that she's better than in Brawl, but obviously she is still pretty bad, possibly the worst. But I've seen things that Zelda mains do that make me wonder.

I still assume good faith that you want to be accurate but you should also let others help you edit, and not take the whole credit. All the users on this wiki should get along when trying to edit. And I'm sure Miles would say the same about the above statement in this paragraph. --BeepYou (talk) 23:00, 4 December 2015 (EST)

Could I have talk page links here? I don't want to settle this with out of context quotes. Serpent King 23:04, 4 December 2015 (EST)

:v (the emoticon was necessary, sorry) --BeepYou (talk) 23:07, 4 December 2015 (EST)

Mmk let's take this to my talk page so we don't spam Miles. Serpent King 23:15, 4 December 2015 (EST)

This conversation continues here. Serpent King 23:26, 4 December 2015 (EST)

Why

Why did you remind me of Snake, I am sadz. 😭. Anyway...

Nice job. Ganonmew, The Festive Evil Clone 16:41, 7 December 2015 (EST)

Ah, thanks. Miles (talk) 17:04, 7 December 2015 (EST)

Question

I recently took a bunch of in-game screenshots of the Mii Swordfighter's special moves. Should I replace them all, or just the low-quality gifs? Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 14:29, 9 December 2015 (EST)
Oh and, one of the three wanted pages got created. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 14:34, 9 December 2015 (EST)

Yeah, the low-quality gifs are the priority when it comes to replacement. Miles (talk) 14:45, 9 December 2015 (EST)

K, I'll get rid of them tomorrow. I'll upload all 12, but if you feel some pages are already set, delete mine. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 14:57, 9 December 2015 (EST)

Status

I fully agree that we need to be in red during and after the direct, but shouldn't we hold off until we start actually getting information? Serpent King 21:11, 14 December 2015 (EST)

I see Miles' logic in changing it, but I do agree it might've been a little too quick. (Particularly since I was about to add Ravio's costumes...) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:13, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Given the apparent nature of the server data, leaked content could show up as soon as somebody with access decides they don't care about spoiling it. Hopefully that won't occur so we can all see it tomorrow as intended, but this is a preemptive measure just in case. That said, it doesn't mean "don't edit your userspace at all", just "try not to focus on it". If you were in the middle of that still, Nutta, finish it up for now. Miles (talk) 21:14, 14 December 2015 (EST)

If there is a leak, can there be a rule in place to prevent people from putting the information on the wiki until after the direct? I don't want it to get spoiled. John PK SMAAAASH!! 21:17, 14 December 2015 (EST)

SmashWiki:What SmashWiki is not#SmashWiki is not spoiler-safe. If you want to avoid spoilers, open the Direct's page and disconnect from everything else. There might not be anything leaked, but it's very possible at any moment now. Miles (talk) 21:19, 14 December 2015 (EST)

I'd like to think they'd be more careful after Royu. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:21, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Fair enough. I'll just try not to go on any sites that could spoil the reveal. Does anyone know where the video can be viewed when the time comes? John PK SMAAAASH!! 21:23, 14 December 2015 (EST)

http://www.nintendo.com/nintendo-direct/12-15-2015/ It was even still in my clipboard ^.^ ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:26, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Thanks for the link! John PK SMAAAASH!! 21:31, 14 December 2015 (EST)

I think it's going on nintendo's twitch too right? Serpent King 21:27, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Probably. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:28, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Guess adding the link to the news template wasn't that helpful huh? :| Anywho, it's cliché at this point to think Nintendo would make the exact same mistake they already made. Why would they literally plant the update there for datamining? RobSirzx

(reset indent) They've made dumber mistakes. I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again. Disaster Flare (talk) 21:48, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Lots of reports it's there, and claims that it isn't evidence of anything yet. Miles (talk) 21:52, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Guess we aren't getting characters tomorrow, or they're just being jerks to the hackers. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by SANTY CLAWS! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 22:00, 14 December 2015 (EST)

For all we know it could be a well-coordinated prank by the datamining community. At this point, not much to do but wait. Personally I hope there's no spoilers, but we'll see. Miles (talk) 22:02, 14 December 2015 (EST)

Update: we have Cloud's clear movie, Midgar + apparently one other new stage, and nothing else of interest has been definitively found. May be safe to relax for now. Miles (talk) 22:42, 14 December 2015 (EST)