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Starting a new talk page, people. Ask me stuff here. BTW, I'll probably create a new page in the future where I discuss how I'll improve like other people such as King (don't get me started, but no offense) and Nyargleblargle, such as settling disputes (gotta work on that, though I need tips from someone, probably Flare) and adding more content on pages, and I'll definitely try to receive adminship; I have to be honest though, I'm very jealous at this point.

SW:NPA

You're getting into personal attack territory with your behavior on Serpent King's talk page. I'd rather not phrase this as a warning, per se, so let me put it this way: I encourage you to reconsider how you interact with other users. Miles (talk) 04:03, 30 October 2015 (EDT)

I'm sorry. I just wish my edits would start getting appreciated more around here rather than continuously get changed in favor of those of someone else. Know what I mean? - Drilly the Hedgehog 18:12, 30 October 2015 (EDT)

You're doing it again. As before, I encourage you to reconsider your interactions to be more collaborative and less confrontational. If you disagree with SK on something, keep it to that issue, rather than making it personal. Miles (talk) 02:15, 20 November 2015 (EST)

How am I doing it this time? - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:15, 20 November 2015 (EST)

Going out of your way to say that you "absolutely despise" someone looks like a personal attack. That's not a kind of behavior condoned in a collaborative wiki environment, and the NPA policy should make that clear. Miles (talk) 02:20, 20 November 2015 (EST)

You don't hate, do you, oppenheimer? - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:27, 20 November 2015 (EST)

I don't know what you mean by that. If you mean "are you hating on me?" the answer is no. I would like to see you discuss issues of wiki business with SK and others in a way that feels like you are more open-minded and less likely to take offense if there is a disagreement. Miles (talk) 02:37, 20 November 2015 (EST)

Oops. Forgot to put 'me' after 'hate'. Sorry for the confusion. - Drilly the Hedgehog 02:38, 20 November 2015 (EST)

Yes...I must interject here. Disagreements and reversions of your edits are in no way supposed to convey the tone of a personal attack. Serpent King 02:40, 20 November 2015 (EST)

No one cares if you like every user here, it's unrealistic to expect everyone to get along. However, repeatedly going out of your way to tell a user you don't like them with no criticism whatsoever, and just being a general ass to them unprovoked, is harassment. With your prior warning, and the length of time this has been going on, you can take a week break. Omega Tyrant 15:16, 21 November 2015 (EST)

You blocked me once on Smashpedia 4-5 years ago for vandalism (which I sorta did, mainly because I was only around 10 years old at that time, so I was pretty naive), and now you're blocking me on SmashWiki too, only this time unfairly? Let me make myself as clear as I can. First of all, I gave my reasons for disliking King on his feedback page. Secondly, I had already ceased with the whole "I don't like you" business after he agreed to improve. Lastly, isn't it considered harassment calling me an ass? I don't get why you gotta be the strictest among the admins. Serpent King, I hope you see my message. - Drilly the Hedgehog 19:31, 21 November 2015 (EST)

I shouldn't be here but I want to be so ha You didn't tell him what he did wrong; you told him that you didn't like him because he either undid your edits or didn't let you handle vandalism, and that you preferred him in September. While I don't know if I'd call the specific scenario block-worthy, you definitely were out of line. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:19, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Isn't that telling him what he did wrong? BTW, there's a vandal that I would revert the edits of if you-know-who didn't do you-know-what. Earth to Nutta Butta: are you there? - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:23, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Sorry, I was handling that vandal because believe it or not you aren't the only person who can.

No, it's not telling him what he did wrong, because he did nothing wrong. You were just peeved (I have a no-swearing policy, shoot me) that he didn't agree with you.

Personally, if I were in OT's shoes, I'd probably ban you too. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:28, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Here are a few things: 1) I have rollback. I'm able to undo edits quicker with just one click whereas you had to go through multiple steps. 2) Fine, I compromise. 3) Why? - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:31, 21 November 2015 (EST)

You've been handling edit reverts badly lately, and it's been a headache to resolve them (no offense). Just keep an open mind once the block is over, and this hopefully becomes water under the bridge. Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 21:34, 21 November 2015 (EST)

How have I been handling reverts badly? - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:38, 21 November 2015 (EST)

See: SK. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:39, 21 November 2015 (EST)

(reset) Um, what? - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:40, 21 November 2015 (EST)

What you told SK was that he kept reverting your edits and that's why you hated him. If that's not handling reverts poorly idk what is. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:41, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Not MY edits, vandals' edits that I wanted to revert. - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:43, 21 November 2015 (EST)

...does it really matter?

I was talking more about the Roy incident anyway. Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 21:44, 21 November 2015 (EST)

No they're talking about reverts like on the Roy (PM) page. You basically told us your way was better because why not, even though SW:TONE was violated. Serpent King 21:46, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Oh, that one. You know what, fine. I'll cut the crap already, no matter how much I piss myself off. I hope you're happy. You guys aren't mad at me, are you? - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:47, 21 November 2015 (EST)

(reset) I forgive you. You're still a great contributor either way. Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 21:52, 21 November 2015 (EST)

You have to admit, me being blocked here was less fair than why I was blocked back at Smashpedia 5 years ago(I was 10, so I was definitely an asshole) by the same guy (for creating a fanon page). - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:54, 21 November 2015 (EST)

The block should probably have been a bit shorter, and was obviously more disputable, but that doesn't invalidate it. Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 21:56, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Which one: this one or the one from Smashpedia from 5 years ago? - Drilly the Hedgehog 21:59, 21 November 2015 (EST)

To get it out of the way, I'd like to say I did not see OT's move coming, not saying it was a poor one perse, just unexpected. Now, I'd like to touch upon everyone in the situation here. First, I'd like to say that, OT, I think your decision to block Drilly was one that might shape him up for the better, and I appreciate that. Honestly, I don't see harassment in that post. Now, Miles, admittedly you handled the situation well for the short term well, but you were a little too much bark without enough bite, with all of those chances, which is something I hate to say when the subject is a good faith user. Now, Nutty, I don't think you should've gone into this, considering you merely opened another can of worms. Now, Drilly. Lately I've been dreading the potential consequences for your behavior, which is why I keep being all blunt to you. However, I really don't know what to think of your edits as of the past two months. You pretty much brought this upon yourself by constantly ignoring warnings that people give you and making almost Brian levels of hatred for certain users, which you made even worse with additional violations of SW:1RV. I really hated how it had to come to this, but quite frankly I can't warn you anymore. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 22:00, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Are you saying Miles is a bad admin, because that's what it sounds like. - Drilly the Hedgehog 22:06, 21 November 2015 (EST)

No, he handled you quite well for a while. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 22:09, 21 November 2015 (EST)

My response to Drilly's direct reply.

"First of all, I gave my reasons for disliking King on his feedback page."

Which amounted to you complaining that he reverted your edits and then just saying "you were better in August!". You didn't come out looking any better.

"Secondly, I had already ceased with the whole "I don't like you" business after he agreed to improve."

After the first time you been directly warned by an admin and apologised, you still kept doing it. Now this will serve as a stronger reminder to knock it off.

"Lastly, isn't it considered harassment calling me an ass?"

Do you understand what harassment is?

"I don't get why you gotta be the strictest among the admins"

Gotta live up to the reputation. Omega Tyrant 23:11, 21 November 2015 (EST)

Also, why am I blocked here for a week when back at Smashpedia from 5 years ago, you only blocked me for 3 days, even though vandalism (the fanon page I made that I forgot the name of) is supposed to be more negative than what I did here (sorry, Serpent King)? I won't even be able to contribute on my own time during Thanksgiving. - Drilly the Hedgehog 05:07, 22 November 2015 (EST)

To be fair, you received quite a few warnings before you were blocked in this case. Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 08:19, 22 November 2015 (EST)

Don't tell me this is gonna turn out like the Brandondorf9999 incident from few years ago. - Drilly the Hedgehog 00:56, 23 November 2015 (EST)

I leave for school for 6-7 fucking hours and this is what happens: me being assaulted, and it seems like almost nobody cares and that you guys are just ignoring me (just simply reverting vandals' edits is not good enough). If I wasn't blocked, I could at least join this here conversation. - Drilly the Hedgehog 17:33, 23 November 2015 (EST)

1) If I didn't care, I would not be blocking these vandals. 2) Please calm down before I am forced to act further. Serpent King 17:35, 23 November 2015 (EST)

Like I said, dealing with these vandals is progress, but not good enough. Pardon for #2? - Drilly the Hedgehog 17:36, 23 November 2015 (EST)

Well you seem a little hostile. This is me asking you to please chill out before you land yourself in more trouble. Serpent King 17:39, 23 November 2015 (EST)

(reset) You know what, fine. Bless you. PS I'm still looking forward to administratorship. - Drilly the Hedgehog 17:41, 23 November 2015 (EST)

xD

I actually thought your talk page was protected there xD INoMed ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 04:16, 30 October 2015 (EDT)

I'd like to advise you...

to stop harassing King and John. Yeah they disagree with your actions, but that's because they are violations of the basic guidelines. You used to be a be a user who would help out, but now you are trying too hard to be funny or too stuck with your side and calling any disagreements to your opinion hate and people who do disagree with you being accused of being jerks. What I'm trying to tell you is straighten your attitude. Ganonmew, The TERRIFYING Evil Clone 14:49, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

While it is respectable that you are trying to put a stop to it, Miles is already getting it under control. He's keeping a close eye out and making sure nothing else happens. I would recommend leaving it be for now unless something happens again. Disaster Flare (talk) 14:52, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

That's what I'll do. I'm not angry with Drilly as much as I am annoyed and surprised. Ganonmew, The TERRIFYING Evil Clone 15:05, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

Yeah, I get what you mean. Disaster Flare (talk) 15:10, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

(sigh) I feel very bad and guilty now. I'm just here for the same goal as almost everybody else: to make it better by filling the pages with valuable content. I never thought I would be ridiculed this much. - Drilly the Hedgehog 19:37, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

The intent is to offer advice, not to ridicule you. Good faith edits are appreciated, but part of the nature of a wiki is understanding that people will not always agree with you and sometimes your edits will be revised by others. Being able to take constructive criticism is an important skill. Miles (talk) 19:43, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

Still, I feel very bad. I understand you guys are giving me tips on how to behave around here and hope you're not mad at me. I'm still looking forward to improving this site. - Drilly the Hedgehog 19:44, 31 October 2015 (EDT)

I just want to say...

...that your last edit to the Roy page, while short, was good. There was no subjectivity and I think you worded it better than it was before. Also, nothing was awkwardly worded there were was no excessive use of semicolons (;), and no unnecessary or redundant info. I hope you realize I haven't been trying to "annoy" you by editing some of the stuff you've written. I'm just working on improving it. Some of the stuff I've written now will be edited and improved by someone else weeks or months from now. If you look at what exactly I'm changing when I make these edits, you'll see that I am trying to cut back on awkward wording, run-on sentences, and unnecessary or redundant info.

If you want to know what I consider to be unnecessary, here are some examples. On the Sonic page, there are two bits of unnecessary info imo. "...this includes his terrible range due to his small stature (in addition to a lack of projectiles and a sword)" - "terrible" is not a good word if we want to stay neutral. Also, not everyone without a sword has bad range, and it is quite clear that Sonic does not have a sword (except here, but that's not PM). Also, "As such, similar to the space animals, a single blunder from Sonic can cost him his stock." - this holds true for everyone. If you mess up Ness's recovery, you lose a stock. If a heavy character misses a smash attack, they could get zero-to-death K.O.ed. The space animals are not the only ones who have to worry about not making a single blunder.

Do you understand what I mean by awkward wording, run-on sentences, and unnecessary or redundant info? These are things that make the wiki less encyclopedic. You have to be careful that nothing you add is awkwardly worded, run-on, or extraneous. You've made good edits, but you need to be open to people improving on those edits. So please realize that I make these edits to improve the wiki, not to annoy you or just because I like my version of stuff more (and sometimes, my version is worse in some ways). Thank you. John PK SMAAAASH!! 08:20, 1 November 2015 (EST)

This. The Roy edit was indeed a remarkable start. Keep up the good work. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 11:50, 1 November 2015 (EST)

So now you're complimenting me? I've been making good edits prior, too, you know. - Drilly the Hedgehog 14:45, 1 November 2015 (EST)

Wow. Dude, chill out. It's a compliment, why are you taking offense to it? Serpent King 14:47, 1 November 2015 (EST)

I'm not saying I'm offended (why would anyone be offended by a compliment?). I'm only asking the 11-year-old kid why he's complimenting me now instead of before. - Drilly the Hedgehog 15:07, 1 November 2015 (EST)

Well I wasn't witness to it, and if it was before, then it was before the OT incident where you just fell apart. After two weeks of a rough time on the wiki, the Roy edit is a good place to clean up. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 17:02, 1 November 2015 (EST)

How were you not aware? You're active on this wiki every day when you're not at school. I make my edits after I come home. - Drilly the Hedgehog 18:23, 1 November 2015 (EST)

Well, you'd be surprised how much school consumes my life, and how much Recent Changes floods the wiki. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 19:16, 1 November 2015 (EST)

Now you tell me. - Drilly the Hedgehog 20:42, 1 November 2015 (EST)

I forgot to say, good job bud, you did a good job. I will admit I was worried at first that it was gonna get reverted again, but as soon as the compliments settled in, I relaxed a bit. Keep up the good work. :D Disaster Flare (talk) 22:10, 1 November 2015 (EST)

Weren't my previous edits good, also? - Drilly the Hedgehog 23:55, 1 November 2015 (EST)

Yes they were, but SW:TONE was getting in the way of making them 100% good. I still feel bad about the fact that you almost had to face punishment though. Disaster Flare (talk) 23:59, 1 November 2015 (EST)

I blame John. - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:49, 2 November 2015 (EST)

WOAH WOAH WOAH Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 19:17, 3 November 2015 (EST)

(reset) Pardon? - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:21, 4 November 2015 (EST)

Blaming other users for your potential punishment is a bit...worrying. Nyargleblargle (Talk | Contribs) 09:28, 4 November 2015 (EST)

Dang

You're fast. I keep trying to undo, but you and SC keep beating me to the punch. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 17:52, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Please let me... Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 17:57, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Go ahead. - Drilly the Hedgehog 17:57, 7 November 2015 (EST)

...Did I just steal yours Ganonmew? D: ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:57, 7 November 2015 (EST)

...yeah, you did. - Drilly the Hedgehog 17:58, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Take this one. Sowwy... ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:58, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Nvm, SC took it. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 17:59, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Sorry, that was very unsporting of me. ScoreCounter 18:00, 7 November 2015 (EST)

(reset) What are you waiting for? Go. - Drilly the Hedgehog 18:02, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Now I'm good till the next vandal. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 18:03, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Nvm, then. ScoreCounter, please continue. - Drilly the Hedgehog 18:04, 7 November 2015 (EST)

• Fire Emblem Level Up Jingle* ScoreCounter 18:04, 7 November 2015 (EST)

Roy

We have to get a compromise. What exactly do you dislike about my most recent edit? John PK SMAAAASH!! 21:24, 13 November 2015 (EST)

I concur. John's edit flows better. Serpent King 21:35, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Agreed. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 21:36, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Why do you guys antagonize me and my edits? Mind telling me how mine's bad? At least I'm partially following SW:TONE. - Drilly the Hedgehog 23:23, 13 November 2015 (EST)

I did not violate 1RV because the edit was discussed first. You, by choice, did not participate. You on the other hand, did violate 1RV. Serpent King 23:38, 13 November 2015 (EST)

I don't think it matters unless it was vandalism, in this case of which is was not, so you did. - Drilly the Hedgehog 23:40, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Have you actually read the policy? It says that the edit must be discussed before a decision was made. It was unanimous that John's edit was better. Serpent King 23:41, 13 November 2015 (EST)

Oh, also, the policy states that you should not revert an edit that breaks 1RV anyway sooooo... Serpent King 23:46, 13 November 2015 (EST)

(reset) See, this is why I absolutely envy you, Serpent. - Drilly the Hedgehog 23:59, 13 November 2015 (EST)

That may be the wrong word. Serpent King 00:01, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Just a note, given that it is a 3-1 scenario here, it's not really our job to tell you what's wrong with yours. It's your job to tell us why yours is better. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 00:01, 14 November 2015 (EST)

To Serpent: I assume you don't know the definition of 'envy'. - Drilly the Hedgehog 00:02, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Look, this conversation is pointless. Unless you want to argue your point on the edits, let's end it now. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 00:05, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Agree'd. Serpent King 00:05, 14 November 2015 (EST)

That's exactly what I want. Nonetheless, I still loathe Serpent. - Drilly the Hedgehog 00:06, 14 November 2015 (EST)

Mr. Serious 11 year old is back.

"I blame John." "I still loathe Serpent"

I'm tired, Drilly. They are trying to help the growth of the wiki and are helping you make better decisions with your edits. If all you're going to do is violate SW:1RV and SW:NPA to defend your points, you eat posts like mine. Please go back to the Drilly Dilly I remember. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 07:40, 14 November 2015 (EST)

You're seriously not helping. I too am trying to help this wiki and make it a better place and secure it from vandals by reverting their edits, but in return, what do I get: hatred and criticism. What's up with that? Just leave me alone, will ya? Sooner or later, things will probably start getting worse if we continue this discussion. Dropping out RIGHT NOW. - Drilly the Hedgehog 11:28, 14 November 2015 (EST)

I'm only trying to give you constructive criticism. I don't hate you, in fact I like you a lot. But please refrain from comments like the ones I made. I really hate making commenys like these and I hope this is the last one I have to make. Ganonmew, The Thankful Evil Clone 07:50, 15 November 2015 (EST)

No admins are around, so ignore the vandal

Seriously, I've dealt with vandals before. Nothing gets them to go away quicker (aside from a ban) than ignoring them. Laikue (talk | contribs) 03:09, 16 November 2015 (EST)

SW:TALK

I guess I could give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you were magically replaced by a brand new person who legitimately doesn't know this policy, but otherwise, you've been on this wiki for five years. You shouldn't be editing someone else's comment - and even if the first one was a joke, you shouldn't have edited it again after I pointed it out. Yes your opinions on that game are different. But it's not your message. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by a turkey! Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 07:15, 17 November 2015 (EST)

...And exactly who "replaced" me? - Drilly the Hedgehog 18:21, 17 November 2015 (EST)

That was a joke, but the point still stands. You also did this with my signature after welcoming Toxicity. Disaster Flare (talk) 18:23, 17 November 2015 (EST)

That was to joke around. Didn't mean to offend anybody (except probably Reyortsed eht Ekactun) - Drilly the Hedgehog 18:24, 17 November 2015 (EST)

Okay, you're forgiven, just please be careful about doing things like that, as it could be seen as a potential form of vandalism. Disaster Flare (talk) 18:25, 17 November 2015 (EST)

Question.

What do you think FNG means? Serpent King 04:34, 18 November 2015 (EST)

Don't welcome new users until they made a constructive edit. Omega Tyrant 04:38, 18 November 2015 (EST)

Well it's worse. This is its meaning. Drilly, please stop saying it. Serpent King 04:39, 18 November 2015 (EST)

Did you already know what it means before you brought up the subject? - Drilly the Hedgehog 20:46, 18 November 2015 (EST)

The point is, if the wrong person sees that, it could make the wiki look bad, or worse, newer users could start having something against you if they're offended by it. That's why we're concerned. Disaster Flare (talk) 20:49, 18 November 2015 (EST)

Gee, all I'm doing is just joking and referencing COD4. - Drilly the Hedgehog 20:51, 18 November 2015 (EST)

It's not exactly a COD reference, it's a real thing... Disaster Flare (talk) 20:51, 18 November 2015 (EST)

I know that (there's an article on Wikipedia). What I'm saying is that I'm saying it in the same way Price referred to Soap. I'll cease for now. - Drilly the Hedgehog 20:54, 18 November 2015 (EST)

Umm

Why exactly do you want me to rollback an edit and what edit? Disaster Flare (talk) 01:38, 19 November 2015 (EST)

The one on File:Fox Mc 3.png - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:39, 19 November 2015 (EST)

There's still the question of why? I don't wanna look like I'm abusing my privileges so I need a reason. Disaster Flare (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2015 (EST)

I just want you to do it. That's all. Also, about the FNG thing, I know it's a real term, but I was using it in the same way Price said it to Soap. - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:41, 19 November 2015 (EST)

Okay then...and yeah I did read it, but not everybody's going to get that reference. Disaster Flare (talk) 01:42, 19 November 2015 (EST)

Of course... - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:42, 19 November 2015 (EST)

Stop welcoming new users who didn't make a constructive edit

I already told you before two sections prior to not do that. Omega Tyrant 01:53, 21 November 2015 (EST)

I know, and TertiaryFriend and SolidGardy each made a good edit, from what I looked back at. - Drilly the Hedgehog 01:54, 21 November 2015 (EST)