Super Smash Bros. 4

List of updates (SSB4)/1.0.8 changelog

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This is the list of known changes in version 1.0.8 of Super Smash Bros. 4. All claims on this page must be verifiable, preferably with a trustable source link, and must compare both the old and new states. Ensure that all changes are also listed on the respective pages.

Universal

  • Change Grounded to air ledge transition mechanics altered.

Bowser

  • Buff Occurence of an unknown action in up tilt: frame 11 → frame 10
  • Change Up tilt hitbox 2 removed.
  • Nerf Up tilt damage: 10% → 9%
  • Buff Up tilt startup: 12 frames → 11 frames
  • Change Up tilt hitbox X-offset: 7.4 → 6.9
  • Buff Up tilt endlag: 51 frames → 41 frames

Captain Falcon

  • Nerf Up air damage: 13% → 11%

Charizard

  • Change Jab 1's weight-based knockback increased.
  • Buff Transition from first to second jab is one frame earlier.
  • Buff Neutral air is faster.
  • Buff Up throw knockback increased significantly.
  • Change Down throw knockback reduced significantly, making it ideal for combos but it less a reliable KO move.

Diddy Kong

  • Nerf Jab 1 damage: 1.5% → 1.2%
  • Buff Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 10 → frame 8
  • Nerf Jab 2 damage: 1.5% → 1.2%
  • Buff Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 9 → frame 8
  • Change Jab 3 weight-based knockback: 30 → 25
  • Buff Jab 3 hitbox sizes: 4/3.5/3 → 4.2/3.7/3.2
  • Buff Transition between third hit and looping hits of jab: frame 22 → frame 15
  • Buff Looping hits of jab now use a large, single hitbox as opposed to many small ones.
  • Nerf Looping hits of jab damage: 0.6% → 0.5%
  • Change Looping hits of jab angle: 70/90 → 60
  • Change Looping hits of jab weight-based knockback: 6 → 4
  • Buff SDI of jab rapid hits: 1.3 → 0.7
  • Change Unknown parameters of rapid jab hits changed from default to 6.8 and 6.
  • Buff Final hit of jab animation length: frame 8 → frame 4
  • Nerf Final hit of jab knockback scaling: 180 → 177
  • Buff Final hit of jab base knockback: 30 → 45
  • Buff Final hit of jab hitbox size: 5 → 7.2
  • Change Final hit of jab Y-offset: 5.5 → 6.8
  • Change Unknown parameters of final hits of jab changed from 5.5 to 6.8 and 6.
  • Buff Down tilt given an additional hitbox.
  • Nerf Down tilt damage: 6% → 5.5%
  • Nerf Up air startup: 3 frames → 4 frames
  • Nerf Up air autocancel: 15 frames → 27 frames
  • Nerf Up air base knockback: 65 → 64
  • Nerf Up air knockback growth: 99 → 89
  • Nerf Up throw (hit 1) damage: 4% → 1%
  • Nerf Up throw (hit 1) base knockback: 30 → 50
  • Nerf Up throw (hit 1) knockback scaling: 100 → 120
  • Buff Down throw damage: 6% → 7%
  • Change Down throw angle: 105° → 106°
  • Nerf Down throw knockback scaling: 50 → 59

Donkey Kong

  • Buff Cargo forward throw damage: 8% → 10%
  • Buff Cargo back throw damage: 8% → 12%
  • Change Cargo back throw angle: 55° → 72°
  • Change Cargo back throw base knockback: 80 → 70
  • Buff Cargo up throw damage: 7% → 10%
  • Buff Cargo down throw damage: 6% → 7%
  • Change Cargo down throw angle: 45° → 48°
  • Buff Cargo back throw base knockback: 65 → 50
  • Buff Cargo back throw knockback scaling: 38 → 80
  • Buff Occurence of an unknown action in cargo back throw: frame 18 → frame 17
  • Change DK now hops while performing cargo down toss.

Falco

  • Nerf Neutral air (hit 2) damage: 3% → 2%
  • Buff Neutral air hits now auto link.
  • Change Neutral air's final hit now forces front-facing knockback.
  • Buff Forward air damage: 8% → 9%
  • Nerf Forward air landing damage: 5% → 3%
  • Buff Forward air has less lag overall.
  • Nerf Up air damage: 11% → 10%
  • Buff Up air sourspot removed.
  • Buff Up air startup: 10 frames → 7 frames
  • Change Down air sweetspot no longer meteor smashes grounded opponents, but sends them upwards.

Greninja

  • Buff Forward tilt damage: 6.5% → 7.3%
  • Buff Forward tilt endlag reduced by about ten frames.

Ike

  • Buff Jab transition into second hit: frame 13 → frame 10
  • Change New hitbox replaces hitbox 1 of jab's second hit, which replaces hitbox 2.
    • Change The new hitbox 1 hits at an angle of 80°, has a knockback scaling of 80 and weight-based knockback of 25, and has a size of 3.5.
  • Change Jab 2 (hitbox 0) Y-offset: 8 → 7.5
  • Buff Jab 3 startup: 7 frames → 6 frames
  • Buff Jab 3 now properly hits above Ike.
  • Buff Jab 3 hitbox presence: 3 frames → 4 frames
  • Buff Forward tilt start-up: 15 frames → 12 frames
  • Change Forward tilt's hitboxes combined.
  • Change Forward tilt moved from bone 1000 to bone 1.
  • Change Forward tilt now does 12.5% damage.
  • Change Up tilt Y-offset: 12/10.5 → 13/12
  • Buff Up tilt hitbox removal: frame 19 → frame 22
  • Buff Dash attack has less start-up (18 frames → 15 frames) and deals more damage (Sweet spot: 10% → 14%. Sour spot: 7% → 11% and 5% → 9%)
  • Buff Dash attack angle (all but sourspot): 55° → 52°
  • Buff Dash attack knockback growth (all but sourspot): 70 → 78
  • Buff Dash attack sweetspot size: 6 → 6.3
  • Change Dash attack sweetspot hitlag: 1 → 1.2
  • Buff Neutral air landing lag: 16 frames → 13 frames
  • Buff Forward air startup: 16 frames → 14 frames
  • Buff Forward air has better hitbox placements (Hits better above and below him).
  • Buff Forward air landing lag reduced: 19 frames → 18 frames
  • Buff Up air landing lag reduced: 18 frames → 15 frames
  • Buff Down air landing lag reduced: 26 frames → 23 frames
  • Buff Quick Draw startup reduced: 19 frames → 16 frames

Kirby

  • Nerf Upward angled forward smash sourspot deals 1% less damage, and K.O.s 11% later.

Link

  • Nerf Down tilt damage: 12% → 11%
  • Buff X-offsets of down tilt: 12.8/15.4 → 14.1/16.6
  • Buff Down tilt startup: 13 frames → 11 frames
  • Buff Down tilt endlag: 31 frames → 28 frames
  • Buff Up smash now links better.
  • Buff Grab range increased.
  • Buff Standing grab endlag: 66 frames → 61 frames
  • Buff Dash grab endlag: 77 frames → 65 frames
  • Buff Pivot grab endlag: 79 frames → 66 frames
  • Buff Forward throw angle: 55° → 50°
  • Nerf Down throw (hit 2) damage: 4% → 3%
  • Buff Down throw angle: 110° → 83°
  • Buff Down throw knockback growth: 90 → 85
  • Buff Spin Attack knockback growth (stages 1-3): 84/80/80 → 85/85/82
  • Buff Shocking Spin Attack stage 2 knockback growth: 80 → 82

Lucario

  • Buff Jab (hit 1) knockback decreased, allowing it to connect more easily with the second hit.

Lucina

  • Buff Jab (hit 1) angle modified to make it easier to follow up on.
  • Buff Jab endlag and time until earliest transitions are two frames shorter.
  • Buff Up tilt knockback increased.
  • Buff Up tilt endlag: 42 frames → 39 frames
  • Change Up tilt body hitbox angle more vertical.
  • Buff Forward tilt damage: 9.975% → ~10.85%
  • Buff Neutral air landing lag: 15 frames → 12 frames
  • Buff Dolphin Slash knockback increased.
  • Change Activation of Counter now plays a quote.

Marth

  • Nerf Jab 1 damage: 4%/6% → 3%/5%
  • Buff Jab 1 angle: Sakurai angle → 78°/65°/90°
  • Change Jab 1 knockback growth: 50/70 → 30
  • Change Jab 1 base knockback: 20/30 → 55
  • Change Jab 1 hitlag: 1 → 0.7
  • Buff Transition from Jab 1 to Jab 2: frame 20 → frame 17
  • Buff Jab 2 angle: Sakurai angle → 100
  • Change Jab 2 initial base knockback: 50 → 65
  • Change Jab 2 (late) base knockback: 40 → 52
  • Buff Jab endlag and time until earliest transitions are two frames shorter.
  • Buff Up tilt knockback increased.
  • Buff Up tilt endlag: 42 frames → 39 frames
  • Buff Marth moves forward if actions are taken during IASA frames.
  • Change Up tilt body hitbox angle more vertical.
  • Buff Neutral air landing lag: 15 frames → 12 frames
  • Buff Dolphin Slash knockback scaling: 68 → 74
  • Buff Dolphin Slash/Crescent Slash hitlag: 0.5 → 0.7

Mii Swordfighter

Meta Knight

  • Buff Jab damage: 1% → 1.2%
  • Buff Jab endlag reduced by approximately twelve frames.
  • Change Forward tilt final hit angle: 65° → ~40°
  • Buff Forward tilt final hit damage: 3% → 4%
  • Buff Forward tilt endlag reduced by approximately ten frames.
  • Buff Neutral air landing lag reduced.

Mewtwo

Mr. Game & Watch

  • Buff Down tilt base knockback (sweetspot): 10 → 40
  • Buff Down tilt knockback scaling (sweetspot): 120 → 125
  • Buff Down tilt base knockback (sourspot): 60 → 70
  • Buff Down tilt knockback scaling (sourspot): 100 → 120
  • Change Down tilt sourspot size: 9 → 10.5
  • Change Unknown parameter of down tilt sourspot: 11 → 9

Ness

Olimar

Palutena

  • Change Up tilt hitboxes moved from bone 1000 to bone 0.
  • Buff Up tilt loop hits link better into themselves.
  • Buff Up tilt (loop hits) damage: 1% → 1.2%

Peach

  • Buff Jab hit 1 range: 2.4 → 3
  • Buff Jab hit 2 range: 2.4 → 4

Robin

  • Change Automatic pushback from jab's rapid hit can now cause Robin to hang on the ledge.

Rosalina & Luma

  • Buff Luma HP: 47 → 50
  • Nerf Rapid jab end knockback scaling: 170 → 150

Samus

  • Buff Up smash hitbox sizes increased by 0.5.
  • Change Certain hitboxes in Up Smash split.
  • Buff Up smash (final hit) knockback growth: 135 → 150
  • Buff Up smash final hitbox sizes: 7/3.5 → 7.3/4

Sonic

  • Nerf Up Smash (final hit) knockback growth: 177 → 165
  • Buff Down air endlag reduced.
  • Buff Up throw knockback increased.

Toon Link

  • Change Jab 2 knockback growth: 37 → 34
  • Change Jab 2 base knockback: 16 → 25
  • Buff Jab 3 hitbox sizes: 3.5 → 4.2
  • Change Jab 3 hitbox 0 Z-offset: 5 → 4.5

Villager

  • Buff Down throw damage: 4.5% → 6%
  • Nerf Consecutive uses of Balloon Trip now result in less distance.

Wario

  • Change Unknown parameters set to 63 and 15 on many hitboxes.
  • Change Jab 1 (hitbox 0) angle: 65° → 55°
  • Nerf Jab 1 (hitbox 0) base knockback: 35 → 45
  • Change Jab 1 (hitbox 1) angle: 75° → 72°
  • Change Jab 1 (hitbox 1) knockback scaling: 50 → 40
  • Nerf Jab 1 (hitbox 1) base knockback: 28 → 38
  • Buff Jab 2 hitbox sizes: 5.5/3.5 → 5.8/3.8/3.3

Zelda

  • Buff Up Smash (final hit)knockback scaling: 190 → 214
  • Buff Up Smash (multihits) size: 3 → 3.5
  • Buff SDI of Up Smash multihits set to 0.5.
  • Buff Up Smash weight-based knockback (multihits): 60 → 40
  • Change Sweetspot and sourspot on neutral air switched.
  • Buff Neutral air landing lag: 22 frames → 19 frames.
  • Buff Up air landing lag: 22 frames → 19 frames
  • Buff Down air landing lag: 21 frames → 18 frames

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