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Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the Smash Arena! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters from the Super Smash Bros. series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, just vote if you are a total fanboy of the character. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message here.

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Round 74: Olimar vs. Pikmin

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 Winner!!
undecided

0 to 0
Time for an unorthodox fight! This particular throwdown pits the general against his men, as it were. Is it the face of the army that gets the goods, or will it be the workers that get the props?

Votes for Olimar

  1. And just how well were Pikmin faring on their own before Olimar got them organized? Miles (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2011 (EST)
  2. They weren't exactly flourishing at the start of Pikmin 2. They so need Olimar.MegaTron1XD:p 22:07, 18 February 2011 (EST)
  3. Including the aforementioned comments above, there are a vast many (like, maybe over 40 :?) who use solimar.Vincent Tran Blorbs?Kirby-1.png 02:35, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  4. Just look at him! He is awesome! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:16, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  5. Olimar is useless without his pikmin, but pikmin are useless without olimar.. And also, he looks so epic! Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 10:27, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  6. Olimar can still fight without pikmin, plus there are two pikmin that aren't in Brawl LordNock (the guy with the pie) (talk) 13:49, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  7. Olimar controls the Pikmin. 'Nuff said. The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive'
  8. I love just running around as Olimar and punching random enemies on Pikmin. Made even more fun by the fact he gets rocket gloves in Pikmin 2. Fuddlebob (talk) 00:55, 20 February 2011 (EST)
  9. Even though Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, his Pikmin without Olimar are even less! At least Olimar can do something by himself. Critical Hit, and... KO! 08:44, 22 February 2011 (EST)
  10. Olimar is a good character for me in brawl. The pikmin would just run around the stage screaming without him.24.30.130.49 14:41, 22 February 2011 (EST)
  11. In the best ending of Pikmin, Olimar inspires the Pikmin to work for themselves. The Pikmin 2 pikmin I think are in a different part of pikmin planet, but either way, Olimar is an average everyday guy, who just does stuff to feed his family. So there.Dhawk (talk) 14:13, 23 February 2011 (EST)
  12. Olimar can take a hit, unlike the Pikmin. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 14:23, 23 February 2011 (EST)
  13. Olimar survived well without them, and he can take more hits than them. Also, most of his attacks dont need him. User:HTK(User talk:HTK) 20:18, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Votes for Pikmin

  1. "Come men! We must rebel against Hitler!"-Ivy73002MS.png 21:09, 18 February 2011 (EST)
  2. Remember, there's strength in numbers! BrawlingbrianFalcoHead.png LANDMASTER! 21:19, 18 February 2011 (EST)
  3. The Pikmin pretty much make Olimar the character he is in Brawl now. Doc King (talk) 23:43, 18 February 2011 (EST)
  4. Olimar couldn't be that good playable characters without using his Pikmins. --178.37.127.133 01:55, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  5. Changed vote. I decided that pikmin are more powerful than Olimar and they are beast. ..... (talk) 02:01, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  6. Without the Pikmin Olimar would've died on the pikmin planet. 110.174.90.69 05:41, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  7. Purple Pikmin is just pure win. Zero (talk) 06:10, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  8. A Pikmin without leader don't know what to do, Olimar without Pikmin is USELESS Lucasthefourth Psychic PowerLt4 sign.jpg 07:41, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  9. pikmin are so cute--Peach67809 (talk) 09:35, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  10. Your joking right? Without his Pikmin, Olmair is pathetic. Hevck, he doesn't even know how to punch or kick and probably couldn't with those arms! Pikmin are unstoppable army that spread fear throughout planets! TheBioShadow (talk) 10:48, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  11. Olimar is nothing without his pikmin --204.191.132.110 12:03, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  12. From a Smash perspective, these guys are awesome. In the Pikmin games, they suck. Luckily we're talking about this on a Smash related scope, so, Pikmin! HavocReaper 16:46, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  13. as the chinease one from snake said: they fight, they help, they multiply, and then they get eaten... how terrible, give some respect to those funny, weak, and edible things! of course, i never played Pikmin... but it's name seems a bit like pokemon... so... WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE!85.250.140.18 12:31, 20 February 2011 (EST)
  14. The Pikmin are the reason Olimar is even a character in this game.98.116.118.143 19:08, 20 February 2011 (EST)
  15. It's 5 on 1, kinda obvious who wins 75.32.32.229 13:45, 21 February 2011 (EST)
  16. Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, but the Pikmin are nothing without Olimar. I'll vote for the real contender in smash.198.166.220.113 16:15, 21 February 2011 (EST)
  17. The series is called Pikmin, not Olimar. Burgundy (talk) 17:47, 21 February 2011 (EST)
  18. i like Pikmin!206.53.152.103 22:22, 22 February 2011 (EST)
  19. Well, this is 1 vs 5, right?Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 22:32, 22 February 2011 (EST)
  20. Pikmin are awesome, they are edible! Floor2000x (talk) 22:48, 22 February 2011 (EST)
  21. Olimar would be absolutely nothing without pikmin - Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw (talk) 07:00, 23 February 2011 (EST)
  22. Olimar is just useless without his valiant men. RedEgadd (talk) 20:02, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Half Votes

  1. olimar is the weakest without his pikmins! go pikmins!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.127.204.199 (talk • contribs) 04:53, 19 February 2011
  2. "Let's go! We must-- what- what are you doing? Get off! No! NO! NOOOOO!" Exactly.PKFireMetaKnightHead.png MetaKnight —Preceding unsigned comment added 08:35, February 19, 2011 (EST)
  3. Olimar is very weak- almost nothing- without these guys. (This is by Roxas13Nobody Olimar cant fight without the pikmin, so pikmin would kick his little hiney.—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 14:06, 19 February 2011
  4. Pikmins are vegtables, so you can eat them! yum! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.91.232 (talk • contribs) 12:45, 19 February 2011 (EST)
  5. PIKMIN ARE SO SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!! In brawl, when Olimar doesn't have Pikmin he stinks. He can't even use smash attacks. The point is is that Pikmin are the ones who actually brawl. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 10:12, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Comments

Can't decide but more better match. ..... (talk) 23:20, 18 February 2011 (EST)

The pikmin were pretty much helpless before olimar, but olimar is hopeless without the pikmin... which one to choose...?Rising Dragon (talk) 06:36, 19 February 2011(EST)

The both very weak... who are better? WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE!

So they're useless without each other, true? this is like... Popo vs Nana... no wait, they're the same... *Sigh* I wish KirbytheAmazing could vote right now, he's on study trip to Bali... Lucasthefourth Psychic PowerLt4 sign.jpg 05:01, 21 February 2011 (EST)

I never looked closely at Olimar's hands before...Those gloves make his hands look mechanized. BrawlingbrianFalcoHead.png LANDMASTER! 11:32, 22 February 2011 (EST)

Another crazy ratio match....... ..... (talk) 17:17, 22 February 2011 (EST)

I tried to get a computer with internet connection, and I only see another we-already-know-the-winner battle? THIS IS MADNESS!Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 22:36, 22 February 2011 (EST)

But this one actually came from suggestion, i remember someone suggest this... Lucasthefourth PK Thunder!!Lucas kirby.jpg 09:23, 23 February 2011 (EST)
Whoever made this suggestion... I will say this to him/her: "YOU'RE A JOKE!"Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 03:21, 24 February 2011 (EST)
If the community likes a suggestion, it usually makes it in. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Emissary 11:14, 24 February 2011 (EST)
Remember that how good a matchup is is based on the amount of votes it generates from being interesting. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest involving voting, not actual fights, so stop complaining about these votes not being close. If you were to understand the basics of voting, you would see that landslide victories are much more common than close, nearly tied votes. I'll also like to add that Toomai nor the person making the suggestion has no foresight on how the vote will turn out, so demanding "close matchups" to be chosen is demanding something that cannot be done (not to mention that trying to choose "close matchups" only will cause the Smash Arena to lose out on interesting matchups with no real gain in return). So keep this all in mind the next time you complain about a vote not being close.
Oh, and never insult Toomai nor the person who made the suggestion based on such a ridiculous basis they have no control over. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 12:00, 24 February 2011 (EST)
It is kind of hard to decide this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.197.115.28 (talk • contribs) 14:42, 24 February 2011 (EST)
Remember to sign your comments with four tildes ~~~~. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 15:16, 24 February 2011 (EST)

I only can say, hello Friday! Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 04:35, 25 February 2011 (EST)

I agree. And to think that when I saw this I thought it would actually be a bit closer than the last 3 or 4... my mistake. Fuddlebob (talk) 05:18, 25 February 2011 (EST)
Well, the difference even get bigger! (Pikmin's score = 2 x Olimar's score) = Made me LOLKirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 12:30, 25 February 2011 (EST)

I was playing today as Olimar, and one of the Red Pikmin was impaled by one of Link's arrows aand survived. The Pikmin can take a hit.BrawlingbrianFalcoHead.png LANDMASTER! 19:00, 25 February 2011 (EST)

That's common knowledge. However, they can only take a few hits. Olimar is capable of taking much more. MegaTron1XD:p 19:01, 25 February 2011 (EST)
Yeah, but pikmin are there to help Olimar do more damage. ..... (talk) 20:05, 25 February 2011 (EST)
And Olimar only can use a 'really' few moves without Pikmins... Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 20:16, 25 February 2011 (EST)

Round 73: Pikachu vs. Pichu

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 Winner!!
Pikachu
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24 to 11.5
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This week's bout is between the two lower members of the "chu" line. While one needs no introduction in the world of Pokémon, the other is only a Smasher through sheer luck and was given artificial handicaps to keep its power down. Still, it had quite the fan following - is it enough to matter in this battle?

Votes for Pikachu

  1. A NFE won't stand a chance against an evolution.MegaTron1XD:p 18:44, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  2. Pikachu is the POKEMON FRANCHISE'S MASCOT. Pichu, the unevolved version, will always live in Pikachu's shadow. BrawlingbrianFalcoHead.png LANDMASTER! 18:51, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  3. Pikachu pwns with me! 206.53.152.104 18:53, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  4. Who the hell is Pichu? Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 19:14, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  5. Pichu is nothing in the actual Pokemon games. Pikachu, with a Light Ball, is actually a powerhouse. Pikachu gets my vote. 24.30.130.49 20:14, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  6. Pikachu doesn't ever damage itself with electricity. 24.99.215.187 23:30, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  7. I like Pichu but Pikachu is clearly the better character. 110.174.90.69 23:54, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  8. Pika Pika PIKACHU! Lucasthe fourthLt4 sign.jpg 01:21, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  9. I'm sorry Toomai, but this is not a very good fight. Mr. Anon (talk) 01:26, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  10. Of course that my vote will go on Pikachu. Pichu is cuter, but Pikachu can actually put a fight. --77.255.122.21 02:46, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  11. I'm gonna vote for Pikachu because he's actually, you know, good. Hawk 21 (talk) 06:25, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  12. Pikachu is just way cooler. It is the evolution of Pichu so it is obviously stronger too. Pikachu is also my fav character in brawl. PIKA PIKA PIKACHU!Tjahyadi (talk) 06:37, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  13. Dude. The reason why Pikachu is the highest on the SSB tier list is because it is the best character of all! ..... (talk) 08:42, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  14. Pikachu is one of my characters in ALL three games. I'd have to be mad to give up Pikachu to Pichu. Pika! 217.42.40.98 12:01, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  15. Pikachu > Pichu --204.191.132.110 15:19, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  16. Although Melee Pichu is Pikachu of Brawl, this fight is about Melee Pikachu vs Pichu so Pikachu wins my vote. Zero (talk) 16:20, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  17. It is altogether the 1st or 2nd best chatictar all time Jt45fan (talk) 09:51, 14 February 2011 (EST)
  18. Definately better that Pichu. After all, Pichu is a Baby Pokemon, and has a little trouble controling its abilities. (Besides, Pichu isn't in Brawl, and I have never played anything but Brawl, so I don't have any love for it.) Critical Hit, and... KO! 15:05, 16 February 2011 (EST)
  19. NO doubt pikachu is the best Ktnt (talk) 11:39, 16 February 2011 (EST)
  20. Pikachu is awesome. In super smash bros. and in pokemon Floor2000x (talk) 17:13, 16 February 2011 (EST)
  21. Better spikes and doesn't take damage from most attacks. Doc King (talk) 06:16, 18 February 2011 (EST)
  22. PI-KA-CHUUUU!!!!!!! 67.161.169.125 10:51, 18 February 2011 (EST)

Half votes

  1. Pichu sucks compaired to pikachu`s awesome might! `caus I`m voting for PIKACHU !!!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.195.73.249 (talk • contribs) 6:34, February 11, 2011
  2. pikachu because he doesen't kill himself like pichu does i mean who the crap does that?!!!!!!~BigBlue321—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 6:53, February 12, 2011
  3. Pika pika Pikachu! pikachu started in ssb, to ssbm, to ssbb! of course he isn't my favourite pokemon (Jirachi!). pichu is too tiny and try of cute and... just... just a smaller version of pikachu and raichu. in brawl lucario is better, but in melee, I like pikachu better than pichu. pikachu is more powerful than pichu... WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.91.232 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  4. pikachu is almost in every episode of pokemon;Ash's pikachu in season 1-14(just guessing) and Richie's pikachu(Sparky)is in almost every episode of Cronicles --Peach67809 (talk) 14:45, 12 February 2011 (EST)

Votes for Pichu

  1. You people do realize Pikachu in Brawl is just Pichu evolved right?-Ivy73002MS.png 19:36, 11 February 2011 (EST)
  2. Pity vote. But seriously, as a playable character, there are things about pichu which it has over pikachu. I'd tell you what they are but I haven't played melee in like months. Fuddlebob (talk) 01:28, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  3. Go Mr. Suicide! ☆The Solar Dragon☆ 03:10, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  4. Have you seen the "Go Pichu" movie on youtube?!? its hilerous! And its fun to do suicide batttles with these litttle guys. TheBioShadow (talk) 08:22, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  5. PI CHUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUUUU UUUUUUUUUUU!!! Mesprit, Uxie, Azelf. Mesuxelf 14:20, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  6. Mr. T pities da foo. 68.174.11.29 16:16, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  7. Why nobody likes Pichu?!?!, just look at him! :3 Doomolish (talk) 20:55, 12 February 2011 (EST)
  8. His power..... It is OVER 9000!!! He is so powerful he damages himself. Also, what ivy said :PVincent Tran Blorbs?Kirby-1.png 02:06, 14 February 2011 (EST)
  9. Aw, how cute! RedEgadd (talk) 21:01, 14 February 2011 (EST)
  10. That fact that he hurts himself while fighting in order to provide his foes a chance at victory proves his masculinity. HavocReaper 22:27, 15 February 2011 (EST)
  11. A) Brawl Pikachu = evolution of Pichu; B) Pichu is so manly, he not only hurts other people, he hurts himself. The White Blur, The Whitest Thing Alive

Half votes

  1. Speed over power man!- Sir Epp—Preceding unsigned comment added by SirEpp (talk • contribs) 2:57, February 17, 2011

Comments

Not even a day but Pikachu already had 4 points! This is madness!!! Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 19:52, 11 February 2011 (EST)

Don't put my vote in half-votes, I put on the ~s right after I noticed it was missing! 24.30.130.49 20:15, 11 February 2011 (EST)

You're fine. You had a half-hour to an hour to fix it, so you're okay.-Ivy73002MS.png 21:14, 11 February 2011 (EST)
Can someone fix the boxes. Pikachu is to big.LordNock (the guy with the pie) (talk) 21:51, 11 February 2011 (EST)

Only the second day into the fight and the scores are 16 to 4. Does Pichu even stand a chance? 217.42.40.98 12:05, 12 February 2011 (EST)

Ivy73, sorry to burst your bubble, but the thing about Brawl Pikachu being the evolved Melee Pichu is just speculation. BrawlingbrianFalcoHead.png LANDMASTER! 17:10, 12 February 2011 (EST)

I know that. I'm not stupid, just making a joke. > [1]. -Ivy73002MS.png 18:03, 12 February 2011 (EST)
Is this why Pikachu is in melee appearance for this match? ..... (talk) 18:20, 12 February 2011 (EST)
Anyway are you sure about this match, Toomai? Is it even a good match? Can there be a better match? ..... (talk) 18:30, 12 February 2011 (EST)
Yeah, this isn't the best bout. But Pichu was the only Smasher to not have been in one yet, and you have to have some boring fights now and then or you run out of good ones faster. Toomai Glittershine ??? The Ghostbuster 19:09, 12 February 2011 (EST)
I agree with Ivy, I mean, why else would Pikachu have Volt Tackle and the goggles costume in Brawl?198.166.220.113 10:59, 14 February 2011 (EST)

Day by day, Smash Arena's Ratio is getting WORSE Lucasthe fourthLt4 sign.jpg 00:13, 13 February 2011 (EST)

I hope the next smash arena battle is unpredictable in winnings! We're always already know who will win... This is useless... This is no use!Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 02:09, 14 February 2011 (EST)
*sigh* I know Lucasthe fourthLt4 sign.jpg 06:46, 14 February 2011 (EST)

We need a better matchup than something like this...first Mario and G&W, second the Shaydas and Armights, and now Pikachu VS Pichu...All three have crazy ratios. I hope the next match is a tie.24.30.130.49 10:50, 14 February 2011 (EST)

Yeah. Pikachu vs. Pichu is not an exciting match because we already know who's going to win (everybody hates Pichu for some reason). We needed a round that is more exiting and with a match that everyone is dying to see who going to win and unpredictable match.

..... (talk) 18:42, 14 February 2011 (EST)

Honestly, I'm thinking about suggestions again, unfortunately it's closed!Lucasthe fourthLt4 sign.jpg 23:43, 14 February 2011 (EST)
If Pichu wins then I would not believe that someone made a come back. ..... (talk) 20:56, 15 February 2011 (EST)

I'm checking this Smash Arena just for seeing Pikachu got score double than Pichu... *yawn* We don't even need a week for waiting the winner... And same with Lt4, I also had a suggestion too! And, we need stage battle again, I think... Kirbythe KirbyHeadSSBB.png Amazing 03:00, 16 February 2011 (EST)

To Lucasthefourth, the reason why suggestions are closed is because there are too many of them. ..... (talk) 17:51, 16 February 2011 (EST)
I know, and if you want to put a comment to me, put it under my post, instead of Kirbytheamazing post Lucasthe fourthLt4 sign.jpg 00:01, 17 February 2011 (EST)
I'm thinking the same thing too. But we got to deal with it. ..... (talk) 17:49, 17 February 2011 (EST)
Sigh.... I wish for a better match. ..... (talk) 19:49, 17 February 2011 (EST)

Come on, Pichu Fans!!! We can still win this!!!! Well... not really, but can Pichu still win for having less half-votes? Fuddlebob (talk) 02:16, 18 February 2011 (EST)

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