Forum talk:Smash Arena/Archive 1

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A 0 vote rule

If they post something below or above the <-DO NOT blah blah blah-> when it tells them not to, make it a 0 count. I'm sick of it. Who can't read that? If you're blind, you can't find this place, let alone vote.--MegaTron1XD:p 22:18, 14 November 2010 (EST)

If things continue to be bad after a few rounds of the half-vote rule, then I'll consider it. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 23:46, 14 November 2010 (EST)

A 1/2 vote rule

I like Mega's idea somewhat, but feel a 0 vote is a little too harsh. Perhaps we can make a rule, just like his guidelines, but instead it will count as half a vote.-Ivy73002MS.png 20:56, 16 November 2010 (EST)

Umm, Ivy, can you read? That's happening NEXT round and I'm aware of that :/--MegaTron1XD:p 21:05, 16 November 2010 (EST)

Sorry. I guess that's what Toomai said. Why do I always make an *** out of myself? -Ivy73002MS.png 21:09, 16 November 2010 (EST)

Half vote section?

What are you talking about?--MegaTron1XD:p 18:50, 19 November 2010 (EST)

The first time a vote has to be made into a half-vote, a section labelled "Half-Votes" will be added to the coloured block in the same way as the Anonymous Votes sections in old fights (have a look at the first few archive pages). Toomai Glittershine Data Node 18:56, 19 November 2010 (EST)

Change?

Can we change our vote? I didn't, nor do I want to, but I'm just wondering. --Landfish7 21:41, 21 November 2010 (EST)

People have changed their votes before (I think); there's nothing wrong with it. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 22:34, 21 November 2010 (EST)

Irritation

Do people just not respect votes that break rules, or is there an invisible consensus going around that an hour of a fix period is too long? Toomai Glittershine Data Node 09:44, 12 December 2010 (EST)

I gave about a half hour for Zero to fix it, and when that time came, I noticed he wasn't online anymore, so I moved it to the half vote section without having to wait another half hour when the user in question was likely to not show back up. And my intuition proved correct as I have not seen him since.
As for the length of time, a half hour to an hour is good enough. After a half hour has passed, and the user in question isn't online, I think it's alright to move the vote to the half vote section, as them leaving after misplacing their vote shows they really didn't care about it.
So overall, I don't think an hour is too long to wait, but a half hour should be enough time for someone to fix their vote if they really care to do so. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 09:55, 12 December 2010 (EST)
I'm mostly talking about people who only give ten minutes or so, but I agree with your general sentiment. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 13:00, 12 December 2010 (EST)

Comments

Could we perhaps have in the rules a guideline for what isn't acceptable to post in the comments section? Such as, some users seem to take the SA too seriously, and try to argue with someone on the other side for something they said. And with the SA being something for fun (and really nothing more), this detracts from it and has the potential to disrupt others. The Mario and Dr. Mario matchup experienced the beginning of an argument that had the potential to grow rapidly, but it was ended before it could escalate. The last matchup had argumentative statements aimed at other users, though they fortunately failed to cause anything more than a minor defensive response. And once again in this matchup, Doc King made an accusative claim towards an opposing side that could elicit a response and cause an unnecessary argument in the comments (or judging by the nature of the comment, a response from someone who doesn't even participate in the Smash Arena).

So basically, I suggest a guideline recommending people to not post argumentative or accusative claims towards someone else/the opposing side in the comments section. While arguments in the Smash Arena have been uncommon in the past, the surging popularity of the Smash Arena has led to, among many things, an increase in argumentative statements in the comments sections, and I wouldn't be surprised if two people who took the Smash Arena seriously started wall of texting against each other on the Smash Arena. Which of course, I doubt any of us would want here, and it would disrupt the Smash Arena, as well as the Wiki. While a guideline recommended this may not stop people from posting such (as we see the other rules broken often), it would allow someone else to step in and stop the potential argument with something in the rules backing them up (therefore, the one who posted the argumentative statement can't claim they can do such because nothing says they can't).

So, is this idea feasible? Does this recommendation not have enough historical backing to be put in the rules? Or is this recommendation simply too restrictive on the users who participate in the Smash Arena? Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 11:51, 12 December 2010 (EST)

I was thinking about a sort of "don't post comments if it might start an argument" rule; maybe I'll have a more solid idea later. Toomai Glittershine Data Node 13:00, 12 December 2010 (EST)
How about rule seven reads "Any comments about the fight should be left in the comment section. It is recommended that you do not post argumentative, accusative, or any sort of comment with the intention of starting an argument with someone on the opposing side. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest, there's no need to argue with the other side on why your favorite character is superior, or why they are wrong with their reasoning for picking their character."
If needed, the wording can be made stronger or softer, and the wording about the Smash Arena itself can be taken out. Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:51, 12 December 2010 (EST)

Bump Omega Tyrant TyranitarMS.png 23:21, 20 December 2010 (EST)

Execptions?

The first time around, the vote was signed. This time around, it wasn't. Should it be a half vote or not?--MegaTron1XD:p 11:26, 18 December 2010 (EST)

Falcon

I'm glad he's finally lost one. I love the guy as much as anyone, but it's just unfair with him winning every single match in the SA. Mr. Anon (talk) 20:08, 20 December 2010 (EST)

IP spamming

I'm thinking that the IP spamming is caused by the direct link from the main page. If the SA box were changed to go to Forum:Smash Arena instead, it would probably redirect the spamming there (the page can then be safely protected since voters never edit it), but it would cause users to take a two-link path to get to the arena itself. Opinions? Toomai Glittershine ??? The Incomprehensible 08:49, 28 December 2010 (EST)

Redirect the page to avoid the spamming. Better to take a little more time to keep the Wiki "clean" so to speak.MegaTron1XD:p 10:12, 28 December 2010 (EST)