Talk:Mario

Right, so this is a page that I made per this and this proposal. Tell me what you think of this. What the page needs are a picture of Mario as he appears outside the Smash games (probably the picture of Mario on Wikipedia's article) at the introduction of the article and small images of the trophies. Basically, if all non-gameplay-specific pages about fictional properties are structured like this (introduces the character/location/item and notes its every appearance throughout the Smash Bros. series, with appropriate Main Article links to gameplay pages throughout) so that they're essentially giant fancy disambiguation pages, we're allowing for the future better. Erik the Appreciator 13:08, June 23, 2007 (EDT)

This is excellent. I am 100% for doing this to all the other relevant pages. I don't know if I'd be any good at an article this epic, but I'll see how I can contribute.-Thores 19:27, June 23, 2007 (EDT)

So I just rewrote Super Scope as a further example... Thanks for offering to help out. What I would suggest doing is going through each general name of a character or object and start off all the relevant sections, so that they can be filled up by everyone else over time. For example: At Kensuke Kimachi, start off with a short intro, then a Character description section with a sentence or two about him, then start the In SSBM section with a description of his trophy. Since that was his only appearance, and that trophy shares his name, cover the trophy there in full, and make Kensuke Kimachi (trophy) a section redirect. (Section redirects and links are key to this article structure concept, so that if some other article has a link to Super Scope specifically for the purpose of describing it as a Melee item, that link can point to the As an item section in the Super Scope page, so the reader doesn't get confused by all the content.) Erik the Appreciator 17:31, June 24, 2007 (EDT)

I do like the idea. I can help with some of the small characters like ReDead and Ridley. -- The Magnum Master 19:34, June 24, 2007 (EDT)

You know how I said that I wasn't sure if I was going to contribute in this fashion to a subject as ambitious as Mario? Well, that was a slight fib. I just completed work on the Pikachu page, using this article as a guideline. My extensive knowledge of the Smash series is rustier than I realized, so please look it over and if I made any mistakes feel free to fix it as much as you wish. -Thores 07:32, June 25, 2007 (EDT)

Whoa, that looks like a page I edited. :D That's great, though it looks like we'll need to convince AltAcnt that this is a valid effort with consensus behind it... Erik the Appreciator 13:25, June 25, 2007 (EDT)

Looking through the character description section of Pikachu, it has all the history of Pikachu, but I would also suggest using that section to describe what Pikachu is physically like in the Pokemon games and other media he appears in, because that can also help readers understand Pikachu as a character. By that I mean there should also be a paragraph about Pikachu's biological characteristics, with info coming from the Pokedex descriptions. Pikachu has a famous role in the Pokemon cartoon, so you should make a note somewhere that a Pikachu belongs to trainer Ash Ketchum. Other than that, the page looks great.

If you're making character pages like I am, we should make sure we don't both create a write-up for the same character at the same time so that one of ours goes to waste. Hopefully you weren't making Marth because I just made that. :) We should lay out who's going to do which character so that there won't be any overlapping. I hope and plan to make Roy, Mewtwo, Solid Snake, Samus, Fox, Captain Falcon, and Ness for starters. What characters'll you be doing, or are there any characters you'd like me to do instead? Erik the Appreciator 23:59, June 25, 2007 (EDT)

The Pikachu article seriously knocked the freaking wind out of me. I'd like to make more of these, but I think I'm gonna take a break before making a huge damn character article again. However, since initially I wasn't even planning to do the Pikachu one, I might get over this sooner than I think. So when I do decide I'm ready to make more, I'll tell you which ones on either this page or your talk page. You working on the aforementioned characters is fine, though, and I'll leave them alone for you to complete. I'm kinda thinking about working on Jigglypuff, Wario, or Donkey Kong next. -Thores 00:07, June 26, 2007 (EDT)

Oh, and the suggestions for the Pikachu article are good ideas, I'll work on implementing those in a bit. -Thores 00:08, June 26, 2007 (EDT)

One thing I'll need feedback on: Each of these character pages will need an image of some sort at the top, and if it were easy all the way I would put in the official character art of that character from outside the Smash series, an example being the stylish Amano art for Solid Snake on his Wikipedia article. Does anyone think I should upload the first images on the Wikipedia articles of Mario, Pikachu, and Marth into these pages? Or is it better to post a copy of their Brawl or Melee image (whichever is most recent) at the top of each page, fully sized? Erik the Appreciator 14:51, June 26, 2007 (EDT)

I went ahead and put official art in, so now you'll be able to see what it's like for real. I think it works well. Erik the Appreciator 15:51, June 26, 2007 (EDT)

Hm, I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand, intro images are a great idea, and having two instances of the same Melee or Brawl profile picture is redundant. At the same time, something about having non-Smash artwork there just seems a bit off. It works, though, so I'm fine with it.-Thores 17:55, June 26, 2007 (EDT)

I have a feeling this got overshadowed by the latest Dojo update, but I just finished work on the Wario page. It still needs some images that I couldn't find (and legally take). Feel free to look it over and all that.-Thores 03:44, July 20, 2007 (EDT)