Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions

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NOTE: Do NOT edit each section individually. Edit the entire page as a whole if you are going to be commenting on more than one suggestion.

This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reasons why you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash.

Rules

• The SA runners have final say over all the fights.
• Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
• Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
• Do not post more that one fight at a time; about one week between suggestions is fine.
• Post WHY you support/oppose. Don't say, "Oh, Link is much better than Snake"! Explain why you like the fight.
• You can remove your own suggestion, but this doesn't mean you can immediately replace it.
• Place new suggestions at THE BOTTOM of page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
• Do NOT use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like "That's so stupid" that could potentially start an argument in the Comments, you are breaching the rule.
• The comments section is to be used for relevant comments.
• Check this list to view any fights that have been done; currently no repeat fights are permitted.
• If a fight you suggested is removed, do not repost it. Either it was removed because it was deemed to not have enough support to be used, or it was removed because it has been placed into the queue. You may repost a failed fight if it has been some time since it was rejected.
• Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
• And finally, do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.

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Suggestions

Remember, New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page.

Link vs. Samus

A young skilled swordsman with a sword, shield, and a large amount of weapons against a young woman with a technological exoskeleton at her disposal--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 21:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Well, the battle description needs a major rewrite, but I think this will turn out to be quite an interesting battle…the new vs. the old, among other things. RAN1 03:38, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
2. Their specials are very similar, they're one of the originals, let's give this a chance. HavocReaper48 00:30, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
3. The two biggest projectile users in the series plus they are more than cabaple of fighting up close (at least they could in Melee). Very good matchup.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Have nothing in common. 98.117.158.220 03:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
2. Doesn't appeal to me. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 07:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

• I would like to counter the first opposition,

1.They are both projectile smashers.

2. Both have appeared in all three SSB games.

3. Both have varations, Link and Toon Link, Samus and Zero Suit Samus

Also I'm also open to any new battle description--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 04:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

You would have better time saying that Link and mario would be a better battle. "They are both projectile smashers", "Both have appeared in all three SSB games", and they both also have variations, Toon Link and Dr. Mario. Toon Link cannot be compared to Zamus. At all. The only three things I see in common are

1. The both have recoveries that involve spinning
2. They both have tethers as grabs

That's all. They're games are different, Metroid being an FPS while LoZ being an RPG. Different personalities, Samus being a bounty hunter while Link being... an explorer? Only suggest something if it's very similar or "parallel"- like Master Hand and Crazy hand. 98.117.158.220 05:28, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Link versus Samus is much more original than Link versus Mario and both their first games were non-linear, also the point is that they are near polar opposites, One is more medieval era and one is futuristic, not to mention they are of about the same age and of different genders. (That is not meant to be takin as a sexist comment.) They were both created to attract a wider fanbase, Link as an RPG and Samus as an First Person shooter. You yourself, have even mentioned two more similiarties. They also both have their own loyal fanbase. Anything else?--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 01:08, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

For the sake of accuracy, the Metroid series is not an FPS. That's the Prime series. I doubt anyone would call Metroid Fusion an FPS. RAN1 01:21, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Pikmin is futuristic and has a loyal fanbase, but does that mean that Zelda and Pikmin are similar? of course not. Metroid was originaly a sidescroller, Legend of Zelda was not. And them being different genders means nothing. And they are not the same age. Link is a teenages/ young boy and Samus is an adult. Link refers to many people. Samus refers to one. LoZ is not Midevil; they have trains. And their attacks are not similar at the least. 98.117.158.220 02:14, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

For the sake of my sanity let us refer to Link as the one who appears in Twilight Princess, Since that is the Link the SSBB on is based off of. Pikmin is more cormmical, Zelda and Metroid series have more serious themes to them. Metroid was created from the non-linearity of The Legend of Zelda series and the side-scrolling of Mario. Link is of about the age of 18, no more. Samus is about the age of her younger twenties (???). Pretty close age group. In Twilight Princess, it is obviously medieval there are no trains. Once more with the attacks, projectile smashers, spinning recovery, they grab with an item allowing farther range, and they're arrow/charge shot can be powered up depending on how long you hold the button. Anymore comments? :P--Power courage wisdom and time (talk) 23:02, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Look. This has gone far enough. It is his personal opinion that they have nothing in common. Others may feel that but there will be some who agree with you. It is the same on lots of battles here. There is no need for an argument about it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 07:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Pikachu vs Jigglypuff

Battle of the original Pokémon in the Super Smash Bros. series. Pikachu, the electric mouse vs. Jigglypuff, the pink ball. Both were in from the start, rivaling each other as the best Pokémon. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 14:17, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. They're smash veterans and they're of the original 150, why not? HavocReaper'48 19:25, April 11, 2010 (UTC)
2. Don't mind this idea 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Just because they were the two playable pokemon in the original doesn't mean this will be a good matchup, especially since Jigglypuff shouldn't have been in Smash Bros. in the first place (Mewtwo should have been in both the first SSB and in Brawl instead of Jigglypuff). Also, Pikachu and Jigglypuff are far, far , FAR from being even close to being the best pokemon.Omega Tyrant 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

• For the person who removed this, why? It has not been done before. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 18:05, March 13, 2010 (UTC)

Shadow vs Grey Fox

Sonic and Snake have fought and Sonic won. This time, their rivals are gonna fight. Who will be the winner? The rival of Sonic, who has Chaos powers, or the rival of Snake, who is a master at hand to hand combat? --Megatron1 (talk) 22:23, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. This is a good matchup, a battle between the third party assist trophies. Omega Tyrant 23:15, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
2. See above. --HavocReaper'48 01:48, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
3. Would be a good fight. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 11:51, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
4. rival fight--99.75.103.212 00:00, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
5. I'm all for it 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Latios and Latias vs. Kat and Ana

Two teams of two. Latios and Latias - The Pokemon from Pokeballs vs. Kat and Ana - The ninjas from an Assist Trophy. Both have very similar effects but which is best? ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 11:54, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. I'll support this fight, even though the winner is rather obvious. They are similar so this a pretty good matchup. Omega Tyrant 14:15, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
2. Many times, I couldn't tell which one it was. 98.111.95.78 16:16, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
3. I like the idea. --HavocReaper'48 16:55, April 24, 2010 (UTC)
4. This could settle the pokemon vs assist trophies thing.--Megatron1 (talk) 04:01, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
5. They do practically the same thing so its evnly matched. SmashShadic 15:38, April 26 2010 (UTC)
6. It'd be like a 2 on 2 battle 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Falcon Punch vs. Warlock Punch

You all knew this was coming. Captain Falcon pulled a manly and quick win in Round 47, but now, whose epic punch will win? We've all seen them parodied, meme-fied, and given epic combos/moments throughout the Smash community and YouTube, but now it's ultimately up to the SA to decide which is better. --HavocReaper'48 02:54, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Surely these punches would have to square off sooner or later. Plus, there haven't been an attack matchup yet in the Smash Arena. A somewhat obvious, but great matchup. Omega Tyrant 03:05, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
2. Good matchup, but I don't know how it would appear in the arena. 98.111.95.78 03:42, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
3. Although I think it is too similar, I will borderline Support it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 08:51, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
4. Good matchup, but how does it appear in the arena?--Megatron1 (talk) 04:37, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
5. I'd like to see how this would turn out 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. ....

Green Hill Zone vs 75m

Sonic and Mario have been good rivals since they debut and even fought before in the Smash Arena, with Mario being the winner. This time, the game stages they debuted in are going to fight. Which stage will win, Green Hill Zone, which started the Sonic Franchise and has the deadly signpost, or 75M, (which tecnically isn't the debut stage but is one of the levels from the game) which started the Mario Franchise and has Donkey Kong?--Megatron1 (talk) 14:01, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. The battle of the two retro stages! Good idea. --HavocReaper'48 15:52, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
2. Will be good. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 16:11, April 25, 2010 (UTC)
3. mario and sonic stages--99.75.103.212 00:00, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
4. Interesting 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Comment

Also, Megatron1:SW:SIGN, please take note of it, your sig is violating policy. --HavocReaper'48 15:52, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

Lugia (SSBM) vs. Kyogre (SSBB)

Lugia was arguably the best pokemon in Melee, being capable of OHKOing anything with its aeroblast. Even simply touching it could KO at shockingly low percentages. Kyogre is arguably the best pokemon in Brawl, being much more than just a bigger water gun. It relentlessly follows and hydro pumps the opponent away until they are dead. If Kyogre locks on to you, even if you're Meta Knight, you're basically dead unless you are playing in a ridiculously large stage. Both pokemon have the ability to KO anyone at 0% and they are even capable of KOing the same opponent twice. But who will go down in Smash Bros. history as the greatest pokeball pokemon of all time? Omega Tyrant 15:46, April 26, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Both are legendary mascots of their games, respectively, and both have aquatic abilities that include swimming and Hydro Pump. I like this idea. Oh, and Lugia (SSBB)*. BNK ^[E|T|C] 22:12, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
2. Pokémon Soulsilver and Sapphire are awesome, and so is this suggestion. --HavocReaper'48 22:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
3. 2 pokemon that can OHKO if you aren't skilled enough to dodge it.--Megatron1 (talk) 00:03, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
4. Would be an interesting battle 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I don't see too many similarities apart from the fact they both own every one. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 20:36, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
2. Sorry, but Kyogre (the whale one, right?) never seemed to damage me much. It's pretty easy to dodge, at least for me. I've never played melee, but I'm guessing Lugia is much more powerful there. 98.111.95.78 00:02, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Comment

• It is specifically Lugia from Melee since Lugia was nerfed in every aspect in Brawl and this is supposed to be a battle between the best pokeball pokemon of their respective games. Omega Tyrant 22:51, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
  • But that throws everything off balance. :( BNK ^[E|T|C] 22:55, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
    • And how is that? We could use more Melee vs. Brawl matchups. Omega Tyrant 23:22, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
      • Lugia is in Brawl! BNK ^[E|T|C] 23:49, April 26, 2010 (UTC)
        • I know that, but this is a Melee vs. Brawl matchup. In my opinion, Lugia was the best pokemon in Melee and Kyogre is the best pokemon in Brawl. Therefore, this is a matchup to see who was the best pokeball pokemon in the SSB series. Omega Tyrant 00:02, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Peach vs. Bowser

Peach, sick of being kidnapped all the time by an oversized turtle, has stepped up to the arena. Will the parasol-weilding princess pull through, or will Mario have to take her home in a plastic baggie this time?

Support

1. Villians never think about this situation.--Megatron1 (talk) 22:49, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
2. A big bad monster vs a Damsel in distress? I like the idea of Peach's revenge. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 05:31, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
3. Cool idea! --HavocReaper'48 02:46, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
4. I don't see why not 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I'll have to oppose, there are many good suggestions lately and this is certainly the lesser of them. Omega Tyrant 01:25, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Bowser vs. King Dedede

One is known as the King of Koopas, the other is known as the King of Dreamland. Both kings command massive armies of ineffective minions. Both kings are greedy and out of shape. Both kings are not always serious and sometimes play more of a comedic role rather than a villainous one. Both kings also have forward smashes of extreme power, which were also each the strongest smash attack in Smash Brothers at one time (Bowser in Melee, King Dedede in Brawl). But which king is superior and have the king of forward smashes; is it the fire breathing mutated koopa or the jolly hammer wielding penguin? Omega Tyrant 21:03, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Now that's a good suggestion. --HavocReaper'48 21:39, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
2. Seems a good idea. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 11:39, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
3. Good idea.--Megatron1 (talk) 01:30, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Auroros vs Koopa

These two enemies both appear in Subspace Emissary and can become items, but who will be the dominant enemy? Will it be the flying Auroros from Subspace? Or will it be the Koopa, famed for it's shell and appearance in Bowser's army? --Megatron1 (talk) 22:42, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. They're pretty annoying as well. --HavocReaper'48 02:46, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. I don't really like it and they don't appear to have too many similarities other than that. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 13:40, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
2. Use an enemy from a non-smash game and this idea would be good 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Tails vs Luigi

These two allies of Sonic and Mario (respectivley) have had small roles in the past and bigger ones now. Which of these 2 will win? Tails, the flying fox who helps Sonic, or will Luigi, the brother of Mario who posseses the same skils as Mario.--Megatron1 (talk) 13:48, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Good idea 220.253.193.221 09:15, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
2. Me too. --HavocReaper'48 21:39, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. You can play as Luigi. You can't play as Tails. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 05:40, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
2. I'll have to oppose, they don't play the same role. Luigi isn't Mario's sidekick and never played a supportive role in any Mario game with the exception of Super Mario Galaxy. Even then, he was playable in it in his own (very slightly different) story. Omega Tyrant 03:45, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
3. Agreed with everyone above. Mr. Anon (talk) 19:46, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Amy Rose vs Peach

Sonic's and Mario's girls. Who will come out victorious, Amy, the pink- haired hedgehog, or Peach, the pink princess. Will it be team Mario or Team Sonic in the end?

Oppose

1. Oppose: Just like the above fight, they do not have similar roles. You do not have to rescue Amy Rose in any of the Sonic Games. Mr. Anon (talk) 19:47, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
2. Same reason as above, but these two are also the Sonic and Mario character I loath the most. I just really can't stand either of them and I believe it would be a waste of a fight with these two. Omega Tyrant 19:55, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
3. Peach is playable. Amy isn't even an assist trophy and is unplayable. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 20:48, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
4. Amy really only appeared as a trophy in Smash Bros., compared to Peach's installment a playable character in two games, so... --HavocReaper'48 21:05, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
5. My idea got rejected and it's like this one.--Megatron1 (talk) 00:38, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ness vs Captain Falcon

I don't know if this has been done before, but it should have. They're both unlockables in SSB, starters in Melee, and once again unlockable in Brawl. They both come from series that were not very well known (although Ness' was slightly more popular), but both are now very popular on the internet. Who will win, the psychic or the manliest man in the universe? Mr. Anon (talk) 19:52, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Well they were both rather unknown before Smash Brothers and unlike most smashers, they are such well known today because of Smash Brothers. Omega Tyrant 20:02, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
2. Any fight with Captain Falcon is automatically manly, and OT gave a pretty good reason as well . --HavocReaper'48 21:05, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
3. Mr. Anon just changed my vote by saying that.--Megatron1 (talk) 03:28, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose

1. Umm, a big, muscular man versus a small child. The big muscular man can practically kill with one punch. I don't really like it. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 20:47, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
2. Bad. BNK ^[E|T|C] 22:33, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

I know at first Ness looks wimpy, but that's kinda part of his charm. He looks like some little kid, but then his pyschic powers devastate you. Mr. Anon (talk) 02:25, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Barbara vs Konga Beat

These 2 skills have the same effect, but which music attack will win?--Megatron1 (talk) 02:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. Hmm, an assistat trophy versus attack but strangely, I will support this. ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 15:32, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
2. WHat SG said, they function similar and they both have good music. --REAPER OF HAVOC'48 00:52, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Roy vs Marth

These 2 Fire Emblem stars have debuted in the Smash Series in SSBM. After being removed, Roy has decided to fight Marth to see who is better and who deserves to appear in the next SSB game. Who will win?--Megatron1 (talk) 01:01, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Support

1. There was a Roy vs. Ike, but now Roy must face his own clone in the SA! Good idea. --REAPER OF HAVOC'48 01:03, May 26, 2010 (UTC)
2. Why hasn't this been yet? ☆The Solar Dragon ^(Talk)☆ 06:08, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Palutena's Army vs Waddle Dee Army

After seeing Pit use his Final Smash, King Dedede has decided to get his army to duke it out with Palutena's. Whose army will win in the end?--Megatron1 (talk) 16:26, May 31, 2010 (UTC)