Talk:Lucario (SSBB)

Unlockable?

I'm putting this discussion both here and in the Jigglypuff article, since it concerns both Jigglypuff and Lucario. I know that it may be considered unorthodox to rely on Serebii.net; however, Serebii said this on the site: "As you can see, it has Pikachu, it has Pokemon Trainer and two others. They are Lucario & Jigglypuff. Both playable characters in Super Smash Bros. Brawl... How are they unlocked? Well you have to wait and see." It would seem Serebii let slip that both of them are unlockable. Teamrocketspy621 14:50, January 21, 2008 (EST)

If Lucario is the 'NEW' Mewtwo in Brawl, then wouldn't Lucario be unlockable, I think its very likely he will be. Plus Jigglypuff has always been an unlockable so it should be no different this time around right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigJohnno (talk • contribs) 09:57, 24 January 2008 (EST)

@TRS: I'd say we should await official confirmation before changing anything.

@BigJohnno: Seeing as how there's only be two entries in the SSB series thus far, we can't go around declaring any trends. Just because Jigglypuff was unlockable in the first game doesn't mean that she will be for a third time. – EP (Talk • Edits) 09:43, January 24, 2008 (EST)

I'm not saying it has to be unlockable I'm just guessing, the games coming out in Japan in a week anyway so we'll just wait and see.BigJohnno —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigJohnno (talk • contribs) 01:44, 25 January 2008 (EST)

I think it's safe to say Lucario, and anyone not "officially confirmed" on the dojo are not starters. Sakurai himself stated that everyone confirmed on the dojo at the moment (minus Snake and Sonic) are starters. So we can put Lucario as a unlockable/hidden character. ;) Johnknight1 01:12, January 27, 2008 (EST)

Dragon Pulse

Actually I have a Lucario Lvl 100 which learnt Dragon Pulse at Lvl 47, by Lvling up, just look on Serebii.net. If you you really knew Lucario Crystal Lucario, you would have known that.—Preceding unsigned comment added by BigJohnno (talk • contribs) 08:13, 31 January 2008 (EST)

-_- What I meant was when you think of it you wouldn;t go aura pokemon....hmmm...what can that learn...I know Aura Beam, Aura sphere and fighting moves. Most people just dont go lucario=dragonpulse. anway two things to say to you A dont add speculation B. Sign your posts! ~Crystal_Lucario 07:24, January 31, 2008 (EST)

You don't seem to know much About Pokemon, Crystal Lucario, there is no such thing as "Aura Beam". You're thinking of Aurora Beam, an ice type move based on the Northern Lights, The Aurora Borealis. Lucario doesn't even learn that move. Most likely it is either Dragon Pulse Flash Canon (Steel Type Projectyle), Focus Blast (Fighting Type Projectile), or, as the previous version suggested, Dragon Pulse. ~The Adder 10:34, January 31, 2008 (EST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Adder (talk • contribs) 10:34, 31 January 2008 (EST)

It's very likely either Focus Blast or Flash Cannon. Both are same-type attacks that do immense damage and would fit "giant death ray kamehamea".

OMG I don't read seribii all day and it can be tutored(?) or so I have heard and just stop adding all this junk. ~Crystal_Lucario 07:14, February 1, 2008 (EST)

hey, you're all forgetting that Smash Bros is not a canon game. Sheik is not in Twilight Princess, Ness never uses most of his PK moves in Earthbound, and Goldeen isn't useless in Pokemon games. seriously, stop bickering. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 07:16, February 1, 2008 (EST)

And apparently Lucas doesn't use ANY of his PSI/PK Specials in Mother 3. At least Ness got PK Flash...Would it really have been so hard to make their specials "PK Rockin/Love"? Ah well.

Good point like pika's thunderjolt... ~Crystal_Lucario 07:57, February 1, 2008 (EST)

Nice save with that one FyreNWater. I should delete this section though....no real importance to it. Anyone disagree?--Oxico 10:38, February 2, 2008 (EST)

naw, i think talk pages stay as-is for future reference. this argument is bound to reappear... FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 19:35, February 2, 2008 (EST)

I wasnt wrong... new move...

~Crystal_Lucario 15:57, February 16, 2008 (EST)

STOP FREAKIN SPECULATING

STOP FREAKIN SPECULATING ON MOVE NAMES I MEAN REALLY! YOU CANT SPECULATE THAT LUCARIO FINALSMASH IS AURASTORM LIKE ON THE TROPHY BUT YOU CAN ON SPECIAL MOVES??? ~Crystal_Lucario 07:18, February 20, 2008 (EST)

whoa, chill out. if anyone continues speculation, just report them to an admin. they'll take the steps to warn or temporary block them. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 16:07, February 20, 2008 (EST)

I thought everything was already being tentatively called by those names, my bad O_O *runs from wrath* NeonCrusader 18:52, February 20, 2008 (EST)

move names

see, now that Dojo released the official names, you can put them up. before that happens, do not speculate. even if you heard that someone who played the game and translated it from Japanese, we still need the official word from Dojo/Nintendo before we go around making these changes. FyreNWater - (Talk • Contributions ) 03:29, February 28, 2008 (EST)

Double team properties

I added a comment regarding Lucario's ability to double team and negate many final smashes. By negate, i mean it completely cancels it. Vs marth for example, it stops him dead in his tracks. I have written a guide on other websites detailing how to avoid many final smashes in the game. should i link to it from here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.173.110 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

1.)Sign your comment with ~~~~ 2.)Naw, just add some infromation on it on the page ~CrystalLucario~ ~Guardian of aura~ ~Protector of the Sacred Crystals~ 11:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

The Strategies Section...

. . .really needs to be cleaned up. Half of the info is obvious, and the rest isn't that great. -Posted by Pikamander2 (Talk) at 17:28, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I reworded the strategies section so that it has more professional info in it. I tried to add some actual strategies and tips to the obvious information so that it was actually strategies being posted, and I made it as gramatically correct as I know how to do. Unfortunately, I am not a big Lucario player, but I frequently play against a friend who is a very skilled Lucario main. That being said, my strategies may not be the best, so if someone can think of ways to improve on them, please do so. -Posted by Reaper Fan (Sorry about the signing, this is my first time on a talk page and I don't know all the patterns yet) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Reaper Fan (talk • contribs) 05:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Psychic Lucario???

Lucario, despite being able to use Psychic in the Diamond and Pearl games, does not actually use telekinesis in any of its other appearances. This includes all throws, as well as its voice, which, in the movie, was shown to be one of the powers of Aura. - Gargomon251 09:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I know what you're saying. I mean, even Electabuzz can learn Psychic.SonicROBTrainer (talk) 00:56, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

In the anime, Psychic and Confusion, when used by a non-Psychic type, tends to be shown as a wave of Psychic energy rather than a telekinetic grip.

In the anime, Water Gun is as powerful as a fire hose. What's your point? - Gargomon251 (talk) 23:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Tier

What do you think will Lucario's tier be? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.54.112.74 (talk • contribs) 09:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Mid or High. Most likely High. Rexdawn 19:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

High? I'm leaning more towards middle. - 70.253.174.246 23:00, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I say high, but not near the top of it.

Recruiting

OK all who are willing. I need lots of help. I need all the moveset to look all alike. I need people willing to help! If you choose to accept this challenge, use Meta Knight's moveset as a perfect example. If you want to help the cause, leave your username under the category on my userpage called "Recruiting". This message is also there. Let's fix these movesets. --Oxico (talk) 20:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

He

LISTEN to it's voice. He is obviously a boy. And by the way, Pokemon are NOT genderless. Pick up a Game Boy and find out. I'm gonna go through and fix all that. --Oxico

Nintendo's official policy is that all Pokémon go by gender neutral pronouns regardless of sex. All text refer to them in this way in all the games and official-related materials. Pokémon may have SEXES but they do NOT have genders. Sex and gender are not he same. "Sex" refers to reproductive organs, "gender" is how one is interpreted by society. In this case, society is Nintendo, and according to Nintendo all Pokémon are gender neutral. In order to keep this wiki professional looking we have to stay consistent with the game's officially-related materials. Granted, Snake's codec as well as one of the event descriptions do call Lucario "he", BUT the trophy descriptions, the "Dojo!!" site and all other officially-related materials say "it". Plus, the two uses of "he" aren't being ignored-- they're mentioned on Lucario (SSBB)'s trivia section. --Bman87301 (talk) 23:41, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Guess what?Pokemon are both, in games, the anime itself it is shown multiple times that the same Pokemon species can have both genders(there are some exception but they are VERY specific and Lucario has none)So we call Lucario an "it".And voice is not everything many people have voices which SOUND like the opposite gender but is completely opinion based on that. - Hatake91 (talk) 23:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure Lucario is strongly a "he", as mentioned by Solid Snake with his Snake's Codec Message. He's the same Lucario from the movie "Pokémon: Lucario and The Mystery of Mew", while the other one from the cartoons howver, is'nt, because he grunts, rather than talk. Still, he is indeed a tough character to battle. MetaCracken (talk) 15:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that it says "it" refer to all Lucario in general whilst the "he-parts" are about the fighter.

Home-run contest

Lucario seems to be at a significant disadvantage during Home-Run Contest, due to having 0% damage. Are there any special tactics that can be used? JalYt-Xil-Vimescarrot 15:26, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Spam down smash. - Hatake91 (talk) 13:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC)