User:Ultimate Toad/SSBU Missing stages

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Revision as of 06:46, October 12, 2019 by Ultimate Toad (talk | contribs) ((I wrote this page while playing Double Dash lol) So here is a (unfinished) list of the missing past stages in Ultimate. If you're interested you can read the reasons for the stage's inclusion and exclusion, plus my opinion on those stages)
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While I believe having a wide variety of characters is one of the most important aspects of Smash, I also believe stages are just as inportant, and in my opinion even more so. As you know there are only 15 stages from past Smash games that did not return in Ultimate. Whether these stages are gone for good or will return as future DLC is unknown, so I made a list showing all of the missing stages while making a brief summary about the likelyhood of the stages returning as DLC, and also a short section for why I want or don't want those stages back.

Note: Because Flat Zone 1 and Flat Zone 2 are practically merged into Flat Zone X those 2 stages are excluded from this list. Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 and B&W Dream Land GB will also be excluded due to being alternate stage layouts.

Super Smash Bros. 64

Planet Zebes

Planet Zebes
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Game Super Smash Bros. 64
Possible? Change Neutral

Resons for inclusion

Buff This is one of 2 stages from 64 to not return in Ultimate

Reasons for exclusion

Nerf The stage mechanic is identical to Brinstar and so might not make it in due to redundancy.

My opinion

This stage looks cool (mostly the background) and I prefer it over Brinstar, it was one of my favorites in 64. I would like to see this stage back even though it's similar to Brinstar, mainly due to aesthetics.

  • Do I want this stage back?: Buff Yes

Sector Z

Sector Z
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Game Super Smash Bros. 64
Possible? Change Neutral

Reasons for inclusion

Buff Same as Planet Zebes

Reasons for exclusion

Nerf Once again, same: Too similar to Corneria.

My opinion

Not much to say besides the background being cool. IfI were to choose between this and Corneria, I would've rather had this stage since Corneria was already in Brawl and for 3DS. The one problem I have with this stage is that it's too big. If it were the same size as Corneria then it would be better. Either way I like this stage a lot so...

  • Do I want this stage back?: Buff Yes

Super Smash Bros. Melee

Icicle Mountain

Icicle Mountain
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Game Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible? Nerf No

Reasons for inclusion

Buff This is the only Ice Climber stage to not return in Ultimate.

Reasons for exclusion

Nerf Then again there are only 2 IC stages, and the other one is much better.

Nerf Generally an unpopular stage.

Nerf Verticle auto-scroll stages are gone from Ultimate

My opinion

This is one of those stages that I like in silly casual matches where I exploit the AI and play survival tests. But still this stahe is really annoying and not a good stage to fight on since the scrolling speed is unpredictable, and in general the layout makes it difficult to score a KO.

  • Do I want this stage back?: Nerf No.

Mushroom Kingdom

Mushroom Kingdom
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Game Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible? Change Neutral (leaning towards likely

Reasons for inclusion

Buff Despite being similar to 64's Mushroom Kingdom, this stage has a different layout and mechanic: breakable blocks containing items

Reasons for exclusion

Nerf Even though it has the differences mentioned above, it's still almost identical and still might be redundant.

My opinion

Eh, I like this stage, but 64's is better in both layout and mechanics. The blocks make it difficult to KO due to how they are placed and generally there's nothing that interesting in this version compared to 64: 64 had funtioning pipes, POW blocks, and Piranha Plant hazards. Melee? Well you have blocks, some blocks, and more blocks... But what is fun is when the AI suddenly does nothing (as I wrote in the AI flaws page in Melee) then I also do nothing until they start moving again.

  • Do I want this stage back?:Change Neutral

Mute City

Mute City
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Game Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible? Buff Yes

Reasons for inclusion

Buff Despite being similar to Port Town Aero Drive, this stage still looks much different and would still be unique

Buff This is the only F-Zero stage That is not in Ultimate

Reasons for exclusion

Nerf Too similar to Port Town Aero Drive

My opinion

I like this stage better than Port Town. Well once again it's all mostly aesthetic. One difference is the cars have set knockback unlike in Port Town.

  • Do I want this stage back?: Buff Yes

Poke Floats

Mushroom Kingdom
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Game Super Smash Bros. Melee
Possible? Buff Yes

Reasons for inclusion

Buff LEGALIZE POKE FLOATSThis stage is surprisingally a popular pick for Melee stages

Buff This is the only Pokemon stage missing from Ultimate

Buff There's nothing redundant about this stage. The fact that Pokémon Stadium and it's clone made it in I don't see why not

Reasons for exclusion

Nerf Doesn't really represent the Pokemon universe as well anymore.

My opinion

I nicknamed this stage "Self-Destruction Floats". I loved this stage in Melee and am kinda disappointed it didn't return. What kinda bugs me is the reasons people give for why this stage didn't return.

  • Squirtle: This is a weak argument. If Squirtle being playable is the reason this stage is deconfirmed, then 75m, Port Town and Duck Hunt shouldn't have made it in either.
  • Stage morph: This is an even weaker argument. Basically they say because it's an auto-scroll there is no static platform to start on when the stage transforms. So... what about Rainbow Cruise? Stage morph seems to totally not work perfectly fine there so there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY we can't just use the Squirtle float...

Well anyway this stage is a good auto-scroll unlike Icicle Mountain: it's still playable and possible to fight on. Once again the AI also makes this stage fun because they are awful at it. (I seriously can't believe this crazy stage was once legal...)

  • Do I want this stage back?: Buff Yes

Super Smash Bros. Brawl

Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U