Talk:List of spirits (complete list)

Duplicate of what page? Thomasgamer4000 11:31, 1 February 2019 (EST)

against deletion

This is incredibly useful because its the best (only?) way to compare spirits across series, types, class, and method of obtaining. If you want something more specific you can go to a series page. However, if you want to compare, say, all weight down spirits, this is currently the simplest (only?) way of doing this. I'm Strongly against deletion. Flibety (talk) 13:53, April 17, 2019 (EDT)

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Nothing is on here Whuhgg (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2019 (EST)

Uhh

Is this page really necessary? We have single pages for every single spirit already, and it's the same as the Melee trophy page. SugarCookie 420 22:25, March 22, 2019 (EDT)

I have to agree, this page is largely unnecessary; I'd argue it's even more unnecessary than the Melee trophy page, solely because of the sheer number of Spirits. Aidan, the Irish Rurouni 18:44, March 29, 2019 (EDT)

If the Melee trophy list was removed because of duplicate information, I don't see why this shouldn't either. The complete sticker list would also have to be deleted, since it's the only reason this page was made to begin with. Nokii — 20:50, March 29, 2019 (EDT)

The problem with deleting the list of Stickers is that it is (currently) the only page that lists them. They arn't separated by series like the Trophies and Spirits. The complete list Spirits does seem largely unnecessary. Wolff (talk) 00:27, March 30, 2019 (EDT)

They actually are. Nokii — 00:42, March 30, 2019 (EDT)

Oh. I had not found the disambiguation page for the stickers before. My bad. The full lists for stickers and Spirits does seem unnecessary then. Wolff (talk) 01:43, March 30, 2019 (EDT)

Offering counterpoint, I do agree that the information is repeated but these lists offer something that the separate can't, which is to compare and contrast a single entry against the whole rest instead of going universe by universe. In case someone is looking for the spirit with the most defense, or all the available 2 slot supports in the game or all the stickers that apply to a certain character. In the end, listing all for the sake of listing is unnecessary, but with the right additional info it's an index valued by some people and a reason to keep coming back to find something useful and helpful to them. GamblerMario (talk) 00:47, March 31, 2019 (EDT)

Upon looking at it a second time, the full list of Spirits can be quite useful for obtaining the basic info for them. Like knowing all the ones that can or can't be obtained by a certain method, or like what GamblerMario mentioned. Trophies were just collectables. Spirits are more than just collectables, and have more ways of collecting and using them than the stickers did (being used in WoL). A full list of trophies or stickers seems redundant, but I find that a full list of Spirits is actually useful. The individual Spirits pages has info of the Spirit Battles, so there are reasons to have both. Wolff (talk) 01:34, March 31, 2019 (EDT)

I oppose deletion, because I actually used this once to see which Spirits were available in WoL, so this page can be useful. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan Leave a message if needed 15:15, April 3, 2019 (EDT)

Still, you can just use our list of spirits instead. SugarCookie 420 15:16, April 3, 2019 (EDT)

Again, not all at once. GamblerMario (talk) 17:42, April 9, 2019 (EDT)

There's no need to. If you know what series it's from, then just look it up there. If not, then you can just look it up on our wiki and it can redirect you there. Finally, if this page is to be kept, then that makes all the other spirit pages completely useless, and those should be deleted instead. It's one or the other, and since this page is gigantic and the other option is more efficient, I believe it's best to delete this page. SugarCookie 420 17:47, April 9, 2019 (EDT)

If we do not have the "Full list of Spirits", then we should make a few other pages. We already have a list for Master Spirits and one for Summons. In the case for Summon, it states whether or not it is also obtainable from other means. We should make pages for those that can only be obtained though Enhancing (or those that can enhance) and the Spirit Board. We do not need one for those only obtainable from WoL as only the Boss Spirits and Master Spirits. Those that can only be obtained though Shopping in WoL are listed in Shopping. Wolff (talk) 00:38, April 11, 2019 (EDT)

We also have a page for all the Spirits with overworld effects in WoL. Wolff (talk) 00:47, April 11, 2019 (EDT)

This page is important, as it provides a complete list of spirits by number. Other pages are nice when you care about spirits by series, but when you're playing the game itself you want a list by number, as that is how your collection is sorted. To that end, I think this page should be kept, but under the title "List of spirits by number".

However, I think it would be better to also have a "List of Primary Spirits" and "List of Support Spirits" (or even just pages Primary Spirit and Support Spirit, with lists on those pages), where their attributes can be listed (Class, Type, Slots, Attack, Defense, and Skill/Trait); those properties are not applicable to all spirits, so shouldn't be listed on this page. The current lists by series are not sufficient for that kind of information, as they don't allow you to sort by these properties across the full list of spirits that exist in the game. --SnorlaxMonster 05:13, April 14, 2019 (EDT)

We now have a page (though currently incomplete) for Enhanceable Spirits. I still say we should at least make a a page or section with a list for Spirits that are exclusive to the Spirit Board. Wolff (talk) 15:17, April 25, 2019 (EDT)