User talk:Black Vulpine/Archive 2

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The IP

Honestly, I wouldn't get involved. AFAIK, even if it was Nutta, this was outside of SmashWiki and its Discord server, and we're not supposed to be dragging off-wiki drama here. Disaster Flare Disaster Flare signature image.png (talk) 19:05, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

That explains why I didn't see anything then, because I've been reading every single message on the server. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 19:57, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

Why I think the IP is Nutty

Judging by your comments in the edit summaries, I think you think the IP is fake. Well, if he was, then I doubt the IP would know about the...interesting topic between nutta and beep. Penro 06:47, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

I do think it's nutta, but I have to treat it like it's not. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 08:40, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

Reminder about rollback

Policy.png Reminder: Rollback is to be used only against vandalism.

Please stop using it to edit war. I understand that these are cases of simple removal of information, but continually rolling back these edits and doing nothing else is going to solve jack. Serpent SKSigHalloween.png King 22:45, 15 October 2017 (EDT)

I'd like to point out that I started doing that because I have seen others, including you, doing it. Nonetheless, I will try to stop it. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 22:49, 15 October 2017 (EDT)
Umm not quite. I roll back obvious abusive removal of information, which is basically the same as vandalism. There's a difference. Aside from that, the main point I am trying to get at here is that by rolling back these edits, the point is clearly not getting across. Talk page contact may be necessary, because what I personally think is going on is that wangera himself is trying to remove his real name, which is fine...as long as he were to explain what he was doing. Which may be a little difficult for him because he's Japanese. Serpent SKSigHalloween.png King 22:53, 15 October 2017 (EDT)
Just saying this quickly (although I probably don't need to, but I'd also like to see if you do in fact have an explanation for this), but your most recent rollback was used on what was not a bad faith edit. Rollback also shouldn't be used simply to bring a page back to an old revision that undo can't be used for, instead you should directly edit said old revision (and not change anything), and it will bring the page back to that revision. Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 16:04, 23 November 2017 (EST)
You call that quick? Anyway, I did mean to undo, but through a slip of the thumb, I hit rollback instead. Given how ridiculous the edit was, and the fact that it was supposed to be removed anyway, I could not be bothered to fix the rollback mistake so I just left it. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 17:03, 23 November 2017 (EST)

Umm, you also seemed to misuse rollback on that recent IP. Those edits clearly were not bad faith in any way, just grammer mistakes. --Penro 19:10, 16 December 2017 (EST)

You don’t know the whole story. The IP is actually a person who keeps reappearing and making all those article-bloating edits. At first they were reverted normally and the person’s talk page would get some stern warnings. However, several IPs ago, it was determined that the person is bad faith, and they keep changing their IP to continue to edit. Therefore, the edits that the IP made have been getting treated as bad faith ever since. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 19:15, 16 December 2017 (EST)
I saw all of those edits, and maybe, maybe two of them were bad faith. Idon't see the problem, personally. --Penro 19:17, 16 December 2017 (EST)
Again, you don’t know the full story, and it’s difficult to explain. The person makes all these edits that bloats the article and spoils the readability. They have in the past been relentless about making these bloating edits, to the point of driving both me and Serpent King beyond our patience. This same person had already been blocked 3 times before it was determined they were bad faith. Simply put, they are not allowed to edit here because they keep evading the block. The only reason the IPs aren’t getting banned permanently is because admin policy prohibits that.
If you want to know more, talk to Serpent King. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the Internets go! :3 19:24, 16 December 2017 (EST)

A Request For A Page

I would like to ask if you could create Marth's default down special's page so I can add the data for it and such. There isn't any information on the global counter page that is useful, and on Marth's SSB4 page there isn't any framedata. The only problem I would have when making the page is I don't have a gif like all the others (here's an example) ZombieZlayer (talk) 23:31, 13 January 2018 (EST)

Are you not able to create the page yourself? You can do so by clicking the associated red link on Marth's SSB4 moveset section, or by typing it into the search box or the box on the Main page. If you opt for either of the latter two methods, make sure you enter exactly this into the field: Marth (SSB4)/Down special/Default
I will also point out that we have another user working with one of the admins to create GIFs for the SSB4 moves. It's a long ongoing process, so right now your options are, you can go ahead and make the page now, or wait until those guys get around to making it themselves. If you wish, you can speak to them yourself - I've linked their talk pages here for your convenience. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 23:45, 13 January 2018 (EST)
Unfortunately I seem to not have permission to do so. I get this when I try on a red link and this when I try off of the main page. Thanks for telling me about these two, I'll contact them and see if I can get an image of Marth's counter ZombieZlayer (talk) 00:51, 14 January 2018 (EST)
Okay, I forgot about this, but new users have to be autoconfirmed before they can do certain things on the wiki. This article I just linked has more info, but basically, you need to have 10 edits and be a member of the wiki for 7 days. Be patient, for you will soon be able to do much more! Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 01:14, 14 January 2018 (EST)

Luigi (SSB) edit conflict.

So I have a couple of things to say here. Firstly, he is the lowest ranked character in the game in SSB, but not in SSBB, meaning that his lowest placement IS is SSB. Secondly what you did goes against SW:1RV. Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 19:25, 20 January 2018 (EST)

I’d like to point out that by undoing my first revert you also broke 1RV. I have also sent you a message on the Discord, but I’ll paste it here: You’re probably going to call me out for double-reverting you, so let me just say this: I did another cross check on Luigi and found that what Mario was saying is actually incorrect - Brawl was the worst placement for Luigi. Furthermore, I don’t believe that calling someone’s tier placement in 64 their best or worst in the series is a fair comparison when there’s only 12 characters in the game and Melee more than doubled this roster. That’s like comparing the fuel capacity of a motorcycle to the capacity of a truck. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 19:29, 20 January 2018 (EST)
Ok so again, no his placement in Brawl is not lower than in SSB. Being dead last is the worst placement he has ever had in a game. Saying "his placement in Brawl is lower" is a dishonest statement. But also you appear to have been targeting the user multiple times, and in this case it is definitely unjustified. I get that in your eyes, the low character roster size of 12 reduces the significance of a bad placement in that game, and for the most part that would be true, but the sheer fact that he is rated absolutely dead last in the game should be more than enough to make it notable nonetheless, as he has never been dead last in any other smash game. Alex Parpotta the flying lobster! 19:34, 20 January 2018 (EST)
First off, let me point out that by accusing me of unfairly targeting another user is an assumption of bad faith, bordering on personal attacks. Putting that aside though, it may seem like I have been unfairly targeting the user but the fact of the matter is, most of his edits simply aren’t notable, or if not that, just plain wrong. However, you have convinced me at the very least that if the placement is dead last or for that matter, the tip top, then it would be worth mentioning. Therefore, I shall undo the Luigi edit but not the Kirby one. Black Vulpine of the Furry Nation. Furries make the internets go! :3 20:02, 20 January 2018 (EST)