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August 16th List

Here's your damn Super Mii Fighter Tier List. I don't care if it's a day late. I don't care if the tiers themselves were determined based on arbitrary boundaries due to the absolutely terrible tier layout. I don't care that most of the roster got bumped down 10 places while Mii Gunner jumped half the list. Let's just never talk about this again.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List VIII
MII TOP HIGH
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
                   
44.168 35.602 35.056 32.179 32.147 32.027 31.593 31.322 31.230 30.329
SEMIHIGH
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
                         
28.763 28.490 28.476 28.303 28.118 28.094 27.974 27.901 27.670 27.303 27.005 26.918 26.207
MID
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36
                         
25.322 25.146 24.747 24.445 24.325 24.177 24.097 24.027 23.796 23.583 23.563 23.558 23.551
SEMILOW
37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45
                 
23.223 23.212 23.131 23.121 22.980 22.972 22.793 22.695 22.462
LOW BOTTOM
46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55
                   
21.933 21.830 21.413 20.650 19.884 19.798 18.870 17.944 17.824 16.979


July 16th List

Just like PM, this new list adopts the "use only the last 6 months of data" trait. This of course means absolutely nothing for Mii Brawler, who only rose to prominence beginning in January. As expected, none of the new characters even came close to toppling the punchy tyrant, though other characters have been affected dramatically. Luncina has doubly shit the bed and is now in the process of dying of dysentery, while Ganondorf, Mewtwo, and Robot experience a similar decline. Ike, Palutena, Yoshi, and Pit have noticeably risen, while Falco has absolutely SKYROCKETED, cutting his rank number (*ahem*) "directly" in half. Still, this is the 5th tier list in which Mii Brawler has been unopposed, so Falco's work just kinda falls by the wayside. Seriously, the Mii Domination has got to end one of these days.

Maybe if everyone uses exclusively Iwata Miis, I would hate them less.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List VII
MII++ HOO MII+ SCALZ HIGH HIGH-
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
                       
46.169 35.424 34.812 33.461 31.849 31.701 31.611 31.401 31.280 31.024 30.682 30.238
SEMIHIGH MID+ MID
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
                         
28.806 28.766 28.760 27.557 27.487 27.192 27.008 26.862 26.718 26.090 26.087 25.889 25.510
SEMILOW
26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40
                             
24.957 24.776 24.770 24.387 24.268 24.234 24.214 23.954 23.917 23.654 23.550 23.494 23.372 23.233 22.951
LOW BOTTOM BAD ARGH
41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55
                             
22.523 22.492 22.481 22.148 21.816 21.710 21.559 20.827 20.616 20.347 20.243 19.957 19.823 17.332 16.636

June 13th List

So it's a little early. Sue me.

Anyway, Mii Brawler continues to give absolutely no fucks towards the current meta, reaching his most retardedly high score yet, putting him a good 10 points above the second highest, also a Mii Fighter. This new domination of the Mii Fighters yet again leaves me to wonder whether or not I should even keep them on this list anymore, as the only times they are recorded in the rankings are whenever they win, giving them such a disproportionately high number of wins as to completely break the way these rankings are calculated.

In other news, Mewtwo continues to fluctuate in the high-ish tiers; Duck Hunt, Wii Fit, Kirby, Game & Watch, and Samus have seen quite a noticeable jump in place; Lucina has officially shit the bed, dropping 15 places; Black Pit and Pit are still really far apart despite being the same damn character; and Lizardon still has not won a single tournament in over 5 months.

Hopefully, the new characters will prove to be the saviors we need to topple the Mii Fuckery.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List VI
MII++ MII+ HOO FAST MAN EDGE
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
                   
50.499 39.594 36.290 33.677 33.282 32.597 32.100 32.060 31.344 31.025
HIGH+ HIGH SEMIHIGH
11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
                         
30.046 29.301 28.834 28.761 28.529 28.060 27.171 26.955 26.721 26.717 26.450 26.327 25.839
MID+ MID-
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36
                         
25.172 25.112 25.061 24.499 24.481 24.346 24.179 24.164 23.922 23.705 23.453 23.392 23.184
LOW BOTTOM+ BOTTOM- MII-
37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52
                               
22.684 22.679 22.651 22.580 22.344 22.067 21.746 21.673 21.424 21.370 20.070 19.609 19.181 18.432 18.240 14.305

May 15th List

So it's a little late. Sue me.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List V
MII+ MYU HOO-HAH FAST EDGE HIGH SEMIHIGH
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
                                     
46.974 40.370 36.785 36.640 35.415 34.026 33.651 32.564 32.371 32.081 32.032 31.557 29.344 29.129 28.654 28.496 28.339 28.194 27.737
MID+ MID-
20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
                               
27.111 26.759 26.639 26.176 25.937 25.912 25.821 25.652 25.188 24.961 24.723 24.698 24.282 24.226 23.290 23.237
LOW OHH HUT MII-
36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52
                                 
22.492 22.188 22.017 21.975 21.858 21.758 21.630 21.337 21.211 20.994 20.634 20.607 20.170 20.165 19.531 18.431 13.390

April 15th List

This, ladies and gentlemen, is the end of an era. Once we reconvene here next month, there will be a 52nd place for our Mii Gunner friend to rot in for all eternity. Meanwhile, as long as people don't play Mii Brawler, he will continue to score a disproportionately high number of tournament wins, thereby anchoring his place in top tier for years to come. In the meantime, we can all congratulate Mii Swordfighter for not sucking for once. Isn't it amazing? I mean sure, he's still fairly pathetic, but I would consider it to be more amazing that he's not at the bottom than it is that the clone characters are still placed so damn high. Also, check out those meteoric rises of Janc-Man and Projectile Mutt. As for the falls of Zelda and Purin... talk about Agony in Pink. And don't even try to mention the whole Pit/Black Pit thing; it still doesn't make sense, so we're just going to have to learn to deal with it and move along.


... Mewtwo cannot come soon enough.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List IV
MII+ HOO-HAH FAST HIGH HIGH- SEMI+ SEMI-
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
                       
45.344 37.153 36.999 35.487 32.836 32.461 32.318 32.224 31.781 30.898 30.040 29.335
MID+ MID-
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32
                                       
28.651 28.629 28.599 28.146 27.940 27.465 26.951 26.738 26.666 26.087 25.519 25.500 25.472 25.360 25.287 25.054 24.802 24.626 24.456 24.423
LOW BOTTOM+ BOTTOM- MII-
33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51
                                     
23.761 23.382 23.151 22.761 22.672 22.538 22.410 22.347 22.222 21.827 21.551 21.263 20.820 20.137 20.008 19.050 18.631 18.268 7.176

March 16th List

You see this? This is why the Mii Fighters should not be on the tier list. For all of you who care about as much as I do about them, you can just ignore the top and bottom-most tiers. The real question we should be asking here is: will Mewtwo be on the next list? I say, "if it bleeds, it leads", which roughly translates into "not a chance, bucko". That being said, it's quite refreshing seeing someone hog the spotlight other than the clone characters for once. I fully expect them to continue to decline until they reach about the same -or lower- rank as their original counterparts. This month's Character of the Month Award goes to Pit, for dropping twenty-four places, proving once again that his ranking on the previous list was just a fluke caused by the fluctuations, and that Black Pit still does not nearly deserve his spot on this month's list.


Also, as I'm sure you can tell, this month features the largest tier list in the history of tier lists, with 24 characters. This is absolutely horrifying and I apologize in advance for exposing this to you.

Let us hope it never happens again.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List III
MII+ HOO-HAH EDGE HIGH+ HIGH HIGH- SEMIHIGH
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
                             
41.277 37.444 37.008 36.740 35.307 35.000 32.887 32.261 31.322 31.150 31.049 30.470 29.693 29.102 28.534
MID
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39
                                               
27.909 27.558 27.379 26.879 26.479 26.349 25.886 25.545 25.378 25.200 24.874 24.822 24.708 24.239 23.879 23.854 23.795 23.374 23.112 23.102 23.100 23.061 22.862 22.796
LOW EHH BOTTOM+ BOTTOM- MII- MII--
40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51
                       
22.012 21.719 21.586 21.358 19.683 18.791 18.543 17.844 17.568 17.433 16.667 8.333

February 14th List

Doc, Meta Knight, and Mario put in some real work to get into the high tiers. At last, all the clones are in the top 5, despite their original characters scoring way lower even though the clones are THE SAME DAMN THING, BUT WORSE. Also of note are Zelda and Toon Link's rises, from the shitty bottom tiers to the slightly less shitty lower tiers. You have to really think at this point, is it even worth it? To the social outcast who wants nothing more than to find a band of like-minded rejects to hang out with just to keep themselves from travelling the route of the psychotic basement-dwelling manchild, yes. It is.

Speaking of psychotic basement-dwelling manchildren, this month's bed shitters are Sheik, Villager, Wii Fit, Samus, and Yoshi, throwing out all of the advantages they have going for them in maths and sciences to pursue a lifelong passion of theatre, in which they act out the bewildering and somewhat frustrating story of their own career suicide. And what the hell is up with Mr. Beep Boop coming in last place again? Is this game racist or something? Ageist? Dimensionist? Who knows. All I know is that when a character places 5th for three consecutive months only to drop to dead last, something is NOT OKAY. Perhaps Morse Code Man is finally undergoing some kind of clinical depression stemming from an existential crisis after being yanked out of the handheld video game medium yet again to do battle against foes in an alien dimension that his feeble 4-bits of RAM can't even comprehend. Or maybe Binary Bob is just sad that the Mii Fighters are still not on the list. Well, based on the data collected, a whopping 0-2 representatives of each Player Avatard made an appearance at APEX. I can't blame them-- the Fighters were gimped almost as hard as Chillin during his Fiscal Feud with Leffen, what with that whole "no customs" bullshit. And that's what happens when you allow the game-defining ruleset for a 3 month old meta to be designed by the same people who thought hosting the event in a derelict shithole with an average rating of 3/10 was a good idea.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List II
HOO-HAH LEFFEN HIGH+ HIGH-
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
                       
37.348 37.032 35.304 34.911 31.870 31.850 31.249 30.950 30.903 30.658 30.495 30.457
MID+ MID- MEH
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23
                     
29.192 29.142 28.821 28.688 28.610 28.276 27.800 27.744 27.570 27.114 25.643
LOW+ LOW LOW-
24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37
                           
24.686 24.615 24.164 23.470 23.344 22.777 22.704 22.590 22.520 22.497 22.370 22.114 21.696 21.317
BOTTOM S U C K
38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48
                     
20.841 20.547 20.276 19.878 19.736 19.460 19.310 18.828 17.170 16.274 12.667

January 16th List

So, here it is. Apparently, my data source hasn't updated at all since the last list I did, so I just went "fuck it" and switched over to the Wii-U version of the game. As you can probably tell, this resulted in extreme changes brought on by the fact that people know better than to use all the lame characters. As a result, the clones continue to deviate drastically from their originals, with Lucina and Black Pit making the top 3. Meanwhile, characters like Falco and Game & Watch just shit the bucket and PLUMMETED FOURTY-THREE POSITIONS to reach their current statuses. Pit also got rescued from the lower-than-bottom tier and resides in a place more deserving for Sakurai's finest. Now you may be wondering, where are the Mii Fighters? Well, you see, the Mii Fighters have reached a new low in relevance, rivaled only by Smash Bros. for 3DS itself. I decided that it would probably be in my best interests to not include characters with only 1-3 instances of data which is heavily skewed because the only people who use these God-forsaken characters just so happen to be the only ones to consistently pull tournament victories out of their collective asses. Who knows? Perhaps if the Mii Fighters aren't completely ignored at APEX, I might consider adding them back in. Might.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U Unofficial Tier List I
TOP GUYS FOR NOW HIGH
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
                         
37.181 36.969 35.939 35.592 33.761 33.681 32.472 31.925 30.751 30.300 30.227 30.118 29.989
MID+ MID-
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25
                       
29.337 29.141 29.135 29.024 28.974 28.960 28.666 27.961 27.781 27.707 27.614 27.247
MEH+ MEH- LOW+ LOW
26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
                   
25.858 25.194 23.782 22.815 22.652 22.580 22.428 22.344 22.241 21.852
LOW- EH BOTTOM BOTTOM-ER
36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48
                         
21.138 20.624 20.366 20.057 19.679 18.740 17.742 17.405 17.075 16.789 15.444 14.969 14.683

December 15th List

Well, with the release of Smash for Wii U this past month, this will most likely be the last list before we switch games. Anyway, several characters are still too low or too high compared with how good they actually are as characters, no thanks to the current lack of a metagame outside of "bitch about characters you can't defeat". Several characters have not changed places in the past month and eight characters have not been played at all, proving that Smash for 3DS was little more than a glorified demo to tide people over until the real game came out. Due to finally winning a fricken' tournament, Olimar has successfully jumped 32 places, from the "Why Is Pit All The Way Down Here While Black Pit Is Way Up There" Tier to the "Seriously They're The Same Bloody Character For Crying Out Loud" Tier. Meanwhile, Palutena and Reflet have moved down 9 and 10 places, respectively, thereby denying them both the pleasure of hanging out with all the cool kids. Look, they're all pointing and laughing at them now. How sad.

Little do they all know that the next list is gonna hit them like a sack of dead swordfighters.

Super Smash Bros. for 3DS Unofficial Tier List III
P O W E R S
1 2 3 4 5 6
           
45.77 43.21 40.50 39.07 38.31 37.62
HIGH+ HIGH HIGH-
7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
                       
35.40 35.19 35.13 34.04 33.84 33.27 33.22 32.78 32.73 32.44 32.39 32.28
MID
19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30
                       
31.72 31.44 31.37 31.16 30.87 30.74 30.45 30.24 30.17 30.03 29.92 29.67
LOW+ LOW LOW- LOWER
31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40
                   
28.31 27.74 27.56 27.53 27.03 26.43 26.18 25.97 25.67 25.29
BOTTOM EH ECHH B A D
41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51
                     
24.09 23.76 23.44 23.33 22.25 21.28 16.15 15.88 14.64 12.96 12.79

November 18th List

Well, here it is. After a second month, some of the problems with the previous list have been fixed, only to be replaced with even greater ones due to the wild character fluctuations that occur with a relatively low amount of data. Of particular note, Wario shot up to the #1 spot thanks to complete dumb luck, rising THIRTY-FIVE places to do so. Other notable rises/crashes include Kirby, rising 34; Palutena, rising 31; Meta Knight, rising 20; Luigi, falling 28; Shulk, falling 29; and Yoshi, falling 20. Most notably, all the good characters are in the garbage tiers due to their statistics being dominated by the sudden influx of new players who have no idea what they're doing. This just goes to show, it's still way too early to be making tier lists.


At least the points gap is lower this time.

Super Smash Bros. for 3DS Unofficial Tier List II
~ T O P 7 ~
1 2 3 4 5 6 7
             
46.46 44.95 44.02 42.95 38.31 37.62 35.97
HIGH
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
                 
35.19 34.96 34.60 34.21 34.08 33.91 33.73 33.39 33.06
MID+ MID
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
                     
32.24 31.37 30.94 30.92 30.88 30.75 30.62 30.48 30.35 29.82 29.78
LOW LOW-
28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38
                     
28.70 28.44 27.92 27.56 27.53 27.29 27.27 27.03 26.87 25.98 25.67
BOTTOM BELOW W O W . . .
39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51
                         
24.85 24.29 24.23 23.73 23.33 21.93 21.56 17.58 16.67 15.25 13.93 12.78 10.65

October 17th List

This is the first-ever NTSC List for Smash for 3DS. With its numerous ties, questionable character placements, and gross imbalance in points, let this prove once and for all that it is too early to make a decent tier list.

Super Smash Bros. for 3DS Unofficial Tier List I
1 2 3 4 5
         
70.32 63.89 50.00 43.06 43.05
6 7 8 9 10-11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
                           
40.00 39.82 39.02 38.85 38.41 37.78 37.68 37.35 36.29 36.11 36.06 35.74 34.97
20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27-28-29-30-31
                       
33.61 31.67 29.16 29.07 28.78 28.40 28.27 27.78
32 33 34 35 36-37 38 39
               
26.26 25.05 25.00 24.88 23.61 23.33 21.96
40 41-42 43-44 45 46 47-48-49-50 51
                       
20.37 18.89 16.67 14.45 11.11 5.56 2.78