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While it's unclear why the famous plumber has a medical alter-ego (or even if he's certified), one thing's for sure: the Doctor knows what he's doing as much as Mario's regular state knows how to rough up Bowser. Which one of the two is the greater one?
Votes for Mario
There's a reason why Mario is able to beat Bowser hundreds of times, while Dr. Mario only works as a doctor.Mario is obviously better. Brawlingbriantalk 12:54, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Think about this for a second: Mario has been in every smash game, yet Nintendo took out Dr. Mario from Melee to Brawl. Think about what that means about how much his own company cares about him. Mr. Anon (talk) 13:39, 27 November 2010 (EST)
I haven't played Melee so can't really say but Mario I think would be better. ☆TheSolarDragon☆ 14:04, 27 November 2010 (EST)
I personally prefer Mario then is clone. Ryder (talk) 16:30, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Dr. Mario is just Mario in a doctors costume so the original is better. 110.174.90.69 21:09, 27 November 2010 (EST)
I never really liked any of the clones in Melee. But the ones that returned in brawl were at least sort of reworked, which was enough for me. And I'm sure the ones left out would have gotten reworked as well. Except for Dr. Mario. I really just can't see him progressing as a fighter at all, even if he were to return. The thing about the other clones is that they have the potential to gain new moves, and generally differentiate themselves from their clone counterparts. Dr. Mario was just a mere costume change of Mario with some minor move edits, which just isn't enough for me. That's really all he will ever be. And on a side note, I was better with Mario is Melee, hehe.Mowrt620 (talk) 21:15, 27 November 2010 (EST)Mowrt620
Mario is way better than Dr. MarioPikachu8090 (talk) 11:20, 28 November 2010 (EST)
Votes for Dr. Mario
I always found Dr. Mario to be better in SSBM. It's a shame that he wasn't in Brawl. GOOOOO DOC!-Ivy73 12:18, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Better with Doctor Mario than Mario Mario. Even if Dr. Mario's a simple re-do of Mario. --HavocReaper'48 13:13, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Dr. Mario is really cool he kills viruses69.88.193.31 15:49, 27 November 2010 (EST)
If I did drugs Dr. Mario would be my dealer. 97.83.79.48 17:55, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Mario's the classic character, but from a Smash Bros. standpoint, I favored Dr. Mario in Melee. He was stronger, used electric attacks instead of fire (which is part of why I like Luigi more than Mario too!), and, to be honest, doctors are just plain cooler than plumbers. Ivy's right about his absence from Brawl. Sure, he was a clone, but at least he was a good clone. Reflex 18:14, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Dr. Mario is simply better. Period. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 19:10, 27 November 2010 (EST)
The original Dr. Mario game beats the crap out of the original Mario game. (Actually that's a lie, but I'm better with Dr. Mario anyway.) Fuddlebob (talk) 21:44, 27 November 2010 (EST)
In the Mushroom kingdom his the best Doctor by far, he got his degree by watching House and Scrubs and ER! But he's still awesome!T.testLP! The Page|The Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorf da bess! 23:20, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Search up "The Dr.Mario song" on youtube, and you'll see what I mean.VincentTran 02:11, 28 November 2010 (EST)
I feel I should vote for Dr Mario instead of normal Mario. I think I prefer Dr Mario over normal Mario. 81.155.90.214 04:10, 28 November 2010 (EST)
Mario is cool, but... Dr. Mario is better. --UilMash (talk) 09:05, 28 November 2010 (EST)
Half-Votes
doctor mario cures all—Preceding unsigned comment added by Pokemon master (talk • contribs) 7:46, November 27, 2010
Comments
Maybe there shouldn't be two competing characters from different metagames. Mario is from Brawl (the picture) and Dr. Mario is from Melee. It could be confusing and hard to decide. (I only have Brawl!) Brawlingbriantalk 12:58, 27 November 2010 (EST)
It doesn't have to be about who you think is better in Smash. You just pick whoever you want. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 18:55, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Mario's picture should be replaced by his Melee picture just like you did with Marth vs. Roy.T.testLP! The Page|The Communicator|The...WhateverGanondorf da bess! 23:20, 27 November 2010 (EST)
6 votes for Mario, 10.5 for Dr. Mario? Seriously? Reflex 07:22, 28 November 2010 (EST)
Two dark-coated not-so-heroes, both the Assist Trophy representing their non-Nintendo series, and both having a bit of a rocky relationship with those series' figureheads. Which is the better of the two? REMINDER: If you haven't already done so, read the updated rules above.
Votes for Shadow
All of you better do things correctly this time around. I'm a fan of the Sonic series. Done.--MegaTron1XD 18:46, 19 November 2010 (EST)
shadow would either beat him up or shoot him(shadow the hedgehog)Scoobford (talk) 20:05, 19 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow can stop time meaning Grey Fox would be helpless. 110.174.90.69 20:42, 19 November 2010 (EST)
CHAOOOOOOS CONTROL!-Ivy73 20:53, 19 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow is the most epic character, and I can only imagine how awesome he would be if he is in the next Super smash Bros. (even if they havent announced one yet.)VincentTran 00:28, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow. Definitely. No contest. Fuddlebob (talk) 01:09, 20 November 2010 (EST)
I've always had a spot in my heart for this guy. Mr. Anon (talk) 01:40, 20 November 2010 (EST)
dont care much for the sonic clone but i care even less for the metal gear series and all its charactersGig (talk) 03:51, 20 November 2010 (EST)
He is just cooler--Jespoke (talk) 08:30, 20 November 2010 (EST)
I would prefer Shadow for SSB4 over Grey Fox. --HavocReaper'48 10:15, 20 November 2010 (EST)
SHADOW IS AWESOME! Plus cheese.Brawliac (talk) 11:09, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow can move as fast as Sonic and control time. Bye, Gray Fox. :) 24.164.143.141 12:59, 20 November 2010 (EST)
You're asking me to choose between two awesome characters from non-Nintendo games. Hmmm... I've always liked the Sonic series, and Shadow's one of my favorites. My vote goes to the hedgehog. Reflex (talk) 18:32, 20 November 2010 (EST)
I didn't even know what series Grey Fox was from until I looked it up a few minutes ago. Shadow, who I know alot more about, wins my vote. 81.155.90.214 02:46, 22 November 2010 (EST)
I'll take Shadow any day. He can alter the passage of time and is purely badass. Valsion 21:56, 22 November 2010 (EST)
In my opinion, Shadow is better. Can't think of anything else to say. -- Dee is too lazy to make a fancy User Signature. 15:28, 23 November 2010 (EST)
How can anyone not like shadow? He's great!Sora Roxas (talk) 18:33, 23 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow is just cool! Who the heck is Grey Fox? He isn't even a fox.207.190.75.131 20:39, 23 November 2010 (EST)
Half-votes? Nice. Doctor Pain 99 (CTE) 21:50, 24 November 2010 (EST)
First of all, Shadow's Chaos Control can do more than control time. Second of all, WHO IS GREY FOX?!?!Brawlingbrian (talk) 14:18, 25 November 2010 (EST)
Half-Votes
Shadow because well he's AWESOME —Preceding unsigned comment added by BigBlue321 (talk • contribs) 12:51, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow is way better than that wierd cyclops with a sword —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.95.193 (talk • contribs) 10:33, 21 November 2010 (EST)
Grey Fox is slow.Shadow maybe win in running race —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sky hero dragon (talk • contribs) 09:24, 23 November 2010 (EST)
Although I like Shadow, I hate his assist. It does nothing! Grey Fox is much better. ☆TheSolarDragon☆ 18:49, 19 November 2010 (EST)
I don't like Shadow in a way Snake dosen't like Sonic. He's too "cool", know what I mean? Also, Grey Fox has big sword.T.testLP (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2010 (EST)
I just like the blade. I'm very sorry, I'm not a fan of either their series, and I like swords. Dr. PikaLinkSmash (talk) 08:46, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow is just a Timer that is summoned by an Assist Trophy. Gray Fox does actual damage. 96.231.135.103 09:13, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Grey Fox actually helps you kill your opponents while all Shadow does is slows them down so you could get more invincibility frames by air dodging and countering. Doc King (talk) 09:53, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Grey fox on MGS is so Mysterious and he is a ninjaPikachu8090 (talk) 11:28, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Grey fox is better and also his sword is so powerful that can even cut the esmeralds Ryder 20:14, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Aah, I know Shadow is more popular than Grey Fox, but let's face it, Shadow will NEVER defeat him in a real battle. --RevolverOcelotFTW (talk) 04:50, 21 November 2010 (EST)
Well, I don't really know both of the series that well, but I am gonna go with Dr.PikaLinkSmash's idea and pick this guy based on his sword. I like swords too. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 21:36, 21 November 2010 (EST)
I agree with the guys above, Grey Fox would kick Shadow's .. well yeah. Besides Shadow does virtually nothing but act as if you used a Timer, what's the point? --Landfish7 21:40, 21 November 2010 (EST)
I do find Shadow to be a more useful assist trophy than Gray Fox. However, like many other older Sonic fans, I do not like Shadow, and I like Gray Fox as a character much more. OmegaTyrant 22:43, 21 November 2010 (EST)
As shown by RevolverOcelotFTW, he rules over shadow, face it, shadow fly*cough* runs really fast, and he attacks with what, his fist V.S. a blade?75.105.139.167 00:26, 26 November 2010 (EST)
Grey Fox is much better then a clone hedgehog 85.240.147.150 09:36, 27 November 2010 (EST)
Half-Votes
grey fox cools me make me liking him 100% —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kirby lover (talk • contribs) 22:26, 19 November 2010 (EST)
Grey Fox will destroy Shadow before he even move! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.246.184.194 (talk • contribs) 05:30, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Shadow or grey fox? shadow stands there and says chaos control, while grey fox does damage. 13:15, 24 November 2010 (EST)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mesuxelf (talk • contribs) 10:15, November 24, 2010
Shadow just says "chaos control", nothing more. And he is just an emo kid :( -—Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.98.131.225 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 25 November 2010 (EST)
Grey Fox looks awesome, is mysterious, and actually assists!!!!--JeKartaN1 (talk) 18:58, 26 November 2010 (EST)
Comments
This is an odd one. I don't really know anything about these two but I'll vote anyway.T.testLP (talk) 21:57, 19 November 2010 (EST)
It's really sad how people vote for someone or something just because of there popularity. It makes the battles less interesting. Doc King (talk) 11:04, 20 November 2010 (EST)
To each his own.-Ivy73 11:15, 20 November 2010 (EST)
Well, I think that people just vote for the person that they think will win based on other people's votes. You know, going along with the crowd. Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 21:30, 21 November 2010 (EST)
At the same time, they vote the one they recognize, not many people know about Grey Fox unfortunately. Also only one person said why Shadow would be better in combat whereas everyone else said they liked Shadow better :P.--Landfish7 21:40, 21 November 2010 (EST)
The Smash Arena is more of a popularity contest, and is not actually related to who would win in an actual fight between the two characters. So only one person saying how Shadow would beat Gray Fox in battle doesn't really matter, and people are free to vote for whichever character for whichever reasons. OmegaTyrant 22:43, 21 November 2010 (EST)
Why is the shading of the voting area that color? It's hard to read the votes. Mr. Anon (talk) 17:37, 23 November 2010 (EST)
Would it be easier if the text were white, as if the background colour were black? (The background colour here, #3f3f3f, is exactly on the border of what I would consider the white text cutoff.) ToomaiGlittershine 17:57, 23 November 2010 (EST)
OK, let's give it a try. Mr. Anon (talk) 21:48, 23 November 2010 (EST)
Yeah, it looks much better now. Mr. Anon (talk) 22:13, 23 November 2010 (EST)
Does Mesuxelf's vote count as an unsigned one? He obviously tried to sign, but used the wrong number of ~'s. Mr. Anon (talk) 15:34, 24 November 2010 (EST)
It should. Over 2 hrs to correct it. Sigs have to have a clear link to userpage/talk page.--MegaTron1XD 17:03, 24 November 2010 (EST)
It's impossible to judge whether it was accidental, and I do not want to set a precedent for giving exceptions. ToomaiGlittershine 17:14, 24 November 2010 (EST)
@Brawlingbrian, what exactly do you mean when you say that Chaos Control does more than control time? Would you care to elaborate? Welikeikeandfoxes (talk) 12:06, 26 November 2010 (EST)
It is able teleport to any place in the universe and can be used in special moves Shadow has, examples being Chaos Sphere and Chaos Blast.--MegaTron1XD 12:09, 26 November 2010 (EST)
Can't it also be used to travel in time? Mr. Anon (talk) 12:25, 26 November 2010 (EST)
The meaning of controlling time. Yes.--MegaTron1XD 12:28, 26 November 2010 (EST)
Chaos control can also do things like warp space and attack. Chaos Control is responsible for many of Shadow's stronger attacks. Brawlingbriantalk 12:57, 26 November 2010 (EST)
