Talk:List of rumors

Cleanup

With this clean start, I'd like to bump the cleanup project that got unanimous approval but no real progress. To recap: Rumors should only be listed once they are disproven, rumors should be written about from an objective, neutral standpoint with emphasis on citations, only the most notable rumors should be added. None of the Bigby Wolf or "Does not perform well in Autumn" nonsense. I'd like to get a discussion rolling on which entries are fit to take out, but I think it's a good time to move ahead with this. ~ Serena Strawberry (talk) 20:37, May 10, 2020 (EDT)

This rumor inverse said about an anonymous 4chan user...

...claims that Spring Man is the ARMS character. His reveal trailer seems to take place after Incineroar’s. Is this worthy of being on the list? SonDaniel (talk page) 22:35, May 23, 2020 (EDT)

No. Sorry. Reminder: this is all speculation and this was a 4Chan thread with no credibility. --Tailikku (talk) 17:20, May 25, 2020 (EDT)

Addendum: It wouldn't matter anyway since the trailer was for Min Min and never took place after Ken/Incineroar.--Tailikku (talk) 19:24, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

Cleanup vol.1: Ultimate

Taking note of Serena Strawberry's cleanup project for this page, some editors including Serena and myself have taken note of which rumours in the Ultimate section are fit for removal. After discussing what contributes to making these rumors fit for removal while considering the principles proposed above by Serena, these are the rumours we have decided should probably be removed:

The Loz18 rumour
The NeoGAF rumour
The amiibo unlock rumour
The 4chan render rumour
The Japanese Fighter Playlist rumour
The Adeleine rumour
The 5channel rumour
The IAmShifty and PapaGenos rumours
The Sakurai Fighter 5 rumours
All three rumours in the Fighters Pass 2 section (MandyCan, LoL, Ubisoft Club)

While I am recording this here more so for documentation purposes, and we are pretty certain these articles are fine for removal, whether they should be kept or not is a matter of open discussion. Acgamer28 00:14, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

Partial Support For Adeleine, is guessing Hero and his alts and Banjo right big enough? I remember Dante being a popular rumor with Fighter 5, the one about Crash can be removed though. --Meester Tweester (talk) 01:27, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

I was initially thinking the same thing for Dante and the Fighter 5 rumours, but Aidanzapunk helped bring us to the consensus that the rumour was nothing more than out-of-control speculation, so despite its popularity we might be ok to not cover it here. Aidan also made note of the fact that the Adeleine rumours were confirmed by the poster to be guesses. Incredibly lucky guesses, but nothing more than that. These two rumours are cool and all, but these are the reasons why they're still on the chopping block. Acgamer28

02:07, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, that makes sense. The Dante rumors were large but I agree they were out-of-control speculation. --Meester Tweester (talk) 17:03, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

Loz18 had a reported correct leak that's on the leaks page so IDK how I feel about removing. Though, if there's a specific reason, I'm willing to hear it out.
The sections on the NeoGAF rumor, the render rumor, the Iamshiftry rumor, the MandyCan rumor, and the LoL rumor have no explanation for their stay outside of "it got a few things correct", so those should go. The Crash one is probably in the same boat, but it at least has the leverage of the Mii outfits so IDK.
amiibo unlock and playlist are iffy but I don't feel strongly one way or the other. They came from mostly official sources and just attracted mere speculation, though I kinda feel that's the whole point.
Adeleine shouldn't even be on here if they admitted they were guesses, and it's not like the other rumors that we cover despite being admitted to guesses and hoaxes (the Palutena leak was considered leverage for the Gematsu leaks, the Lucina leak was notable for using mods, the Chunky Kong hoax started an infamous comparison to Bigfoot).
The 5channel post section is just a mess ("not confirmed at the moment"? seriously?). If it's kept, it needs a pretty good rewrite, although any existing references to it (like on Vergeben's page) seem like they could easily be revised whereever needed.
The Fighter 5 and Rayman rumors were just baseless speculation that didn't even garner much attention. Cut.

And that's my gut judgement, folks. - EndGenuity (talk) 18:48, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

Oppose I don't really see the need to do this.--Tailikku (talk) 18:54, June 24, 2020 (EDT)

@ EndGenuity: Loz having a correct, notable leak doesn't mean that a rumour of theirs is necessarily notable. Plus, aside from the rumour not seeming all to popular back then, Aidan had another bunch of reasons to support deleting it. The amiibo unlock rumours were based off speculation on something that was just.. wrong, and as the article itself states: nothing really came of the Playlist rumour, making it sort of pointless.

@ Tailikku: I recommend you take a look at Serena's original proposal as it explains a lot of the core reasons that the whole cleanup notion came into being. Plus, from my perspective, this article is huge - and with how easy it is for misinformation to spread nowadays, it's not irrational to say that it's only gonna get bigger. Cutting off flak seems to be a good decision to me. Acgamer28

00:18, June 25, 2020 (EDT)

Support per Serena in his/her proposal and Acgamer here. 46.229.158.109 00:23, June 25, 2020 (EDT)