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I responded on my profile to that as per well wiki rules.

Here: http://www.ssbwiki.com/User_talk:KoRoBeNiKi

Alternatively copying here: Though I'd like to note that this could change rapidly at least for the US (but also others probably) due to there being a whole bunch of huge tournaments all in a row this year (year of 64 it is)

From uhh closest to furthest away, in terms of a general short order, wario/Jousuke, Boom, Fukuruou (though he has never come the US, the fact that he has stayed even/almost won vs. wario is shocking and scary,) KeroKeroppi, Isai, wangera. I guess. The Genesis 3 results really shows who was playing well though some matchups were much better for certain people (like LD or someone always struggling vs. certain people.

USA: KeroKeroppi (Pikachu, Falcon,) Tacos (Yoshi, Kirby,) LD (Fox,) Wizzrobe (Yoshi,) Fireblaster (Yoshi, Mario,) and Isai (IDK, lol) somewhere in there. KeroKeroppi is the definite best in the USA, at least if Isai keeps on being rusty though Kero might just plain be better than Isai as well otherwise. Tacos is the most likely 3rd. If LD didn't john/practiced enough, I would put him above Wizzy.

Canada: SuperBoomFan (Falcon/Pika/random) The Z (Pikachu, Fox, Falcon,) Revan (Kirby,) YBOMBB (Jiggles,) (that order, period, shoutouts to The Z for going from ridiculously technical to just plain amazing)

Mexico: Mariguas (Pikachu, Falcon) Dexter (Pikachu)/Jaime-HR (Falcon, Pika, Kirby, Samus) (unsure of order, I'd say probably this one as per the most recent results)

Japan: wario (Pikachu)/Jousuke (Samus, everyone,), Fukurou (Kirby,) Moyashi (Kirby,) wangera (Jigglypuff. The rest outside of this are somewhat unknown and somewhat variant due to their single elim events though I usually see some combination of MEGU (Pika,) Bonobono (Yoshi,) MAHA (Pikachu,) and an occasional Ruoka Dancho (Falcon/)Sekerei (Link.) Overall, Japan is slightly stronger than North America with by far the best Kirby mains in the world (sorry Revan,) though they probably overall have worse Pikachus outside of wario and worse Falcons.

Brazil: Banze (Pika,) Kort (Link, Falcon, everyone,) Rith (Pikachu, Falcon,) CabeLo (Fox) (in some order after the definitive Banze and Kort)

Peru: Alvin (Falcon, as per Dreamland switch there, Fox) Gerson (Pikachu,) (unsure of otherwise, haven't seen an event recently)

--PPS KoRo, King of Smash 64 Knowledge, and bad grammar....and bad puns (talk) 23:19, 22 March 2016 (EDT)

i saw it, i agree with it a lot! Poultry(talk) the Team Liquid 09:39, 23 March 2016 (EDT)

Ranked on SSBMRank

Being ranked on SSBMRank doesn't automatically qualify as being a "notable player" of the character. According to notability guidelines, the player must place highly in tournaments or be nationally recognized as being one of the best players of that character. Half the players on SSBMRank can barely place top 32 at nationals, which isn't high at all for top tiers, and the players I removed certainly aren't known nationally as being the best mains of their character. You should learn how to better assess notability before adding and removing players. Awesome Cardinal 2000 10:32, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

Why did you remove DJ Nintendo then... Poultry(talk) the Team Liquid 10:34, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

And i relooked at my edits and i do agree withSome of your removals Poultry(talk) the Team Liquid 10:37, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

Because he has failed to achieve the consistent strong tournament results as Fox and is better known as a Samus and Bowser player than a Fox player. Also I don't agree with any of those add-ins so we should discuss that. Awesome Cardinal 2000 10:39, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

So you don't agree with some aspects of the 2015 SSBMRank? Okay, opinions. Dots (talk) The Happy 10:42, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

Think about it, How many melee players are there in the world, and you are in the top 100, think about how many other people your above Poultry(talk) the Team Liquid 10:52, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

Well with only talking about DJ Nintendo here, he was reported as a Fox player so can't that let that be? The rankings are subjective of course but not the characters the player mains. Dots (talk) The Pumpkin 10:56, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

We're not judging based on how good they are compared to the best players of their character. Think about it, what has a player like DJ Nintendo done compared to a player like Mango, one of the best Foxes in the world who consistently places in the top 5 at majors? The players at the bottom of SSBMRank are still not able to place highly in multiple tournaments or have national recognition for their use of the character as denoted on our notability guidelines. Sure DJ Nintendo is ranked on SSBMRank but he's not known for being at the top like Mango is. Awesome Cardinal 2000 11:03, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

@Dots: the whole concept of listing notable players is subjective in itself, there's no statistics that determine whether a player is notable or not and we have to use our own judgement here. Awesome Cardinal 2000 11:03, 25 March 2016 (EDT)

so you're saying that you have to place top 5 at a large tournament to be listed? Poultry(talk) the Team Liquid 11:06, 25 March 2016 (EDT)