Template talk:Characters

Playable/Non-playable

Is there going to be a non-playable section added to this? If not, why does it say "playable" and if so, is it possible to have multiple show/hide controls on different parts of a template table? --RJM ^Talk 17:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

R.O.B.

The current link in the template leads to Robotic Operating Buddy. Maybe the link should be changed to R.O.B. (SSBB) so as to link to the fighter in Smash Bros. Manga Maniac (talk) 18:59, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

All chars at ABC

I've set ALL chars at the ABC. This was simple to find them, I thought. Do you agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.92.255.223 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 26 January 2014 (EST)

It's certainly better that whatever non-order they were in before. Toomai Glittershine The Sphere 10:20, 26 January 2014 (EST)

Koopalings and Alph

I think since they're considered separate characters, they should each get their names on here in parenthesis or put a / between them. Ma321 (talk) 20:33, 3 October 2014 (EST)

Perhaps an "Alternate Costume Characters" or a similarly-named Category could help out here. UltraBubbles (talk) 03:21, 15 October 2014 (EDT)

Speaking of Alph, I'm not sure about his current positioning since he didn't debut in Brawl with Olimar. Thoughts? --Menshay (talk) 16:27, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

I think it's fine. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:28, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

It's better than having him float weirdly on his own in parentheses on the SSB4 line. Miles (talk) 16:43, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

I think that UltraBubble's suggestion would be the best option. Maybe "Alternate Costumes in SSB4" would work? Nyargleblargle (Talk) 16:47, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

I would consider supporting an "alts" line if there were more than two. As it stands though, that's not really needed. Miles (talk) 16:50, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

I agree with nutta. This is fine. Serpent King (talk) 16:49, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

Technically speaking there are nine. You could also include female Robin, male WFT, and each individual Villager (since they are all different characters in their home game), which brings us up to 18. Then we also have Polari and the Luma character, which is 20 total.

Is that too much of a stretch though? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:56, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

I think we should stick to the idea of not giving alt. costume characters their own pages unless the announced calls them separately. The male/female alts. don't meet that criteria outside of dubs in gendered languages. Miles (talk) 17:01, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

Does anyone think that the Koopalings and Alph should receive some sort of recognition on the "characters" page? Or at least a mention possibly with Bowser Jr. and Olimar respectively to coincide with the directory? UltraBubbles (talk) 02:19, 23 June 2015 (EDT)

Mii Fighter Variants and Alph

Why were they removed? Are they not playable characters? Also, Alph didn't debut in Brawl Smore (talk) 15:19, 15 February 2016 (EST)

Idk about the Fighter variants, but Alph and the Koopalings were removed because they're merely costumes - just like Male WFT, Witch With No Memories Bayonetta, or Wario-colored Mario. And also the weirdness of having Alph either falsely listed as a Brawl character, or being separate from Olimar. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by cupid♥. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:21, 15 February 2016 (EST)

Alph and the Koopalings have their own whole pages though, and are identified as a distinct category of "playable character as a costume with announcer call, unique model etc.". This is something quite different from "color scheme based on __" or "opposite gender version of character". Also, Miis shouldn't link to the "types" on this template because this template is for the non-game-specific pages, which is all covered on Mii. Miles (talk) 15:40, 15 February 2016 (EST)

I can go with that. If that's the case, then we should change the Mii Fighter shortcut to link to the Mii page instead of the Mii Fighter page. Smore (talk) 15:45, 15 February 2016 (EST)

That's how it was before you changed it. I was just waiting to resolve the issue of Alph and the Koopalings before editing the template again. Miles (talk) 15:49, 15 February 2016 (EST)

If we're just listing character pages, then I see no problem with separating Alph and the Koopalings from Olimar and Junior. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by cupid♥. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:53, 15 February 2016 (EST)

And probably Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur should be separate from the Trainer too. (Particularly since Charizard comes back.) ---Preceding unsigned comment added by cupid♥. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 15:54, 15 February 2016 (EST)

It wasn't like that before I changed it. The Mii Fighter shortcut never linked to the Mii page. It has always linked specifically to the Mii Fighter Smash 4 page. Smore (talk) 16:00, 15 February 2016 (EST)

@Nutty: I could accept that, although given that 2/3 only exist attached to PT as opposed to a 50/50 split like Sheik or ZSS, it's a little tougher to decide.

@Smore: See here; the text of the link says "Mii Fighter" but it linked to Mii. Miles (talk) 16:06, 15 February 2016 (EST)

Shoot, I just copied over the formatting from the SSB4 character template page. My B. I thought I was looking at this template when I was actually looking at the other one. : / Smore (talk) 16:14, 15 February 2016 (EST)

Wait wait wait. So Alternate costumes are ok but PLAYABLE FIGHTERS (Mii fighters) aren't? What? Serpent King 16:34, 15 February 2016 (EST)

This is a template for the characters, not the fighters. Mii Swordfighter/Gunner/Brawler aren't characters, just fighters.

erm I suck at phrasing but it makes sense in my head I promise ---Preceding unsigned comment added by cupid♥. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:36, 15 February 2016 (EST)

Look at it this way: This is a navigation template, intended solely for navigation and not for information. Mii Swordfighter/Gunner/Brawler do not have pages to be navigated to (besides the shared "Mii" page which is listed). Alph and the Koopalings do. ---Preceding unsigned comment added by cupid♥. Or maybe DatNuttyKid. 16:40, 15 February 2016 (EST)

Then I suppose we should add Princess Daisy too? Serpent King 16:42, 15 February 2016 (EST)

No Mii Fighter Variants or Pokemon Trainer Pokemon

It's perfect! Smore (talk) 16:36, 15 February 2016 (EST)

....besides the inclusion of Alph. If we do that, Koopalings should be added back. Smore (talk) 16:39, 15 February 2016 (EST)